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Chris Fultz
14-07-2013, 18:04
Attached is the TENTATIVE 2013 IRI Match Schedule.

We don't expect this schedule to change, but it could based on:

1. A team does not show
2. We somehow missed a team that does show
3. The host teams determine their schedule is too tough*
4. Or we find an error

The final schedule will be distributed Friday morning.


* :D

Gregor
14-07-2013, 18:21
Data crunching lackeys, commence!

Akash Rastogi
14-07-2013, 18:22
Awesome

Jay O'Donnell
14-07-2013, 18:25
If anyone's going to break the world record for points, I think it'll be match 48's red alliance. 987, 67, and 1114 all together.

Jash_J
14-07-2013, 18:27
Love it. Even if it's just tentative. Thank you IRI committee!

Koko Ed
14-07-2013, 18:29
Match 10 (with 3467 and 3476) and match 17 (with 2468 and 2648) will be fun to que.

jwallace15
14-07-2013, 18:31
Match 10 (with 3467 and 3476) and match 17 (with 2468 and 2648) will be fun to que.

I saw that and thought there was a mistake. I had to look at it a longggggg time before I noticed the 67 and 76.

Koko Ed
14-07-2013, 18:36
I saw that and thought there was a mistake. I had to look at it a longggggg time before I noticed the 67 and 76.

I saw 3467 win Battlecry earlier in the offseason. They were very very impressive!

donkehote
14-07-2013, 18:47
match 7 should be a shooting gallery, 3539, 469 and 1310 on one alliance

LEAVE NO DISK BEHIND!

Gregor
14-07-2013, 18:48
3539, 469, and 1310 in match 7.

3928, 1114, and 3476 in match 21.

3467, 3928, and 2056 in match 39.

2337, 1538, and 33 VS. 987, 2590, 359 in match 43.

987, 67, and 1114 in match 48.

3539, 48, and 148 in match 62.

1538, 1477, and 624 in match 64.

1114 VS. 2056 in match 66.

987, 3476, and 303 in match 80.

1538, 67, and 3928 in match 82.

111, 1310, and 148 in match 96.

1538, 1334, 2826 in match 102.

This will be fun.

Lil' Lavery
14-07-2013, 18:49
This has been out almost two hours and someone hasn't broken it down with predicted outcomes via 18 different OPR methods yet?

Gregor
14-07-2013, 18:52
This has been out almost two hours and someone hasn't broken it down with predicted outcomes via 18 different OPR methods yet?

It has been out for 40 minutes, give it time. :rolleyes:

Koko Ed
14-07-2013, 18:53
How many matches total for each team?

Gregor
14-07-2013, 18:54
How many matches total for each team?

9 matches.

Brant Bowen
14-07-2013, 18:57
How many matches total for each team?

Should be 9 matches per team. Three teams will have 10 matches. Its been a few days since I've looked at it.

Gregor
14-07-2013, 19:01
Should be 9 matches per team. I think two teams will have 10 matches. I can't remember....its been a few days since I've looked at it.

51 and 2175 are surrogates in match 24.

1592 is a surrogate in match 25.

Brant Bowen
14-07-2013, 19:02
51 and 2175 are surrogates in match 24.

1592 is a surrogate in match 25.

Was just taking another look at it to double check and you're right.

dodar
14-07-2013, 19:08
How do you pick which match is the surrogate?

Jon Jack
14-07-2013, 19:09
It's randomly assigned by the FMS

dodar
14-07-2013, 19:10
It's randomly assigned by the FMS

No, I mean how do you know its match 25 vs any other match that 1592 has?

Jon Jack
14-07-2013, 19:11
The column next to the team number has an F (False) or T (True). A "T" means the match is a surrogate for that team.

Littleboy
14-07-2013, 19:12
In the columns next to the team numbers, there are F's and T's. The 3 T's are the surrogate matches. The rest all have "F"s.

dodar
14-07-2013, 19:14
The column next to the team number has an F (False) or T (True). A "T" means the match is a surrogate for that team.

