View Full Version : Registration 2014
Mark McLeod
25-09-2013, 09:52
Registration numbers might be increasingly difficult to track this year now that FIRST is up to four distinct district systems.
Assuming team growth doesn't force the last minute addition of more district events like we've seen some years, we now have close to 100 regular season competition events:
54 Regional events
37 District events
4 District Championships
1 World Championship
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96 events
Nearly 25% more events this year than last year.
That's more events than there were teams for the first five years of FRC's existence.
More than 40% of FRC events are now under the district system.
The 2014 season has officially begun:)
Thanks Mark, this thread is always awesome
MARS_James
25-09-2013, 13:09
So how many teams from each district move on to Championship?
To my knowledge (and the minimal research I have done.) it is:
27 from Michigan
14 from MAR
30 from NE
24 from PNW
So this means for Championship we have 95 District Slots, 324 Regional Slots, 18 Hall of Fame Slots, And the 4 Slots from last years Championship. So if they don't let teams sustaining from 1992 on (Though I am sure they will) we have 441 Championship slots correct?
PayneTrain
25-09-2013, 14:11
So how many teams from each district move on to Championship?
To my knowledge (and the minimal research I have done.) it is:
27 from Michigan
14 from MAR
30 from NE
24 from PNW
So this means for Championship we have 95 District Slots, 324 Regional Slots, 18 Hall of Fame Slots, And the 4 Slots from last years Championship. So if they don't let teams sustaining from 1992 on (Though I am sure they will) we have 441 Championship slots correct?
If you want to go through the personal pain of perusing some of my posts from last year, this was a problem where I believe there were ~425 CMP slots. However by the end of it all they were still calling in waitlisted teams the week of CMP and ended up having ~50 waitlisted teams. I hope and expect they imagine a certain number of slots to "disappear" like they did with the Wild Card last year, or they might move to a system where Wild Cards are not given bids automatically but are instead put on a waitlist.
Edit: referencing a blog post from the director, 85% of all offered slots were filled by teams that accepted them for CMP. If this held or increased up to 90%, you would still have fewer than 400 teams in the event on a non-waitlist bid.
So this means for Championship we have 95 District Slots, 324 Regional Slots, 18 Hall of Fame Slots, And the 4 Slots from last years Championship. So if they don't let teams sustaining from 1992 on (Though I am sure they will) we have 441 Championship slots correct?
Some teams can't afford to go to the championships even if they are a dominant competitor. It costs alot to go to St. Louis as a team.
MechEng83
25-09-2013, 14:47
I thought district bids were based on percentage of teams in the district relative to the total number of teams, multiplied by the number of championship slots -- meaning michigan might have more or less than 27 slots.
I'm not sure how this works out, because if they "plan" on a 400 team championship, it's possible that districts could get fewer bids, as there would only be 76 "other" slots.
Reasons CMP needs more capacity than 400.
Also: CMP only having 8 matches per team was a big point of contention in 2013.
There's really only a few ways to get more capacity AND more matches/team.
Make the event longer. This is a bad idea for lots of reasons, mostly cost and burnout related.
Make the matches shorter. Again, a bad idea. The matches are short enough as it is.
Reduce field reset time. Not sure how much room for improvement there truly is here. Even with 2013's huge numbers of game pieces, field reset crews were pretty efficient.
Those three are the only way to achieve more matches/team and more teams, without adding more fields. The truth is, there is no option to achieve this (especially at the rate FIRST is growing now) without adding more fields to CMP. There's two options for how to do that.
Adding more divisions. Going to 6 or 8 divisions adds time to Einstein, which is already much longer than it should be. BUT, doing this might make Einstein feel less tedious. The downside is that you need 50-100% MORE volunteers than CMP already needs. Additionally, the space required for the fields to run 8 separate divisions starts to get really hard to find, and noise pollution from adjacent fields could be a problem as well.
Making the divisions run two fields, a la 2004/2006 Greater Toronto Regionals. Same number of fields as 8 divisions, but needs far fewer volunteers, especially if its done smart. Also, solves the noise pollution and space problems. The two fields can be placed much closer together than if they were separate divisions. With the new 2015 control system coming down the pipe, it would be comparatively easy for FIRST to set up the scorpion boxes to talk to two sets of field hardware as a single division. Achieves nearly double the match throughput of a single field.
I had calculated it out not long ago, IIRC, doublefield divisions would allow 140 teams per division to have 12 matches without increasing the length of CMP at all.
On another note:
I'm rather concerned about Ontario's capacity, especially in the Toronto area. Of the 73 2013 veteran teams, the relocated and downsized GTRWest is geographically the closest event to 40 of them. It only has a 30 team capacity. This completely ignoring the 20 or so 2012 veterans lost to teacher action in 2013 who will be returning (many of them from the Toronto area), and whatever new rookies come for 2014.
My prediction is that Ontario is approximately a whole 30-40 team event (ideally located in Mississauga, ironically) short on capacity.
Mark McLeod
26-09-2013, 12:05
725 teams registered during the first five minutes.
Past 1000 teams in 28 minutes.
Another capacity crunch will be in the DC area, as the DC and Chesapeake regionals both move to new venues with smaller capacities and the area continues to gain FRC teams. I'm hopeful that we might be able to get a second event for some of the DC teams because of district teams first regional registration being pushed back to third regionals for non-district teams.
Does anyone else not see the specific teams that are registered for an event? I see quantity of teams, but when I click on "See The Teams Registered for this Event" is doesn't list the teams.
Wetzel
ebmonon36
26-09-2013, 12:11
The servers seem to be holding up much better than last year.
I'm very impressed with the speed in which I was able to register.
Looks like the Boilermaker Regional only has five spots left (with the 10-team buffer) fifteen minutes in.
WPI filled up in under ten minutes.
Billfred
26-09-2013, 12:25
4901 was in and out in maybe three minutes. South Florida, here we come!
Thank you FIRST for enabling teams to register so quickly and cleanly this year. This was the best first FIRST event registration from ease and speed that I recall for a long time.
Kudos!
Interesting tidbit: several of the Ontario teams from 2012 that disappeared in 2013 are back already. 4250, 1246, 188, 886.
MARS_James
26-09-2013, 12:29
Looks like 4900 is the lowest rookie number and it is to Magic Island from Brazil
Also: Its pretty apparent that the vets are favouring the GTRWest and Waterloo events due to their popularity and small capacity. GTREast, North Bay, and Windsor are all showing very few teams (other than rookies from the Windsor area)
ehochstein
26-09-2013, 12:31
Team 10 has returned to Minnesota.
Mark McLeod
26-09-2013, 12:35
Does anyone else not see the specific teams that are registered for an event? I see quantity of teams, but when I click on "See The Teams Registered for this Event" is doesn't list the teams.
I can see the team lists, but I'm probably not using the same entry as you are.
Whoa. 746. A new 2002 rookie with no history pre-2014 at GTRWest. A resurrection to be sure. Anybody know what their old number was?
Nevermind. Not a resurrection. A new second team at the same school as 886. I believe this may be the first double team school in Canada, joining the ranks of 494/70, 216/244/288 from MI.
Found the team lists.
First UAE team headed to Chesapeake.
Al Ain, AZ United Arab Emirates Manor Hall International School 4928
Interesting. Montreal is full with only 6 rookies. and 3360 may have created a situation for themselves where they can't even go to their home regional.
Also interesting? What's happening with the team names of the various Ontario teams restructured as community teams last year. Some, like 1114, have dropped their 2013 name and reverted back to their 2012 and prior styling, while others, like 1241, have kept the 2013 style, and still others, like 1334, have added their school name back in, but kept their 2013 name as well.
Is there an easy way to view the list of all registered teams, rather than sorting by regional or area? The old "What teams are in my area?" used to let me do that, but with the redesign it isn't giving that option anymore.
Mark McLeod
26-09-2013, 12:58
Use the old one: What Events And Teams Are In My Area? (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=searchform)
Use the old one: What Events And Teams Are In My Area? (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=searchform)
Perfect! Didn't realize that was still online. Thanks Mark!
PayneTrain
26-09-2013, 13:05
Is there an easy way to view the list of all registered teams, rather than sorting by regional or area? The old "What teams are in my area?" used to let me do that, but with the redesign it isn't giving that option anymore.
AFAIK, just about anything from the old stuff can be reached through frclinks, with an exception being team landing pages. However sometimes it will flip over to the new system so your mileage may vary.
Akash Rastogi
26-09-2013, 13:07
Whoa. 746. A new 2002 rookie with no history pre-2014 at GTRWest. A resurrection to be sure. Anybody know what their old number was?
Nevermind. Not a resurrection. A new second team at the same school as 886. I believe this may be the first double team school in Canada, joining the ranks of 494/70, 216/244/288 from MI.
11/193 from Flanders, NJ since 2013, and newest is 223/265 from Lakeland HS in NJ which is newly registered.
ice.berg
26-09-2013, 13:39
Team 10 has returned to Minnesota.
I noticed this as well, cool to see some teams being revived!
Team 2512 is now registered for Northern Lights Regional!
On a side note.....
MORE OF YOU SHOULD COME TO MINNESOTA!
M. Mellott
26-09-2013, 14:14
Rookie Team 4975 from Turkey will be attending the new NY Tech Valley Regional--very interesting!!
Is there a 5000s team yet?
Is there a 5000s team yet?
Not yet but we're getting close. Highest right now is 4988 from Cedarville, MI
waialua359
26-09-2013, 14:37
Thank you FIRST for enabling teams to register so quickly and cleanly this year. This was the best first FIRST event registration from ease and speed that I recall for a long time.
Kudos!
Yes!
It made my 6am get ready for work time a whole lot less stressing.
Akash Rastogi
26-09-2013, 15:24
Hey 368 is back!
Great to see this strong team back for FRC!
Is there a 5000s team yet?
Just hit 5000th team from Hingham, MA USA.
Gary Dillard
26-09-2013, 15:45
Thank you FIRST for enabling teams to register so quickly and cleanly this year. This was the best first FIRST event registration from ease and speed that I recall for a long time.
Kudos!
I echo that. I was able to register by iPhone in about 2 minutes, while boarding a plane in Atlanta. When I realized I had a 12:21 flight, I wasn't sure I was going to get it done until I got home.
Christopher149
26-09-2013, 15:54
Ooh, 4995 is a new team. They're living in Paradise (http://frclinks.frclinks.com/e/MIESC/2014), Michigan
Also glad to see the Harris team - the UP is getting some really rural teams this year.
<rant>
And I will get 857 registered just as soon as people reply to my emails!!!!
</rant>
Kims Robot
26-09-2013, 15:56
New England Signups
Registered/Open
Granite State: 25/5
UNH: 16/14
Groton: 13/17
WPI: 31/0
RI: 1/29
Southington: 12/18
Northeastern: 19/11
Hartford: 8/22
Pine Tree: 1/29
Which would suggest that 126 FRC NE teams have already registered. I believe last year there were 147, and I think this year's projection was around 160, so that would suggest that ~34 teams have yet to register, but that almost 79% of New England teams have already registered for their first event!
Jscout11
26-09-2013, 16:27
MAR Events:
Mount Olive: 22/13
Hatboro-Horsham: 21/14
Springside-Chestnut Hill: 7/24
Clifton: 3/32
Lenape-Seneca: 8/27
Bridgewater-Raritan 13/24
Total MAR teams registered: 74 (68% of teams in 2013)
Also, it's worth noting that right now that the FIRST site shows two new Mar Teams so far:
4954 Palindrome Robotics Clubfrom Delaware
265 Moderate Heat (223's JV Team)
3 new teams so far in Silicon Valley: 4973 in San Francisco and 4904 and 4990, both from Hillsborough. Capuchino High School in San Bruno has a new team entered in the Cal Games, so I assume they'd be going to SVR as well.
1986titans
26-09-2013, 16:38
Ooh, 4995 is a new team. They're living in Paradise (http://frclinks.frclinks.com/e/MIESC/2014), Michigan
Hey, I was up there this summer!
We've officially crossed 5000 with Quantum Robotics (http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/team/FRC/255071).
Combing through the 200+ new teams, there's already 4 new teams in the KC area (all on MO side), 6 unidentified in MO, and 1 unidentified in KS (might be in Manhattan, just got email that some KSU students are trying to start a team here again). Neat to see so much growth.
Great to see this strong team back for FRC!
188's back too!
Whoa. 746. A new 2002 rookie with no history pre-2014 at GTRWest. A resurrection to be sure. Anybody know what their old number was?
Nevermind. Not a resurrection. A new second team at the same school as 886. I believe this may be the first double team school in Canada, joining the ranks of 494/70, 216/244/288 from MI.
