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Jack_poldon
12-05-2013, 13:10
Ultimate Ascent was 1310's best season to date in our 10 years of our existence. Highlighted by two finalists awards at Waterloo and Toronto West Regionals, the Innovation in Control Award at Toronto West and out first trip to the world championships in St. Louis. It was a great year for the team and here are the highlights:
Here's our season recap video-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCqWWm0Qq_g
Here are some other videos from the year-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjV4UJCEBqg
http://watchfirstnow.com/archive3.php?id=63000921
And a link to our facebook and twitter-
https://www.facebook.com/Team1310?fref=ts
https://twitter.com/Team1310
We are looking forward to the offseason and 2014!
Akash Rastogi
12-05-2013, 13:43
.....I noticed you're not listed as an applicant for IRI yet....
You should fix that.
Jack_poldon
12-05-2013, 14:12
.....I noticed you're not listed as an applicant for IRI yet....
You should fix that.
We are in the process of finalizing our application. We will be submitting it soon.
We are in the process of finalizing our application. We will be submitting it soon.
Please don't forget it's due at 11:59 tonight. Don't want you to miss it.
Jack_poldon
12-05-2013, 15:58
Please don't forget it's due at 11:59 tonight. Don't want you to miss it.
We are aware of the deadline. We submitted the application early this afternoon.
We are aware of the deadline. We submitted the application early this afternoon.
Great to hear. You have a fantastic bot, and is 100% IRI worthy.
Jack_poldon
12-05-2013, 16:16
Great to hear. You have a fantastic bot, and is 100% IRI worthy.
Thanks for the feedback. Our team is really hoping that the season isn't over yet. We want to see our robot in action once more. We're crossing our fingers that we get the invitation.
nicholsjj
13-05-2013, 02:36
Just make sure to pack extra hockey pucks. I'm not sure if anyone in Indiana has any. ;) I hope 1310 makes it into IRI this year you guys were great to work with at champs.
Jack_poldon
13-05-2013, 07:01
Just make sure to pack extra hockey pucks. I'm not sure if anyone in Indiana has any. ;) I hope 1310 makes it into IRI this year you guys were great to work with at champs.
Yes, if we are accepted we'll make sure we pack extra hockey pucks and lots of turtle wax.
Jack_poldon
15-05-2013, 14:14
Just found our curie matches on youtube. Here is our full court in case anyone was interested.
Match 72:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyEC142wuOM
If you want to see more matches go to 2056public channel on youtube.
curie qualification match numbers : 13, 21, 35, 51, 72, 89, 109,123
Just found our curie matches on youtube. Here is our full court in case anyone was interested.
Match 72:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyEC142wuOM
If you want to see more matches go to 2056public channel on youtube.
curie qualification match numbers : 13, 21, 35, 51, 72, 89, 109,123
That was incredible. It's a real shame that the curie alliances got so broken up and eliminated your chances.
Kevin Leonard
15-05-2013, 18:30
Wow. I've heard your name thrown around this whole year, but you were always "one of the other good Canadian teams" after 1114 and 2056 were mentioned. But you guys could hit good full court shots, then sweep the ground afterward- and you could do both very effectively!
Hope to see you guys at IRI! Potentially with the same color bumpers!
(Hopefully in person and not on a webcast! ;) )
Jack_poldon
15-05-2013, 21:12
Wow. I've heard your name thrown around this whole year, but you were always "one of the other good Canadian teams" after 1114 and 2056 were mentioned. But you guys could hit good full court shots, then sweep the ground afterward- and you could do both very effectively!
Hope to see you guys at IRI! Potentially with the same color bumpers!
(Hopefully in person and not on a webcast! ;) )
We are hoping we are accepted to IRI. It would be awesome to cap off the year with a trip there. Seeing and competing with teams like yours that we have idolized for years would be incredible.
Hope to see you guys there.
themccannman
15-05-2013, 21:47
You guys had an incredibly versatile robot, really well done, I was very impressed, the only thing that your robot could have done better was a 30 point climb but you really didn't need it with everything else you could do.