Oh ok, so that's what those are. Thanks.

Kristian Calhoun
14-07-2013, 19:14
How do you pick which match is the surrogate?

It's randomly assigned by the FMS

If a team has a surrogate match, it's always their third qualification match.

If a Team plays a MATCH as a SURROGATE, it is indicated on the MATCH schedule, and it is always their third Qualification MATCH.

KelliV
14-07-2013, 19:14
How do you pick which match is the surrogate?

As detailed in section 5.3.2 in the manual surrogate match teams are randomly assigned but their third match will always be the surrogate one.

You can read it here (http://frc-manual.usfirst.org/viewItem/182#5.3.2).

dodar
14-07-2013, 19:15
How did that rule ever come up as a rule?

EricH
14-07-2013, 19:24
How did that rule ever come up as a rule?

It used to be that the last match for any given team was the surrogate match, if they were in one. After some rumors of teams who were already in the top 8 basically not caring about that match--when their partners DID very much care--it was changed to the third match in an attempt to make it matter. So far, no complaints about teams not caring about that match.

GaryVoshol
14-07-2013, 19:27
It used to be that the last match for any given team was the surrogate match, if they were in one. After some rumors of teams who were already in the top 8 basically not caring about that match--when their partners DID very much care--it was changed to the third match in an attempt to make it matter. So far, no complaints about teams not caring about that match.

It wasn't a rumor, it did happen. One team elected not to play in as a surrogate; one of their alliance partners would have been in the top 8 had they won the match. That's all I'll say on it.

Orion.DeYoe
14-07-2013, 21:29
Oh boy. My team is in Qual #1. I like that match. 1114 vs 1538 with us in between :D .

Peyton Yeung
14-07-2013, 21:46
I'm away from my computer for 8 hours and something like this comes out. Just my luck.

evanperryg
14-07-2013, 21:51
I have a spreadsheet containing a large number of stats and the like. I don't feel like doing all the predictions myself, so here is a link to the spreadsheet so you can see the match predictions/strategy info yourself. All OPR data is either from my team's champs data or from simbotics. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1282700&postcount=5

Kevin Leonard
14-07-2013, 22:07
I have a spreadsheet containing a large number of stats and the like. I don't feel like doing all the predictions myself, so here is a link to the spreadsheet so you can see the match predictions/strategy info yourself. All OPR data is either from my team's champs data or from simbotics. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1282700&postcount=5

Your data from the 1114 spreadsheet is from before championships. Could you update the info with post-champs data (probably from Ed Law's spreadsheet).

Aidan H.
14-07-2013, 22:41
Has anyone found a match in the schedule that contains three 3rd level climbers (30 pt.) on the same alliance?

I would suspect that if any event will have three robots at the top of one pyramid, it will be this one.

BrendanB
14-07-2013, 23:02
Has anyone found a match in the schedule that contains three 3rd level climbers (30 pt.) on the same alliance?

I would suspect that if any event will have three robots at the top of one pyramid, it will be this one.

Sadly no. The closest is a few matches with two 30 point climbers. We have one with 1334 and another with 1640. We also have one against 1114.

Practice match?

sanddrag
14-07-2013, 23:35
I'm on my way to IRI and currently about 2 hours west of Albuquerque. After seeing this match schedule just now, I'm thinking I might as well just turn around and head back to LA.:D Can't though, I have the 3476 robot with me!

Peyton Yeung
14-07-2013, 23:36
Is it Friday yet? :)

Dragonking
14-07-2013, 23:48
Projected ranking based off team 27 post championship opr data. Does not include defense.