I believe both Emery CI and RH King in Toronto have fielded separate male and female teams in the past, thus having 2 FRC teams from the same school.
MARS_James
26-09-2013, 17:42
So as of right now we have 1369 of last years 2524 teams registered.
In Florida we have 35 of last years 64 veterans registered so I am guessing some areas have gaps like ours
Walter Deitzler
26-09-2013, 17:53
3397 is signed up for STL regional (got one of the last 2 slots, we missed the fact that registration was today.)
On that note, many strong teams are missing, it seems. 1985, 1094, 1288, 1208,931 are missing.
Some are at Central Illinois regional, but will hopefully come to St. Louis as a second regional.
I am also excited to see THRUST joining us, as well as the other out of state teams.
This is gonna be awesome.
waialua359
26-09-2013, 17:56
Great to see this strong team back for FRC!
Yes! Batman is Back!
-Robin
Right now, Orlando is 34%(14/41) Non-Floridians. I do believe there is also 5 teams from Brazil registered too.
jeser#1772
26-09-2013, 18:08
We were in Orlando last year, now we are going with some friends! :p
AlexD744
26-09-2013, 20:43
We were in Orlando last year, now we are going with some friends! :p
And it'll be great to have you back :) Glad to see your friends too, I love international events!
sanddrag
27-09-2013, 01:12
Is there any web page that shows all the regional capacities like FIRST used to have years ago before they did the big website upgrade? Especially with the increased number of events, this is really needed.
waialua359
27-09-2013, 03:39
Is there any web page that shows all the regional capacities like FIRST used to have years ago before they did the big website upgrade? Especially with the increased number of events, this is really needed.
I really miss that also and we were just talking about it today at work.
It even changed color as the regional event neared full capacity.
Mark McLeod
27-09-2013, 06:57
Past 1600 registered teams at 9am ET this morning.
Rookies:
118 rookie teams (not including new teams assigned veteran numbers)
(1) The UAE team 4928 has registered
(2) from Brazil
(2) from Chile
(1) Mexico
(2) Turkey
(27) Canada
(83) USA
I miss those old displays too.
Initial capacity (winners of the popularity or overcrowded contest) has been reached at:
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional
Montreal Regional
Arizona Regional (+5 more - there was some funny business at the start registration for this one)
Boilermaker Regional
WPI District (+1 more)6 more Regionals and 2 Districts are in the single digits, as of this morning.
Here's the initial published event capacity.
Add 5 or 10 or 15 depending on the type of event for the reserved slots.
I keep a running chart showing remaining slots, but it's a snapshot rather than being dynamic feedback.
400 - FIRST Championship
30 -- Central Illinois Regional
54 -- Palmetto Regional
54 -- Alamo Regional
24 -- Greater Toronto West Regional
30 -- Inland Empire Regional
50 -- Israel Regional
36 -- Greater Toronto East Regional
38 -- Arkansas Regional
47 -- San Diego Regional
35 -- Crossroads Regional
50 -- Lake Superior Regional
50 -- Northern Lights Regional
54 -- Hub City Regional
28 -- Central Valley Regional
42 -- Mexico City Regional
43 -- Sacramento Regional
54 -- Orlando Regional
50 -- Greater Kansas City Regional
26 -- St. Louis Regional
44 -- North Carolina Regional
30 -- New York Tech Valley Regional
38 -- Dallas Regional
44 -- Utah Regional
21 -- Waterloo Regional
32 -- Festival de Robotique FRC a Montreal Regional
20 -- Arizona Regional
55 -- Los Angeles Regional sponsored by The Roddenberry Foundation
30 -- Boilermaker Regional
50 -- Buckeye Regional
54 -- Virginia Regional
54 -- Wisconsin Regional
30 -- North Bay Regional
54 -- Peachtree Regional
28 -- Hawaii Regional
50 -- Minnesota North Star Regional
53 -- Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
40 -- SBPLI Long Island Regional
40 -- Finger Lakes Regional
47 -- Queen City Regional
54 -- Oklahoma Regional
44 -- Greater Pittsburgh Regional
40 -- Smoky Mountains Regional
38 -- Greater DC Regional
32 -- Western Canada Regional
38 -- Windsor Essex Great Lakes Regional
50 -- Silicon Valley Regional
44 -- Colorado Regional
42 -- South Florida Regional
44 -- Midwest Regional
54 -- Bayou Regional
44 -- Chesapeake Regional
42 -- Las Vegas Regional
56 -- New York City Regional
54 -- Lone Star Regional
0 --- New England FRC Region Championship
0 --- Michigan FRC State Championship
0 --- Autodesk PNW FRC Championship
0 --- Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship
35 -- Center Line FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Southfield FIRST Robotics District Competition
30 -- Granite State District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Auburn Mountainview District Event
35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Mt. Olive District Competition
35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Hatboro-Horsham District Competition
30 -- UNH District Event
35 -- Kettering University FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Gull Lake FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Oregon City District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Glacier Peak District Event
30 -- Groton District Event
30 -- WPI District Event
35 -- Escanaba FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Howell FIRST Robotics District Competition
31 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Springside Chestnut Hill District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Eastern Washington University District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Mt. Vernon District Event
35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Clifton District Competition
35 -- West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Traverse City FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Wilsonville District Event
30 -- Rhode Island District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Shorewood District Event
30 -- Southington District Event
35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Lenape-Seneca District Competition
30 -- Northeastern University District Event
35 -- Livonia FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- St. Joseph FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Auburn District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Central Washington University District Event
30 -- Hartford District Event
37 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Bridgewater-Raritan District Competition
30 -- Pine Tree District Event
35 -- Bedford FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Oregon State University District Event
Gary Dillard
27-09-2013, 13:16
Smoky Mountain just hit initial capacity; 6 rookies already on the list.
BrendanB
27-09-2013, 16:34
Team 1786 from Dublin, NH is a new team for 2014 that has a listed rookie season of 2006. Any news on who they are/were associated with?
MARS_James
27-09-2013, 16:41
Team 1786 from Dublin, NH is a new team for 2014 that has a listed rookie season of 2006. Any news on who they are/were associated with?
1729 Plan B used to be a part of The Dublin School and that is where 1786 is listed as being from so they are my best guess
Are any of those 6 "Early Filled" regionals the same as last year's "Early Fillers?"
MARS_James
27-09-2013, 16:48
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional
Montreal Regional
Arizona Regional (+5 more - there was some funny business at the start registration for this one)
Boilermaker Regional
WPI District (+1 more)
Interesting that 4/6 of those events are the same week with the other 2 being the same week as each other.
Also the 4 are the same week as Spring break in Palm Beach county. With the two being the weekend before.
Qbot2640
27-09-2013, 17:00
Smoky Mountain just hit initial capacity; 6 rookies already on the list.
I'm still a bit new to all of this, and don't completely understand what "reserved slots" are...but my team was hoping to make Smoky Mountains our second choice...is this still possible?
This regional filled quickly last year, and I considered making it our first choice, but I thought that last year's popularity may have been due to its proximity to the Easter Holiday.
Reserved slots are typically held back for rookie teams. It also gives the regional director some flexibility to manage the regional when things get hectic towards the final days of registration.
Peyton Yeung
27-09-2013, 17:11
I'm still a bit new to all of this, and don't completely understand what "reserved slots" are...but my team was hoping to make Smoky Mountains our second choice...is this still possible?
This regional filled quickly last year, and I considered making it our first choice, but I thought that last year's popularity may have been due to its proximity to the Easter Holiday.
Reserve slots are spots that the Regional sets aside for rookie teams that usually are in the area. They are there to allow rookies to compete in regionals that are in their area.
Edit: Oops rsisk beat me to it
Qbot2640
27-09-2013, 17:13
Reserve slots are spots that the Regional sets aside for rookie teams that usually are in the area. They are there to allow rookies to compete in regionals that are in their area.
Edit: Oops rsisk beat me to it
Is there any way of knowing how many reserved slots there are for a particular competition...and when do those slots open up to veteran teams?
Is there any way of knowing how many reserved slots there are for a particular competition...and when do those slots open up to veteran teams?
Probably not since it is at the discretion of the regional director and FIRST.
Qbot2640
27-09-2013, 17:51
Probably not since it is at the discretion of the regional director and FIRST.
So for planning purposes, we should rule this regional out?
So for planning purposes, we should rule this regional out?
Well, there is a significant risk of not getting one of those reserved spots since they are typically used for rookies. If I was planning for my team second regional, I would look for regionals with available spots without considering the reserved spots. YMMV
Mark McLeod
27-09-2013, 20:01
Here's a graph of the first 12 hours of registration.
The prior two years are included for comparison.
We were faster out of the gate this year (credit to FIRST IT for handling 1000 people registering all at once), but last year more (proportionally) of us were eager to get into an event the first day.
I'm interested to see if the District teams with more guaranteed slots are more laid back about registering, while the Regional teams close to the Districts scramble with increasingly more limited options for second events.
Registration for Districts:
MI: 126
MAR: 79
PNW: 137
NE: 131
Regionals: 1213
Here's a graph of the first 12 hours of registration.
The prior two years are included for comparison.
We were faster out of the gate this year (credit to FIRST IT for handling 1000 people registering all at once), but last year more (proportionally) of us were eager to get into an event the first day.
I'm interested to see if the District teams with more guaranteed slots are more laid back about registering, while the Regional teams close to the Districts scramble with increasingly more limited options for second events.
Registration for Districts:
MI: 126
MAR: 79
PNW: 137
NE: 131
Regionals: 1213
Here in New England, there was a scramble to register for 2 reasons.
1. Because this is new, we had no way of knowing what, if any, events would fill instantly.
2. We're used to it. Its in our blood for lead mentors to be sitting at a computer at 11:55AM waiting for registration to open. Mine did it pulled over at a gas station in the middle of nowhere. It would feel wrong not to do it.
And in a way, us New Englanders were right. WPI filled in under 10 minutes (which really shouldn't happen in a district system).
BBray_T1296
28-09-2013, 19:27
This stuff is all just Really cool! glad to see FIRST really take off
Calvin Hartley
29-09-2013, 00:16
Forgive me if this has already been covered in this thread or elsewhere, but...
Does anybody know how many rookie teams have registered thus far this year?
Ilovepineapples
29-09-2013, 00:34
Forgive me if this has already been covered in this thread or elsewhere, but...
Does anybody know how many rookie teams have registered thus far this year?
128 rookies I believe.
Calvin Hartley
29-09-2013, 01:19
128 rookies I believe.
Thanks!! And not that I don't believe you, but to satisfy my resource-checking mind, where are you getting that number? :o
Mark McLeod
29-09-2013, 06:59
Just count the teams 4900 and above at any particular moment in time.
Now 130 rookies (@ 7am, 9/29/13).
There are also new teams given veteran team numbers, but they aren't considered rookies by FIRST, because experienced members started the team.
So here's how Ontario is shaping up as of 10:30pm EST or so Sunday night.
73 teams registered for 2014 (We played with 73 in 2013, and 78 in 2012)
21 rookies registered for 2014 (23 in 2013, 21 in 2012)
7 teams are resurrected 2012 vets (of the 18 or so we lost in 2013)
1 team (746) is a new 2002 rookie (associated with 886).
Waterloo and GTRWest have reached initial capacity (with an additional 11 slots in reserve at Waterloo, and 6 at West if predictions are correct)
With Montreal also at initial capacity, the 32 teams from there will also be looking to Ontario (probably GTREast or North Bay) for a 2nd event.
105 teams, of which, I expect 30% to be 2 event teams, and 13.5% to be 3 event teams. About 45 teams looking for another event in round 2, plus the stragglers and travellers from elsewhere. ON/QC is currently showing a total of 79 seats open capacity (not counting held back spots)
Mark McLeod
30-09-2013, 13:55
1800 teams right now.
70% of last season's total.
MARS_James
30-09-2013, 14:19
1800 teams right now.
70% of last season's total.
Time for more fun with stats:
Thus far:
We have 136 rookies (37% of last years total rookies)
153 2nd year teams (43% Rookie Retention)
We have a total of 1664 non rookies (65% retention)
And we have 1511 Veteran Teams* (85% of the total number last year)
*Veteran Teams are teams that are on their 3rd game this shows teams that hopefully have long term success in place
pntbll1313
30-09-2013, 16:04
1800 teams right now.
70% of last season's total.
Based on Mark's quote from last year's 2013 thread on October 2nd 2012 (exactly 5 days after registration opened just like it is right now). We have over 200 more teams registered in the same 5 days!
