[FF]: 2014 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

[ghostmachine360]

Wait, tonight? Oh boy!

EDIT: Check schedule before saying anything next time....:o

It was just a comparison.......but January 26th @ 1 PM, if you're wondering.

[BrennanB]

I jumbled around the districts again placing the least filled at the bottom hoping to give them enough time to fill up a little more.

December 8 Boilermaker, West Michigan
December 9 Montreal, Waterloo
December 10 Arizona, Wilsonville
December 11 Los Angeles, Rhode Island
December 12 Virginia, Shorewood
December 13 Hawaii, Seneca
December 14 Greater Pittsburgh, Northeastern
December 15 FLR, Long Island
December 16 Washington DC, Livona
December 17 North Bay, Traverse City
December 18 North Star, 10000 Lakes
December 19 Peachtree, Great Lakes Bay Region
December 20 Queen City, Auburn
December 21 Oklahoma, Central Washington
December 22 Smoky Mountains, Hartford
December 23 SVR, Clifton
December 24 Israel, Troy
December 26 South Florida, Bedford
December 27 Colorado, Sacramento
December 28 Bayou, Buckeye
December 29 Chesepeake, Oregon State University
December 30 NYC, Southington
January 1 Lone Star, Mount Vernon
January 2 Western Canadian, Escanaba
January 3 Windsor Essex, Waterford
January 4 Las Vegas

I can't seem to find a regional that fits the name or location of "Washington DC" am I just missing something? Or did the name change?

[Akash Rastogi]

I can't seem to find a regional that fits the name or location of "Washington DC" am I just missing something? Or did the name change?

www.frclinks.com/e/dcwa

[BrennanB]

www.frclinks.com/e/dcwa

Thanks! Was searching Washington, so it didn't come up :ahh:

[bam-bam]

It was just a comparison.......but January 26th @ 1 PM, if you're wondering.

Will keep that in mind. Thanks.

It's more like Game 6 more than Game 7.

[MARS_James]

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So far I need lists from:
Team 3
Falcon
Prestige Taco
Sour Patch Nerds

[Koko Ed]

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[Koko Ed]

I am working an FTC Qualifier tomorrow and will not be able to do the Greater Pittsburgh draft.

[EricH]

I'm going to assume I'll be unavailable--lots going on all day and into evening.

[JosephC]

I am working an FTC Qualifier tomorrow and will not be able to do the Greater Pittsburgh draft.

I should be back in time from my VEX Comp to cover for you.

[EricH]

December 14 Greater Pittsburgh, Northeastern
December 15 FLR, Long Island
December 16 Washington DC, Livona
December 17 North Bay, Traverse City
December 18 North Star, 10000 Lakes
December 19 Peachtree, Great Lakes Bay Region
December 20 Queen City, Auburn
December 21 Oklahoma, Central Washington
December 22 Smoky Mountains, Hartford
December 23 SVR, Clifton
December 24 Israel, Troy
December 26 South Florida, Bedford
December 27 Colorado, Sacramento
December 28 Bayou, Buckeye
December 29 Chesepeake, Oregon State University
December 30 NYC, Southington
January 1 Lone Star, Mount Vernon
January 2 Western Canadian, Escanaba
January 3 Windsor Essex, Waterford
January 4 Las Vegas


As a reminder to all teams, I'll be cycling waivers on Sunday night (or maybe Monday...), and there are still a bunch of good teams left.

[JosephC]

I should be back in time from my VEX Comp to cover for you.

Negatory on this, I won't be back until after 8pm, we had a very long delay where the snowstorm knocked out power.

[Pault]

I will take Northeastern. You can start sending lists to me.

[Steven Donow]

If someone is interested in helping me get set up, I'd be interested in doing Pittsburgh (if no one has it)

[MARS_James]

If someone is interested in helping me get set up, I'd be interested in doing Pittsburgh (if no one has it)

What do you need help with exactly?

[Steven Donow]

What do you need help with exactly?

Nothing specific, haha. Just in case I run into something. Also the question of whether or not to split it into tiers

[MARS_James]

Nothing specific, haha. Just in case I run into something.

Use the updated FF draft assistant (I still hit random about 3 times just to be safe) and then make sure you use everyones list. BTW who is running drafts and does not have sparks list link?

[Steven Donow]

Okay, I'll be doing Pittsburgh then. So far I only have lists from Team Spark and Curiosity

[Steven Donow]

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[Pault]

I will have Northeastern threads up in about 20 minutes.

And Deven, sorry if I stole your own district from you :rolleyes:

[Pault]

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69

I currently need lists from:

Team 3
Team Awesome Blossom
Team Flippin' The Greatest
Team Spark (James, could you please send me the link)
Prestige Taco
Sour Patch Nerds

[Koko Ed]

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3181

[BrennanB]

Guess nobody is running long island? :ahh:

[MARS_James]

Guess nobody is running long island? :ahh:

I can do it now and just have the times valid to tomorrow

Randoms:
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884
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Alright time for who i need lists from:
Schrodinger's Cat
Peach Alliance
Team 3
Automated Scoring
Team Flippin The Greatest
Sour Patch Nerds
Awesome Blossom
Breakfast Company
Prestige Tacos
LtownThrowdown

[Koko Ed]

December 16 Washington DC, Livona
December 17 North Bay, Traverse City
December 18 North Star, 10000 Lakes
December 19 Peachtree, Great Lakes Bay Region
December 20 Queen City, Auburn
December 21 Oklahoma, Central Washington
December 22 Smoky Mountains, Hartford
December 23 SVR, Clifton
December 24 Israel, Troy
December 26 South Florida, Bedford
December 27 Colorado, Sacramento
December 28 Bayou, Buckeye
December 29 Chesepeake, Oregon State University
December 30 NYC, Southington
January 1 Lone Star, Mount Vernon
January 2 Western Canadian, Escanaba
January 3 Windsor Essex, Waterford
January 4 Las Vegas

[MARS_James]

Unfortunately my computer has decided to not like functioning Long Island draft delayed till tomorrow

[Koko Ed]

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[PVCpirate]

Is anyone doing Livonia?

[bam-bam]

Is anyone doing Livonia?

It's getting very close to 7:30, so I am going to assume no.

Since we're getting backed up here on drafts, I can volunteer to do this one tomorrow. I can't do tonight, as I am busy currently.

The draft will start at 7:00 EST as always, although be open to the possibility I may push it back to 7:30.

[bam-bam]

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5263

[MARS_James]

Unfortunately my computer has decided to not like functioning Long Island draft delayed till tomorrow

And we are back so for the long awaited Long Island draft I still need lists from:
Schrodinger's Cat
Automated Scoring
Team Flippin The Greatest
Sour Patch Nerds
Awesome Blossom
Breakfast Company
Prestige Tacos
LtownThrowdown

[iPenguin]

You should have our list. I sent it to you via PM couple days ago.

[bam-bam]

Little PSA: I need your lists for Livonia.

I have:
Falcon
Team 3
PureMichigan
Fighting Calculators
Hindsight
Breakfast Company
Peach Alliance
LtownThrowdown
Sour Patch Nerds
Curiousity

Koko, could you also send me the proper doc for Spark?

[JosephC]

Sorry about not being here for Livonia, my computer charger decided it wasn't going to work so I'm working as quickly as possible to get another one. I should be here tonight for Traverse City.

[bam-bam]

Sorry about not being here for Livonia, my computer charger decided it wasn't going to work so I'm working as quickly as possible to get another one. I should be here tonight for Traverse City.

Livonia is tonight. I changed it to today.

[Koko Ed]

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[Akash Rastogi]

Sorry about not being here for Livonia, my computer charger decided it wasn't going to work so I'm working as quickly as possible to get another one. I should be here tonight for Traverse City.

We still on for Traverse City tonight?

[JosephC]

No luck on the laptop charger, according to my mother, "The roads are too bad to go get you a laptop charger so you can do your silly robotics thing."

[bam-bam]

Koko, could you also send me the proper doc for Spark?

[MARS_James]

I hate to be that guy but looks like we have a new district:

Lansing (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=event_details&eid=13081&-session=myarea:0A7D78871db712CDB0hKij184A42)

[bam-bam]

Will anyone do Traverse City tonight? We have three drafts going on tonight for crying out loud. Might as well knock as much as possible.

[Koko Ed]

I hate to be that guy but looks like we have a new district:

Lansing (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=event_details&eid=13081&-session=myarea:0A7D78871db712CDB0hKij184A42)

It goes all the way to the end.