Team Qual Auto Climb Tele
1 2056 18 624 223 1151
2 118 16 605 201 1060
3 987 16 551 270 1175
4 1538 14 693 271 1071
5 33 14 628 218 917
6 1310 14 572 273 1080
7 3539 14 545 253 1071
8 469 14 525 229 1121
9 20 14 515 283 1004
10 1114 14 464 351 1198
11 862 14 428 243 1054
12 3928 12 579 228 918
13 624 12 569 261 1075
14 1241 12 556 220 907
15 2590 12 548 262 943
16 868 12 528 291 1068
17 303 12 512 252 885
18 245 12 505 250 1021
19 4265 12 483 261 1016
20 447 12 478 269 949
21 359 12 454 270 1085
22 67 12 441 335 1079
23 195 12 412 230 1054
24 3476 10 631 257 1000
25 1477 10 581 216 1029
26 2474 10 545 207 979
27 125 10 484 263 888
28 51 10 461 223 831
29 829 10 453 243 862
30 3467 10 452 356 904
31 1676 10 442 248 1035
32 48 10 432 198 1027
33 71 10 407 364 747
34 1024 10 398 194 757
35 4334 10 384 236 1013
36 1732 8 534 220 900
37 2468 8 501 211 975
38 2826 8 492 178 950
39 27 8 488 171 950
40 2252 8 484 246 925
41 16 8 464 170 978
42 1334 8 447 339 954
43 1592 8 444 208 864
44 68 8 443 288 1067
45 3847 8 442 234 906
46 1625 8 436 211 882
47 3947 8 436 283 876
48 148 8 432 284 1043
49 111 6 534 271 770
50 116 6 509 226 863
51 4039 6 502 235 810
52 2338 6 477 153 749
53 2175 6 450 278 842
54 3641 6 400 303 830
55 2451 6 395 253 865
56 217 6 388 183 837
57 1902 6 380 257 905
58 1503 6 361 238 858
59 2648 4 483 222 926
60 234 4 475 264 933
61 967 4 431 227 849
62 461 4 418 232 695
63 11 4 415 266 889
64 1741 4 401 253 873
65 2337 2 503 188 790
66 1640 2 435 248 834
67 696 2 382 260 722
68 4814 0 447 254 534
69 45 0 376 126 771

Dragonking
14-07-2013, 23:56
No defense included.

No matches with score under 100 points.