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108565&page=5&highlight=2013+registration
More than 1600 teams now showing as registered (plus a guesstimated 40-50 hidden on waitlists). Last year only had 1307 teams showing (with a guesstimated waitlist of maybe 30 teams).
Last year's registration didn't reach 1600 until 8 days later.
Peachtree reached Initial Capacity.
More than 100 new teams.
Steven Donow
30-09-2013, 16:21
Has anyone compiled data/info on all the "new" non-rookie teams, as well as "revived" teams?
Francis-134
30-09-2013, 16:35
Time for more fun with stats:
Thus far:
We have 136 rookies (37% of last years total rookies)
153 2nd year teams (43% Rookie Retention)
We have a total of 1664 non rookies (65% retention)
And we have 1511 Veteran Teams* (85% of the total number last year)
*Veteran Teams are teams that are on their 3rd game this shows teams that hopefully have long term success in place
This is the information I am very interested in! Hope to see more rookies return from last year, because right now, that number seems rather low.
PVCpirate
30-09-2013, 17:22
Time for more fun with stats:
Thus far:
We have 136 rookies (37% of last years total rookies)
153 2nd year teams (43% Rookie Retention)
We have a total of 1664 non rookies (65% retention)
And we have 1511 Veteran Teams* (85% of the total number last year)
*Veteran Teams are teams that are on their 3rd game this shows teams that hopefully have long term success in place
Making this distinction makes sense, but I think I would push it out 1-2 more years. I only say this because often teams only last as long as their original members are still involved, which is 4 years or less.
BrendanB
30-09-2013, 17:45
Making this distinction makes sense, but I think I would push it out 1-2 more years. I only say this because often teams only last as long as their original members are still involved, which is 4 years or less.
True.
As member who went from a well established team to working with a rookie team, years 2-3.5 are/were the hardest. In our second year we could tell our rookie grants were slightly lower and in our third season we lost NASA and JCP was cut down to $1k (but we weren't expecting anything going into 2013 since we weren't rookies or a sustaining team). We did work a lot in 2011 and 2012 with lightbulbs but our market was saturated when we sold a lot and local retail stores carried them. During this past season and going into 2014 we have had to work much harder working towards becoming more financially stable. We now have moved out of our "rookie" funding and have relationships with our sponsors as well as having ways of generating money (ticket raffles, 5k, etc).
It takes a lot of work but rookie grants are both amazing and a curse! We owe a lot to our parents and business mentors for leading us through financial trouble!
ehochstein
30-09-2013, 18:37
True.
As member who went from a well established team to working with a rookie team, years 2-3.5 are/were the hardest. In our second year we could tell our rookie grants were slightly lower and in our third season we lost NASA and JCP was cut down to $1k (but we weren't expecting anything going into 2013 since we weren't rookies or a sustaining team). We did work a lot in 2011 and 2012 with lightbulbs but our market was saturated when we sold a lot and local retail stores carried them. During this past season and going into 2014 we have had to work much harder working towards becoming more financially stable. We now have moved out of our "rookie" funding and have relationships with our sponsors as well as having ways of generating money (ticket raffles, 5k, etc).
It takes a lot of work but rookie grants are both amazing and a curse! We owe a lot to our parents and business mentors for leading us through financial trouble!
I hear there is some sort of Fundraising Toolkit that FIRST is releasing soon. Hopefully that will help out with some of the funding troubles those new veteran teams run into.
MARS_James
30-09-2013, 19:24
Making this distinction makes sense, but I think I would push it out 1-2 more years. I only say this because often teams only last as long as their original members are still involved, which is 4 years or less.
Ok well in that case we had 1272 teams about to play there 5th game last year. This year we have 1095 (86% as many teams are 5 years or older)
Huh. Team 5051 Fast Eddie Community Robotics from Port Perry, ON.
Listed as a 2014 rookie. Certainly SEEMS like another revival of 1006, which used to be Port Perry High School's team "Fast Eddie Robotics", which played 2003-2009, 2011.
I'm gonna guess that at least some of the people involved are the same people. Likely has rookie status due to its apparent separation from PPHS.
S.P.A.M.er
02-10-2013, 21:17
Is it just me or has South Florida regional just been ignored by everyone this year, even by us (SPAM). All Big name Florida teams havent even registered...... I'm slightly shocked:ahh:
as of 9:15 on the 2nd of October (today) there's 30 spots left. Its teams 108 and 168.... then jumps to 1649.... then all the way to 3992.
Gary Dillard
03-10-2013, 08:11
Is it just me or has South Florida regional just been ignored by everyone this year, even by us (SPAM). All Big name Florida teams havent even registered...... I'm slightly shocked:ahh:
as of 9:15 on the 2nd of October (today) there's 30 spots left. Its teams 108 and 168.... then jumps to 1649.... then all the way to 3992.
Likely teams were registering for Orlando which must have filled up earlier last year (it's already full this year), figuring spots would be available for South Florida when 2nd regional registration opens up (and they are). We did the same thing when choosing which to register for our first regional - Smoky Mountain filled up last year (it's already full this year) while Bayou still had plenty of spots available, same as this year.
This is the information I am very interested in! Hope to see more rookies return from last year, because right now, that number seems rather low.
I'm not terribly concerned. Rookies and second-years have a tradition of not signing up the first week; several don't pop up officially until late November/December.
BrennanB
03-10-2013, 11:07
Huh. Team 5051 Fast Eddie Community Robotics from Port Perry, ON.
Listed as a 2014 rookie. Certainly SEEMS like another revival of 1006, which used to be Port Perry High School's team "Fast Eddie Robotics", which played 2003-2009, 2011.
I'm gonna guess that at least some of the people involved are the same people. Likely has rookie status due to its apparent separation from PPHS.
Yep, a previous member and FIRST volunteer mentioned to me at champs that he was thinking of reviving his old team...
Yep, a previous member and FIRST volunteer mentioned to me at champs that he was thinking of reviving his old team...
Shaun had been talking about reviving the old team.
Looks like he got it done.
Fletch1373
03-10-2013, 20:54
So, this is kinda-sorta relevant. Some of you know I've been doing this for the last couple years, and it's happened again. This thread doesn't seem to have gotten much visibility, so I'm posting it here too. Enjoy!
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118447
Mark McLeod
06-10-2013, 14:02
2025 teams are registered. Another 500 teams to go to reach (and then pass) last year's total.
We crossed the 2000 team mark 10 days ahead of last year's subscription.
13 Regionals are at (or greater than initial capacity):
Greater Toronto West (+2)
San Diego (+2)
Orlando
St. Louis (+1)
Waterloo (+2)
Montreal
Los Angeles (+1)
Boilermaker
North Star
10000 Lakes
Long Island
Smoky Mountains (+3)
Midwest (+1)Arizona is a unique case in that the initial capacity was zero and it keeps adding in teams.
Five more Regionals are in the single digits.
One District (WPI (+2)) is at initial capacity.
When does 2nd event registration open?
Mark McLeod
06-10-2013, 14:11
Noon on Oct 24 (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/calendar/)
Mark McLeod
10-10-2013, 10:48
In anticipation of noon's 2nd District event registration, here are the 1st event tally's:
MI Districts - 186
MAR Districts - 97
PNW Districts - 149
NE Districts - 144
Regionals - 1537Currently 2113 teams overall are now registered.
That compares favorably to the 1832 teams registered by this matching time last season. If that ratio continues that would meant a final team count of 2911 give or take for this season.
Interesting. I predicted about 2850 teams total this season. Be interesting to see how accurate that is.
Also: WHOA. 1285. New 2014 team, 2004 rookie, second team at 1241's school, registered at ONWA. 1241 is currently registered at ONTO2 (GTRWest).
Looks like a couple Toronto area schools are trying the double-team thing in 2014, including the reigning world champions.
Holy cows! Livonia is full at 12:01PM!
Once again, awesome speed to register for second district event today. With only district teams registering at 12noon EST, we were able to lock in our second district event (Springside/Chestnut Hill) before 12:01pm!
Thanks, FIRST IT!
Christopher149
10-10-2013, 12:28
Once again, awesome speed to register for second district event today. With only district teams registering at 12noon EST, we were able to lock in our second district event (Springside/Chestnut Hill) before 12:01pm!
Thanks, FIRST IT!
Aww, an we got waitlisted for our second district (and only 15 teams are signed up so far).
Mark McLeod
10-10-2013, 12:33
7 Districts went to initial capacity.
Several Michigan Districts got frozen where they were (Escanaba & Traverse City) or the initial cap was dropped by 4 or 5 (Kettering, Oregon City, Glacier Peak, West Michigan, Livonia).
Thad House
10-10-2013, 12:55
All PNW events dropped from 40 teams per event to 36 teams per event. That is why Oregon City filled up so quick, because there was only 2 slots open when registration opened this morning.
7 Districts went to initial capacity.
Several Michigan Districts got frozen where they were (Escanaba & Traverse City) or the initial cap was dropped by 4 or 5 (Kettering, Oregon City, Glacier Peak, West Michigan, Livonia).
Where can I see who has registered for Michigan District event? Thanks.
Calvin Hartley
10-10-2013, 13:41
Where can I see who has registered for Michigan District event? Thanks.
District events are listed with the regionals here. (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/regional-events) The easiest way to find one is just ctrl+F (or command+F) and search for the event. Click on the event, then on "What teams are registered for this event?" It'll lead to a list of teams.
Christopher149
10-10-2013, 14:17
District events are listed with the regionals here. (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/regional-events) The easiest way to find one is just ctrl+F (or command+F) and search for the event. Click on the event, then on "What teams are registered for this event?" It'll lead to a list of teams.
Alternatively, if you want, http://frclinks.frclinks.com/ is very useful. For example, http://frclinks.frclinks.com/e/MILIV/2014 shows all teams signed up for 2014 for Livonia. The main page lists the codes for each event (all Michigan events have a 'mi' prefix).
Thank you...was just bummed to find out our team was in wait list at 12:01PM!
5079
Team Name: Lahore Grammar School Defence
Team Location: Lahore, PB Pakistan
This looks like the first FRC team from Pakistan (http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/teams?ProgramCode=FRC&Season=2014&Country=Pakistan&ZipCode=&Radius=&op=Search&form_build_id=form-f6ifpzXBB5ibzyVg8FST-J7KHGDqHzGAdInJJZQJOyA&form_id=first_search_teams_form). They're registered for the Alamo Regional (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=team_details&tpid=225393&-session=myarea:0A7D788718a9534788RqiLTACE9A). Does anyone know more about this team?
Akash Rastogi
10-10-2013, 22:39
This looks like the first FRC team from Pakistan (http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/teams?ProgramCode=FRC&Season=2014&Country=Pakistan&ZipCode=&Radius=&op=Search&form_build_id=form-f6ifpzXBB5ibzyVg8FST-J7KHGDqHzGAdInJJZQJOyA&form_id=first_search_teams_form). They're registered for the Alamo Regional (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=team_details&tpid=225393&-session=myarea:0A7D788718a9534788RqiLTACE9A). Does anyone know more about this team?
This is extremely cool! I've always wanted FRC to start up in South-Asia.
Christopher149
10-10-2013, 23:03
And it looks from their website that they're an all-girls school. I hope FIRST can get more teams into these parts of the world that FIRST hasn't been before.
Anupam Goli
11-10-2013, 11:27
This looks like the first FRC team from Pakistan (http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/teams?ProgramCode=FRC&Season=2014&Country=Pakistan&ZipCode=&Radius=&op=Search&form_build_id=form-f6ifpzXBB5ibzyVg8FST-J7KHGDqHzGAdInJJZQJOyA&form_id=first_search_teams_form). They're registered for the Alamo Regional (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=team_details&tpid=225393&-session=myarea:0A7D788718a9534788RqiLTACE9A). Does anyone know more about this team?
Woah, that's really interesting! This has the potential to bring about a huge advancement in the region!
This looks like the first FRC team from Pakistan (http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/teams?ProgramCode=FRC&Season=2014&Country=Pakistan&ZipCode=&Radius=&op=Search&form_build_id=form-f6ifpzXBB5ibzyVg8FST-J7KHGDqHzGAdInJJZQJOyA&form_id=first_search_teams_form). They're registered for the Alamo Regional (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=team_details&tpid=225393&-session=myarea:0A7D788718a9534788RqiLTACE9A). Does anyone know more about this team?
Geographically speaking, the Israel Regional would be way closer for them, but we all know why they're not going there...
wilsonmw04
11-10-2013, 14:33
Geographically speaking, the Israel Regional would be way closer for them, but we all know why they're not going there...
oh, we do? please explain. How could everyone know why any team is going to any regional?