December 18 North Star, 10000 Lakes
December 19 Peachtree, Great Lakes Bay Region
December 20 Queen City, Auburn
December 21 Oklahoma, Central Washington
December 22 Smoky Mountains, Hartford
December 23 SVR, Clifton
December 24 Israel, Troy
December 26 South Florida, Bedford
December 27 Colorado, Sacramento
December 28 Bayou, Buckeye
December 29 Chesepeake, Oregon State University
December 30 NYC, Southington
January 1 Lone Star, Mount Vernon
January 2 Western Canadian, Escanaba
January 3 Windsor Essex, Waterford
January 4 Las Vegas, Lansing

[Koko Ed]

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[bam-bam]

I can take Traverse City tomorrow if no one steps up tonight (please step up someone)>

[MARS_James]

I can take Traverse City tomorrow if no one steps up tonight (please step up someone)>

If someone does North Star I will do Traverse, otherwise I am going to be doing North Star

[iPenguin]

If someone does North Star I will do Traverse, otherwise I am going to be doing North Star

I'll handle North Star then. We need to get back on track.

[iPenguin]

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[bam-bam]

If someone does North Star I will do Traverse, otherwise I am going to be doing North Star

Thanks. I appreciate it.

[MARS_James]

Traverse Randoms:
5086
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3618
5247
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4391
4983
5314
94

Ok I need lists from:
Awesome Blossom
Team 3
Prestige Taco's
Falcon
Sour Patch Nerds
LtownThrowdown.

[BrennanB]

We will be running live tonight, just gotta figure out who we are gonna pick :P

[Akash Rastogi]

Flippin the Greatest will pick live again.

[EricH]

Falcon running live tonight.

Hopefully I can sneak some work on the waivers in between picks.

[EricH]

Hopefully I can sneak some work on the waivers in between picks.
Waivers are now done, other than cleaning up the tiers. Awards and new waiver teams are in that thread. If anybody wants to help clean up tiers, drop me a line and I'll drop back a few tiers for ya with info on drops/claims.

[bam-bam]

Waivers are now done, other than cleaning up the tiers. Awards and new waiver teams are in that thread. If anybody wants to help clean up tiers, drop me a line and I'll drop back a few tiers for ya with info on drops/claims.

I'm open. I can do quite a bit tonight, in fact.

[EricH]

Falcon has a crazy schedule for the 12/19 drafts. If I'm not on CD, just give me random when it's my turn. (Unless I send a list or something...)

[Koko Ed]

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[bam-bam]

Is someone doing Great Lakes tonight? Something came up and I can't run the draft...

[EricH]

Scoring question: New award listed for 3D printing.

This is a Championship-only award, and applies to robot parts. I guess the question is: Is this a robot-based award (25 points) or a "not previously mentioned" (10 points), or in a class by itself (and thus anywhere between 10 and 25 points)?

My thought is that it should either be robot-based or in a class by itself, particularly since it's a submission-required award. Based on that, I'd probably go 15-20 points if that option is picked (similar to WFA and Dean's List).

[Steven Donow]

Scoring question: New award listed for 3D printing.

This is a Championship-only award, and applies to robot parts. I guess the question is: Is this a robot-based award (25 points) or a "not previously mentioned" (10 points), or in a class by itself (and thus anywhere between 10 and 25 points)?

My thought is that it should either be robot-based or in a class by itself, particularly since it's a submission-required award. Based on that, I'd probably go 15-20 points if that option is picked (similar to WFA and Dean's List).

What was done with the media award last year? That's also a "submission-required, championship only" award?

[EricH]

What was done with the media award last year? That's also a "submission-required, championship only" award?

IIRC, "not previously mentioned", AKA 10 points.

On the other hand, the 3D Printing Award happens to require the submission of a robot part, which would tend to point it more towards the "robot-based award" category, AKA 25 points.

Which... is why I figured I'd bring it up now, so we can hash this discussion out now and not have to have the debate during the Championship.

Like I said, I'd go for putting it in between 10 and 25, probably 15 or 20, because it both is and isn't robot-based (40% of the award is based on outreach and mentoring, both received and given, while 60% is the part itself and design stuff with it).

[MARS_James]

IIRC, "not previously mentioned", AKA 10 points.

On the other hand, the 3D Printing Award happens to require the submission of a robot part, which would tend to point it more towards the "robot-based award" category, AKA 25 points.

Which... is why I figured I'd bring it up now, so we can hash this discussion out now and not have to have the debate during the Championship.

Like I said, I'd go for putting it in between 10 and 25, probably 15 or 20, because it both is and isn't robot-based (40% of the award is based on outreach and mentoring, both received and given, while 60% is the part itself and design stuff with it).

I am more worried about the part in the section where it states that one adult and one student member will be flown out to accept the award, implying that it may be announced prior to when we do our draft

[EricH]

I am more worried about the part in the section where it states that one adult and one student member will be flown out to accept the award, implying that it may be announced prior to when we do our draft

Not an issue, if you read instead of skimming. Full relevant text quoted below.

The 3DPA Team winner will be announced at the FIRST Championship and presented with an award sponsored by America Makes and ORNL.

America Makes and ORNL will provide transportation and hotel cost for one team representative and a chaperone to receive the award at the Championship Event (if the team is not already attending the Championship).

What I see there is this: The announcement will be at CMP. (This is backed up in another section.) It is possible that the team representatives (and thus their team) will know, but be under a strict NDA. It's also possible that the sponsors are funding travel for all teams that apply, but that's a lot less likely.

I'd say that it's going to be announced at CMP, but it's possible that a team not at CMP wins--in that case, all points go the way of an unused Wild Card slot.

[Akash Rastogi]

For whomever runs whichever drafts tonight - Koko Ed has our lists for Auburn and Queen City.

[Koko Ed]

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[bam-bam]

No one is going to do Auburn? Guys, we can't just keep falling behind schedule like this.

I'll do Great Bay tonight, starting at 8:00, after I clean up my waivers.

[Koko Ed]

If the lack of support continues next season I will simply not do Fantasy FIRST anymore and will find something else to do with my nights.

[bam-bam]

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68

[bam-bam]

I do not have the following for Great Lakes:

Team 3
Prestige Taco
Sour Patch Nerds
Falcon
Phantom Zone
Curiosity
Awesome Blossom
Spark
Schrodinger's Cat
Ltown
PureMichigan
Breakfast Company

[Koko Ed]

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[Koko Ed]

December 21 Oklahoma, Central Washington
December 22 Smoky Mountains, Hartford
December 23 SVR, Clifton
December 24 Israel, Troy
December 26 South Florida, Bedford
December 27 Colorado, Sacramento
December 28 Bayou, Buckeye
December 29 Chesepeake, Oregon State University
December 30 NYC, Southington
January 1 Lone Star, Mount Vernon
January 2 Western Canadian, Escanaba
January 3 Windsor Essex, Waterford
January 4 Las Vegas, Lansing

[EricH]

Falcon takes random tomorrow, all drafts. Just going slightly crazy around here.

[EricH]

If the lack of support continues next season I will simply not do Fantasy FIRST anymore and will find something else to do with my nights.

I concur.

Seriously, we need to figure out a better way of tracking what drafts need covering and who is available to do them--and getting lists to draft runners. I'll start a discussion after all regular-season drafts are complete (if Ed doesn't beat me to the punch).

[Alpha Beta]

If the lack of support continues next season I will simply not do Fantasy FIRST anymore and will find something else to do with my nights.

I've lurked in on the Fantasy First community for a couple of years, and for the first time this year am helping a friend run a team. I absolutely appreciate the work you put into this. I've become familar with the accolades of a lot more teams through this process.

It is exciting to see how many events FIRST has grown into. Consequently it has made the drafting process a grueling test of endurance. Much more than I anticipated. I could deffinitely see having separate leagues for each district and another for all the remaining regional events. Perhaps appoint a different comissioner for each if there were that many dedicated people with the time to help.

As a father with a young family the build season is already a strain. My wife would have my head if I tried to monitor a live draft on Chielf Delphi. If we went to a list only draft that I could sort through at the end of my work day, or after the kids go to bed I could help out there. The viability of the live draft seems about dead anyway seeing as drafts are being run at non-regulation times without any warning.

[Anupam Goli]

I concur.

Seriously, we need to figure out a better way of tracking what drafts need covering and who is available to do them--and getting lists to draft runners. I'll start a discussion after all regular-season drafts are complete (if Ed doesn't beat me to the punch).

One suggestion would be to require everyone who participates in Fantasy FIRST to run a draft, and then schedule it with that many participants.

[EricH]

One minor thing. Some folks have thought that doing a Fantasy FIRST website may be the way to go. I'm thinking that they might be right, particularly if some things are automatic. I can't code a website, mind you, but I'm willing to work with anybody developing one--I know a lot of what needs to happen inside the programming, but not a lot of the syntax needed. (Inside or outside the current FF community, I can help--I think.)

[Anupam Goli]

An automated system such as a website is definitely the way to go, as participation increases and the amount of drafts we have to do goes up as well. Perhaps we can task someone with coming up with a prototype by the end of this season?