Matches that could break world record

Match 48
987 1114 67 vs 16 4334 245
score: 295 to 178

Match 103
868 2056 987 vs 1741 2252 3476
score: 284 to 194

Match # Red 1 Red 2 Red 3 Blue 1 Blue 2 Blue 3 Projected Alliance Score
1 1538 2252 217 1114 461 447 205.23 198.85
2 125 51 967 2337 1902 11 171.47 148.65
3 1741 45 195 1625 2590 1676 139.10 193.52
4 71 1334 696 987 3928 1592 153.51 204.88
5 303 4039 4814 3847 868 111 130.07 192.03
6 2826 20 2056 359 67 3641 229.79 211.72
7 829 2338 1732 3539 469 1310 167.44 245.75
8 245 2474 1503 862 1640 2648 178.07 175.70
9 1477 16 33 234 148 3947 202.58 189.58
10 4334 68 3467 2175 116 3476 203.58 184.11
11 2468 2451 1241 27 624 1024 168.35 169.37
12 118 4265 1625 48 359 868 207.93 199.69
13 2826 461 2590 51 1732 245 153.39 175.17
14 16 862 1902 696 1477 2338 164.54 162.69
15 3847 1640 2252 33 1592 4334 155.59 177.74
16 217 1241 71 4039 2056 2337 146.89 204.82
17 2648 469 48 68 2468 4814 193.79 162.78
18 447 20 1310 987 4265 2451 233.95 216.09
19 2175 1538 11 148 2474 45 211.87 160.94
20 1334 195 3539 118 234 116 209.13 204.63
21 3928 1114 3476 1676 624 1503 241.41 203.44
22 829 125 3641 1024 111 3947 169.93 147.57
23 1741 67 27 303 3467 967 190.08 185.57
24 2175 447 71 51 33 4814 171.31 140.25
25 1592 461 1310 2337 45 16 151.77 118.56
26 469 624 2474 1902 118 987 236.46 244.01
27 116 2338 3928 148 3641 1114 154.63 234.51
28 4265 967 4334 195 2056 2468 191.56 241.68
29 303 1625 11 2252 829 862 154.33 184.48
30 27 111 1477 1640 1334 359 203.38 196.63
31 3467 48 1503 4039 20 1024 168.51 171.18
32 1732 3847 1538 2648 234 3476 208.13 202.53
33 67 68 696 2590 125 1241 188.33 196.98
34 3947 1741 2451 217 2826 3539 136.07 162.00
35 868 245 2468 1676 148 1902 218.22 194.08
36 4814 45 1503 829 1334 624 89.17 207.73
37 20 1625 71 4334 27 2648 176.36 173.26
38 195 2474 1114 68 1732 1477 234.31 208.74
39 3467 3928 2056 234 125 447 226.15 195.69
40 217 3641 868 16 469 51 171.16 191.42
41 245 3947 4039 4265 303 2338 172.32 173.81
42 11 116 1592 1024 67 1676 149.32 184.53
43 359 2590 987 2337 1538 33 261.63 223.58
44 48 862 1310 1741 3847 2175 196.52 146.38
45 3476 3539 2451 461 111 696 192.40 129.69
46 1241 118 1640 2252 967 2826 198.66 170.53
47 3947 1902 1625 1503 1592 1732 137.03 155.00
48 987 1114 67 16 4334 245 294.69 178.10
49 27 1676 33 217 4265 829 199.81 167.60
50 11 461 20 68 3928 868 163.98 202.81
51 447 862 2826 967 3476 45 187.31 163.35
52 2468 2337 2338 1334 3467 2474 172.04 203.85
53 2252 234 1310 4814 696 3641 206.74 104.28
54 1024 71 148 469 3847 195 159.43 204.96
55 4039 1477 1741 2648 125 118 186.71 212.03
56 303 359 624 2590 2175 3539 211.67 201.36
57 116 2056 51 48 1640 2451 195.81 134.73
58 1241 1538 16 111 20 4814 209.74 170.00
59 68 1503 1902 4265 234 3641 165.32 185.05
60 2468 118 1024 461 217 2338 197.03 118.06
61 33 4039 3476 195 1310 11 215.63 208.60
62 3539 48 148 27 125 2252 195.28 179.83
63 447 3947 469 2175 1640 2337 208.69 149.96
64 1538 1477 624 71 116 967 263.22 159.18
65 868 2590 829 2826 1592 2474 211.86 154.43
66 1114 45 2648 696 2056 303 180.57 185.45
67 1732 3928 1741 4334 1241 359 165.94 192.58
68 111 51 1676 987 3467 862 187.96 248.04
69 1334 3847 2451 1625 67 245 152.29 194.97
70 2175 125 16 1503 2468 71 166.65 174.35
71 1310 27 68 3947 1538 2056 209.00 248.79
72 2648 2826 2337 3928 1024 195 153.06 153.99
73 3467 4814 11 4265 3539 1114 148.21 245.23
74 33 447 116 1741 1902 111 192.23 164.74
75 148 3847 118 696 829 51 215.71 137.74
76 1676 4334 1334 461 3641 4039 200.27 136.01
77 1732 67 1640 862 868 624 195.88 229.30
78 234 2451 1592 967 2474 359 145.21 198.32
79 45 245 469 2252 1477 20 178.16 219.79
80 987 3476 303 217 1625 48 242.16 131.95
81 1241 2338 2056 2590 1503 3847 205.06 172.97
82 2468 3539 1640 1538 67 3928 195.76 241.45
83 4039 2175 1902 2826 1114 2451 156.00 192.10
84 2252 111 45 4265 71 1732 150.69 181.40
85 2337 3641 27 245 3476 118 154.46 241.24
86 696 868 2648 3947 33 3467 168.93 193.71
87 829 987 461 1241 1477 116 187.79 182.09
88 1024 51 4334 1310 303 2474 139.20 196.92
89 2590 624 48 11 16 447 206.47 177.70
90 862 359 217 125 195 4814 186.44 150.50
91 148 1592 1334 68 1741 20 192.04 201.80
92 967 234 1625 469 2338 1676 168.52 212.99
93 51 67 2175 829 4039 3928 184.09 169.16
94 3467 461 1640 2590 1902 71 149.09 172.87
95 696 1503 217 11 4334 1477 126.48 195.07
96 111 1310 148 2648 1592 624 231.97 182.74
97 1732 16 1676 2451 118 303 182.66 183.53
98 967 1024 4814 68 245 33 109.39 209.76
99 116 3947 359 2468 3847 45 172.72 138.40
100 2474 3641 1625 447 1241 3539 158.03 195.76
101 234 2337 862 1114 20 48 178.55 230.72
102 125 4265 469 1538 1334 2826 225.64 221.82
103 868 2056 987 1741 2252 3476 283.64 193.67
104 195 2175 1592 27 2338 51 164.34 154.90