BrendanB
11-10-2013, 14:36
oh, we do? please explain. How could everyone know why any team is going to any regional?
I believe he was referring to political/religious reasons.
Anupam Goli
11-10-2013, 14:37
oh, we do? please explain. How could everyone know why any team is going to any regional?
I'm not sure what international affairs are really like, but I imagine it's not very easy to get a visa from Pakistan to Israel, and I'm not sure there's even an Israeli embassy in Pakistan.
EDIT. i'm tempted to say it's more political than religious, but that's just my gut feeling.
I was indeed referring to the fact that Israel and Pakistan have been at war over the Gaza Strip for extended periods of time. Seems to me it would be foolish for an educational institution of any sort to bring its students to a country it is at war with.
Additionally,
Pakistan forbids its citizens from going to Israel, and all Pakistani passports bear the inscription "This passport is valid for all countries of the World except Israel."
MARS_James
11-10-2013, 16:07
I was indeed referring to the fact that Israel and Pakistan have been at war over the Gaza Strip for extended periods of time. Seems to me it would be foolish for an educational institution of any sort to bring its students to a country it is at war with.
Additionally,
Pakistan and Palestine are not the same place.........
Pakistan and Palestine are not the same place.........And by "not the same place", we mean that Islamabad is almost as far from Ramallah as Los Angeles is from New York City, and the first isn't at war. On the other hand, Pakistani passports are not valid for travel to Israel. On the other-other hand, air travel prices are finicky things (for instance, it's not like San Antonio is the closest US regional). I'm sorry I won't see them in New York, but I'm sure our Texan friends will have a warm welcome in store! I still can't fathom how organizations like this work as the only/one of the few team(s) in their country. More power to you all.
BBray_T1296
11-10-2013, 16:43
Maybe they just like the Alamo? It is cool you know...
Christopher149
11-10-2013, 16:48
Pakistan may not be Palestine, but Israel–Pakistan relations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Pakistan_relations) aren't that convivial.
Pakistan and Palestine are not the same place.........
That... Is true. Whoops. Mixed up my middle eastern P countries.
That said, I did know Israel-Pakistan wasn't a great relationship either.
It's great that there are new teams in Pakistan and the UAE. I'm looking forward to seeing new countries join FRC.
Does anyone know why there isn't better FRC penetration into Europe? It seems like a major, untapped continent with very few teams (6 according to WITWIF and 3 registered).
Akash Rastogi
12-10-2013, 01:34
Does anyone know why there isn't better FRC penetration into Europe? It seems like a major, untapped continent with very few teams (6 according to WITWIF and 3 registered).
Not too sure, to be honest. I always thought we would see more teams in the UK pop up, but that never really happened either.
It would be a good question for Frank Answers Fridays!
PVCpirate
12-10-2013, 17:57
This is speculation, but my guess would be the lack of a strong team who makes a point to get more teams from their area. Down in Australia, team 3132 has helped out rookies, and through their offseason event allows teams without the resources to go to a regional to build a bot and compete. Without a team like this or other strong support, it's hard to grow the program in a place so far from the nearest regional.
Abhishek R
12-10-2013, 18:38
Regardless, I don't think we need to debate why they're not going to Israel for reasons we pulled out of the clouds. But it's cool that teams are springing up more and more worldwide. Should be a great season!
Akash Rastogi
12-10-2013, 18:49
Noticed quite a bit of Canadian teams are playing outside of Canada this year, particularly at Palmetto. I thought many would stay due to the increase in Canadian events. Guess they're all trying to play outside before districts hit!
Noticed quite a bit of Canadian teams are playing outside of Canada this year, particularly at Palmetto. I thought many would stay due to the increase in Canadian events. Guess they're all trying to play outside before districts hit!
I was surprised by this too. With two new Ontario regionals, I didn't think teams would be travelling nearly as much. Quite a few Ontario teams travel to get away from 1114 and 2056 (unfortunate, but true nonetheless), but with 5 regionals this year they can't win all of them!
Anupam Goli
13-10-2013, 00:15
Noticed quite a bit of Canadian teams are playing outside of Canada this year, particularly at Palmetto. I thought many would stay due to the increase in Canadian events. Guess they're all trying to play outside before districts hit!
Ahh yes, with the conversion to districts happening rapidly throughout the contiguous US, The northern teams have found out about the sunny towns and warm air of the south and are plotting their invasion....
I can't wait to go to Palmetto (hopefully) and play with our friends from up north. Palmetto will definitely be fun.
I was surprised by this too. With two new Ontario regionals, I didn't think teams would be travelling nearly as much. Quite a few Ontario teams travel to get away from 1114 and 2056 (unfortunate, but true nonetheless), but with 5 regionals this year they can't win all of them!
Its especially interesting that 2/4 of the Canadians that are registered at Palmetto are rookies...
Navid Shafa
15-10-2013, 22:03
but with 5 regionals this year they can't win all of them!
Perhaps not together, but feasibly they could have won two a piece and added the overlapping 5th regional win together. ;)
Perhaps not together, but feasibly they could have won two a piece and added the overlapping 5th regional win together. ;)
1114 mentioned they cannot go to GTRW.
Also, I can't see 2056 getting into GTRW that easily; it's been full for a while and they'll be down on the waitlist for too long for it to be feasible for them to try to get in when there are three other perfectly good regionals they could attend in Canada.
Mark McLeod
16-10-2013, 11:14
Currently at 2231 registered teams, 208 rookies, here are the countries heard from so far:
- (1) Germany
- (1) Netherlands
- (1) Pakistan
- (1) Singapore
- (1) Taiwan
- (1) United Arab Emirates
- (1) United Kingdom
- (2) Dominican Republic
- (3) Chile
- (6) Australia
- (6) Brazil
- (6) Turkey
- (21) Israel
- (22) Mexico
- (141) Canada
- (2017) USA
The breakdown into Districts/Regionals:
- (101) MAR District 4-DE, 61-NJ, 36-PA
- (149) NE District 44-CT, 14-ME, 54-MA, 31-NH, 4-RI, 2-VT
- (150) PNW District 109-WA, 41-OR
- (213) MI District
- (1621) Regionals
And the finer breakout by state/country:
Count State/Country
1 ------ AK
1 ------ Germany
1 ------ MT
1 ------ Netherlands
1 ------ Pakistan
1 ------ SD
1 ------ Singapore
1 ------ Taiwan
1 ------ United Arab Emirates
1 ------ United Kingdom
2 ------ Dominican Republic
2 ------ ND
2 ------ PR
2 ------ VT
2 ------ WY
3 ------ Chile
4 ------ DE
4 ------ NM
4 ------ RI
4 ------ WV
6 ------ Australia
6 ------ Brazil
6 ------ IA
6 ------ Turkey
7 ------ NV
8 ------ MS
9 ------ AL
9 ------ KY
11 ----- AR
11 ----- ID
11 ----- UT
12 ----- Canada-AB
14 ----- DC
14 ----- ME
17 ----- KS
21 ----- Israel
21 ----- LA
22 ----- Mexico
24 ----- HI
29 ----- CO
31 ----- MD
31 ----- NH
33 ----- NC
34 ----- Canada-QC
34 ----- SC
37 ----- TN
37 ----- WI
41 ----- OR
44 ----- CT
45 ----- OK
46 ----- AZ
46 ----- GA
46 ----- OH
49 ----- IN
51 ----- FL
52 ----- IL
52 ----- MO
54 ----- MA
61 ----- NJ
63 ----- VA
65 ----- PA
83 ----- TX
95 ----- Canada-ON
109 ---- WA
124 ---- NY
144 ---- MN
205 ---- CA
213 ---- MI
1114 mentioned they cannot go to GTRW.
Also, I can't see 2056 getting into GTRW that easily; it's been full for a while and they'll be down on the waitlist for too long for it to be feasible for them to try to get in when there are three other perfectly good regionals they could attend in Canada.
I suspect 2056 does not plan to attend GTRW.
I would expect both 1114 and 2056 to register at GTRE as their 2nd registration, and probably Windsor as their third.
It means that for the first time since 2007, there will be a regional in Canada that doesn't have one or both of 1114 and 2056 as the favourite to win.
Don't expect GTRW to be a cakewalk for whoever wins it though. With 188, 610, 772, 907, 1241, (possibly 1285 too), 1310, 2852, 4001, 4343 and more in attendance, its going to be a tight race at the top of the field, being a Week 1 regional with no powerhouse that's traditionally disproportionately strong. All of the mentioned teams are frequently at the top of the field beyond 1114 and 2056. They're all fairly equal too.
In 2013, for the most part, 1114 and 2056 had OPR's around 100, 610 was around 60-70, and the rest of the mentioned teams (except 907) down around 40-50. 2013 was an off year for 907.
Can't wait to see how it goes down. I hope the 2014 game continues the recent trend of the game getting better and better each year.
Calvin Hartley
16-10-2013, 11:53
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that Michigan now has more teams than California, putting Michigan as the state with most teams. Not that it really matters, but since I'm from Michigan I somehow feel accomplished in this fact. :o
It means that for the first time since 2007, there will be a regional in Canada that doesn't have one or both of 1114 and 2056 as the favourite to win.
Can't wait to see how it goes down. I hope the 2014 game continues the recent trend of the game getting better and better each year.
I think you mean Ontario rather than Canada. As you probably know there were regionals in Calgary and Montreal, that neither 2056 or 1114 attended since the regional down in Montreal started back in 2012. With that said, it should be a very exciting season in 2014. With the amount of Canadian teams that have stepped up this year, I wouldn't consider any regional an easy one for any team. It will be exciting to see more Canadian teams down in St. Louis for the 2014 championship! Can't wait till kickoff!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that Michigan now has more teams than California, putting Michigan as the state with most teams. Not that it really matters, but since I'm from Michigan I somehow feel accomplished in this fact. :o
Challenge accepted.
George C
16-10-2013, 15:59
Its especially interesting that 2/4 of the Canadians that are registered at Palmetto are rookies...
All four of those teams are from schools in the Halton District School Board and are travelling together.
Gary Dillard
17-10-2013, 08:51
Hey Mark, maybe you've covered this somewhere (I searched but didn't find it), but is there any tracking of rookie teams that have registered but not signed up for a regional? I guess they don't get a team number until they do? If I search for teams in Alabama I find 2 new rookie teams registered (8 digit team number 2014XXXX).
btw, there are 28 teams in CA with 8 digit numbers, 8 in Michigan so I think they'll be jumping ahead.
I think you mean Ontario rather than Canada. As you probably know there were regionals in Calgary and Montreal, that neither 2056 or 1114 attended since the regional down in Montreal started back in 2012. With that said, it should be a very exciting season in 2014. With the amount of Canadian teams that have stepped up this year, I wouldn't consider any regional an easy one for any team. It will be exciting to see more Canadian teams down in St. Louis for the 2014 championship! Can't wait till kickoff!
You are correct, I did, in fact mean Ontario.
Living here, and knowing that the GTA is sort of the hub of FIRST activity in Canada it is sometimes easy to forget about the other 2 regionals.
Hey Mark, maybe you've covered this somewhere (I searched but didn't find it), but is there any tracking of rookie teams that have registered but not signed up for a regional? I guess they don't get a team number until they do? If I search for teams in Alabama I find 2 new rookie teams registered (8 digit team number 2014XXXX).
btw, there are 28 teams in CA with 8 digit numbers, 8 in Michigan so I think they'll be jumping ahead.
Regional Directors and Senior Mentors have access to rookie teams that have not completed registration (still have temp 8 digit team numbers), you could always ask them for the information. Right now, the 2 you saw in Alabama are it.
The permanent team number is assigned when they complete registration. Usually that happens when they sign up for their first regional because they are required to complete registration before they can sign up.
Looking at Canada's current registration numbers, I'm a bit surprised.
As of right now, for 2014, we have:
34 New Teams
53 Teams continuing from 2013 out of 73 that competed in 2013.
10 Teams resurrected from 2012.
A total of 97 Teams.
Teams still missing:
From 2013:
1846
2625
2702
3396
3560
3705
4015
4200
4252
4372
4618
4659
4678
4688
4699 - Were registered at GTREast in 2013, but didn't show up.
4727
4777
4806
4807
4808
From 2012:
843 - Competed 2002-2012. 2 events per season each season from 2004.
1009 - Competed 2003-2006, 2011-2012, 1 event per season (always at Hershey Center).
1053 - Competed 2003-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center)
1221 - Competed 2003-2008, 2010-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center), except 2012, when they also played at GTREast.
1514 - Competed 2005-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center), except 2012, when they also played at Waterloo
1535 - Split from 1596 in 2007, multiple events per year from 2007-2012.