Jack_poldon
15-05-2013, 22:10
You guys had an incredibly versatile robot, really well done, I was very impressed, the only thing that your robot could have done better was a 30 point climb but you really didn't need it with everything else you could do.
Thank you very much for the feedback. We actually never really considered the climb because we figure we could do a cycle plus pick up a couple off the floor in that time. We just didn't see any real benefits with the climb. We could either have built a 30pt climb or a floor pick-up, and we obviously choose the floor pick-up. We knew we didn't have the weight for both and we felt the risk of falling was too high.
You guys had a great bot too, it was a pleasure competing with you guys on curie.
Kevin Leonard
15-05-2013, 22:18
We are hoping we are accepted to IRI. It would be awesome to cap off the year with a trip there. Seeing and competing with teams like yours that we have idolized for years would be incredible.
Hope to see you guys there.
Obviously you didn't know our robot in 2011 or 2012. Not much idolization going on there. :rolleyes:
1975Flyers
15-05-2013, 22:40
That was incredible. It's a real shame that the curie alliances got so broken up and eliminated your chances.
Interesting wording. The alliances and elims were exciting.
Kernaghan
16-05-2013, 00:02
So glad to see a thread about you guys! Love the video, every aspect of your robot was effective, and led to the power house team you became at the World Championships. Way to represent Canada, and hopefully we get to watch you guys again at IRI!
Just found our curie matches on youtube. Here is our full court in case anyone was interested.
Match 72:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyEC142wuOM
If you want to see more matches go to 2056public channel on youtube.
curie qualification match numbers : 13, 21, 35, 51, 72, 89, 109,123
7 discs in auton = 42 pts
32 discs in teleop = 96 pts
1st level climb = 10 pts
Did you guys single-handedly score 148 points in this match?
Insane...
Jack_poldon
16-05-2013, 08:51
7 discs in auton = 42 pts
32 discs in teleop = 96 pts
1st level climb = 10 pts
Did you guys single-handedly score 148 points in this match?
Insane...
We actually missed our 10pt hang this match. When we were already hanging, one of our other alliance members jumped on top of our bumper, resulting in us touching the ground. It was still a great match nevertheless. My favourite part was when our human player came screaming over to the driver station saying "We are out of Frisbees!!!". Then I remember our field captain, our driver and myself saying in unison "Already what??!!?!!!?!". It was the highlight of the season after qualifying for Champs(which was definitely our greatest achievement).
It was great to see 610, 1241 and 1477 win it all. Two very deserving Canadian team that I've learned lots about over the years and Texas torque with their crazy 7disc autonomous.
Also pretty cool to see you guys in the front section of the globe and Mail this morning. And see you guys at Robojam!!!
Jack_poldon
16-05-2013, 10:32
So glad to see a thread about you guys! Love the video, every aspect of your robot was effective, and led to the power house team you became at the World Championships. Way to represent Canada, and hopefully we get to watch you guys again at IRI!
Thank you. We never expected to be so successful at champs to be honest. Your team's strategy made you a force to be reckoned with and a real threat to play against. Awesome job on curie!!! You guys represented Canada well as well.
themccannman
16-05-2013, 21:15
That was incredible. It's a real shame that the curie alliances got so broken up and eliminated your chances.
Some of the power teams did get separated but that did no eliminate their chances at all, if 1310 had made it to Einstein I would not have been surprised to see them win it all, they honestly had the best alliance in Curie but somehow got stopped by 2056, I still haven't figured out how. Also Curie was not out of the running for championship trophy just because some of the power teams weren't paired together, Curie had the highest score on Einstein at 233 points.
Some of the power teams did get separated but that did no eliminate their chances at all, if 1310 had made it to Einstein I would not have been surprised to see them win it all, they honestly had the best alliance in Curie but somehow got stopped by 2056, I still haven't figured out how. Also Curie was not out of the running for championship trophy just because some of the power teams weren't paired together, Curie had the highest score on Einstein at 233 points.