efoote868
14-07-2013, 23:59
No defense included.

Matches that could break world record

Match 48
987 1114 67 vs 16 4334 245
score: 295 to 178

Match 103
868 2056 987 vs 1741 2252 3476
score: 284 to 194

Great expectations from 987 then... Also will be fun for me to watch Match 103. I wonder if there will be any discs left to score.

Gregor
15-07-2013, 00:21
I'm on my way to IRI and currently about 2 hours west of Albuquerque. After seeing this match schedule just now, I'm thinking I might as well just turn around and head back to LA.:D Can't though, I have the 3476 robot with me!

Enjoy your 4(?) day drive. :rolleyes:

Siri
15-07-2013, 00:22
Yikes. (In the best possible terrifyingly-awesome way.)

Anyone feel like running a strength of schedule?

Gregor
15-07-2013, 00:25
Yikes. (In the best possible terrifyingly-awesome way.)

Anyone feel like running a strength of schedule?

Isn't that this? (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1282764#post1282764)

dodar
15-07-2013, 00:29
Isn't that this? (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1282764#post1282764)

No, thats a final proposed ranking by schedule W/L.

Siri
15-07-2013, 00:29
Isn't that this? (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1282764#post1282764)Strength of schedule compares predicted rank in a given schedule (as posted, what you linked) to the average difficulty of a schedule.* There are several ways to do it, though I'm a fan of the Joe Ross method (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1266767#post1266767).

*Apologies, this is a terrible description based on trying to generalize a few different methods non-technically.

Caleb Sykes
15-07-2013, 00:37
No matches with score under 100 points...
36 4814 45 1503 829 1334 624 89.17 207.73


Almost :)

Gregor
15-07-2013, 00:40
Strength of schedule compares predicted rank in a given schedule (as posted, what you linked) to the average difficulty of a schedule.* There are several ways to do it, though I'm a fan of the Joe Ross method (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1266767#post1266767).

*Apologies, this is a terrible description based on trying to generalize a few different methods non-technically.

That actually makes sense, thanks.

Caleb Sykes
15-07-2013, 01:03
Things that I hope to see at this competition:
all 28 AUTO discs scored
6 colored discs in the pyramid goal
double 30-point hang
3rd level goal so full that teams start shooting at the 2nd level
Human players not throwing colored discs because they are all out
1986 and 254 surprise showing (I can dream, can't I)

Boe
15-07-2013, 01:16
Things that I hope to see at this competition:
all 28 AUTO discs scored
6 colored discs in the pyramid goal
double 30-point hang
3rd level goal so full that teams start shooting at the 2nd level
Human players not throwing colored discs because they are all out
1986 and 254 surprise showing (I can dream, can't I)

id add a 300+ score without penalties

Caleb Sykes
15-07-2013, 01:26
id add a 300+ score without penalties
I was going to put those exact words but I forgot