1605 - Competed 2005-2010, 2012, usually 2 events per year.
1835 - Competed 2006-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center)
2076 - Competed 2007-2009, 2011-2012, 2 events in 2008/2009.
3739
4022
4094
4236
4249
4258
4307
4357
4367
Allison K
18-10-2013, 13:31
Michigan stats so far...
2013: 203 Team total
2014: 217 Teams total thus far, including...
32 Rookies
1 Resurrected Veteran
1 New Veteran
20 Teams missing that were active in 2013 - 519, 1941, 2000, 2137, 2851, 3421, 3640, 3706, 4294, 4389, 4478, 4507, 4743, 4755, 4811, 4834, 4838, 4839, 4840, 4855. I expect a few of those will pop up as wait lists get sorted out and whatnot.
_____________________________________
Edited to add California stats, because I guess we have a rivalry or something.
2013: 212 Teams total
2014: 208 Teams total thus far, including...
21 Rookies
3 Resurrected or New Veterans (not sure the breakdown)
28 Teams missing that were active in 2013
AdamHeard
18-10-2013, 13:43
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that Michigan now has more teams than California, putting Michigan as the state with most teams. Not that it really matters, but since I'm from Michigan I somehow feel accomplished in this fact. :o
Lets see where the numbers lie at kickoff/regionals. That's when it counts!
Calvin Hartley
18-10-2013, 13:54
Lets see where the numbers lie at kickoff/regionals. That's when it counts!
Indeed! I look forward to finding out. I would also be intirested in seeing numbers on growth in both states. I can't hep but be competitive about it... :D
Banderoonies
18-10-2013, 14:37
[QUOTE=Racer26;1293128]Reasons CMP needs more capacity than 400.
Adding more divisions. Going to 6 or 8 divisions adds time to Einstein, which is already much longer than it should be. BUT, doing this might make Einstein feel less tedious. The downside is that you need 50-100% MORE volunteers than CMP already needs. Additionally, the space required for the fields to run 8 separate divisions starts to get really hard to find, and noise pollution from adjacent fields could be a problem as well.
I think it would be a cool idea to have a 5th division exclusively for Rookies. It could be fore first and second year teams. Rookie teams can choose to compete in either regular or rookie division. This will add additional spots while at the same time crowing "FRC Rookie Champions".
Nathan Streeter
18-10-2013, 15:20
Don't expect GTRW to be a cakewalk for whoever wins it though. With 188, 610, 772, 907, 1241, (possibly 1285 too), 1310, 2852, 4001, 4343 and more in attendance, its going to be a tight race at the top of the field, being a Week 1 regional with no powerhouse that's traditionally disproportionately strong.
Does sound like a strong top tier despite not having 1114 or 2056! It'll be interesting to see who's strong coming out of the gate there in Week 1... Competing with/against 610 down at GSR week 1 in 2013, they launched out of the starting gate... having clearly succeeded in leaving substantial tune/practice time!
Forgive me for being oblivious... but does this mean 188's back?!
Forgive me for being oblivious... but does this mean 188's back?!
They are most definitely back!
Mark McLeod
21-10-2013, 14:18
2300 teams are now registered.
That's almost 11% above last year at this same time.
Not quite as good as the 19% that last year had over the year before.
2300 teams are now registered.
That's almost 11% above last year at this same time.
Not quite as good as the 19% that last year had over the year before.
Is there a legend for the vertical lines? Are they are first regional/second regional/championship deadlines?
Mark McLeod
21-10-2013, 18:57
Is there a legend for the vertical lines? Are they are first regional/second regional/championship deadlines?
They are the various deadlines (2nd District/2nd Regional/Unrestricted/Kickoff), but I forgot to check and adjust them for this year.
I won't be able to verify and correct them until tomorrow morning, but I'll post a corrected version and/or a note when I do.
Central Illinois Regional was full to initial capacity at 12:02 EST. It started with 12 open spots. We're lucky I was in at 12:01. Honestly, this process should be looked at so that it's not quite so dependent on who has the luckier internet connection.
Mark McLeod
24-10-2013, 12:07
Same thing happened for quite a few (13) Regionals.
We got into Troy, but it was full when I looked at 12:03.
314 teams show as registering in the few minutes after noon.
I'm sure that many more went to waitlist.
Same thing happened for quite a few Regionals.
We got into Troy, but it was full when I looked at 12:03.
I have three teams from DC now on the waitlist at Troy.
Mark, you do have an easy way to make a list now of full regionals and remaining capacity? It's a real slog to go through the events in my area page looking for space.
Well it only took about 5 minutes for Palmetto to fill its 22 open slots.
ebmonon36
24-10-2013, 12:13
Crossroads was full when I tried to register at 12:05 although there were only 6 open spots when I looked last week.
Crossroads was full when I tried to register at 12:05 although there were only 6 open spots when I looked last week.
Started with 5 and filled up in two minutes.
Qbot2640
24-10-2013, 12:20
Central Illinois Regional was full to initial capacity at 12:02 EST. It started with 12 open spots. We're lucky I was in at 12:01. Honestly, this process should be looked at so that it's not quite so dependent on who has the luckier internet connection.
AMEN...This is not criticism - per se - because I do think that FIRST does an awesome job dealing with the volume of requests, but with the average team wishing to attend two regionals, and the fact that many were full before today, it becomes very difficult to create an economical logistic travel plan under the current constraints. Not sure what the answer is, but I'm sure the combined brainpower can come up with some improvements.
Anupam Goli
24-10-2013, 12:21
Well it only took about 5 minutes for Palmetto to fill its 22 open slots.
3 minutes, I was on at 12:03 and it was full. Looks like there are a lot of teams from different states/countries coming. How diverse.
Finger Lakes is full now too; 37 New York teams, 2 Florida teams, and 1 Canada team.
Inland Empire filled up in just a couple of minutes.
Snapshot of open spots at 1230
Week 1
Alamo - 8
Week 2
Arkansas - 14
Northern Lights - 22
Hub City - 40!
Central Valley - 1
Week 3
Mexico City - 19
Dallas - 1
Utah - 11
Week 4
Buckeye - 20
Wisconsin - 6
Week 5
North Bay - 7
Queen City - 19
Oklahoma - 3
Pittsburgh - 6
Week 6
Western Canada - 11
Windsor Essex Great Lakes - 18
Colorado - 5
South Florida - 15
Bayou - 10
Las Vegas - 16
Lone Star - 35
Wetzel
HumblePie
24-10-2013, 12:42
Well it only took about 5 minutes for Palmetto to fill its 22 open slots.
Actually, less than that. We were waitlisted at 12:02.
PayneTrain
24-10-2013, 12:50
I'm pretty sure this same problem happened in the Southeast last year, resulting in a bunch of 64+ team events. TO remedy the bunching up from last year, two of the events are in a smaller venue, there are more teams, there are more teams that can afford two regionals, and there are no new events.
Caleb Sykes
24-10-2013, 12:51
Interesting that Lake Superior filled so quickly relative to Northern Lights. Teams must be scared of 359:ahh: .
JohnSchneider
24-10-2013, 12:59
Snapshot of open spots at 1230
Lone Star - 35
Most of those teams register for their second and tertiary regionals before signing up for houston. Yeah we see you all signed up for Dallas ;)
AMEN...This is not criticism - per se - because I do think that FIRST does an awesome job dealing with the volume of requests, but with the average team wishing to attend two regionals, and the fact that many were full before today, it becomes very difficult to create an economical logistic travel plan under the current constraints. Not sure what the answer is, but I'm sure the combined brainpower can come up with some improvements.
Agreed, I also don't want to criticize FIRST, where the people are doing a really great job.
I think it would be best if the online system accepted a round of bids with our top 3 or so choices. That would, of course, require a bunch of work to setup, and then somehow the bids would have to get translated into who actually gets into the events. That algorithm would get scrutinized and criticized, because some tough choices would need to be made about who gets the limited number of spots in crowded events. And it would require 2-3 rounds of bids. I can see why they aren't doing it that way given the work and the difficulties that would be involved. But it would be better if done well.
wilsonmw04
24-10-2013, 13:09
Chesapeake was full at 12:05. wait listed
Jonathan Norris
24-10-2013, 13:16
I'm personally looking forward to Districts in Ontario next year, and specifically the Provincial Championship (if thats the plan...).
Its going to be odd not competing with/against 1114 and 2056 at the Regional level this year, seeing two of the best teams in the world at every Ontario regional is always inspiring to me. If only they could attend every Ontario regional :P
But on the flip-side, the regionals without one of 1114/2056 are going to be fascinating in exposing the great depth of talented teams in Ontario. I expect winners of GTRW and North Bay are going to come from lower seeded alliances that put together very complimentary alliances.
Kellen Hill
24-10-2013, 13:19
Anyone have a good idea of how many total teams Palmetto will be taking this year?
54 teams are registered. It looks like 68 teams attended last year from what I can find. Just wondering about our chances of getting in off of the wait list.
Anyone have a good idea of how many total teams Palmetto will be taking this year?
54 teams are registered. It looks like 68 teams attended last year from what I can find. Just wondering about our chances of getting in off of the wait list.
10 is the standard waitlist size. I'd normally assume that if you got on the waitlist right as it filled up you would be good, but it gets harder each year.
Abhishek R
24-10-2013, 13:25
Most of those teams register for their second and tertiary regionals before signing up for houston. Yeah we see you all signed up for Dallas ;)
Wow, Dallas is pretty stacked. And yeah, not surprised at the Lone Star slots, they'll fill up when the third pick comes around.
Although I'm slightly worried that Lone Star may be a bit smaller this year.
DarrinMunter
24-10-2013, 13:48
Wisconsin Regional is now full. I see that a lot of other central Illinois teams are making their way up there after our new Central Illinois Regional.
Jscout11
24-10-2013, 14:45
All you guys and your regional registrations ;)
Ontario Teams still missing:
From 2013:
1846
2625
2702 - Somehow got into ONWA
3396
3560 - Somehow got into ONTO2
3705
4015
4200
4252 - Appeared at ONTO
4372
4618 - Appeared at ONTO
4659
4678 - Appeared at ONWA and ONWI
4688
4699 - Were registered at GTREast in 2013, but didn't show up.
4727 - Appeared at ONTO
4777 - Somehow got into ONWA
4806
4807
4808
From 2012:
843 - Competed 2002-2012. 2 events per season each season from 2004.
1009 - Competed 2003-2006, 2011-2012, 1 event per season (always at Hershey Center).
1053 - Competed 2003-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center)
1221 - Competed 2003-2008, 2010-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center), except 2012, when they also played at GTREast.
1514 - Competed 2005-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center), except 2012, when they also played at Waterloo
1535 - Split from 1596 in 2007, multiple events per year from 2007-2012.
1605 - Competed 2005-2010, 2012, usually 2 events per year.
1835 - Competed 2006-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center)
2076 - Competed 2007-2009, 2011-2012, 2 events in 2008/2009.
3739
4022
4094
4236
4249
4258
4307
4357
4367
Akash Rastogi
24-10-2013, 16:08
Hawaii is looking really cool. Teams from Taiwan, Australia, and China will be attending!
MrTechCenter
24-10-2013, 16:24
This may seem like a dumb question, but, is there any way of knowing where your team is on the Championship Waitlist? It says we're on it but where?
bbradf44
24-10-2013, 16:27
Is Peachtree full? We're taking forever to register for some reason... not looking good
This may seem like a dumb question, but, is there any way of knowing where your team is on the Championship Waitlist? It says we're on it but where?
In the past this has not been possible to see this...given the number of teams getting in from the waitlist decreases each year, it's definitely a matter of luck if you happened to be one of the first few to sign up.
Is Peachtree full? We're taking forever to register for some reason... not looking good
Peachtree is full.
waialua359
24-10-2013, 16:44
Hawaii is looking really cool. Teams from Taiwan, Australia, and China will be attending!
It sure is.
I hope we get in from the waitlist after signing up for it as our 3rd regional. ;)
This may seem like a dumb question, but, is there any way of knowing where your team is on the Championship Waitlist? It says we're on it but where?
FIRST does not publish the waitlist for any event. The reason is that teams are not taken in order from the list. Any of a large number of factors might determine which teams are given an opportunity to attend any regional or the Championship (who your sponsors are, how long it has been since you attended, specific team makeup, special events at any particular regional or the Champs, are you a local team, etc.). Of course one of those factors is when you joined the list, but is certainly not the only one.
- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox
FIRST does not publish the waitlist for any event. The reason is that teams are not taken in order from the list. Any of a large number of factors might determine which teams are given an opportunity to attend any regional or the Championship (who your sponsors are, how long it has been since you attended, specific team makeup, special events at any particular regional or the Champs, are you a local team, etc.). Of course one of those factors is when you joined the list, but is certainly not the only one.
- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox
I'd heard stuff like this before, but wasn't really sure. Thanks for clarifying.
FIRST does not publish the waitlist for any event. The reason is that teams are not taken in order from the list. Any of a large number of factors might determine which teams are given an opportunity to attend any regional or the Championship (who your sponsors are, how long it has been since you attended, specific team makeup, special events at any particular regional or the Champs, are you a local team, etc.). Of course one of those factors is when you joined the list, but is certainly not the only one.
- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox
Do you have a source for this, or is it a (probably pretty good) assumption?
Travis Hoffman
24-10-2013, 17:52
Wisconsin Regional is now full. I see that a lot of other central Illinois teams are making their way up there after our new Central Illinois Regional.
Save some room for us on the waitlist in a few weeks. :)
thefro526
24-10-2013, 18:55
FIRST does not publish the waitlist for any event. The reason is that teams are not taken in order from the list. Any of a large number of factors might determine which teams are given an opportunity to attend any regional or the Championship (who your sponsors are, how long it has been since you attended, specific team makeup, special events at any particular regional or the Champs, are you a local team, etc.). Of course one of those factors is when you joined the list, but is certainly not the only one.
- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox
Do you have a source for this, or is it a (probably pretty good) assumption?
I can't confirm this with any concrete evidence, but from past experiences* with my former team, I'm fairly confident that Mr. Van is correct.
It's no secret that events will 'hide' spots for a variety of reasons, one of the most common of them being that they're reserving space for any potential rookie teams that may start up in mid-late fall. At one point or another (not sure when exactly) these spots will be opened up, and assigned to teams on the waitlist based on different factors - the most common factor seems to be location, a local team usually seems to get in over one that's not. I've heard of the others that Mr. Van listed above coming into play as well, especially at the Championship.
*In 2009, 2010 and 2011 we were wait-listed when trying to register for the Championship through the open Registration Process. If I remember correctly, we weren't taken off the waitlist in either year until the later half of build, even though one of the teams advisers called just about everyday to ask about our status. When we finally did get in, one of the reasons cited was that we had the money ready to send to HQ to cover our registration. In 2011, we weren't able to get in, even after spending most of the season on the waitlist with money in hand - which we speculated was due to the fact that we had been to the Championship something like 8 times in the previous 9 years.
FIRST does not publish the waitlist for any event. The reason is that teams are not taken in order from the list. Any of a large number of factors might determine which teams are given an opportunity to attend any regional or the Championship (who your sponsors are, how long it has been since you attended, specific team makeup, special events at any particular regional or the Champs, are you a local team, etc.). Of course one of those factors is when you joined the list, but is certainly not the only one.
Do you have a source for this, or is it a (probably pretty good) assumption?
I do have some direct experience in this situation. I'm not saying that any of the reasons for selecting teams are good or bad. It is just the way the system works. What seems perhaps "unfair" to one team is "fair" to another. I believe that FIRST works for the overall good of the program, which in turn benefits all of the participants.
Regarding ideas on how to improve the registration process to avoid the "fastest fingers/internet" wins we currently have, how about this:
What if first regional registration had a longer period for teams to apply for admission to their regional of choice (perhaps a week) and then a lottery was held for the guaranteed spaces. Then all remaining teams are in the wait-list pool (in a random order?). Notices go out to coaches indicating their acceptance or wait-list status and they can switch to open regionals or stay and take their chances. Process repeats for 2nd regional registration. Open regional registration stays the same.
Would that help/be more "fair"?
BTW, this was year was the easiest registration process I've ever been through! THANK YOU FIRST!
See you at Inland Empire and Sacramento!
- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox
Some waitlists are 20+ teams deep, interesting challenges in getting more than 8 rounds for our students and robot.
Can the National Capital Region move to districts already?
Wetzel
Qbot2640
25-10-2013, 13:59
Some waitlists are 20+ teams deep, interesting challenges in getting more than 8 rounds for our students and robot.
Can the National Capital Region move to districts already?
Wetzel
I'm starting to really see the advantage of the district system...I second your request for North Carolina - and whoever wants to play with us!
Some waitlists are 20+ teams deep, interesting challenges in getting more than 8 rounds for our students and robot.
How do you find out how many teams or on a waitlist? Is it possible just from the What Events And Teams Are In My Area? (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=searchform) page?
Alan Anderson
25-10-2013, 14:38
How do you find out how many teams or on a waitlist?
You can usually make a good guess based on how many teams attended an event in prior years. You do need to verify that the venue and layout will be the same, of course.
Alpha Beta
25-10-2013, 14:54
How do you find out how many teams or on a waitlist? Is it possible just from the What Events And Teams Are In My Area? (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=searchform) page?
You can usually make a good guess based on how many teams attended an event in prior years. You do need to verify that the venue and layout will be the same, of course.
You could estimate how many teams might get into the event from the wait list using that kind of logic, but how would that tell you how many total teams are on the list vying for those spots? The only way I know of is to call the regional director.
The only way I know of is to call the regional director.
Basically this.
Some waitlists are 20+ teams deep, interesting challenges in getting more than 8 rounds for our students and robot.
Can the National Capital Region move to districts already?
Wetzel
I'm starting to really see the advantage of the district system...I second your request for North Carolina - and whoever wants to play with us!
You better double check those numbers. Yes there are some events with 20+ team wait lists, 2 to be exact. One of those is a traditional regional, New York Tech Valley, but the other is the FiM Livoniva district event.
How many teams that are on the wait list does not mean how many teams will have spots at those events. Every regional has a maximum number of spots, but in some instances they will increase that number IF the location can handle the pit space for those extra teams. In rare instances there have been a few cases where 1 or 2 teams above the predetermined limit have been allowed.
There are typically 10 reserved spots at traditional regionals, FiM and NE district events while MAR and PNW generally have 5 reserved spots.
The main reason for those reserved spots is for rookies that register late in the season. They are first in line for those reserved spots. The next priority is for teams that do not have a confirmed spot for their first event. In the case of the district system the next priority would be teams that do not have a confirmed second event over third events. Beyond those priorities there is some discretion given to the Regional director but typically the spaces are offered in the order the remaining teams joined the list.
To find the contact info for your Regional Director and Senior Mentor, if your area has one you can go here: http://www.usfirst.org/regional-contacts Note if you are in a district select the state to be able to see if there is a Senior Mentor for your area. I would recommend the Senior Mentor as your first point of contact as our focus is assisting teams and answering their questions.
You better double check those numbers. Yes there are some events with 20+ team wait lists, 2 to be exact. One of those is a traditional regional, New York Tech Valley, but the other is the FiM Livoniva district event.
Are you sure Tech Valley really has a 20+ team waitlist. Going into 2nd registration, it still had almost half of its spots left. I'm not surprised it was a popular 2nd choice, but that still seems kind of crazy to me.
Are you sure Tech Valley really has a 20+ team waitlist. Going into 2nd registration, it still had almost half of its spots left. I'm not surprised it was a popular 2nd choice, but that still seems kind of crazy to me.
Yes I'm sure of that, and yes you are correct that there were still a large number of spaces that were still available when second event registration opened.
DampRobot
26-10-2013, 01:45
Registered for SVR. Waitlisted at Davis. Darn.
Some waitlists are 20+ teams deep, interesting challenges in getting more than 8 rounds for our students and robot.
Can the National Capital Region move to districts already?
Wetzel
Can you believe there are tons of mentors in the area who want to delay this region's districts to 2016?
We're on the waitlist for Chesapeake - we wanted North Carolina or Palmetto since we haven't been to either, but both were totally full at 12:08 when we were able to get on for round 2. I was hoping to be able to get to see some old friends who now mentor teams attending Palmetto.
Thankfully 2014 is the last year the teams around here have to deal with the race to a 2nd regional. Yet even with that good decision for next year, it's undermined by the fact that FIRST put the Philly FTC Super Regional on the SAME GD DAYS as the DC regional. If FIRST ever wanted to send a message about what teams should prioritize, that would be one. We have some tough decisions to make in the coming weeks, and other FRC events being jam-packed doesn't help at all.
PayneTrain
26-10-2013, 09:15
Can you believe there are tons of mentors in the area who want to delay this region's districts to 2016?
You mean you don't like scrambling for the chance to pay $9000 for 16 matches instead of being guaranteed $5000 for 24? Are you some crazy person?
*cries*
*shakes fist*
*emails regional directors again*
Current open spots, as of 0920, 26 Oct 13.
Week 1
Alamo - 3
Week 2
Northern Lights (MN) - 8
Hub City (Lubbox, TX)- 36
Week 3
Mexico City - 19
Week 4
Buckeye (Cleveland)- 12
Week 5
Queen City - 12
Pittsburgh - 3
Week 6
Western Canada - 9
Windsor Essex Great Lakes - 16
South Florida (Ft Lauderdale) - 3
Lone Star - 23
Can you believe there are tons of mentors in the area who want to delay this region's districts to 2016?
We're on the waitlist for Chesapeake - we wanted North Carolina or Palmetto since we haven't been to either, but both were totally full at 12:08 when we were able to get on for round 2. I was hoping to be able to get to see some old friends who now mentor teams attending Palmetto.
Thankfully 2014 is the last year the teams around here have to deal with the race to a 2nd regional. Yet even with that good decision for next year, it's undermined by the fact that FIRST put the Philly FTC Super Regional on the SAME GD DAYS as the DC regional. If FIRST ever wanted to send a message about what teams should prioritize, that would be one. We have some tough decisions to make in the coming weeks, and other FRC events being jam-packed doesn't help at all.
While there are many benefits to the district system and I am glad that my area is going to be participating in such a system this season avoiding the race to the second registration is not one of the advantages of the system. Just look at the wait lists in FiM. You may get a break in that the first year or two, particularly if the growth rate is stagnant in the district.
As far as "FIRST" putting the FTC super regional on the same weekend as a FRC event I think you are blaming the wrong entity. Fact is for the most part FTC is run separately from FRC. Area FTC program managers are often not in contact with the RDs and it was planning committees made up of those FTC program managers and others involved with FTC who have organized and set the dates for the FTC super regionals FIRST headquarters had little to do with that. There are many things to consider when setting those dates and a lot of it has to do with how FTC has been run in those areas traditionally, including the dates for their qualifiers and a number of other factors. FIRST is in a transition period and going forward they are looking to unify how the different programs are implemented across the US. A good example is the fact that the FRC district system will be playing with a unified points system for this season rather than leaving many of the details of that to the individual areas to decide.
You mean you don't like scrambling for the chance to pay $9000 for 16 matches instead of being guaranteed $5000 for 24? Are you some crazy person?
*cries*
*shakes fist*
*emails regional directors again*
I'm sorry but you just don't know the effort required to transition to the district system. If you did you would know why there is resistance. One main factor is finding the volunteers required for all those events. Sure we have some great volunteers but we have to be very careful to prevent burn out if we try to have the existing base cover 6 or 7 weekends of events rather than 1 or 2. Certainly there are those among the base that are going to be happy to have the chance to volunteer at many more events but for others we run the risk of pushing them away if we ask too much of them.
Then there is the need to find the locations for all those district events. People from WA FIRST robotics visited around 100 sites to pick the locations for the 7 district events to be held in our state. You must consider many factors in determining if a venue is suitable and you have fit within the availability of the multiple facilities.
Finally there is just the logistics of the fields ect. WA FIRST Robotics has rented a large warehouse to be able to deal with the fields that we have had to purchase. A team of 6 of use spent most of Tue evening just painting the wood to construct the road cases to transport our fields. Even more people spent about 10 hours on building those cases yesterday and we don't even have a single case completely finished. We expect our team of 10 to put in another 10-12 hour day today and probably spend most of Sun before we get the basic cases built.
The amount of labor and capital to get a district system is enormous. I hope that when your area goes to the district system you put your hammer where your mouth is, step up to the plate and be one of the many people who will be needed to make it happen. For example there is a group from Oregon who have traveled about 6 hours to come and make the road case build project happen. They left Oregon at O'dark:30 to be at the field house by about noon yesterday and they will probably not be home until midnight Sun.
PayneTrain
26-10-2013, 11:27
I'm sorry but you just don't know the effort required to transition to the district system. If you did you would know why there is resistance. One main factor is finding the volunteers required for all those events. Sure we have some great volunteers but we have to be very careful to prevent burn out if we try to have the existing base cover 6 or 7 weekends of events rather than 1 or 2. Certainly there are those among the base that are going to be happy to have the chance to volunteer at many more events but for others we run the risk of pushing them away if we ask too much of them.
