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I thought it'd be fun to join California (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114884) and Texas (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114974) and apply the FiM ranking system to Missouri and Kansas teams.
Only 1986 has gone to two events as of week 3, so Missouri looks a bit out of whack:
Rank Team Points
1 1986 149 (78 points max; Hub City)
2 1806 66
3 3284 64
4 1288 63
5 1939 58
6 1658 45
7 1985 45
8 1706 45
9 1775 42
10 1730 42
11 2408 42
12 3528 41
13 2457 37
14 1329 37
15 3885 35
16 4256 34
17 1444 31
18 1987 28
19 1094 27
20 1825 24
21 4330 24
22 2357 24
23 2346 23
24 2978 22
25 2345 22
26 1763 21
27 3862 21
28 3792 20
29 3784 17
30 4329 16
31 1182 15
32 1764 15
33 4455 14
34 2353 14
35 4500 14
36 931 13
37 4402 12
38 4356 12
39 3330 12
40 1737 12
41 4809 12
42 2164 10
43 4231 10
44 4331 10
45 4600 8
46 3397 8
47 4522 8
48 2001 8
49 2560 8
50 2167 6
51 1827 6
52 1723 6
53 1785 6
54 1178 6
55 4154 6
56 2838 6
57 3973 4
58 2874 4
59 4404 2
60 2902 2
61 3764 0 (has not yet competed)
Kansas:
Rank Team Points
1 1108 42
2 935 27
3 1982 23
4 1810 23
5 938 19
6 1710 18
7 2335 12
8 2410 10
9 3485 10
10 1984 8
11 1777 6
12 1769 6
13 1997 6
14 1847 6
15 937 6
16 1994 4
17 1802 2
18 1448 0 (has not yet competed)
19 3798 0 (has not yet competed)
20 3172 0 (has not yet competed)
The FIRST in Michigan rules supplement, which includes the points system, can be found here: http://www.firstinmichigan.org/FRC_2013/2013_Rules_Supplement.pdf
Heyyy, we're tied for 8th best robot in KC right now. :cool: I was going to offer help with this project, but it would appear that you don't need it anymore :rolleyes: I like how it puts a comparison for all teams in your local area, even if you didn't compete with them.
I was going to offer help with this project, but it would appear that you don't need it anymore
Thanks for the (almost) offer; as it turned out it wasn't as hard as I thought. Thanks to Basel A's post in the California rankings thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1249740&postcount=25) I had an easy time getting all of the team and event info. The rest of it wasn't that time-consuming; obviously GKC & STL took the vast majority of the time once I set up the spreadsheet. The rest of the weeks won't be hard to update; we have fewer, remaining, competitions in those 3 combined than were in either STL or GKC last weekend.
I'm sure I made an error or eight, but it's probably pretty close.
Only one Missouri (1985) and one Kansas (3172) team competed in week 4; Queen City & Dallas respectively. So updating the data for this week was simple. Congratulations to 1985 for joining the MO & KS teams going to CMP; we'll see you there.
Missouri:
Rank Team Points
1 1986 149 (78 & 71)
2 1985 103 (45 & 58)
3 1806 66
4 3284 64
5 1288 63
6 1939 58
7 1706 45
8 1658 45
9 1775 42
10 1730 42
11 2408 42
12 3528 41
13 2457 37
14 1329 37
15 3885 35
16 4256 34
17 1444 31
18 1987 28
19 1094 27
20 1825 24
21 4330 24
22 2357 24
23 2346 23
24 2978 22
25 2345 22
26 1763 21
27 3862 21
28 3792 20
29 3784 17
30 4329 16
31 1182 15
32 1764 15
33 4455 14
34 2353 14
35 4500 14
36 931 13
37 4402 12
38 4356 12
39 3330 12
40 1737 12
41 4809 12
42 2164 10
43 4231 10
44 4331 10
45 4600 8
46 3397 8
47 4522 8
48 2001 8
49 2560 8
50 2167 6
51 1827 6
52 1723 6
53 1785 6
54 1178 6
55 4154 6
56 2838 6
57 3973 4
58 2874 4
59 4404 2
60 2902 2
61 3764 0 (has not yet competed)
Kansas:
Rank Team Points
1 1108 42
2 935 27
3 3172 26
4 1982 23
5 1810 23
6 938 19
7 1710 18
8 2335 12
9 2410 10
10 3485 10
11 1984 8
12 1997 6
13 1769 6
14 937 6
15 1777 6
16 1847 6
17 1994 4
18 1802 2
19 3798 0 (has not yet competed)
20 1448 0 (has not yet competed)
After week 5, we added 1987 (RCA at Alamo) to the list of Missouri & Kansas teams eligible for CMP. All teams have now competed in at least 1 event. In order to show a better comparison between teams that have gone to different numbers of events, I've included a maximum & average score. Only 1986 has been to 3 regionals; per FiM rules only the first 2 count so I've not included our data for Oklahoma.