Jay O'Donnell
15-07-2013, 07:54
Things that I hope to see at this competition:
all 28 AUTO discs scored
6 colored discs in the pyramid goal
double 30-point hang
3rd level goal so full that teams start shooting at the 2nd level
Human players not throwing colored discs because they are all out
1986 and 254 surprise showing (I can dream, can't I)

I'm pretty sure all of those already happened at other competitions except for 28 discs scored in auto.

Gregor
15-07-2013, 08:03
I'm pretty sure all of those already happened at other competitions except for 28 discs scored in auto.

I've never seen teams shooting in the 2 point goal because the 3 point was full.

Jay O'Donnell
15-07-2013, 08:10
I've never seen teams shooting in the 2 point goal because the 3 point was full.

I believe it happened at either MSC or at one of the offseason events I've attended, but I know that I've seen a FCS change goals because they were bouncing out of the 3 point goal due to its fullness.

AGPapa
15-07-2013, 09:21
Here is a strength of schedule calculation, from easiest schedule to most difficult. Numbers should be from team 27's database. Let me know if you think something's wrong.

EDIT: I think something was wrong. Values were off by a factor of 9/8. Should (hopefully) be fixed now.

Team AllyOPR OppOPR Delta
3947 65.63 56.65 8.98
3539 66.96 58.41 8.55
3928 70.47 62.1 8.37
48 69.48 61.57 7.91
303 66.2 58.32 7.88
1241 66.48 58.81 7.68
3847 66.08 58.4 7.68
1024 64.29 57 7.3
1310 63.06 57 6.06
868 65.28 60.19 5.09
2826 65.5 60.46 5.04
2451 65.13 60.1 5.03
862 63.08 58.14 4.94
987 67.84 63.75 4.09
245 64 60.28 3.72
461 64.39 60.98 3.41
829 61.39 58.26 3.13
447 63.14 60.38 2.76
1592 63.08 60.35 2.73
2056 62.94 60.62 2.32
1114 62.08 59.94 2.14
51 61.43 59.34 2.09
1902 63.58 61.57 2.01
359 63.55 61.71 1.85
2474 64.84 63.13 1.71
1477 62.6 61.06 1.53
33 60.67 59.16 1.51
1676 62.69 61.18 1.51
624 64.71 63.3 1.41
1334 61.78 60.46 1.32
2648 62.99 62.12 0.87
1625 62.07 61.29 0.79
118 59.63 59.09 0.54
67 62.8 62.45 0.34
116 64.04 63.73 0.32
2252 62.24 61.94 0.3
4265 64.43 64.2 0.23
45 63.2 63.39 -0.19
16 62.74 63.12 -0.38
3476 62.82 63.36 -0.54
4334 61.39 62.14 -0.75
125 61.15 62.05 -0.9
2590 59.2 60.15 -0.95
68 62.3 63.28 -0.97
2175 60.86 61.92 -1.07
195 60.39 61.77 -1.38
27 62.77 64.6 -1.83
469 59.43 61.66 -2.24
3467 59.53 62.52 -2.99
71 58.21 61.4 -3.19
1732 60.55 64.04 -3.49
234 61.57 65.1 -3.53
148 58.92 62.75 -3.83
1538 61.56 66.06 -4.5
2338 59.1 63.85 -4.74
11 58.11 62.89 -4.78
1640 60.83 65.85 -5.02
20 59.07 64.11 -5.04
3641 59.03 64.18 -5.15
2337 60.02 65.57 -5.54
2468 55.63 61.17 -5.54
217 57.82 63.54 -5.73
4039 56.12 62.16 -6.04
696 58.23 64.84 -6.6
1741 59.63 67.04 -7.41
1503 54.39 62.4 -8.01
4814 57.65 67.51 -9.86
111 52.74 63.08 -10.34
967 54.15 66.58 -12.42

MechEng83
15-07-2013, 09:36
I've never seen teams shooting in the 2 point goal because the 3 point was full.