Curie selections turned out just how they should have (in regards to the scorching, good picks!), but the fact was it did weaken the division (which was the point).
mman1506
16-05-2013, 21:45
It's so cool to see a local team do so well. Congrats.
Some of the power teams did get separated but that did no eliminate their chances at all, if 1310 had made it to Einstein I would not have been surprised to see them win it all, they honestly had the best alliance in Curie but somehow got stopped by 2056, I still haven't figured out how. Also Curie was not out of the running for championship trophy just because some of the power teams weren't paired together, Curie had the highest score on Einstein at 233 points.
I think I was a bit misunderstood. The results of the #1 alliance speak for themselves. I wasn't trying to diminish the strength of any of the alliances, but I believed that if 1310 had gotten to play on one of the top 3 alliances, they could have progressed much farther in the ladder.
Instead of a top 3 pick, they ended up making a much later pick.
O'Sancheski
16-05-2013, 22:24
Curie selections turned out just how they should have (in regards to the scorching, good picks!), but the fact was it did weaken the division (which was the point).
Agreed. 1310 picked up the best pure cycler in the division in 3824.
themccannman
17-05-2013, 01:33
Curie selections turned out just how they should have (in regards to the scorching, good picks!), but the fact was it did weaken the division (which was the point).
I think I was a bit misunderstood. The results of the #1 alliance speak for themselves. I wasn't trying to diminish the strength of any of the alliances, but I believed that if 1310 had gotten to play on one of the top 3 alliances, they could have progressed much farther in the ladder.
Instead of a top 3 pick, they ended up making a much later pick.
2056 + 1310 would have been a nightmare to play against, they would have had an unbelievable alliance if we had let them make that pick. I agree that some of the Curie alliances would have been stronger, however they were by no means non-competitive compared to the other divisions.
Agreed. 1310 picked up the best pure cycler in the division in 3824.
3824 was not the best pure cycler in the division, they were however very high on the list and the fact that 1310 got both 3824 and 1684 was astounding, those robots should have both gone as first picks much earlier on.
O'Sancheski
18-05-2013, 10:59
2056 + 1310 would have been a nightmare to play against, they would have had an unbelievable alliance if we had let them make that pick. I agree that some of the Curie alliances would have been stronger, however they were by no means non-competitive compared to the other divisions.
3824 was not the best pure cycler in the division, they were however very high on the list and the fact that 1310 got both 3824 and 1684 was astounding, those robots should have both gone as first picks much earlier on.
In your scouting data who was the best cycler?
themccannman
18-05-2013, 18:20
In your scouting data who was the best cycler?
Not including FCS's the robot that picked up the most frisbees per match from the feeder station only was 359. 3824 was the second best at only getting frisbees from the feeder station, however this is partially due to the fact that they never did ground pick up. Both 1717 and 1310 picked up and shot more frisbees per match than 3824 did however they occasionally did ground pick up which reduced their feeder station pick up count. 3824 had a killer robot and was the best pure cycler available for 1310 to pick, however they were not the best pure cycler in Curie. I'm still incredibly surprised that they didn't go as an earlier pick since they were so good.
O'Sancheski
18-05-2013, 19:35
Not including FCS's the robot that picked up the most frisbees per match from the feeder station only was 359. 3824 was the second best at only getting frisbees from the feeder station, however this is partially due to the fact that they never did ground pick up. Both 1717 and 1310 picked up and shot more frisbees per match than 3824 did however they occasionally did ground pick up which reduced their feeder station pick up count. 3824 had a killer robot and was the best pure cycler available for 1310 to pick, however they were not the best pure cycler in Curie. I'm still incredibly surprised that they didn't go as an earlier pick since they were so good.