Missouri:
Rank Team Points Max Average
1 1986 149 78 74.5
2 1806 126 66 63.0
3 1985 103 58 51.5
4 3284 64 64 64.0
5 1288 63 63 63.0
6 1775 61 42 30.5
7 1939 58 58 58.0
8 1987 52 28 26.0
9 1658 45 45 45.0
10 1706 45 45 45.0
11 1730 42 42 42.0
12 2408 42 42 42.0
13 3528 41 41 41.0
14 1329 37 37 37.0
15 2457 37 37 37.0
16 3885 35 35 35.0
17 4256 34 34 34.0
18 1444 31 31 31.0
19 1094 27 27 27.0
20 2357 24 24 24.0
21 1825 24 24 24.0
22 4330 24 24 24.0
23 2346 23 23 23.0
24 2345 22 22 22.0
25 2978 22 22 22.0
26 3862 21 21 21.0
27 1763 21 21 21.0
28 3792 20 20 20.0
29 3784 17 17 17.0
30 4329 16 16 16.0
31 1764 15 15 15.0
32 1182 15 15 15.0
33 4455 14 14 14.0
34 4500 14 14 14.0
35 1785 14 8 7.0
36 2353 14 14 14.0
37 931 13 13 13.0
38 1737 12 12 12.0
39 4402 12 12 12.0
40 4356 12 12 12.0
41 3330 12 12 12.0
42 4809 12 12 12.0
43 4331 10 10 10.0
44 2164 10 10 10.0
45 4231 10 10 10.0
46 4522 8 8 8.0
47 2001 8 8 8.0
48 2560 8 8 8.0
49 3397 8 8 8.0
50 4600 8 8 8.0
51 1827 6 6 6.0
52 2167 6 6 6.0
53 1178 6 6 6.0
54 4154 6 6 6.0
55 2838 6 6 6.0
56 1723 6 6 6.0
57 2874 4 4 4.0
58 3973 4 4 4.0
59 3764 4 4 4.0
60 4404 2 2 2.0
61 2902 2 2 2.0
Kansas:
Rank Team Points Max Average
1 935 60 33 30.0
2 1108 42 42 42.0
3 938 27 19 13.5
4 3172 26 26 26.0
5 1982 23 23 23.0
6 1810 23 23 23.0
7 1448 20 20 20.0
8 1710 18 18 18.0
9 2335 12 12 12.0
10 3485 10 10 10.0
11 2410 10 10 10.0
12 1984 8 8 8.0
13 937 6 6 6.0
14 1777 6 6 6.0
15 1847 6 6 6.0
16 1997 6 6 6.0
17 3798 6 6 6.0
18 1769 6 6 6.0
19 1994 4 4 4.0
20 1802 2 2 2.0
Out of curiosity, any chance of seeing an updated ranking list after teams competed for a second time in week 6 at Razorback?
Thanks!
Richard Wallace
10-04-2013, 09:31
..., any chance of seeing an updated ranking list after teams competed for a second time in week 6 at Razorback?And Crossroads.
Did any Missouri/Kansas teams compete at other Week 6 events?
Out of curiosity, any chance of seeing an updated ranking list after teams competed for a second time in week 6 at Razorback?
Thanks!
Yes, I'm planning on updating...I've been travelling for work. Hopefully tonight.
15 MO & KS teams competed at Crossroads and Razorback in week 6; 13 of those were in eliminations. Up Next! (3528) won EI at Razorback and RAVEN Robotics (1288) got a wild-card slot at Crossroads, adding 2 teams to the list of CMP-eligible teams.
MO:
Rank Team Points Max Average
1 1986 149 78 74.5
2 1806 126 66 63.0
3 1939 106 58 53.0
4 1288 104 63 52.0
5 1985 103 58 51.5
6 3284 96 64 48.0
7 3528 75 41 37.5
8 1730 71 42 35.5
9 1706 66 45 33.0
10 1775 61 42 30.5
11 4256 59 34 29.5
12 1987 52 28 26.0
13 1094 45 27 22.5
14 1658 45 45 45.0
15 2408 42 42 42.0
16 931 41 28 20.5
17 2457 37 37 37.0
18 1329 37 37 37.0
19 3784 36 19 18.0
20 3885 35 35 35.0
21 4330 32 24 16.0
22 1444 31 31 31.0
23 1764 27 15 13.5
24 1825 24 24 24.0
25 2164 24 14 12.0
26 2357 24 24 24.0
27 2346 23 23 23.0
28 2978 22 22 22.0
29 2345 22 22 22.0
30 3862 21 21 21.0
31 1763 21 21 21.0
32 3792 20 20 20.0
33 4329 16 16 16.0
34 1723 16 10 8.0
35 1182 15 15 15.0
36 4500 14 14 14.0
37 4455 14 14 14.0
38 1785 14 8 7.0
39 2353 14 14 14.0
40 4356 12 12 12.0
41 1737 12 12 12.0
42 4402 12 12 12.0
43 3330 12 12 12.0
44 4809 12 12 12.0
45 4231 10 10 10.0
46 4331 10 10 10.0
47 4522 8 8 8.0
48 2001 8 8 8.0
49 4600 8 8 8.0
50 2560 8 8 8.0
51 3397 8 8 8.0
52 2838 6 6 6.0
53 1178 6 6 6.0
54 4154 6 6 6.0
55 2167 6 6 6.0
56 1827 6 6 6.0
57 3764 4 4 4.0
58 2874 4 4 4.0
59 3973 4 4 4.0
60 4404 2 2 2.0
61 2902 2 2 2.0
KS:
Rank Team Points Max Average
1 935 60 33 30.0
2 1108 42 42 42.0
3 2410 36 26 18.0
4 938 27 19 13.5
5 3172 26 26 26.0
6 1982 23 23 23.0
7 1810 23 23 23.0
8 1448 20 20 20.0
9 1710 18 18 18.0
10 2335 12 12 12.0
11 3485 10 10 10.0
12 1984 8 8 8.0
13 1847 6 6 6.0
14 3798 6 6 6.0
15 1769 6 6 6.0
16 1997 6 6 6.0
17 937 6 6 6.0
18 1777 6 6 6.0
19 1994 4 4 4.0
20 1802 2 2 2.0
WOHOO 3RD RANKED ROBOT IN KANSAS!
Tommy F.
11-04-2013, 00:06
Up Next! (3528) won EI at Crossroads
3528 won EI at Razorback last weekend, not Crossroads. :P
Thanks for doing these rankings. I realize they're a lot of work and are time consuming, so for that, you are awesome.
3528 won EI at Razorback last weekend, not Crossroads. :P
Thanks. I messed up adding 1288's wildcard. :o Fixed
Thanks for doing these rankings. I realize they're a lot of work and are time consuming, so for that, you are awesome.
It was fun, and really wasn't that hard. Unfortunately, a side effect was pointing out to me just how far we are from being able to go to Districts. There's just too much space between the teams, and not enough of us.
Joe Ross
11-04-2013, 23:39
It was fun, and really wasn't that hard. Unfortunately, a side effect was pointing out to me just how far we are from being able to go to Districts. There's just too much space between the teams, and not enough of us.
80 teams in Kansas and Missouri should be enough. Assuming growth next year, you'd want 5 events. Looking at Where in the World is FIRST (http://team1649.com/witwif/), you'd want 2 in the Kansas City area, 2 in the St Louis area and 1 somewhere in between (Maybe Jefferson City).There's be a lot of duplicates between the Kansas City events and the St Louis events, but some teams will want to travel, and provide mixing of the regions.
80 teams in Kansas and Missouri should be enough. Assuming growth next year, you'd want 5 events. Looking at Where in the World is FIRST (http://team1649.com/witwif/), you'd want 2 in the Kansas City area, 2 in the St Louis area and 1 somewhere in between (Maybe Jefferson City).There's be a lot of duplicates between the Kansas City events and the St Louis events, but some teams will want to travel, and provide mixing of the regions.
Despite BEST's presence in Wichita, seeing FIRST in Wichita would be really fun. We are the closest FRC team to Wichita.
holygrail
12-04-2013, 08:58
80 teams in Kansas and Missouri should be enough. Assuming growth next year, you'd want 5 events. Looking at Where in the World is FIRST (http://team1649.com/witwif/), you'd want 2 in the Kansas City area, 2 in the St Louis area and 1 somewhere in between (Maybe Jefferson City).There's be a lot of duplicates between the Kansas City events and the St Louis events, but some teams will want to travel, and provide mixing of the regions.
Columbia or Lawrence would probably be a better bet than Jefferson City. That way you have MU and KU to offer up space and volunteers. Plus, college towns are fun.
Columbia or Lawrence would probably be a better bet than Jefferson City. That way you have MU and KU to offer up space and volunteers. Plus, college towns are fun.
Or Springfield might be kinder to the teams in the southern part of the state. Also a college town...
Or Springfield might be kinder to the teams in the southern part of the state. Also a college town...
Or even Rolla, which has the Missouri University of Science & Technology. Hopefully between students & an Army base they could come up with enough volunteers. :D
What do we do with the Illinois teams that traditionally come to STL? We'd also miss the periodic visits of the Iowa, Arkansas, and Oklahoma teams that come to GKC. Something else to address.
Richard Wallace
12-04-2013, 12:44
What do we do with the Illinois teams that traditionally come to STL?
We'd also miss the periodic visits of the Iowa, Arkansas, and Oklahoma teams that come to GKC. Something else to address.Add southern Illinois to the KSMO district system! Say all the teams from Springfield IL on down.
Also include Iowa and Arkansas. Not sure about OK, they might want to join a Southwestern district system (i.e., Texas, Louisiana, etc.) instead.
All this speculation highlights your main point -- the teams are spread thin geographically. A strong district system should have at least five events, but more would be better. One event per twenty teams fits the FiM model, which is working well up here and in MAR right now.
All this speculation makes me miss my old team, and my old planning committee, back in St. Louis. Fun times ahead for you folks, I wish I could be there. :(
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