We did this during one of our matches on Newton when we were playing the FCS role.

MSawan
15-07-2013, 09:41
Team AllyOPR OppOPR Delta
4814 64.86 75.95 -11.09


Well, we've got a really tough schedule ahead of us :ahh:

Good luck to all teams at IRI and see you there later this week!

z_beeblebrox
15-07-2013, 10:05
Well, we've got a really tough schedule ahead of us :ahh:

Good luck to all teams at IRI and see you there later this week!

It's not all that bad for you guys. The predicted scores don't include defense...

Akash Rastogi
15-07-2013, 10:21
11's match schedule - ouch.

Hoping for the best.

MechEng83
15-07-2013, 10:52
Team AllyOPR OppOPR Delta
1741 59.63 67.04 -7.41


If I surmise the calculation method correctly, our opponents' average match score is over 200!
Also, there are only 3 teams who have average alliances above 67.04 -- 3928, 48, and 987.


As a side note, I noticed if you turn the negative sign in our delta 90 degrees, you get our team number.

wesbass23
15-07-2013, 11:06
As a side note, I noticed if you turn the negative sign in our delta 90 degrees, you get our team number.


This is probably the most important piece of all the data provided so far :D As we all know very well this is no such thing as a guaranteed win.

evanperryg
15-07-2013, 11:23
Your data from the 1114 spreadsheet is from before championships. Could you update the info with post-champs data (probably from Ed Law's spreadsheet).
Where can I find that data? That would help a lot. I have a suspicion my team's OPR is going to be ~20 points higher post champs. :D


Has anyone found a match in the schedule that contains three 3rd level climbers (30 pt.) on the same alliance? I would suspect that if any event will have three robots at the top of one pyramid, it will be this one.
We have a match against 2. Would be cool to see 3 up there, though.

Kevin Leonard
15-07-2013, 11:31
Where can I find that data? That would help a lot. I have a suspicion my team's OPR is going to be ~20 points higher post champs. :D


http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2174
The one all the way down on the list of downloads is the most recent. There are a few quirks to it that I (in my lack of knowledge about excel) don't know how to change. If you go to each team in the "Query" page, it has their most up-to-date information.

evanperryg
15-07-2013, 11:35
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2174
The one all the way down on the list of downloads is the most recent. There are a few quirks to it that I (in my lack of knowledge about excel) don't know how to change. If you go to each team in the "Query" page, it has their most up-to-date information.

Cool, thanks! This is (end of) my first year in FRC so I don't know my way around CD too well yet.

I will fix it and re-upload it here!

evanperryg
15-07-2013, 12:37
Here is the updated numbers, with a little weighting system in order to compensate slightly for changes in teams' performance over time. I took each team's overall end-of-season OPR and averaged it with their highest regional OPR. This should compensate for improvements the teams have made during the season and between champs and IRI. Also included regular OPR for those of you who may not like this idea. If anyone is interested in how I decided on this system for weighting OPR, feel free to ask.

15073

JB987
15-07-2013, 12:37
This is probably the most important piece of all the data provided so far :D As we all know very well this is no such thing as a guaranteed win.

Especially since many teams will be using drivers other than the ones that helped achieve their OPR's to begin with;)

Karthik
15-07-2013, 12:53
Well, we've got a really tough schedule ahead of us :ahh:

Good luck to all teams at IRI and see you there later this week!

Most people thought you had a really tough match schedule at Champs, and you seemed to handle that pretty well. :)

JB987
15-07-2013, 15:38
Does anyone know for sure what the link to the webcast showing all of these fantastic matches will be?

nicholsjj
15-07-2013, 16:04
Looks like it will take all of 4 matches to blow away my 50 climb point limit prediction. :rolleyes: I personally think that match 48 will result in the highest point total for the season by a single alliance but I might be wrong(usually am). Good luck and congratulations to every team attending IRI.