I agree with you that 359 was the best at getting frisbee from the feeder station. But 3824 had the highest shooting percentage and usually had 6 cycles per match. 359 was only getting 4-5. 3824 also had a 5 disc auto.
themccannman
18-05-2013, 22:42
I agree with you that 359 was the best at getting frisbee from the feeder station. But 3824 had the highest shooting percentage and usually had 6 cycles per match. 359 was only getting 4-5. 3824 also had a 5 disc auto.
3824 definitely had the advantage in auto, it looks like 3824 did average more tele-op disc point per match than 359 did, 359 just averaged 1 more disc picked up from the feeder station per match than 3824. 359 was better at getting frisbees, but 3824 was better at scoring.
3824 definitely had the advantage in auto, it looks like 3824 did average more tele-op disc point per match than 359 did, 359 just averaged 1 more disc picked up from the feeder station per match than 3824. 359 was better at getting frisbees, but 3824 was better at scoring.
Who cares how many frisbees you picked up from the feeder slot? I care about how many you got in the goal.
themccannman
19-05-2013, 00:36
Who cares how many frisbees you picked up from the feeder slot? I care about how many you got in the goal.
If you completely excluded all robots that did anything other than run feeder station cycles (e.g. any robot that ever FCSed, or did ground pick up) then 3824 was the best at getting the most points doing laps from the feeder station to the pyramid. It's hard to compare robots like 1717 and 1310 that did lots of different things.
If you completely excluded all robots that did anything other than run feeder station cycles (e.g. any robot that ever FCSed, or did ground pick up) then 3824 was the best at getting the most points doing laps from the feeder station to the pyramid. It's hard to compare robots like 1717 and 1310 that did lots of different things.
I'm referring to comparing 3824 to 359. Both great bots, but why would it matter who can get more disks from the feeder slot? You don't get points for that. You get points for the disks in the goals.
Ankit S.
19-05-2013, 00:47
I'm referring to comparing 3824 to 359. Both great bots, but why would it matter who can get more disks from the feeder slot? You don't get points for that. You get points for the disks in the goals.
I would think they look at both disks scored and disks taken from feeder station.
Sometimes the disks miss the robot while loading.
It would be extremely important to know that although a robot scored 16/16 disks, 10 disks were lost due to feeding error.
By looking at disks scored and disks loaded (and disks missed too), you can not only find the robots teleop points per match and shooting percentage, but also see if a robot is taking an unnecessarily large amount disks that could instead be used by a different alliance partner.
themccannman
19-05-2013, 02:22
I'm referring to comparing 3824 to 359. Both great bots, but why would it matter who can get more disks from the feeder slot? You don't get points for that. You get points for the disks in the goals.
359 and 3824 where very close in both number of cycles per match and number of shots made, in some cases you may want to know if 359 could make one more cycle per match more than 3824 even if they weren't making all of their shots. There's a lot of things you can infer from statistics that statistics won't necessarily tell you. Both of these robots were so close in performance that you can't say that one was absolutely a better cycler than the other, all you can say is that 3824 tends to score slightly more points. In addition, 359 went for the climb much more often than 3824 did, which is also may have caused them to have a lower average disc score. And comparing either of these robots to ones like 1717 and 1310 is much harder to do because we don't know how either of them would perform if they weren't allowed to FCS or do ground pick up, they could be better, or they could be worse than 3824. There were a lot of robots at the top of Curie that were all very good and had very similar performance, it's really hard to say which is the "best" at anything.
If you guys are interested, 2056 has uploaded all our matches on Curie. You can find them here:
Qualification Match 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqeoMx0GeI
Qualification Match 21: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqoYS9SxmIo
Qualification Match 35: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCH02oRUVog
Qualification Match 51: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoDV-6SXWI
Qualification Match 72: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyEC142wuOM
Qualification Match 89: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjV4UJCEBqg
Qualification Match 109: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrDMf2zcEqc
Qualification Match 123: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6TBJN2Km_s
Quarterfinals 2-1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUU6NaWZnr4
Quarterfinals 2-2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eH4ghN-4FU
Quarterfinals 2-3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7rh4xx_ujU
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