Then there is the need to find the locations for all those district events. People from WA FIRST robotics visited around 100 sites to pick the locations for the 7 district events to be held in our state. You must consider many factors in determining if a venue is suitable and you have fit within the availability of the multiple facilities.
Finally there is just the logistics of the fields ect. WA FIRST Robotics has rented a large warehouse to be able to deal with the fields that we have had to purchase. A team of 6 of use spent most of Tue evening just painting the wood to construct the road cases to transport our fields. Even more people spent about 10 hours on building those cases yesterday and we don't even have a single case completely finished. We expect our team of 10 to put in another 10-12 hour day today and probably spend most of Sun before we get the basic cases built.
The amount of labor and capital to get a district system is enormous. I hope that when your area goes to the district system you put your hammer where your mouth is, step up to the plate and be one of the many people who will be needed to make it happen. For example there is a group from Oregon who have traveled about 6 hours to come and make the road case build project happen. They left Oregon at O'dark:30 to be at the field house by about noon yesterday and they will probably not be home until midnight Sun.
I am very well aware of the development of the competition in my area as I have friends, former mentors, and sponsors who all serve in some capacity with VirginiaFIRST and I believe this has been in development for for years. I know there have been impact studies that will require around 5 times as many volunteer slots to be filled, I have offered to help with anything they need, and I am trying to work out a schedule as best as someone can a year in advance while still in college, trying to transfer schools, and holding down a job, to manage a volunteering schedule and train for specific key volunteering roles that make the events "go".
In my area, most teams and powers-that-be are ready to make the jump, but the biggest hindrance in starting the system, at least in the meetings I've been to, are mentors who have difficulty understanding that despite all of the challenges that comes with the system, it is a long-term benefit to each team and as a result, the whole region. There are some odd growing pains that some will run into (there is one team in Maryland and another in Virginia that are closer to other regionals than any NCR district site). I am acutely aware of the difficulties in establishing the system and everyone but Michigan is having issues with it right now of various size and scope, but I personally am both able and willing to do the work to improve my commonwealth.
mrmummert
26-10-2013, 15:59
I'm with 1610, one of the teams that will be affected by the change to the district system in 2015.
From what i've heard over the past two years, First originally wanted to start the district system for
the Virginia, DC and Maryland area for 2014, but between resistance to it and the logistics involved delayed
it until 2015, but its coming. I'll miss the regionals (we could still go to NC or
Palmetto i guess if its possible. Team 11 which is in a district also went to Palmetto this year)
One thing going for the district that is coming is that we have a large group of people we can draw from
to handle it. Some of the VCU crew has worked at DC before and some of the Maryland crew has worked at DC and vice versa.
Next season (2014) we plan on attending the Chesapeake regional and will
get to know some of the teams and volunteers there which can be helpful in the future. Some of the Virginia teams have already gone to the DC and Chesapeake regionals before (and vice versa) so we are already heading in the direction of a district system.
I can see maybe two or three district events in virginia, (maybe Norfolk, Richmond and Northern Va.) maybe one in Maryland and one in DC (which MD teams most likely would attend. I'm guessing the district Championship would be at either Richmond or DC. The RD for both Virginia and DC is Patty Cook so she already covers a large area and shes listed already as one of the RD's for Maryland ( William Duncan being the other) Patty has a large staff here in Va. and between them and the Maryland folks i think the'll be able to pull off the change to the district system.
Some of the volunteers here in Virginia also do FTC. The change to the district system
will put a strain on the volunteers the first couple of years i think, but after things settle down it should end up being like anywhere else
that has gone to the district system. Of course some volunteers will have to decide on doing just FRC or just FTC, but there will be
some who will do both. You'll notice the venue changes for both the DC and Chesapeake regionals this year. I'm not sure, but i have a feeling this might be a early attempt to see what venues could be used for the district system.
Jscout11
26-10-2013, 17:31
I'll miss the regionals (we could still go to NC or
Palmetto i guess if its possible. Team 11 which is in a district also went to Palmetto this year.
While us and some other district teams like 245 were able to attend Palmetto in the past, keep in mind that the new district rules restrict teams from registering for regionals until unrestricted registration, which this year is still about two weeks away, so it may be a challenge to attend a regional that fills up quickly like Palmetto. Thats not to say it's impossible to sign up for a regional (we still plan to attend a regional this year) but the prospect of interdistrict play will also bring a lot of new options for district teams.
The Waterloo regional just got really exciting with the addition of Team 254 the Cheesy Poofs! Looks like they wanted a chance to play in Canada before the possible addition of districts next year!
DampRobot
28-10-2013, 20:38
The Waterloo regional just got really exciting with the addition of Team 254 the Cheesy Poofs! Looks like they wanted a chance to play in Canada before the possible addition of districts next year!
I sure didn't see that one coming! I don't think they've played East of CA before CMP in the past five seasons or so... I wonder how the inevitable 254 1114 face off will go down!
Interesting. Montreal is full with only 6 rookies. and 3360 may have created a situation for themselves where they can't even go to their home regional.
Also interesting? What's happening with the team names of the various Ontario teams restructured as community teams last year. Some, like 1114, have dropped their 2013 name and reverted back to their 2012 and prior styling, while others, like 1241, have kept the 2013 style, and still others, like 1334, have added their school name back in, but kept their 2013 name as well.
Actually there is 37 teams that are signed up for the Montreal Regional and I believe there are 42 spots...
PayneTrain
29-10-2013, 00:03
Some updated totals heading into the week, so teams chomping at the bit for unrestricted registration day to gaze upon.
As you may notice, Alamo and South Florida closed today, so while you will likely sorta get off the waitlist in these events, no guarantees except what lies beneath.
Week 2
Northern Lights (Duluth, MN) - 7
Hub City (Lubbock, TX)- 34
Week 3
Mexico City - 19
Week 4
Buckeye (Cleveland, OH)- 10
Week 5
Queen City (Cincinnati, OH) - 11
Pittsburgh - 1
Week 6
Western Canada (Calgary, AB) -7
Windsor Essex Great Lakes - 17
Lone Star (Houston, TX) - 21
I wonder what the increase in teams doubling up on traditional regionals looks like this year.
wilsonmw04
29-10-2013, 00:12
I wonder what the increase in teams doubling up on traditional regionals looks like this year.
I don't think it's an increase in double regionals that is causing this. I think, for the mid Atlantic anyway, it's a reduction in local regional slots. It looks like DC and Chesapeake have reduced their field this year. The crunch hurts.
Anupam Goli
29-10-2013, 01:22
I don't think it's an increase in double regionals that is causing this. I think, for the mid Atlantic anyway, it's a reduction in local regional slots. It looks like DC and Chesapeake have reduced their field this year. The crunch hurts.
It seems that many regional planning committees are moving away from the 60 team massive cluster towards a smaller, more manageable number of teams. Atleast this means more matches. 8 matches is not enough to determine proper seeding. The downside is less teams will be able to go to that 2nd or 3rd regional they want to go to.
Navid Shafa
29-10-2013, 01:40
I don't think they've played East of CA before CMP in the past five seasons or so...
LV: '09, oh'10.
MARS_James
29-10-2013, 08:11
I am now officially worried about Florida FRC this year
As of right now both of our regionals are "full" and we are at 56 teams in the state, last year we had 72 teams.
Now Orlando has had a capacity of 64 teams since 2011 so 9 more spots could be available there, but that still doesn't make up for the fact that we have 16 teams less then last year. What is really shocking is that most of our missing teams are not the usual case of lack of rookie retention, (5 out of our 8 rookies are returning this year) it is our veteran teams that have not registered yet: 59, 665, 1612, 2757, 3376, 3502, 3557, 3611, 3659, 3732, and 3790 all were considered veterans last year and have not registered yet for a competition anywhere.
I would really love to know what happened to the teams above and if anyone can give a hint as to why they might think we have such a hit on our veteran teams. Before it is brought up I am aware that the 3000+ teams hit the 4 year wall this year and you see a lot of teams fold around that time but this seems a little out of the ordinary even for that
PayneTrain
29-10-2013, 08:51
I don't think it's an increase in double regionals that is causing this. I think, for the mid Atlantic anyway, it's a reduction in local regional slots. It looks like DC and Chesapeake have reduced their field this year. The crunch hurts.
To remedy the bunching up from last year, two of the events are in a smaller venue...
That's definitely part of it. Ideally this is just the one crunch year the region operates under before the jump to the new model (Ideally). On top of that, the changing of dates for some teams probably made them rethink how and where to apply first and second, chucking a bunch of Virginia teams onto their own regional's wait list.
At least the Virginia Regional will be the 65+mecca we know and love this year
*sigh*
I don't think it's an increase in double regionals that is causing this. I think, for the mid Atlantic anyway, it's a reduction in local regional slots. It looks like DC and Chesapeake have reduced their field this year. The crunch hurts.
DC and Chesapeake are both in new venues at George Mason University and UMD College Park. This will remove 30+ spots between the two events. Between that and with DC sandwiched in the week between the Maryland and Virginia regional, that doesn't leave a lot of options for DC teams to get a second event.
Wetzel
DC and Chesapeake are both in new venues at George Mason University and UMD College Park. This will remove 30+ spots between the two events. Between that and with DC sandwiched in the week between the Maryland and Virginia regional, that doesn't leave a lot of options for DC teams to get a second event.
Wetzel
Why did they make the change? Were the normal venues unavailable?
Why did they make the change? Were the normal venues unavailable? Cost.
They were both in convention centers, which tend to be expensive. The DC venue change will reduce the cost of the event by more than $100k.
wilsonmw04
29-10-2013, 13:36
It's worse than just DC teams. Once we got wait listed for the MD event, we started looking at other possibilities. The options were limited. There were only two events within an 8 hour drive from Richmond. MD, DC, VA, NC, SC, GA, TN; every single event in these states were full minutes after 2nd enrollment began. It makes FIRST that much more expensive when you have to factor long distance travel into the equation.
Mark McLeod
04-11-2013, 14:29
We passed last seasons total teams (2524) around noon today.
Currently at 2562 2577.
Mostly due to what appears to be some teams coming off waitlists.
Michigan has also added a new District event in Midland, MI.
Two rookies are currently all who are registered there.
GaryVoshol
04-11-2013, 18:46
Michigan has also added a new District event in Midland, MI.
Where is that listed? I don't see it on the FIM site or on the USFIRST events site.
Where is that listed? I don't see it on the FIM site or on the USFIRST events site.
https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=searchform
Check "FIRST Robotics Competition" and "Events". Extend "List Length" to at least "100" and click "Show results"
ctrl + f "Midland"
(I've had iffy results trying to link to these results in the past)
Mark McLeod
04-11-2013, 20:06
It's also the 7th Michigan district event listed here: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/regional-events
Michigan has 252 teams listed. With 13 events they can handle a nominal 260 teams. The added event was inevitable I suppose.
GaryVoshol
05-11-2013, 06:42
Interesting, since that now requires a 3rd field.
Ontario Teams still missing:
From 2013:
1846 - Appeared at QCMO of all places...
2625
2702 - Somehow got into ONWA
3396
3560 - Somehow got into ONTO2
3705 - Appeared at ONTO2
4015
4200
4252 - Appeared at ONTO
4372
4618 - Appeared at ONTO
4659
4678 - Appeared at ONWA and ONWI
4688
4699 - Were registered at GTREast in 2013, but didn't show up.
4727 - Appeared at ONTO
4777 - Somehow got into ONWA
4806
4807
4808
From 2012:
843 - Competed 2002-2012. 2 events per season each season from 2004.
1009 - Competed 2003-2006, 2011-2012, 1 event per season (always at Hershey Center).
1053 - Competed 2003-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center)
1221 - Competed 2003-2008, 2010-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center), except 2012, when they also played at GTREast.
1514 - Competed 2005-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center), except 2012, when they also played at Waterloo
1535 - Split from 1596 in 2007, multiple events per year from 2007-2012.
1605 - Competed 2005-2010, 2012, usually 2 events per year. - Appeared at ONNB
1835 - Competed 2006-2012, 1 event per season (Hershey Center)
2076 - Competed 2007-2009, 2011-2012, 2 events in 2008/2009.
3739
4022
4094
4236
4249
4258
4307
4357
4367
Where is that listed? I don't see it on the FIM site or on the USFIRST events site.
Gary, I am as surprised as you are but in a different way. Per FiM request on Sunday, I looked into where to have additional events based on team locations and existing district event locations. I made the recommendation to add two locations (Midland/Saginaw and one other to remain nameless for now) and was on the phone until 1am on Monday. To have a place firmed up in a certain week, and FIRST got it listed and registered two rookies in a matter of hours on Monday is amazing to me. I will have Kristen update the FiM as soon as possible. I wasn't expecting it to be so quick which is why you didn't see it on the FiM site. Ed
Steven Donow
05-11-2013, 11:19
Interesting, since that now requires a 3rd field.
Not necessarily, in previous years, MAR had only one field (this year they're getting a new one), and just used on official FIRST field on the week that had two events, so one can assume FiM will do the same the weekend with 3 events(unless they wish to make another field)
Allison K
05-11-2013, 11:53
Updated Michigan Stats
(edited post because another team registered while I was typing)
254 teams registered thus far for 2014 (vs. 203 teams in 2013) including...
3 Resurrected Veterans
1 New Veteran
60 Rookie Teams
23 Second Year Teams
There are 8 eight digit teams listed, indicating that there's at least a handful of teams still waiting in the wings.
There are currently 13 district events, and Ed Law's post a few replies back implies that there is possibly a 14th district event in the works (good thing, since we appear to be pushing 260 teams, at which point it would be necessary).
If the capacity for the Michigan State Championships remains at 64 as it has been since the advent of districts, the top 25% of teams will be invited to attend (as opposed to the top 31% of teams last season).
The retention rate from 2013 is currently 94%. There are 13 teams still missing that competed last season: 519, 2000, 2137, 2851, 3421, 3640, 3706, 4294, 4478, 4743, 4755, 4834, and 4839. A few of those teams surprise me as they've been very successful as recently as 2013 (notably 2000, 2137, and 2851 all of whom qualified to attend worlds last season). Has anybody heard from any of these teams?
The retention rate from 2013 is currently 94%. There are 13 teams still missing that competed last season: 519, 2000, 2137, 2851, 3421, 3640, 3706, 4294, 4478, 4743, 4755, 4834, and 4839.
Unless the school suddenly (and shockingly) decides to field the team, 3421 will not be competing this year. Two mentors and a student are joining a new team in Memphis (5046). The school let go of the lead mentor, the other mentors aren't in a position to step up and take it, and the school is unwilling to let parents take control of the team.
Thankfully we had a sizable number of seniors who graduated and the number of teams in the county has exploded, including one at the high school of the town in which our school was located (we were out of the county's vocational school). The remaining students should be able to join a team at either their home school or one nearby, if interested.
Egad! I'm part of a 5000 team now! :eek:
1 New Veteran
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between a "resurrected veteran" and a "new veteran?"
Allison K
05-11-2013, 14:00
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between a "resurrected veteran" and a "new veteran?"
Resurrected Veterans are teams that have competed in the past, dropped out for one or more seasons, and then returned. New Veterans are teams that have formed from experienced students from an existing team (such as a multi-school team splitting into two teams, or a single school forming additional teams at the same school) that haven't existed in any previous year and are assigned a number with the same rookie year as the original team.
wilsonmw04
05-11-2013, 14:00
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between a "resurrected veteran" and a "new veteran?"
a new vet is a new team with veteran members. The other is an old team that reformed.
New Veterans are teams that have formed from experienced students from an existing team (such as a multi-school team splitting into two teams, or a single school forming additional teams at the same school) that haven't existed in any previous year and are assigned a number with the same rookie year as the original team.
That's what I thought. Who's our new veteran in Michigan then?
Allison K
05-11-2013, 14:13
That's what I thought. Who's our new veteran in Michigan then?
The New Vet is 3886, which appears to be the sister team to 3767 out of Traverse City West High School. The Resurrected Vets are 1076 out of Ann Arbor (last competed in 2012), 2048 out of Detroit (last competed in 2011), and 3538 out of Auburn Hills (last competed in 2012).
Jscout11
06-11-2013, 17:31
Reminder that unrestricted registration opens tomorrow. Who else is planning on signing up for another (or even their first) regional?
Anupam Goli
06-11-2013, 23:16
Reminder that unrestricted registration opens tomorrow. Who else is planning on signing up for another (or even their first) regional?
We're probably good with our two events, as it will cost us too much money and it's not worth going to a third event for us (logistics and financially would be hard for us). Hopefully they start clearing some of the waitlists after tomorrow.
Abhishek R
06-11-2013, 23:29
Probably going to sign up for our home regional, Lone Star.
Probably going to sign up for our home regional, Lone Star.
Really cool to see you guys coming to Orlando.
Akash Rastogi
07-11-2013, 13:22
Any updates on waitlists that are being cleared?
Reminder that unrestricted registration opens tomorrow. Who else is planning on signing up for another (or even their first) regional?
I had several of my teams sign up for a third event in the hope that we will make it off the waitlist at one of the two events after our home event.
Any updates on waitlists that are being cleared?
Teams are moved off of the wait lists by the RD and other key members in the region or district. So in the case of MAR and PNW districts they wait lists have been cleared. Many regionals have also cleared their wait lists.
DonRotolo
07-11-2013, 19:02
Updated Michigan Stats
254 teams registered thus far for 2014 (vs. 203 teams in 2013) including...
3 Resurrected Veterans
1 New Veteran
60 Rookie Teams
23 Second Year Teams
FiM might want to start thinking about splitting in two in a few years, if that growth continues.
Allison K
07-11-2013, 19:39
FiM might want to start thinking about splitting in two in a few years, if that growth continues.
Noooooooooooo. It would be so much harder to look up district stats if I couldn't just hit 'Michigan' and be all set. Unless FIRST updates their databases to be searchable by district, then go for it ;)
(The winky face is a "just kidding" because I'm certain the question of splitting FiM into two districts requires significantly more serious consideration that the ease of looking up district stats.)
Also, FiM is currently at 279 teams, plus a couple hidden on waitlists and four temporary eight digit team numbers that appeared today. I'm going to wait until after the payment deadline (and for the team list to level out after any teams drop out) to post a final update since I feel like I'm close to hitting "thread cluttering" level.
Noooooooooooo. It would be so much harder to look up district stats if I couldn't just hit 'Michigan' and be all set. Unless FIRST updates their databases to be searchable by district, then go for it ;)
(The winky face is a "just kidding" because I'm certain the question of splitting FiM into two districts requires significantly more serious consideration that the ease of looking up district stats.)
Also, FiM is currently at 279 teams, plus a couple hidden on waitlists and four temporary eight digit team numbers that appeared today. I'm going to wait until after the payment deadline (and for the team list to level out after any teams drop out) to post a final update since I feel like I'm close to hitting "thread cluttering" level.
In RIMS there is the option to search by district but that was added very recently so it may filter down to the general public site. On the other hand since it is intended for the general public then they may want to keep it searchable by state since someone from the true general public wouldn't know where the boundaries were. On the other other hand in Texas when you are looking up contacts there are options for East, West and Central Texas w/o stating any boundaries.
PayneTrain
07-11-2013, 20:39
FiM might want to start thinking about splitting in two in a few years, if that growth continues.
They have a pretty sweet deal with operating a State Championship that is also the most successful FRC-sanctioned event outside of THE Championship Event, so I don't think they would split the state. I could expect them to somehow add another level of competition at some point between the district and MSC. I might have heard Jim talk about that last night.
Maybe you divide the state into 5 "sections" or "divisions" that each have 4 of their own districts. Then you earn points in your districts to move onto your divisional round, then to the state championship. It's like in college basketball where you play a regular season, then are placed into a division in the NCAA tournament, and then you move on to the Big Dance? I don't know.
Akash Rastogi
07-11-2013, 20:52
They have a pretty sweet deal with operating a State Championship that is also the most successful FRC-sanctioned event outside of THE Championship Event, so I don't think they would split the state. I could expect them to somehow add another level of competition at some point between the district and MSC. I might have heard Jim talk about that last night.
Maybe you divide the state into 5 "sections" or "divisions" that each have 4 of their own districts. Then you earn points in your districts to move onto your divisional round, then to the state championship. It's like in college basketball where you play a regular season, then are placed into a division in the NCAA tournament, and then you move on to the Big Dance? I don't know.
Or add another state to the mix?
XaulZan11
07-11-2013, 21:03
Or add another state to the mix?
Well, with Indiana and Illinois likely forming a district, it looks like Wisconsin is the only bordering state free. ;)
Well, with Indiana and Illinois likely forming a district, it looks like Wisconsin is the only bordering state free. ;)
Upper peninsula teams are always complaining that the drive to their districts is longer than to the Wisconsin Regional! Though there's a UP district this year, for the first time
Christopher149
08-11-2013, 19:40
Upper peninsula teams are always complaining that the drive to their districts is longer than to the Wisconsin Regional! Though there's a UP district this year, for the first time
You got that right. Duluth is 4 hours from us, Milwaukee is 5.5, Twin Cities ~6.
Traverse City ... 7. Everything other district event from before this year is even farther.
So, the Escanaba event at only 3 hours from Houghton is a nice treat.
Pjohn1959
13-11-2013, 09:41
Texas would like to welcome FRC Teams # 4801 & 4802 from Australia, and FRC Team # 5270 From Istanbul, Turkey to the Hub City Regional. I hope they get a lot of frequent flyer miles!
Travis Hoffman
13-11-2013, 11:01
48 got in to Wisconsin off the waitlist - looking forward to it!
XaulZan11
13-11-2013, 12:14
48 got in to Wisconsin off the waitlist - looking forward to it!
Great to hear you got in!
(Although, maybe we would be more welcoming if you decided to bench all your starters in fantasy footbal this week ;) )
Akash Rastogi
13-11-2013, 12:30
Texas would like to welcome FRC Teams # 4801 & 4802 from Australia, and FRC Team # 5270 From Istanbul, Turkey to the Hub City Regional. I hope they get a lot of frequent flyer miles!
Just wondering, do North American regionals offer to help offset costs for teams from other countries? I heard that Hawaii helped out mainland teams in 2008 with some costs so they could attend.
jeser#1772
13-11-2013, 12:56
Just wondering, do North American regionals offer to help offset costs for teams from other countries? I heard that Hawaii helped out mainland teams in 2008 with some costs so they could attend.
Western Canada Regional did this last year, the only one I remember.
Western Canada FRC Regional is looking to recruit existing FRC teams to sign up for the inaugural event.
April 4 - 6th (week 6), 2013 at the Olympic Oval in Calgary Alberta
At our event we will have 15-20 Rookie teams, having experienced FRC teams would be an amazing addition to the event.
$1,500 grant to help cover part of the cost of travel (if needed)
Subsidized accommodations and or billeting available
Less than a 12 hour drive from Washington, Idaho or Oregon to Calgary
Calgary International Regional Airport is a hub for most airline carriers
Support a brand new FRC Regional event and provide experienced presence for new FRC teams
4 world class ski resorts within a 2 hour drive
Tons of interesting tourist experiences including a brand new $40 million Science Centre
Invite any inquiries to be directed to…
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Regional Director
JohnSchneider
13-11-2013, 14:53
Texas would like to welcome FRC Teams # 4801 & 4802 from Australia, and FRC Team # 5270 From Istanbul, Turkey to the Hub City Regional. I hope they get a lot of frequent flyer miles!
I'd be really curious if they come. I know the Australian teams often sign up for regionals to get their kits but then dont attend due to logistics.
Colorado has a team from the UAE this year too I believe.
Ryan Caldwell
14-11-2013, 15:58
There are 13 teams still missing that competed last season: 519, 2000, 2137, 2851, 3421, 3640, 3706, 4294, 4478, 4743, 4755, 4834, and 4839. A few of those teams surprise me as they've been very successful as recently as 2013 (notably 2000, 2137, and 2851 all of whom qualified to attend worlds last season). Has anybody heard from any of these teams?
The reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated...We are currently wait listed at both our district events because we opted out of our "home" event. Thus Michigan doesn't have us officially participating yet. Centerline and Livonia
The New Vet is 3886, which appears to be the sister team to 3767 out of Traverse City West High School. The Resurrected Vets are 1076 out of Ann Arbor (last competed in 2012), 2048 out of Detroit (last competed in 2011), and 3538 out of Auburn Hills (last competed in 2012).
I talked to a mentor from 2000 @ MSC.
She wasn't feeling very good about Team Rock coming back this season.
Calvin Hartley
14-11-2013, 19:32
I talked to a mentor from 2000 @ MSC.
She wasn't feeling very good about Team Rock coming back this season.
I've heard that they (or some of the members) were merging with 2054. I can't speak for the accuracy of this statement but I have heard it from multiple sources. This is intiresting because I believe 2054 was a split-off from 2000.
If anybody can comment on the accuracy of this, please do.
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