[bam-bam]

An automated system such as a website is definitely the way to go, as participation increases and the amount of drafts we have to do goes up as well. Perhaps we can task someone with coming up with a prototype by the end of this season?

I'm going to assume that you mean after scoring all the events, because it's not clear what you mean by end of this season.

I have no experience whatsoever in programming a website, so I have to bow out of this one. If there's any kind of non-programming task I can help, then I can definitely do something there.

[Basel A]

With the growing number of drafts and lists to be made (particularly with more district systems), I don't think it's feasible to continue like this, support or not. I honestly think the only way for this to work with a reasonable time commitment is to radically change the format to a traditional fantasy league wherein players have season-long rosters and choose to start particular teams each week. I'd provide tools such as a spreadsheet of which teams play which weeks, etc. Draft would take forever, but would probably save time in the long run. I was planning on officially proposing this next year, but since the topic came up...

[Jay O'Donnell]

With the growing number of drafts and lists to be made (particularly with more district systems), I don't think it's feasible to continue like this, support or not. I honestly think the only way for this to work with a reasonable time commitment is to radically change the format to a traditional fantasy league wherein players have season-long rosters and choose to start particular teams each week. I'd provide tools such as a spreadsheet of which teams play which weeks, etc. Draft would take forever, but would probably save time in the long run. I was planning on officially proposing this next year, but since the topic came up...

I agree with the fact that we can't continue with this format. More likely than not we will 6-7 districts next year and full districts in a short amount of time, and that's simply too many drafts. My idea for change is to draft once for each district and have everyone take as many teams as possible(number of FRC teams in district/number of FF participants) and get points on their season within the district. Regionals can remain the way they are until the regional system is gone completely.

[Koko Ed]

1209
3179
1785
2341
2765
2004
3457
2388
2986
3660
31
2395
932
2389
2382
2373
2950
1296
1710
1723
3152
476
3507
2461
4612
3247
5001
1561
4523
4933
1742
647
1448
1750
3931
2398
3169
2410
4487
3784
2424
3465
2773
1775
3593
4349
4005
3163
3528
2354
2352
3498
2165
2333
2359
2723
3160
3366
3798
4102

[Koko Ed]

With the growing number of drafts and lists to be made (particularly with more district systems), I don't think it's feasible to continue like this, support or not. I honestly think the only way for this to work with a reasonable time commitment is to radically change the format to a traditional fantasy league wherein players have season-long rosters and choose to start particular teams each week. I'd provide tools such as a spreadsheet of which teams play which weeks, etc. Draft would take forever, but would probably save time in the long run. I was planning on officially proposing this next year, but since the topic came up...

This is probably the most likely scenario.

[MARS_James]

Central Washington Random:
3238
4061
2980
3223
2910
3711
4608
1359
4104
1595
3876
4120
3575
2923
4495
3588
3693
5111
4082
2926
4038
4980
3812
2944
3831
4125
2149
753
3789
4173
3286
4513
2605
3712

Lists needed from:
Peach Alliance
Sour Patch Nerds
Awesome Blossom
Phantom Zone
Automated Scoring
Prestige Tacos
Schrodinger's Cats
Team 3
Flippin The Greatest
Ltown Throwdown

[bam-bam]

I'm on a FIRST binge right now, so I'm going through lists and putting down the biggest updates.

NOTE: I said biggest, so I'm fairly sure I missed quite a few teams already. I don't want to go back, so I only have the bigger teams in these events:

Center Line
Alamo
Southfield
Palmetto
Midwest
Nashua/Granite State
Inland Empire
Auburn Mountainview

If someone could check those over again for me, I would appreciate it a lot.

From Central Illinois on in the schedule, I'm just going to point out the teams added in our tier only. I'll put the actual list here later.

[Koko Ed]

This is probably the most likely scenario.

Here's how I propose to work this:
-the drafts would have sign up well into mid to late December.
- No more teams. You do not need a group of people to pick three or four teams.
-No more Tiers. Just one big draft.
-The drafts will happen the days leading up to kickoff. Either three or four days for each round.
Draft orders will still be randomized. There's no other way to do it.
-No more five minute standbys. Two minutes between each pick. You've had weeks leading up to the pick. If you can't make the draft it's on you.
- If you miss the whole draft you are Insta-booted. I'm done wasting time with people who cannot be bothered showing up. No randoms. Nothing. You get skipped and forgotten.
You can switch teams in and out up to week 1. You can trade teams up to week 1. On the Thursday of week 1 all rosters are locked.
Teams are scored on event average. Not total points. SO you have a team that does one event and runs the table then you basically get those points. If you have a team that does three or four events you get the average of those four event. So choose wisely!
Standings are based on points to see who gets to pick where for the Championship Draft.

[Koko Ed]

Here's how I propose to work this:
-the drafts would have sign up well into mid to late December.
- No more teams. You do not need a group of people to pick three or four teams.
-No more Tiers. Just one big draft.
-The drafts will happen the days leading up to kickoff. Either three or four days for each round.
Draft orders will still be randomized. There's no other way to do it.
-No more five minute standbys. Two minutes between each pick. You've had weeks leading up to the pick. If you can't make the draft it's on you.
- If you miss the whole draft you are Insta-booted. I'm done wasting time with people who cannot be bothered showing up. No randoms. Nothing. You get skipped and forgotten.
You can switch teams in and out up to week 1. You can trade teams up to week 1. On the Thursday of week 1 all rosters are locked.
Teams are scored on event average. Not total points. SO you have a team that does one event and runs the table then you basically get those points. If you have a team that does three or four events you get the average of those four event. So choose wisely!
Standings are based on points to see who gets to pick where for the Championship Draft.

I'll do a PM poll with the participants to which they prefer for next year: the individual drafts or start up the classic Fantasy FIRST model.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Here's how I propose to work this:
-the drafts would have sign up well into mid to late December.
- No more teams. You do not need a group of people to pick three or four teams.
-No more Tiers. Just one big draft.
-The drafts will happen the days leading up to kickoff. Either three or four days for each round.
Draft orders will still be randomized. There's no other way to do it.
-No more five minute standbys. Two minutes between each pick. You've had weeks leading up to the pick. If you can't make the draft it's on you.
- If you miss the whole draft you are Insta-booted. I'm done wasting time with people who cannot be bothered showing up. No randoms. Nothing. You get skipped and forgotten.
You can switch teams in and out up to week 1. You can trade teams up to week 1. On the Thursday of week 1 all rosters are locked.
Teams are scored on event average. Not total points. SO you have a team that does one event and runs the table then you basically get those points. If you have a team that does three or four events you get the average of those four event. So choose wisely!
Standings are based on points to see who gets to pick where for the Championship Draft.
So this entails people only having 3 or 4 teams for the whole season?

[bam-bam]

So this entails people only having 3 or 4 teams for the whole season?

I was thinking somewhere along the lines of a basketball roster really- 13-15 teams of your preference.

Could we run the regular drafts for regionals, and then have the traditional fantasy league for the district events? Like FiM FF, MAR FF, NeFIRST FF and PNW FF.

[Koko Ed]

So this entails people only having 3 or 4 teams for the whole season?

yup.

[EricH]

An automated system such as a website is definitely the way to go, as participation increases and the amount of drafts we have to do goes up as well. Perhaps we can task someone with coming up with a prototype by the end of this season?

I was asked to look at something someone else came up with, but could not due to some format issue or other, or something like that. Once I get a chance to look at it, I'll probably start bouncing ideas around.


My thought is this: If the individual draft is used, with some automation (like a website), we'd almost have to go to a list-only, and spread any given draft out over a couple of days or so (but have the site run multiple at a time). The draft runners' job would be to activate and monitor any given draft.



@jay and Ed: I'd suggest that instead of picking 3-4 teams for the season, given that there are upwards of 2500 teams, everyone picks 5-10 (depending on league size), but can only play 3-4 in any given week. (Fewer is acceptable, more is not.) Or, as an alternative, do 7 drafts, 3 teams/player, 1 draft for each week of the season.



Or, how about this one. 1 draft for EACH district area (FiM, MAR, PNW, NE, future district areas), encompassing the entire regular season. That would alone knock out half of our drafts. Obviously it might be "better" to do more than one, but let's go with 1 for now. -50% of all FF drafts gives about 45, give or take a bit, which leads us to about where we were a couple years back, with 1-2 drafts a night, no more, starting after Thanksgiving. Regionals would still draft as normal.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Or, how about this one. 1 draft for EACH district area (FiM, MAR, PNW, NE, future district areas), encompassing the entire regular season. That would alone knock out half of our drafts. Obviously it might be "better" to do more than one, but let's go with 1 for now. -50% of all FF drafts gives about 45, give or take a bit, which leads us to about where we were a couple years back, with 1-2 drafts a night, no more, starting after Thanksgiving. Regionals would still draft as normal.
I think this is the best way to go about it. Still similar to what we have now but far more manageable.