Jack_poldon
15-07-2013, 22:46
The 5 top matches I'm most looking forward to are:

1. Match 48- 16,4334,245 vs. 987,1114,67
(Dangerous Blue Vs. High Climbing and Scoring Red)

2. Match 7*- 3539,469,1310 vs. 829,2338,1732
(7 Disc Auto Club and Versatile Blue vs. Cycling Red)

3. Match 103- 1741,2252,3476 vs. 868,2056,987
(Underdog Yet Lethal Blue vs. Complete Package Red)

4. Match 26- 1902,118,987 vs. 469,624,2474
(Beautiful and Efficient Blue vs. Competitive Red)

5. Match 16- 4039,2056,2337 vs. 217,1241,71
(Maple Leaf Blue vs. Legendary Red)

*Slightly biased with match 7 :p

Aside from the matches, I am looking forward to atmosphere and experience at IRI. Our team has never been to champs until this year, haven't been to an off-season event in a number of years and never imagined to experience the success we have had this year. We are looking forward to being surrounded by such established and legendary teams for a whole weekend!

Looking forward to a great event!!! Can't wait!

evanperryg
16-07-2013, 10:26
*Slightly biased with match 7 :p
It's a pretty big deal for us, too, since 1732 picked us at Wisconsin this year and that's the first regional we have ever won. I'm also looking forward to match 52 to see 2 really good level 3 climbs on a single pyramid!

efoote868
16-07-2013, 20:12
Made two bets with my dad, a coke that there will be a score of at least 295 in qualifications, and a score of at least 295 in eliminations.

Don't let me down. ;)

runneals
19-07-2013, 01:54
Especially since many teams will be using drivers other than the ones that helped achieve their OPR's to begin with;)

And all the "acts of god" that prevented us from going to champs twice lol... If anyone at IRI sees this, remember that anything can, and WILL happen when you least expect it *cough* finals *cough*!

runneals
19-07-2013, 01:55
Did some predictions for today's (Friday's) matches. The data came from the updates OPR from 2834. I averaged out the Auton, Climb, and Teleop Points. Some of the TOTALS (of both the blue/red alliance) are pretty crazy!

Matches to watch tomorrow are:
Massive Total Points (b/w red & blue alliances):
40 (Total 527)
43 (Total 527)
48 (Total 510)
38 (Total 493 - The highest match that will be the closest)

Teleop:
7 (Blue could have a 160 pt teleop)
48 (Red could have a 160 pt teleop)
49 (Red could have a 163 pt teleop)

Auton:
49 (Red could have a 106 pt auton)
43 (Blue could have a 101 pt auton)

Alliance Totals:
7 (Blue could have a high of 304 pts)
49 (Red could top the Blue high of 304 points with their own 318 point high)

Climbing Totals:
27 (Blue could have a total of 60 climbing points)
48 (Red could have a total of 60 climbing points)
I found this interesting that no one is going to get above 60 according to the stats.

View it here! (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq_AT5Qb0jdTdE0tM1MyLUE1ODBJQlhiM3ZmY1kxZ lE#gid=14)

MechEng83
19-07-2013, 05:51
Auton:
49 (Red could have a 106 pt auton)
43 (Blue could have a 101 pt auton)


Let's apply the reality filter and recognize that the max auton score is 90...

Aren Siekmeier
19-07-2013, 07:54
Let's apply the reality filter and recognize that the max auton score is 90...

Also remember the most an alliance can score in teleop with their own discs is 45*3 + 6*6 = 171 (not counting any unused auto discs), so we're close to saturation there too. More realistically, this is 51*3=153, although with floor pickups "stealing" some, the balance could end up off a little.

The raw OPR calculation starts to break down more than usual at the top end :yikes: