2014 Greater Kansas City Regional [Archive]

Alpha Beta

18-10-2013, 17:18

CalTran

18-10-2013, 18:13

What, no history or trivia of the KC regional like last year?

treffk

21-10-2013, 12:41

1802 has registered now!

Woolly

22-10-2013, 12:01

What, no history or trivia of the KC regional like last year?

Well, looking at last year's thread:

For those of you looking for a good week 3 regional, here are some facts.

A lot of parity in the field.

No team has ever captained the winning alliance more than once. (2007 = 935; 2008 = 476; 2009 = 1806; 2010 = 2345; 2011 = 525; 2012 = 1986)
No team has ever been on the winning alliance more than twice.

A deep top end. In 2012...

5 teams went on to seed #1 at another regional event: 16, 935, 1986, 2996, 3528
9 Teams total were part of alliances that won a regional
1/4th of last years field (16/64 teams) attended champs.

Currently 4 states are represented

Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma

All the trivia in the "a lot of parity in the field" was broken by team 1986 captaining the winning alliance while 1806 won it's 3rd Greater Kansas City Regional.

As far as a deep top end goes:
2013:
1 Divisional Finalist at Worlds
2 Teams that made Eliminations in their respective divisions at worlds
2 FRC Top 25 Robots (Ranked #3 and #22)
6 Regional Winner Trophies were brought back to the Kansas City Area (967 makes 7, but they are neither from Kansas City nor registered for this year)
8 World Championship Qualifying Teams (By My Count) (Would be 9 with 1710)

5 states are represented: Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma

Maybe the statistics aren't as impressive, but KC and STL got divided last year by being events on the same week, and team 16 opted not to return to Kansas City. With that in perspective, along with the fact that many teams went to the Razorback Regional where they were beat by an alliance captained by eventual FRC World Champions, team 1477, it's quite understandable that we don't have 9 regional winning teams from 2013.

runneals

23-10-2013, 23:32

2167 just got registered and is on the wait list for KC.

Alpha Beta

24-10-2013, 10:26

2167 just got registered and is on the wait list for KC.

Excellent. I think getting on the wait list before 2nd registration opens up this afternoon is important.

There should still be a few spots left open for teams wanting to come in for 2nd registrations this afternoon as well. We're in a new arena this year, and organizers are indicating a 60 team target size.

1802 has registered now!
And now officialy in as KC's 53rd team.

Wondering what other teams might be lurking on the waitlist.

Alpha Beta

26-10-2013, 18:39

2167 just got registered and is on the wait list for KC.

And now officially listed on the roster for the KC Regional (http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/event/10781/teams).

Want to get a sneak peek at the KC Regional? 35 of the 54 registered teams (including 1 of the 8 rookies) will be competing at the Cow Town (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116771) ThrowDown (http://cttd-robotics.com/) this coming weekend.

0935, 0937, 0938, 1730, 1764, 1775, 1777,
1785, 1802, 1806, 1810, 1825, 1847, 1939,
1982, 1986, 1987, 1994, 1997, 2001, 2335,
2345, 2346, 2353, 2410, 2874, 3172, 3485,
3528, 3612, 3784, 4455, 4522, 4646, 5013.

Edit: 1769 replacing 4646 in the 48 team Cow Town ThrowDown

Alpha Beta

29-10-2013, 11:28

How many teams coming to KC are attending more than 1 regional?

Of the 46 veteran teams registered (8/54 are rookies) 21 of them will be attending a 2nd regional.

Teams Playing Before KC (Perhaps bringing a Wild-Card)
0935 (Arkansas)
1764 (Central Illinois)
1806 (Central Illinois)
1810 (Arkansas)
1939 (Arkansas)
1986 (Central Illinois)
2164 (Central Illinois)
3784 (Arkansas)
4522 (Arkansas)

Teams Playing After KC
0932 (Oklahoma)
0938 (Wisconsin)
1723 (Oklahoma)
1730 (Bayou)
1775 (Oklahoma)
1785 (Oklahoma)
1982 (Colorado)
1987 (Colorado)
2410 (Oklahoma)
3528 (Oklahoma)
3612 (Bayou)
4646 (Wisconsin)

Alpha Beta

01-11-2013, 11:16

News from the KC Regional Director:

As of this morning, we now have 57 teams that have been pulled in to our Regional Tournament and one on the wait list. Olathe South, make sure you get your spot!

All veteran teams from last year are now registered for a 2014 tournament, and when Olathe South registers we will have 10 !!! rookies coming to KC.

I'm wondering... whose the one team left on the waitlist?

Additional news
You Are Invited to FIRST LOOK 2014!
As I hope you have heard by now, you are invited to meet, in person, the new President of US FIRST, Don Bossi, at our FIRST LOOK Party. This party is for your entire team, mentors, parents, teachers, and volunteers. Come out and see our new KC Regional Tournament venue. Doors open at 4:00 on Friday, November 8th. We will have food, tours, workshops, and last but not least, pit selection. Take part in a bingo-style drawing to select your pit for the Regional Tournament. You will want to bring the whole team to make the selection or at a minimum, a team representative. Out-of-town teams, please reply and we will make accommodations for your pit selection that best suits your needs. Please RSVP (https://frcvenuepreviewparty.eventbrite.com/) with the number attending.

Doors open at 4:00 Friday, Nov. 8th for tours and light refreshments
Program 5:15 – 7:00
MCC-Business & Technology
1775 Universal Avenue
Kansas City, MO
RSVP (https://frcvenuepreviewparty.eventbrite.com/)

Alpha Beta

12-11-2013, 17:22

Had a great time at the "FIRST LOOK" for our new regional venue.

Numbers were drawn at random and teams were then given the oppotunity to select their pit location.
A map of the pits can be found here (http://gallery.mailchimp.com/51f922ef3a4cb12c6b9df69a0/files/GKCFRC_Team_Pits.pdf).

I had to leave the event early, and wasn't there for the pit selection, but I did notice one team on the Pit-Map that isn't on the official registration list yet. Must be that one team on the waitlist still. :cool:

PS. Olathe South is now registered, taking us to 9 rookies. 5041 from Iowa is no longer registered for KC. They are now the only rookie registered for Central Illinois.

Abhishek R

12-11-2013, 19:03

Gonna take a wild guess at that team, 118?

SharonO

12-11-2013, 20:19

Gonna take a wild guess at that team, 118?

I "think" that might be a typo for 1108.

holygrail

12-11-2013, 20:21

118 sure seems to have a spot in the pits. When I checked the FIRST website earlier in the day, they still weren't listed though. That would be a lot of fun. KC can be pretty competitive.

jspatz1

12-11-2013, 20:26

I "think" that might be a typo for 1108.

It isn't.

CalTran

12-11-2013, 23:47

ZOMFG if Robonauts are actually coming then my volunteer duties may or may not end up being neglected....

tanmaker

13-11-2013, 00:17

Abhishek R

13-11-2013, 00:18

Is that going to be a full-size practice field?

Alpha Beta

13-11-2013, 00:28

So to those that went, how does the seating situation look? It's been a while since I've been to BTC, but I can't imagine there being much room for seating. That's been a major concern of mine since day one.

Last I heard the bleachers were going to hold about 950 per side (1900 total) which is almost 1000 seats less than Hale, but still more than 30 seats per team. From what I hear ShowReady loves the venue and doesn't think seating will be a problem. There will be substantially more seating than there was in the pit-fields at the 2011 championship.

Is that going to be a full-size practice field?
Yes. The 3 Lee's Summit teams cooperate together to build a full size wooden practice field, invite teams to use it on the pre-bag weekend, and set it up for the local regional.

Really helps when tuning up those autonomous routines. ;)

A map of the pits can be found here (http://gallery.mailchimp.com/51f922ef3a4cb12c6b9df69a0/files/GKCFRC_Team_Pits.pdf).