[bam-bam]

I think this is the best way to go about it. Still similar to what we have now but far more manageable.

It's what I suggested earlier, but I can get behind this also.

Although, I don't starting three teams is appropriate, Koko. Given that there's two districts happening every weekend, that would give us 48 teams in eliminations. Starting six teams sounds like a better thing to do. More opportunities to gain points and make everyone happy.

[Basel A]

@jay and Ed: I'd suggest that instead of picking 3-4 teams for the season, given that there are upwards of 2500 teams, everyone picks 5-10 (depending on league size), but can only play 3-4 in any given week. (Fewer is acceptable, more is not.) Or, as an alternative, do 7 drafts, 3 teams/player, 1 draft for each week of the season.

These two things were almost exactly what I was going to suggest.

[bam-bam]

And Eric, I'll try to get the newly added/dropped teams out sometime tonight or tomorrow.

[Koko Ed]

Smoky Mountains Randomized Rankings
4025
2856
2393
3140
4504
4630
4098
3116
4265
281
1249
3984
3196
4396
3861
3844
2973
3843
931
342
3489
5002
2614
3856
5186
4740
3651
5045
3829
4264
4462
4524
4576
4989
547
3675
5022
5005
5034
1466
3259
3972
3824
4020
3492
3516
3966
4912
4924

[MARS_James]

Is there really no one who can take Hartford tonight?

[Koko Ed]

Is there really no one who can take Hartford tonight?
typical.

[Steven Donow]

Is there really no one who can take Hartford tonight?

I can take Hartford tonight. Might not be able to start until 7:30, but I can definitely do it.

[Steven Donow]

1740
4958
3182
2170
238
3104
3566
1991
4628
716
3464
4572
1124
173
839
5129
3146
2104
4097
4557
176
2785
3525
236
181
4055
175
999
3555
228
571
2067
95
4410
1687
177
5142

[Steven Donow]

I need lists for Hartford from:

Falcon
Team Awesome Blossom
Schrodinger's Cat
The Phantom Zone
Prestige Taco
Sour Patch Nerds

[JosephC]

Sorry for my inactivity guys, my laptop decided to catch on fire and the new computer should be here Monday or Tuesday.

In other news, Sour Patch Nerds will be dropping jeremy callahan because he wouldn't cover any of the missed drafts for me, and he missed all the drafts he was supposed to do.

Team name change to: Sour Patch

[Akash Rastogi]

December 21 Oklahoma, Central Washington
December 22 Smoky Mountains, Hartford
December 23 SVR, Clifton
December 24 Israel, Troy
December 26 South Florida, Bedford
December 27 Colorado, Sacramento
December 28 Bayou, Buckeye
December 29 Chesepeake, Oregon State University
December 30 NYC, Southington
January 1 Lone Star, Mount Vernon
January 2 Western Canadian, Escanaba
January 3 Windsor Essex, Waterford
January 4 Las Vegas, Lansing

Bumping this up just so people see it.

[EricH]

I *should* be more available this week and next week for running drafts, with the exception of 12/24. But, I do have work, which keeps me out of the knowing until right before normal start time whether I'm needed or not.

For the rest of the season, can folks who are going to run drafts post the night before, if they know for sure?



I'll go ahead and take Clifton tomorrow, start time 7:30 EST, posting the draft after tonight's finish.

[EricH]

Clifton Randoms:

1143
3142
4573
1279
102
1228
5310
3607
1811
1989
1676
4035
4475
555
1790
1302
223
1672
3314
4653
869
136
752
1626
1257
3340
896
4954
4128
2070
714

Need lists from:
Team 3
Curiosity
Team Awesome Blossom
Peach Alliance
LTown Throwdown
Schrodinger's Cat
The Phantom Zone
Prestige Taco
Sour Patch Nerds

[Koko Ed]

8
2135
1351
1280
751
4255
3256
2489
2035
100
115
604
4765
1072
4186
4543
668
581
1700
4990
114
1388
295
692
1868
3669
1662
670
2367
5311
3045
841
4171
192
256
846
4047
1967
840
2813
2144
254
5027
4904
5023
5171
5026
368
766
852
971
1323
5210
2473
2854
3482
5104

[IKE]

Never mind...

[Koko Ed]

3316
1946
4590
3065
3075
2213
4661
1952
3034
2679
1954
4338
3063
4319
2231
3211
1580
3388
2216
1573
3087
4708
4757
4784
4744
4794
3083
4586
4406
4320
1836
2230
3835
3339
1937
1574
4724
1577
5328
1944
2630
1576
5135
4416
5291
5273
1657
1942
4649
1943
5174
5038
2212
1690

[iPenguin]

3534
322
2673
3539
2604
2224
2337
226
3398
453
3302
5048
2960
5053
818
4810
5214
4815
4854
4779
5197
5226
3538
5201
5193
4507
4961
217
33
3667
4737
245
4130
5223
5065
2591
2832
5046
1941
4811

[Koko Ed]

I will be unavailable to do the Colorado draft on Friday.

[EricH]

I will be unavailable to do the Colorado draft on Friday.

I think I'll be available to cover. Will confirm on Thursday.

[Koko Ed]

3992
3164
1651
4088
3976
1398
3933
744
3653
4118
4517
4533
21
2383
3410
4592
3376
4707
3354
4622
3242
2152
3932
59
386
4224
4562
1604
108
1902
1523
4471
1369
5187
1649
86
4965
5196
5007
5335
5329
179
180
1065
1251
5108
5018

[EricH]

Colorado randoms:
3703
5315
1157
4293
662
4944
5318
3729
1339
4550
1303
1332
1619
1982
4581
1583
4388
4386
1410
3562
1138
2275
4928
1361
1799
1584
1977
159
4068
2259
4499
2240
3807
2083
2945
1987
2972
2036
4153
1245
4072
2996
1011
649
3648
2261
4418
3403
3643
3310
3200
2543
4593

[Koko Ed]

For next year maybe we can have a weekly draft every Wednesday night. Each participant picks a new team that they will go with each week (irregardless of if they are at a regional or a district) and will receive points for that one team. At the end of the season the points will be tallied up for their seven drafts and that will determine the picking order for the traditional Championship draft picking order to see who will be the champion.

[BrennanB]

I can run Sacramento tonight unless someone else was planning on running it.

Maybe we want to run the districts like that too Ed? Though I do like that the current system resembles the actual FRC alliance selection process.

[Steven Donow]

I like that new system, except maybe instead of one team have each player pick three teams(to keep similarities with real life FRC)? I guess that would really depend on how many FF players there are.

[Akash Rastogi]

I can run Sacramento tonight unless someone else was planning on running it.

Maybe we want to run the districts like that too Ed? Though I do like that the current system resembles the actual FRC alliance selection process.

Sending you a list. Please post up if you can't run it.

Btw- did I miss the Bedford draft?

[Basel A]

Btw- did I miss the Bedford draft?

Didn't get run, which is probably a good thing because it has about 25 teams right now

[Akash Rastogi]

Didn't get run, which is probably a good thing because it has about 25 teams right now

Gotcha. Looks like Lansing is also only at 27.

[BrennanB]

Ugh, something last minute came up :/ Can't run it tonight sorry...

[EricH]

So... we're running way behind. Bedford, Sacramento, and now Bayou all need someone to run them. I'm definitely not available tonight to run any draft, but I will be sending lists to Ed for all 3.

However, I am available tomorrow, or should be. If all goes as planned, I'll take one draft then, which one TBD based on what gets done tonight. Ditto for Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday--depending to some extent on what's needed. I'm hoping to avoid doing anything on Tuesday, but can take a short catchup draft then as well.






I'm still thinking that in future, we stick to 1 draft per district area, maybe 1/X district events in area, which will cut out about half our drafts and stop the schedule sliding around when a district doesn't fill quickly. (At 1 draft/district area, we'd have to adjust the scoring model, but I think that could be done fairly painlessly by simply taking the average FF score for all events, factoring in district rank, and rounding up to the nearest point.)

[bam-bam]

I'm so sorry for not taking a draft at this time, but I'm busy with applications at this point. Once I'm done I'll let you all know when I can take one.

[BrennanB]

I can do two tonight to try and get us caught up, so sorry about yesterday and not being able to run one. Sooo Bedford and Sacramento lists to me. Will get them set up in a sec.

[BrennanB]

Bedford Randoms:

1023
68
3175
4384
5144
3773
3536
5090
5068
4409
5050
5263
3542
1528
2620
4395
3509
2676
5066
5260
240
66

Sacramento Randoms:

1868
2035
4669
3013
4973
2367
1671
1351
751
100
3859
4643
1388
3598
4185
2085
585
2073
3615
1662
4159
701
5134
1280
5097
668
5250
3256
3189
4711
2761
3925
2473
840
4698
3257
971
2204
4135
4498
766
3250
599
5274
2156
114
2141
2551
1678
253
1458
115
3554
692

Alrighty I have lists for:

Bedford:

Falcon
Breakfast Company
Hindsight
Phantom Zone
Fighting Calculators
Pure Michigan
Spark
Automated Scoring
Curiosity
Peach Alliance
Team 3
Schrodinger's Cat

Sacramento:

Flippin the Greatest
Falcon
Breakfast Company
Hindsight
Phantom Zone
Fighting Calculators
Pure Michigan
Automated Scoring
Curiosity
Peach Alliance
Team 3
Schrodinger's Cat

[Koko Ed]

533
1590
2603
3201
1248
2544
1787
2399
3067
4265
4121
4119
3484
63
1308
3777
695
3356
3591
2632
846
4601
3504
4780
120
3496
4142
1001
4269
4611
1317
3624
217
306
378
3260
4467
4675
4165
379
2172
451
5249
2010
1731
395
612
639
5081
4930
694
910
1507
2252
5077

[sarah_storer]

Team Spark would like to take randoms for the remaining drafts as half of our team will be in the Bahamas

[Koko Ed]

1111
3650
53
623
686
1446
4456
4464
4505
4514
4541
4638
4945
4949
5106
5115
5269
2421
1195
3941
4067
2819
1601
3748
2483
2528
2534
63
1547
3714
2363
3389
3793
620
3283
1610
1719
4137
229
1629
2199
329
1748
2377
2849
1741
233
888
2537

[EricH]

I'll take Bayou, running tonight at 7 EST. That leaves Oregon State University District before we're fully caught up.

Bayou Randoms
2918
4209
2283
2817
1920
3606
5055
456
4330
1311
3991
4107
4336
3227
1927
5168
4053
5028
3337
3468
5281
2080
4087
3937
3039
2190
4113
3961
2078
5262
4721
3350
364
4978
2992
3783
5169
4297
2221
4832
5040
1818
4353
3612
3959
2973
1421
4805
5325
590
4316
3616
2183
34
1912
2242
3946
3319

[BrennanB]

I can probably run one tonight, will confirm in a bit.

EDIT Looks good.

Oregon State Randoms:

2521
2192
957
955
5198
1571
5295
847
2811
4127
4457
1359
2990
1432
4043
5085
2915
1540
4110
3712
1425
4662
3192
997
3673
1510
3024
956

I have lists from:

Hindsight
Pure Michigan
Phantom Zone
Fighting Calculators
Spark
Automated Scoring
Falcon
Breakfast Company
Peach Alliance

[iPenguin]

155
999
4572
1965
3104
173
175
178
1071
1768
151
3718
2785
3461
1699
3146
3525
558
2064
230
2067
3464
3634
1735
1099
4628
2836
213
195
3466
3654
5129
4055

[BrennanB]

We will be running live tonight.

[Koko Ed]

1884
354
810
3017
1796
597
1230
1600
333
4773
271
1660
4797
3059
1156
4856
4012
1880
4789
334
335
353
2601
3760
3137
2205
2895
4528
4571
4299
369
371
375
395
1396
640
3204
4108
3419
1635
3053
1382
522
4383
421
743
4684
2869
806
5202
2344
4640
5298
2579
694
1155
3940
2265
3158
4039
4122
4263
5123
5151
5289

[EricH]

Updating, and all that:
Looks like we're on track for finishing the regular season the night before Kickoff.

December 30 NYC, Southington
January 1 Lone Star, Mount Vernon
January 2 Western Canadian, Escanaba
January 3 Windsor Essex, Waterford
January 4 Las Vegas, Lansing

Upcoming:
MI Championship: TBD
MAR Championship: TBD
NE Championship: TBD
PNW Championship: TBD

Now those 4 TBDs will be sometime between the end of Week 6's events and the start of Week 7's events; if the past is any indication, on a Tuesday or Wednesday night. I don't think they'll all go on one night, but we might have to do it that way--either way, we'll definitely need draft runners for all 4, because there is absolutely no room for schedule slippage with those events.

[Koko Ed]

Updating, and all that:
Looks like we're on track for finishing the regular season the night before Kickoff.

December 30 NYC, Southington
January 1 Lone Star, Mount Vernon
January 2 Western Canadian, Escanaba
January 3 Windsor Essex, Waterford
January 4 Las Vegas, Lansing

Upcoming:
MI Championship: TBD
MAR Championship: TBD
NE Championship: TBD
PNW Championship: TBD

Now those 4 TBDs will be sometime between the end of Week 6's events and the start of Week 7's events; if the past is any indication, on a Tuesday or Wednesday night. I don't think they'll all go on one night, but we might have to do it that way--either way, we'll definitely need draft runners for all 4, because there is absolutely no room for schedule slippage with those events.
Actually I screwed up. The last drafts happen on Kickoff night.

[iPenguin]

Actually I screwed up. The last drafts happen on Kickoff night.

Suggestion: Move one of each of the last two drafts to the 2nd and 3rd, having 3 drafts each those two nights - assuming we have available runners of course.

[EricH]

Actually I screwed up. The last drafts happen on Kickoff night.

I'm up for running early with one or both, if we've got enough runners. Gives a 3-a day or two... not that we haven't had those before.

[bam-bam]

Couldn't we just run the remainder of the drafts over the course of week up to kickoff? It'll make it easier to get lists in and picks before kickoff starts. The drafts will still finish as accordingly to the schedule, but just starts earlier.

[Koko Ed]

57
3735
441
3016
3999
2881
1429
418
3005
1255
118
148
1801
2585
3103
1817
231
4155
2882
2848
2587
457
653
3028
5070
1836
4639
4328
2234
3545
4689
4849
624
4295
2583
1745
5261
5287
5307
5308
5309
5342
3834
2582
3481
3335
4735
1622
1477
2789
3728
3847
4280
4610
4589
2897
2936
5093
4346
4570
4587

[BrennanB]

I'm up for running early with one or both, if we've got enough runners. Gives a 3-a day or two... not that we haven't had those before.

Which means we need to run 3 tonight yes? I will get set up for one I guess.

[BrennanB]

Mount Vernon Randoms:

2928
2660
4918
4205
4089
4173
2922
4683
1510
4060
2903
1778
1294
3070
2980
2046
4654
2930
1258
4512
948
3663
4309
2605
3238

I have lists from:

Automated Scoring
Team Spark (Taking randoms)
Schrodinger's Cat
The Breakfast Company
Peach Alliance
The Phantom Zone
PureMichigan
Team Hindsight
Curiosity
Fighting Calculators

[Koko Ed]

Sour Patch Nerd.has missed the last five drafts (actually more than that but I forgot to place this up last time). If they miss tomorrow's draft they will be booted from the league.

[Koko Ed]

216
244
288
3216
4633
2130
1695
4625
4604
4627
4010
4497
1334
1482
2013
2994
3145
4591
5280
5296
4334
5185
5228
5292
3513
4634
4733
5015
5184
5118
4719
5078
5117
5116
4751
5064
5140

[BrennanB]

Escanaba Randoms:

4376
2586
4827
5213
5230
4970
66
5247
862
3537
5110
857
4715
3602
3641
4391
4988
4375
4995
4983
2246
5072
2959
3617
4835
1711
5175
2618
1596
4392
2153
5183
5314

I have lists from

The Breakfast Company
Team Hindsight
The Fighting Calculators
The Phantom Zone
PureMichigan
Automated Scoring
Team 3

Also I assume we need to run Windsor tonight as well? If nobody takes that one by 6:40 I can run that one too with it starting at 7:15.

[Littleboy]

Why not run one of the January 4 drafts and save the January 3 drafts for January 3?

[BrennanB]

Why not run one of the January 4 drafts and save the January 3 drafts for January 3?

I just figured people would more likely have the ones done for the 3rd rather than the 4th... Whatever is good.

[Alpha Beta]

I just figured people would more likely have the ones done for the 3rd rather than the 4th... Whatever is good.

Just finished the Windsor list just in-case. If we need to finish a different list for tonight, let us know.

[BrennanB]

Windsor Randoms

1114
4903
2809
4920
1559
4814
1285
1241
4678
555
3530
4940
1325
4923
2056
1503
5024
772
4595
4917
4936
296
4015
4308
3560
1846
2252
451
1305
5221
5039
4922
4716
781
141
4932
4938
5288
4921


I have lists from:

Team 3
PureMichigan
Team Hindsight
The Breakfast Company
The Phantom Zone
The Fighting Calculators
Automated Scoring
Ltown

[Koko Ed]

All teams are safe til the end of the season!

[bam-bam]

All teams are safe til the end of the season!

?

You mean no teams will get dropped?

[Anupam Goli]

?

You mean no teams will get dropped?

There's less than 5 drafts left.

[Koko Ed]

?

You mean no teams will get dropped?

Joseph pm'd me on Facebook to get randoms.

[Koko Ed]

1661
3501
2034
3019
3009
1197
3408
3187
2486
3011
4
3309
988
2429
687
4160
3473
2493
3288
3255
2478
3598
60
4792
2403
585
2485
1266
1165
3965
4470
3245
1572
2102
1717
4276
987
4322
399
1515
1726
3476
4800
1538
1631
2122
3486
4146
5049

[EricH]

Two drafts left before the end of drafting season:

Lansing and Waterford.

I'm questionable at best for running tomorrow, more likely out.

[Koko Ed]

4680
5224
5238
3619
3875
240
5084
3538
1
4994
4851
2612
3707
3773
573
3535
3096
4758
3632
3302
5300
2137
5216
51
5233
5239
3098
5081
67
5073
1718
5050
5017
4998
469
3539
5008
5048
5144
5225

[Koko Ed]

1254
5256
3357
4389
4838
1940
3639
3655
5300
5316
3546
5173
5282
5257
5056
5067
5205
5251
5217
5167
5014
5162
5177
5182
5233
5234
5235
5246

[bam-bam]

Just to let you know guys, near the beginning of the events, all the teams come off the waivers immediately and become free agents. First come, first grab.

[EricH]

Yep.

At this point, I'm figuring that there isn't exactly time to run a waiver before Week 1, so all teams are first-come, first serve. (Though... double-check waivers to make sure. I think we got 'em all, but sometimes one slips through.)


Also, now would be a GREAT time to check on all your Week 1 teams to see if they're still planning to show up (and get replacements!).

[bam-bam]

Just a small reminder and PSA to you all: check next week and see if you are missing any teams. MTP is valid up until each Monday now, and you can use it to claim any team that comes off waivers (AKA new teams!) so put it good use while you can!

[MARS_James]

Alright time for scores to come slowly, if you think there is a problem with your scores let me know.

[JosephC]

I decided to check out our scores and I'm glad I did. I went through every score and it seems like there's an insane amount of errors. 8/18 scores are wrong on both scored drafts according to my calculations. Some aren't major, +/- 2 points, but some are missing upwards of +/- 10 points or more. You can check my calculations here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlP8xDWie3ZfdF9sQUlpckxGbDVEQ0t4bzFxN0NUV Xc#gid=0

and

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlP8xDWie3ZfdGpyNEJaaDhKOFNLbzUtY0NpNm54U lE&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Red = Wrong
Green = Correct

EDIT: I get my data from here: http://www3.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/regional-events
And I'm scoring using the link posted in the very beginning of this thread.

[MARS_James]

I decided to check out our scores and I'm glad I did. I went through every score and it seems like there's an insane amount of errors. 8/18 scores are wrong on both scored drafts according to my calculations. Some aren't major, +/- 2 points, but some are missing upwards of +/- 10 points or more. You can check my calculations here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlP8xDWie3ZfdF9sQUlpckxGbDVEQ0t4bzFxN0NUV Xc#gid=0

and

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlP8xDWie3ZfdGpyNEJaaDhKOFNLbzUtY0NpNm54U lE&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Red = Wrong
Green = Correct

EDIT: I get my data from here: http://www3.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/regional-events
And I'm scoring using the link posted in the very beginning of this thread.

You are correct on almost all your corrections from what i am seeing, i will go through and change scores where appropriate
EDIT: Thus far only problems is you have is 1051 has 6 points in palmetto not 3, and for 1311 and 281 deans list is 4 points not 8, 1648 is a quarter finalist so there score evens out to 0

[bam-bam]

I will update tier lists tonight or tomorrow. CHECK THE WAIVERS!

[MARS_James]

If anyone as a way for me to get the official rankings for Center Line District I would appreciate it

[JosephC]

You are correct on almost all your corrections from what i am seeing, i will go through and change scores where appropriate
EDIT: Thus far only problems is you have is 1051 has 6 points in palmetto not 3, and for 1311 and 281 deans list is 4 points not 8, 1648 is a quarter finalist so there score evens out to 0

Ahh your right, my bad. I'll help out with scoring and PM you my google docs so we can double check each other.

[MARS_James]

I also would love if someone (most likely bam-bam) can make sure all the drafts are correct because i stumbled across RUSH27 in Alamo

[bam-bam]

I also would love if someone (most likely bam-bam) can make sure all the drafts are correct because i stumbled across RUSH27 in Alamo

If you prefer, I can leave the draft updates up until Thursday night when roster locks.

EDIT: Did I leave RUSH27 by accident? My bad....

[BrennanB]

Some teams still have MTP even after the event is over?

[EricH]

Some teams still have MTP even after the event is over?

It happens. Usually, we call those holes in the draft and grab the first random team to fill the hole--in order of the drafting, in case of multiple holes.

[JosephC]

It happens. Usually, we call those holes in the draft and grab the first random team to fill the hole--in order of the drafting, in case of multiple holes.

In which case I shall fix the scores.

[BrennanB]

It happens. Usually, we call those holes in the draft and grab the first random team to fill the hole--in order of the drafting, in case of multiple holes.

Yeah I just meant once the event is over and scored. Gotta shove in some randoms not leave it MTP.

I can also help score if we need it.

[JosephC]

If anyone as a way for me to get the official rankings for Center Line District I would appreciate it

We have a serious problem. I can't find the rankings for Center Line anywhere.

[Koko Ed]

We have a serious problem. I can't find the rankings for Center Line anywhere.

We should ask anyone who was there if they have the information.

[Basel A]

We should ask anyone who was there if they have the information.

They were never posted, but Ed Law said he got them from the FTA there. I can't attach anything, but you can grab the standings from his Scouting Database.

[Jay O'Donnell]

We have a serious problem. I can't find the rankings for Center Line anywhere.

It's also on the FRC tracker 2014 app.

[bam-bam]

For the updated team selections, I left out the remaining teams since the rosters are locked anyway.

[MARS_James]

Sorry for the significant delays in scoring events, new team, new job, new responsibilities, plus the increase in events have made the process much longer. I am hoping to catch up this week so that teams are better informed in how they are sitting halfway through the competitions. Thank you for your understanding

[Koko Ed]

Sorry for the significant delays in scoring events, new team, new job, new responsibilities, plus the increase in events have made the process much longer. I am hoping to catch up this week so that teams are better informed in how they are sitting halfway through the competitions. Thank you for your understanding

I guess it's safe to say you're swamped.

[BrennanB]

I guess it's safe to say you're swamped.

So then do we need some people to help score?

[Koko Ed]

So then do we need some people to help score?

Yeah. Most definitely.

[BrennanB]

Yeah. Most definitely.

Alright I can do some.

In the doc in the first post, how exactly are the "high score" points awarded? Or do you use that?

Also should I post directly in the thread? Or send em' to James to check over first?

[JosephC]

Alright I can do some.

In the doc in the first post, how exactly are the "high score" points awarded? Or do you use that?

Also should I post directly in the thread? Or send em' to James to check over first?

Find the match with the highest score at the event you're scoring. The 3 winners of that match(the ones who actually made the High Score) receive an additional 5 points added onto their score(I count it as awards points in my spreadsheets).

I'd say post them right in the thread and then send em over to James and I, one of us will check them.


Also, sorry I haven't been scoring either, I've been spending my time going through all the waivers and such as well as volunteering constantly, I should have some scores posted later today.

EDIT: Make sure you send any District Scores to James in particular, he needs them to create the District Rankings for the District Champs.

[BrennanB]

Also if anyone wants to know what the standings look like right now... (That is of the events that have been scored) (AKA week 1 minus Centerline)

1 Peach Alliance 964
2 The Phantom Zone 908
3 Curiosity 802
4 PureMichigan 800
5 The Breakfast Company 794
6 Team 3 787
7 Sour Patch Nerds 760
8 Prestige Taco 750
9 Falcon 659
10 Team Flippin' The Greatest 632
11 The Fighting Calculators 631
12 Team Hindsight 603
13 Team Awesome Blossom 517
14 Automated Scoring 499
15 LTown Throwdown 401
16 Team Spark 362
17 Schrodinger's Cat 340
18 Koko's X-Cats 340


EDIT - Live (ish) rankings can be found here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sku7Yu2eFLyOh45RdHZybyhwt-e1K7Updq332sGR7hg/edit#gid=0)

[bam-bam]

Scorers, please hold on to your scores for this week, as I have forgotten to account for waivers. I will let you all know when I am done.

[BrennanB]

Scorers, please hold on to your scores for this week, as I have forgotten to account for waivers. I will let you all know when I am done.

Don't worry, we have barely started scoring week 2 events :/

[bam-bam]

Don't worry, we have barely started scoring week 2 events :/

I have some time available this week (surprisingly enough!). If one of you could send me your excel spreadsheets for scoring, I can do my best to get us all caught up.

[JosephC]

Don't worry, we have barely started scoring week 2 events :/

I've been much much busier then anticipated since I've been upgraded to Field Supervisor instead of Field Reset. Oh my free time where'd it go.

[MARS_James]

I thank everyone who has scored events, I am going to try to get us caught up as I now have all the week 3 events scored and just need to apply them and then I will back track to fill week 2 events that aren't scored yet.

I do have 1 request if you wish to score an event try to pick a district. If we are unable to catch up the districts need to all be scored and rank a week ahead of the regionals so they should take priority.

[bam-bam]

Rescored San Diego.

[bam-bam]

Rescored Lake Superior.

[bam-bam]

Rescored Northern Lights.

Apologies for the errors. I will make sure this won't happen in the future again.

[BrennanB]

And with all those rescores, the new live rankings have been updated (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sku7Yu2eFLyOh45RdHZybyhwt-e1K7Updq332sGR7hg/edit#gid=0)

[bam-bam]

I checked over the rosters for week 4, and cleared them all of waivers, so it is now available for scoring.

[The Lucas]

I scored/attached the Springside Chestnut Hill District using EricH's 2012 template for the MOE scout FF league. I don't know if someone else scored it or who is responsible for it, but I figured if I posted it here it might do some good. Please check it before using the scores. I haven't scored since 2012 so something may have changed w/o my knowledge. I also credited backup 3929 with a SF finish for their 1 loss in the SF. I'm not sure what the official scoring is for backups like that...

[JosephC]

I'm not sure what the official scoring is for backups like that...

This.

288 captained the winning alliance at Midland, but they were replaced after the first QF's match. Do they get points for winning, or just QF's? Also, does their replacement bot get points for winning?

[EricH]

For replacement robots: All members of the alliance are equal in terms of tourney points, wherever the alliance ends up. However, if I was scoring, this would not extend to W-L-T records--3929 would have a 10-point SF finish, but a 0-1-0 elims record for -2 points. 288 would get the 30 points for winning, but only the +- 2 for their first QF match; their replacement would get the 30 points for the win, plus their W-L-T (which would be something on the order of 5-X-0).

As a note, when I was scoring, I actually had to notice the backup team being placed in there to give 'em credit.

[The Lucas]

but a 0-1-0 elims record for -2 points.

Are there still negative points for losing? I didn't bother with the loss column. I thought we gave up negative points in '10 when winning and losing were kinda the same thing :rolleyes: (aka the year of 6v0)

[EricH]

Are there still negative points for losing? I didn't bother with the loss column. I thought we gave up negative points in '10 when winning and losing were kinda the same thing :rolleyes: (aka the year of 6v0)

They returned this year.

[bam-bam]

So... there was a tie in high score at Springside. Do I account for all teams that were involved with the high score although they all played in separate matches? I am going to assume this is the case.

[EricH]

So... there was a tie in high score at Springside. Do I account for all teams that were involved with the high score although they all played in separate matches? I am going to assume this is the case.

Yep. If you got the high score, you get the high score points.

[bam-bam]

Yep. If you got the high score, you get the high score points.

With that being said then, all the week 2 events should be scored 100% now, and I am beginning on the district events for week 3.

If the scorers do not mind, I will take on the district events as priority. James needs the scores in order the FiM, PNW, NEFIRST, and MAR champs properly.

[bam-bam]

I deeply apologize for not getting any scores lately, but we need all hands on deck ASAP for district scores. We may not even run the Fim, PNW, NEFirst, and MAR champ drafts due to lack of district scores.

That being said, I will attempt to get one whole week done. I have several exams next week and I can't afford to waste time.

[BrennanB]

I deeply apologize for not getting any scores lately, but we need all hands on deck ASAP for district scores. We may not even run the Fim, PNW, NEFirst, and MAR champ drafts due to lack of district scores.

That being said, I will attempt to get one whole week done. I have several exams next week and I can't afford to waste time.

If anyone can help out I can set them up with our G-Doc. Even just doing a little bit like copying down the teams or subbing in randoms for missing teams would help a lot.

[JosephC]

I deeply apologize for not getting any scores lately, but we need all hands on deck ASAP for district scores. We may not even run the Fim, PNW, NEFirst, and MAR champ drafts due to lack of district scores.

That being said, I will attempt to get one whole week done. I have several exams next week and I can't afford to waste time.

I'm going to do all the FIM ones right now. If you've already started working on one let me know so I don't waste time.

If anyone can help out I can set them up with our G-Doc. Even just doing a little bit like copying down the teams or subbing in randoms for missing teams would help a lot.

Copying down the teams is super easy and saves us so much time.

[JosephC]

Peach Alliance -- 619
Curiosity -- 498
Automated Scoring -- 473
The Breakfast Company -- 458
Team Flippin' The Greatest -- 442
The Phantom Zone -- 428
Team Hindsight -- 406
The Fighting Calculators -- 390
Team 3 -- 376
PureMichigan -- 331
Team Spark -- 323
Team Awesome Blossom -- 298
Falcon -- 269
Sour Patch Nerds -- 251
Prestige Taco -- 250
LTown Throwdown -- 188
Schrodinger's Cat -- 168
Koko's X-Cats -- 120

[JosephC]

We can run the MAR District Champs draft whenever the team lineup gets released, MAR doesn't have a week 6.

[Koko Ed]

We can run the MAR District Champs draft whenever the team lineup gets released, MAR doesn't have a week 6.

MAR has 54 teams a nd looks ready to go.
Is PNW really going to go with only 39 teams for their championship?

[JosephC]

MAR has 54 teams a nd looks ready to go.
Is PNW really going to go with only 39 teams for their championship?

Oregon State University District is PNW's week 6, so I assume they'll have more teams next week.


With 18 FF teams we'd need 54 teams to run a single draft. Works out perfectly. What day should I run it?

EDIT: I'm not sure how MAR works, but in FiM, if a team decides they aren't going to attend, the next team in the waitlist is immediately contacted, so we most likely wouldn't have an issue with a team dropping and only having 53 teams.

[BrennanB]

Oregon State University District is PNW's week 6, so I assume they'll have more teams next week.


With 18 FF teams we'd need 54 teams to run a single draft. Works out perfectly. What day should I run it?


Well we need to run 4 before next Thursday, so maybe:

MAR - April 6th
???? - April 7th
???? - April 8th
???? - April 9th

[PVCpirate]

can someone post a link to the standings Google doc? I must have lost it or something.

[Alpha Beta]

can someone post a link to the standings Google doc? I must have lost it or something.

Here it is (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sku7Yu2eFLyOh45RdHZybyhwt-e1K7Updq332sGR7hg/edit#gid=0)

[bam-bam]

Congratulations on your WFFA win at South Florida, James!

[JosephC]

Shoutout to my Google Doc compadres; Brennan, Wolly, and bambam. We're all caught up on districts now.

[nikeairmancurry]

Just looking at the spreadsheet... How is Pure Michigan ahead of Team 3? The point totals would suggest the opposite. I do thank all the scorers for all their hard work.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Shoutout to my Google Doc compadres; Brennan, Wolly, and bambam. We're all caught up on districts now.

Is northeastern done? It isn't on the google doc that was posted above.

[JosephC]

Is northeastern done? It isn't on the google doc that was posted above.

Yes Sir, the google doc above is Brennan's pet project. It may/may not be updated to include all scored events at any given time.

[JosephC]

Just looking at the spreadsheet... How is Pure Michigan ahead of Team 3? The point totals would suggest the opposite. I do thank all the scorers for all their hard work.

The actual file is in Excel I believe*(So Brennan can do cool stuff with it), with him just copying info over to google docs to be viewed. My guess is that he just forgot to switch them around(or mistyped the scores).

*note I'm not 100% sure on this, bad memory.

[JosephC]

Peach Alliance -- 1846
Automated Scoring -- 1799
Team 3 -- 1641
Sour Patch Nerds -- 1310
PureMichigan -- 1164
The Breakfast Company -- 1067
Curiosity -- 977
The Phantom Zone -- 945
Falcon -- 850
Prestige Taco -- 821
Schrodinger's Cat -- 771
Koko's X-Cats -- 748
Team Awesome Blossom -- 561
Team Hindsight -- 543
Team Flippin' The Greatest -- 534
Team Spark -- 519
LTown Throwdown -- 459
The Fighting Calculators -- 442

[JosephC]

LTown Throwdown -- 717
Team Flippin' The Greatest -- 705
Automated Scoring -- 685
Team 3 -- 673
The Phantom Zone -- 666
PureMichigan -- 663
The Breakfast Company -- 641
Peach Alliance -- 582
Schrodinger's Cat -- 561
Sour Patch Nerds -- 549
Prestige Taco -- 504
Team Hindsight -- 501
The Fighting Calculators -- 430
Curiosity -- 403
Falcon -- 331
Team Spark -- 247
Team Awesome Blossom -- 225
Koko's X-Cats -- 107

[JosephC]

PureMichigan -- 880
Automated Scoring -- 791
Team 3 -- 741
Peach Alliance -- 681
Sour Patch Nerds -- 643
Team Spark -- 623
The Breakfast Company -- 616
The Phantom Zone -- 591
Team Flippin' The Greatest -- 586
Team Hindsight -- 570
Curiosity -- 517
Schrodinger's Cat -- 507
Team Awesome Blossom -- 472
Koko's X-Cats -- 460
Prestige Taco -- 436
The Fighting Calculators -- 307
Falcon -- 275
LTown Throwdown -- 239

[JosephC]

Since we need 4 drafts run by Thursday, this is the schedule.

MAR - April 6th, Sunday
PNW - April 7th, Monday
FIM - April 8th, Tuesday
NEFIRST - April 9th, Wednesday


And don't even tell me you didn't have enough warning to make a picklist by tomorrow for MAR, their championship team list has been up for a week now.

Of course, Eric and Ed can always overrule me and put two drafts on one day, but I'll be starting up the MAR thread shortly.

[Koko Ed]

Since we need 4 drafts run by Thursday, this is the schedule.

MAR - April 6th, Sunday
PNW - April 7th, Monday
FIM - April 8th, Tuesday
NEFIRST - April 9th, Wednesday


And don't even tell me you didn't have enough warning to make a picklist by tomorrow for MAR, their championship team list has been up for a week now.

Of course, Eric and Ed can always overrule me and put two drafts on one day, but I'll be starting up the MAR thread shortly.
Sounds good to me!

[JosephC]

357
3929
2577
1218
225
272
102
3974
869
2729
203
2191
75
1302
1712
293
11
2539
365
1923
56
1640
3314
222
4361
1089
1279
223
484
1228
1403
4035
4954
4373
1626
2559
2590
1257
316
303
2180
1676
433
193
1495
341
2495
1989
25
3142
304
1647
4573
5113
708

[JosephC]

With PNW only having 40 teams registered, and FIM and NEFIRST not having enough teams registered yet, we'll still be running PNW tomorrow but it will be two drafts.

Drafts will be split as such:

Rank 1
Rank 3
Rank 5
Rank 7
Rank 9
etc.

Rank 2
Rank 4
Rank 6
Rank 8
Rank 10
etc.

[iPenguin]

With PNW only having 40 teams registered, and FIM and NEFIRST not having enough teams registered yet, we'll still be running PNW tomorrow but it will be two drafts.

Drafts will be split as such:

Rank 1
Rank 3
Rank 5
Rank 7
Rank 9
etc.

Rank 2
Rank 4
Rank 6
Rank 8
Rank 10
etc.

Um....why not just do 2 tiers like normal?

EDIT: Oh you meant split the players like that. Okay, nvm.

[BrennanB]

Yes Sir, the google doc above is Brennan's pet project. It may/may not be updated to include all scored events at any given time.

The overall scores are mostly done, there are a few events that still aren't up yet, but will be up later today.

It seems that so far it is a two-man race for first between Automated Scoring, and Peach Alliance.

[JosephC]

4057
3812
2412
4450
360
1294
2923
956
2002
2907
1425
1983
3070
2557
2521
3674
2903
2149
4911
4061
2928
3663
488
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3393
4488
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955
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3789
2411
5111
997
4125
2522
4559
3711
2471
2046
3574
4131
1595
2927

[JosephC]

So I'll be at MSC Wednesday. Unless we want to run the NEFIRST draft at 10pm, I need someone else to do it.

[JosephC]

3618
1506
453
3539
4003
3548
2337
910
5053
33
4391
5162
1250
74
67
3175
4956
548
1918
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3322
3688
314
3641
280
27
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308
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503
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68
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5193
3534
573
862
2771
815
1023
3604
70
2960
3667
857
2619
245
469
4988
51

[Koko Ed]

So I'll be at MSC Wednesday. Unless we want to run the NEFIRST draft at 10pm, I need someone else to do it.

I'll be @ MSC tomorrow and Wednesday so I can't do it.

[EricH]

I'm out as well.

[BrennanB]

I am also not available.

[Koko Ed]

I'll be @ MSC tomorrow and Wednesday so I can't do it.

If enough people pick early and we get enough of the field completed I may be able to get back in time to run the draft (I'm only 5 miles from the arena).
Thus we need Curiosity to make their pick now.

[JosephC]

If enough people pick early and we get enough of the field completed I may be able to get back in time to run the draft (I'm only 5 miles from the arena).
Thus we need Curiosity to make their pick now.

Oh, I'll be here all day running the MSC draft. I just can't run the NEFirst one tomorrow.

[Koko Ed]

Oh, I'll be here all day running the MSC draft. I just can't run the NEFirst one tomorrow.

I'm helping with Load In. #nocando

[JosephC]

I'm helping with Load In. #nocando

If no one can run NEFIRST tomorrow, I could always run it at noon before I leave for MSC.

[Koko Ed]

If no one can run NEFIRST tomorrow, I could always run it at noon before I leave for MSC.

That may be the only solution.

[MARS_James]

I can run it tomorrow no problem

[Koko Ed]

I can run it tomorrow no problem

Thanks James!

[JosephC]

Passing the torch off to James for NEFIRST. You'll have my list before the draft tomorrow James.

[bam-bam]

I will rescore the Hartford and Northeastern events. I can't do it right now unfortunately, but post back here when I am done.

[MARS_James]

LTown Throwdown -- 717
Team Flippin' The Greatest -- 705
Automated Scoring -- 685
Team 3 -- 673
The Phantom Zone -- 666
PureMichigan -- 663
The Breakfast Company -- 641
Peach Alliance -- 582
Schrodinger's Cat -- 561
Sour Patch Nerds -- 549
Prestige Taco -- 504
Team Hindsight -- 501
The Fighting Calculators -- 430
Curiosity -- 403
Falcon -- 331
Team Spark -- 247
Team Awesome Blossom -- 225
Koko's X-Cats -- 107

Is this still correct in terms of rank or is it different with the rescores?

[bam-bam]

I don't have access to the total MAR standings, so I don't know.

Here are the corrected scores so far, James, so you can make changes:

Hartford:
Prestige Taco
Peach alliance
Curiosity
Automated Scoring

Northeastern:
Peach alliance
Phantom Zone
Awesome Blossom
Falcon
Flippin'

[MARS_James]

LTown Throwdown -- 717
Automated Scoring -- 711
Team Flippin' The Greatest -- 707
Team 3 -- 673
The Phantom Zone -- 671
PureMichigan -- 663
The Breakfast Company -- 641
Peach Alliance -- 632
Schrodinger's Cat -- 561
Sour Patch Nerds -- 549
Prestige Taco -- 510
Team Hindsight -- 501
The Fighting Calculators -- 430
Curiosity -- 409
Falcon -- 333
Team Spark -- 247
Team Awesome Blossom -- 230
Koko's X-Cats -- 107

Ok so with the changes these should be the new ranks only change was automated is now two while flippin is now 3

Randoms:
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2877
811
4925
177
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4958
58
178
228
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176
558
5122
166
172
133
195
4473
246
237
61
2067
1058
2168
78
1519
2084
1153
4761
999
3525
125
1099
1073
1100
131
69
2064
1991
4564
319
230
716

[JosephC]

I don't have access to the total MAR standings, so I don't know.

Yeah sorry about that, I just kind of made a macro that did it for me(after double checking to make sure the scores were right).

[bam-bam]

Small general PSA that all week 3 events are nearly scored. Look for Sacramento and Tech Valley scores within the next few days.

[bam-bam]

All week 3 events have been scored.

[Woolly]

So, I'm scoring Buckeye, and apparently 4 teams dropped out late, and there are 3 teams available to replace them with. How should I handle this?

[BrennanB]

So, I'm scoring Buckeye, and apparently 4 teams dropped out late, and there are 3 teams available to replace them with. How should I handle this?

Apparently 54 teams were registered, so we should have just enough...

[JosephC]

So, I'm scoring Buckeye, and apparently 4 teams dropped out late, and there are 3 teams available to replace them with. How should I handle this?

Double, triple check. If there's for sure only 3 teams available, put in replacements as normal. Last person only gets two teams.

[Koko Ed]

The Championship Drafts Schedules are as follow:
Archimedes is Friday @ 7pm EST
Curie is Saturday @ 7pm EST
Galileo is Sunday @ 7pm EST
Newton is Monday @ 7pm EST

[Koko Ed]

The ranking will be based on OPR and no shows will get picks from the 50th ranked team and down.

[Koko Ed]

Gonna need those standing ASAP!