There are still two empty pits on the diagram, so... Even after 118 comes off the waitlist there would be two openings for any team out there looking for a fun and competative week 3 regional. Would love to have the number of teams divisible by 6 and avoid surrogate matches. Call up the regional director and see if you can join us today. :cool:

jspatz1

13-11-2013, 00:47

Seating: The venue is very large and organizers are bringing in bleachers to hold 1900. For comparison, the portable bleachers that were set up for Champs in 2011 held approx 900. Hale Arena had a capacity of 2800, but we all know much of that was empty. The seating will be closer to the field than was possible at Hale.

Practice Field: The venue layout shows a full size practice field area. We in the Lee's Summit Alliance will strive to provide a full field.

For those that have not seen the venue it is easy to wonder if it will be large enough, but it is quite enormous. There is room for a very spacious pit layout, machine shop, practice field, field area, and a large, separated area for FLL, demos, dining, etc. The lighting is much better than Hale, and there are several advantages such as ample free parking, more concession options, BYO food, better judging rooms, pits closer to the fileld, etc. Compared to some of the basketball arenas we have all competed in, it will be very spacious.

tanmaker

13-11-2013, 00:57

That's great news! I'm disappointed I couldn't attend, but it sounds like the venue will work out really well for the regional! Now just counting down the days until kickoff! (Is it weird that I'm counting those down but not to graduation? haha)

lpickett

13-11-2013, 08:46

Tyler, I am glad you will be there again. What are you doing up at this time in the morning? I am looking forward to seeing all the teams compete and have fun. It will be a change, but hopefully a good one.

Alpha Beta

26-11-2013, 23:01

We've added another state! FRC 118, Robonauts are offically off the wait list and on the roster. Welcome aboard.

We're now at 58 teams. FYI: There is still pit space allocated for 2 more.

holygrail

27-11-2013, 17:27

The Kansas City Regional is going to be great again this year. I'm really excited to meet all the rookie teams and to welcome team 118. I have seen and heard nothing but good things about their helpfulness and professionalism...their robots aren't bad either!:yikes:

Ooh, I would really like to see 118 and 1986 go head to head in a match or five.

On a different note, I really hope the the Lee's Summit teams host the "Saturday before bag day" practice scrimmage again this year. Having some field time before the end of build season was fantastic!

runneals

27-11-2013, 19:41

Ooh, I would really like to see 118 and 1986 go head to head in a match or five.

That would be SOOOO COOL! 118 & 1986! 1939 in the mix would also be cool! Hopefully 3928 can make it down to this one again as well!

Blackphantom91

27-11-2013, 21:19

People are working relatively hard to make sure that seating and spaces are comfortable for all. ;) I am excited for KC this year should be a great regional this year as always!

holygrail

27-11-2013, 23:19

That would be SOOOO COOL! 118 & 1986! 1939 in the mix would also be cool! Hopefully 3928 can make it down to this one again as well!

I think there are still two spots left! Neutrino would be a great addition.

Woolly

28-11-2013, 00:40

Q1-
Red 1986, 1806, 1939
Blue 118, 1730, 3928

...
Then again, that might really mess with the rankings later...

Alpha Beta

28-11-2013, 10:53

Ooh, I would really like to see 118 and 1986 go head to head in a match or five.

Bringing back memories of 2007 and the algorithm of death. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=726817&postcount=4)

On a different note, I really hope the the Lee's Summit teams host the "Saturday before bag day" practice scrimmage again this year. Having some field time before the end of build season was fantastic!

Absolutely. The only thing that would stop us is if Kansas City landed an official week zero event. (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/blog-week-0-observations-and-stop-build-day)

I think there are still two spots left! Neutrino would be a great addition.

At CTTD 3928 indicated they were pulling back this year and just attending one regional. I don't think they are on a waitlist anywhere.

Q1-
Red 1986, 1806, 1939
Blue 118, 1730, 3928
...Then again, that might really mess with the rankings later...

Q1 eh? I know there is an algorithm with a random factor which generates the qualification pairings, but it seems like some high-end robots end up in that first match quite often. After we won our first regional at Hub City last year (where then reigning world champion 16 was featured in Q1) we saw Q1 in our next two regionals. And as Woolly is aware, we squared off against our top pick in GKC for Q1 OKC. Coincidence? That's what I'm told. It does make for an exciting start to the event.

GKC-2013 Q1 2410 3784 1763 935 1986 1625

OKC-2013 Q1 1775 4523 1986 3169 1806 3507

Woolly

30-11-2013, 21:50

Q1 eh? I know there is an algorithm with a random factor which generates the qualification pairings, but it seems like some high-end robots end up in that first match quite often. After we won our first regional at Hub City last year (where then reigning world champion 16 was featured in Q1) we saw Q1 in our next two regionals. And as Woolly is aware, we squared off against our top pick in GKC for Q1 OKC. Coincidence? That's what I'm told. It does make for an exciting start to the event.

GKC-2013 Q1 2410 3784 1763 935 1986 1625

OKC-2013 Q1 1775 4523 1986 3169 1806 3507

I'll add a little more history to this

GKC-2012 Q1 1985 1939 1984 1806 1997 2972
Led to first CO-OP balance in Rebound Rumble. (1985, 1806)

Though, I wonder that if while the pairings may be random, the order may not be (For sake of robots not having back-to-back matches. matches 5 hours apart, etc) and that they look at the list of matches and while ordering matches for team-convenience, they might slip a high-powered match into the Q1 spot while doing so.

vhcook

03-12-2013, 20:52

Though, I wonder that if while the pairings may be random, the order may not be (For sake of robots not having back-to-back matches. matches 5 hours apart, etc) and that they look at the list of matches and while ordering matches for team-convenience, they might slip a high-powered match into the Q1 spot while doing so.

The pairings and sequence are all generated by the algorithm, which takes into account inter-match spacing and attempts to avoid anything resembling the output of the "algorithm of death" -- there's no hand sorting.

holygrail

27-02-2014, 15:04

Just saw in the KC FIRST newsletter that Team Neutrino (3928) from Ames, IA will be joining us at the Kansas City Regional again this year!

Welcome back! So glad you are going to be able to attend a second regional this year! Yet another really high caliber team added to the GKC roster. With so many amazing robots, it is going to be quite a thing to be a part of.

Team List:
Team Number Team Name
118 Robonauts
932 Circuit Chargers
935 RaileRobotics
937 North Stars
938 Team Botman
1723 The FBI - FIRST Bots of Independence
1730 Team Driven
1737 Project X
1763 Paseliens
1764 Liberty Robotics
1769 Digital Hawks
1775 Tigerbytes
1777 Viking Robotics
1785 United Robocats
1802 Team Stealth
1806 S.W.A.T.
1810 Jaguar Robotics
1825 The Cyborgs
1827 Robo-Jackets
1847 Ladder 1847
1939 The Kuh-nig-its
1982 Cougar Robotics
1984 Raider Revolution Robotics
1986 Team Titanium
1987 Broncobots
1994 Horse Power!
1997 Stag Robotics
2001 HERMES
2164 Team 2164 The Corps
2167 Radical Tech
2335 Sargon
2345 Animal Control
2346 Cel-Techs
2353 The Legion
2357 Panthers
2410 Blue Valley CAPS Metal Mustang Robotics
2457 The Law
2560 RoboDog
2874 Eagles
3172 HorsePOWER
3485 Cyclone Robotics
3528 Up Next!
3612 GearHogs
3928 Team Neutrino
3973 Pirate Robotics
4455 The Burger Bots
4522 Team SCREAM
4646 Team ASAP
4809 Black Knight Robotics
4959 Millennium Falcons
5013 Trobots
5082 Northmen Robotics
5098 STING - R
5119 Firebirds
5126 Park Hill South Robotics
5141 PRIDE Robotics
5189 5189 Dead Bolt
5268 The Bio-Mech Falcons

runneals

27-02-2014, 18:21

Agreed! I think KC is becoming one of THE premiere regionals to be at with all of these amazing teams!
See you in a few weeks :)

tanmaker

27-02-2014, 20:19

Agreed! I think KC is becoming one of THE premiere regionals to be at with all of these amazing teams!
See you in a few weeks :)

Thanks, not like that puts any pressure on me or anything! :P

DampRobot

27-02-2014, 20:25

I thought 118 was at Alamo?

Abhishek R

27-02-2014, 20:32

I thought 118 was at Alamo?

GKC is a different week from Alamo.

Woolly

04-03-2014, 13:29

So, we're sure to have at least 2 2014 Regional Winners attending, and a Regional Chairman's winner. Though, there's a pretty good chance we could add more in Arkansas.
Here's to hoping there are plenty of wild cards up for grabs!

Mastonevich

08-03-2014, 22:43

Looks like another wildcard possibility with 1939 winning chairmans at Arkansas. Congratulations to them.

Also congrats to 1108 on a very impressive showing at crossroads. You will be missed at GKC.

eli2410

10-03-2014, 11:28

Agreed! I think KC is becoming one of THE premiere regionals to be at with all of these amazing teams!
See you in a few weeks :)

I think KC might be one of the more underrated regionals. Most of the robots are extremely well built and there are so many great teams. You never know beforehand who is going to win it, and so many of ours go on to do really well in other regionals.

This year, it will definitely be a premiere regional, considering we will have three teams that are already in the Top 25 on FRC Top 25, with 118 being #2, 1986 being #4, and 1806 being #22. And that is just from week one results.

Kuh-Nig-ItsEML

10-03-2014, 13:01

Hey guys, during the Arkansas Regional this year we came up with a new tradition, swaying whenever Mike (who MCs both the Greater Kansas City Regional and the Arkansas Regional) talks to the crowd. We would like other teams to join in with us during the KC regional this year.
With thanks,
Ethan Lopez

Blackphantom91

10-03-2014, 13:21

I think KC might be one of the more underrated regionals. Most of the robots are extremely well built and there are so many great teams. You never know beforehand who is going to win it, and so many of ours go on to do really well in other regionals.

This year, it will definitely be a premiere regional, considering we will have three teams that are already in the Top 25 on FRC Top 25, with 118 being #2, 1986 being #4, and 1806 being #22. And that is just from week one results.

It always is unrightfuly so, if you look at the depth of teams KC is always hard. This is because we all started around the same time and have learned a lot of lessons though the years which makes it super competitive. Look at the last two weeks alone in team accomplishments.

1939 Chairman's award
4522 Regional Finalist, Quality Award
1986 Chairman's and Regional winners
1108 Chairman's, Regional win, and WFFA (even though they are not coming)

Kansas city teams clean up were ever they go.

With great teams like 1806,1730,1987,1723,935,118,1775,3528,1764 and so on the competition is really hard. I always love KC because I never know the outcome before it happens. :yikes: Many of these teams its the first competition, I know that many teams will end up doing very well at their first and second competition this year.

Alpha Beta

10-03-2014, 13:25

8 of the 58 teams gathering for the KC regional this weekend have already played.

Team# -- OPR
1986 --- 82.0
-118 --- 79.9
4522 --- 70.8
1806 --- 66.5
1810 --- 48.4
1939 --- 28.2
1764 --- 25.3
2164 --- 23.9

3 opportunities for a wildcard this weekend too.

1986 Regional Winner and RCA (Central Illinois)
118 Regional Winner (Alamo)
1939 RCA (Arkansas)
(4522 narrowly missed a 4th opportunity for KC, captaining the finalist alliance in Arkansas to near victory.)

Culvan Van Li

11-03-2014, 09:33

tanmaker

11-03-2014, 09:39

It seems to be working fine for me. I plug in either my work or home address, and it gives me directions to the correct place. Don't click on any of the recommendations when Google Maps opens up, type in the starting point address, and it should work fine.

But I agree, I think the actual address should be there instead.

eli2410

11-03-2014, 10:44

It seems to be working fine for me.

Same here

hrench

11-03-2014, 11:01

Also congrats to 1108 on a very impressive showing at crossroads. You will be missed at GKC.

Thanks, its nice to be noticed. Most of us will be there--as volunteers.

Jaxom

11-03-2014, 11:34

On a completely different subject, my wife was looking for information about the regional. She found a site with a link to a map. (http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/event/10781) When she followed it, it came up with the wrong MCC location in Kansas. When I followed it, I got a location in Omaha. It looks like it is searching by name rather than a hard coded address.

I'd hate to have anyone go to the wrong location. Since that is a usfirst.org website, is there a way that it could be fixed?

Andy

It also works for me, using Chrome on Windows 7. What device and program did your wife use to find the map? One of the FLL coaches with whom I work had problems with the directions to our tournament in Kearney, MO. Both my computer & Android phone found the location correctly; on her iPhone both following the link in the email and plugging the address in directly took her to some unknown address in Kansas, about 60 miles away from Kearney.

Did you try a different device & get the same results?

1986titans

11-03-2014, 15:58

It's based on location. If you're far enough away from KC, you'll probably get some weird result from Google trying to match nearby businesses. It's telling me that the regional will be at a gas station on the west side of Manhattan. :rolleyes:

Mastonevich

11-03-2014, 17:16

So after seeing the BBQ (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=773426&postcount=27) discussion on the waterloo (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=127716) regional I was curious what it was for Kansas City seeing we are a great BBQ town.

(If my numbers are correct, 1 mistake already)

GKC has:
2 Championship Division Wins (118-2)
1 4 time chairmans (932)
2 3 time chairmans (118,1987)
1 2 time chairmans (1986)
3 1 time chairmans (1730,1939,3172)
1 11 time winner (118)
1 8 time winner (1986)
1 6 time winner (935)
1 5 time winner (1806)
1 2 time winner (1730)
13 1 time winner (932,938,1775,1802,1810,1984,1987,1997,2345,2410,2 457,3528,3612)

58 teams are attending
62 Win or chairmans blue banners total for BBQ of 1.07 (58/62)
58 2005 and after for Sauce of 1 (58/58)
30 (or 31 not sure) 2011 and after for Briquette of .5 (30/58)

Always fun to play with numbers. ::safety::

1975Flyers

11-03-2014, 17:59

Oklahoma Joes is the best of the best!

Jaxom

11-03-2014, 19:36

Oklahoma Joes is the best of the best!

I ate at OK Joe's today at lunch. Very good, but you happen to be wrong ;) -- Jack Stack is the best. Better beans, better sauces. As Neil deGrasse Tyson said last night on The Cobert Report -- Living in a country with free speech allows you to say whatever you want. It doesn't guarantee you are right.

:D :D :D

Mastonevich

11-03-2014, 20:09

Have to go with JackStack on this one, OK Joes is superb however.

G_rupp

11-03-2014, 22:39

OK Joe's is better because it is only a mile from the office :D

Woolly

11-03-2014, 23:08

1 4 time winner (1806)

Actually, team 1806 has won 5 regionals.

2008 Greater Kansas City (#8/#9 pick)
2008 Oklahoma (3 Seed Captain)
2009 Greater Kansas City (1 seed Captain)
2013 Greater Kansas City (#1 pick)
2013 Oklahoma City (#1 pick)

rlowe61

12-03-2014, 08:37

tanmaker

12-03-2014, 08:38

Haven't looked up the schedule of events yet, just wondering if there is still going to be the Saturday AM Pancakes now that you're at a new venue?

Good Luck to all the teams and can't wait to see teams at St Louis.

It is definitely happening again! I feel like it'll be a sad day when there isn't a pancake breakfast.

Mastonevich

12-03-2014, 09:29

Actually, team 1806 has won 5 regionals.

Updated post above. Thanks for the catch. Unfortunately I deleted my data so I am not sure about the briquette value.

It is hard to really compare those values between events IMHO as some events have 60 teams and others 30. Interesting enough if you added 30 teams (total 60) to waterloo with zero wins or chairmans, they would still have a BBQ of 1.95. That event should be epic.

There are many proven winning teams and some up and comers attending GKC. It should be a great event.

DanielPlotas

12-03-2014, 09:51

only in kc do we argue about bbq on CD

Mastonevich

12-03-2014, 10:23

All in good fun.

Starting tommorow we will have plenty more to discuss besides kc bbq.

eli2410

12-03-2014, 10:26

only in kc do we argue about bbq on CD

I think at least one of the food trucks should be bbq, if not most of them. Someone want to call one of the restaurants up, see if they'll do it? We used to have bbq at Hale Arena, why not now?

BeckyHand

12-03-2014, 11:22

Haven't looked up the schedule of events yet, just wondering if there is still going to be the Saturday AM Pancakes now that you're at a new venue?

Good Luck to all the teams and can't wait to see teams at St Louis.

There is indeed a breakfast! Here is the information for the KC FRC Social: http://www.kcfirst.org/sites/default/files/PancakeInvite2014%20editable.pdf

Thanks,
Becky

KPSch

12-03-2014, 12:05

JackStack is good, but I prefer Arthur Bryant's. I like my BBQ sauce spicy. I don't care for KC Masterpiece. It's too sweet.

Jaxom

12-03-2014, 12:19

only in kc do we argue about bbq on CD

Well, BBQ IS the second most important thing in KC in March. :D

tanmaker

12-03-2014, 12:37

Well, BBQ IS the second most important thing in KC in March. :D

Jayhawk basketball is number 1, right? :D

Mastonevich

12-03-2014, 12:54

Jayhawk basketball is number 1, right? :D

I don't think this deserves a response. Shoot, I guess I just did respond.

Woolly

12-03-2014, 13:06

Unfortunately I haven't been to most of the big name BBQ places in KC. Rosedale Barbeque is good though.

pwnageNick

12-03-2014, 13:07

Jayhawk basketball is number 1, right?

Jayhawk anything is dead last always, that's just common knowledge.

M-I-Z!

-Nick

jspatz1

12-03-2014, 23:20

Live webcast for the Greater Kansas City Regional is here: http://www.more.net/first-robotics

Jaxom

13-03-2014, 03:01

Jayhawk basketball is number 1, right? :D

Apparently not to you. You're not going to be spending Friday and Saturday watching basketball....

rlowe61

13-03-2014, 08:26

Live webcast for the Greater Kansas City Regional is here: http://www.more.net/first-robotics

this is asking for a user id and password. is that because it's still early, or is there an issue??????

thanks

Chexposito

13-03-2014, 11:46

Good luck to all the teams in KC this weekend. Wish I could make it, but I have too many tests this next week.

Also to open the stream in VLC instead of your browser: Media->Open Network Stream and insert the url: http://streaming.more.net/robomatcheslive

The default settings seem to be working fine for me.

rlowe61

13-03-2014, 11:57

Chexposito

13-03-2014, 12:18

Tried both links and everything is asking me for a userid and pwd

Did you try the vlc route? I'm not sure where your issue might be.

Chexposito

13-03-2014, 12:20

JackStack is good, but I prefer Arthur Bryant's. I like my BBQ sauce spicy. I don't care for KC Masterpiece. It's too sweet.

JackStack makes a spicy sauce, it's usually hard to find in store. They have it there in restaurant.

Jeffy

13-03-2014, 12:37

The stream is just showing the normal screensaver for the last 10 minutes. Have any practice matches been playing on it so far?

JackStack makes a spicy sauce, it's usually hard to find in store. They have it there in restaurant.

Gates. My preference. Also have a spicy alternative sauce.

Chexposito

13-03-2014, 13:37

The stream is just showing the normal screensaver for the last 10 minutes. Have any practice matches been playing on it so far?

A few have been played.

Drivencrazy

13-03-2014, 17:35

Is the stream working for anyone right now?

Alpha Beta

13-03-2014, 18:22

4452 hot auto + Truss specialist
1986 hot auto + Middle assist
118 cold auto + high goal finisher

370 pts, no fouls

(It's just practice.)

AdamHeard

13-03-2014, 18:24

4452 hot auto + Truss specialist
1986 hot auto + Middle assist
118 cold auto + high goal finisher

370 pts, no fouls

(It's just practice.)

Any defense?

Chowmaster4695

13-03-2014, 19:13

Any defense?

I wouldn't think so, because it is a practice match.

Mastonevich

13-03-2014, 19:15

No defense that I saw.

Woolly

13-03-2014, 20:02

I wouldn't think so, because it is a practice match.

I saw plenty of defense being played in practice matches. Particularly in a match when us, 1986, and 118 were on the same alliance.

jspatz1

13-03-2014, 20:38

Any defense?

Not much, no. 6 x 50-pt. cycles + 70 auto. = 370

Mastonevich

13-03-2014, 22:38

Not much, no. 6 x 50-pt. cycles + 70 auto. = 370

It was still an impressive match to watch with how smooth all of them ran together.

Coach Norm

14-03-2014, 10:41

Is webcast working for anyone?

I get sound and a picture of sponsor screen and only saw one match.

1986titans

14-03-2014, 11:38

Keeps on freezing every couple minutes for me.

Coach Norm

14-03-2014, 11:39

Got the video but no audio.

Lots of streams are having difficulty. Maybe it is my connection.

Nemo

14-03-2014, 16:32

Just watched the 118-1986-3928 trio score 300 points. Pretty awesome!

vhcook

14-03-2014, 20:40

Congratulations to our lead mentor/coach Gavin Wood on his Woodie Flowers Finalist Award. His presence has made us a better and stronger team, and I'm proud to work with him.

Jaxom

14-03-2014, 20:48

16554

A picture of what I believe is the first GKC pairs skating event. In match 6 Team Titanium & Up Next got attached to each other -- one of our intake mechanums got caught in some tubing they use to stabilize their intake. The drive teams tried to separate the bots but the tubing wouldn't break, so they did several cycles driving together. It did make some of the assists easy, though :) The tubing eventually did break, and we won the match anyway.

vhcook

14-03-2014, 21:14

CalTran

14-03-2014, 22:23

A picture of what I believe is the first GKC pairs skating event. In match 6 Team Titanium & Up Next got attached to each other -- one of our intake mechanums got caught in some tubing they use to stabilize their intake. The drive teams tried to separate the bots but the tubing wouldn't break, so they did several cycles driving together. It did make some of the assists easy, though :) The tubing eventually did break, and we won the match anyway.

Y'all, Cameron and Up Next, drove darn near flawlessly. The movement was so smooth, thats probably why it took so long to snap the line! That, in itself, is a great testament to the driving on both teams.

Also, CONGRATULATIONS Mr. Wood! Seeing you just stand and hug your team was so amazing and heartwarming.

SharonO

15-03-2014, 07:03

[QUOTE=CalTran;1359074]Y'all, Cameron and Up Next, drove darn near flawlessly. The movement was so smooth, thats probably why it took so long to snap the line! That, in itself, is a great testament to the driving on both teams.

We hope we didn't give the GDC doesn't get any ideas for the next game! "Tandem Touchdown" anyone?

Coach Norm

15-03-2014, 12:20

Webcast is down

I get a message that says the file is not a movie file.

Coach Norm

15-03-2014, 13:00

Webcast is down

I get a message that says the file is not a movie file.

EDIT:
Got it to work now.

Mastonevich

15-03-2014, 17:30

It is still disturbing to see so many matches determined by fouls.

TheCrayButton

15-03-2014, 23:37

Here are some pictures of the GKC Regional! More will be coming soon!

http://www.yopyip.com/#!yopyip-forum/cmer/competitions:gkc-regional-pictures-vid

direct link:https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0zxagjo4k8iffcq/OkwutULbfT

JohnSchneider

15-03-2014, 23:49

For those of us in regionals this weekend, can we expect match recordings? I know 1986 usually puts some up but didn't know if they or anyone else recorded.

TheCrayButton

15-03-2014, 23:57

For those of us in regionals this weekend, can we expect match recordings? I know 1986 usually puts some up but didn't know if they or anyone else recorded.

I am pretty sure 118 was shooting the matches. They would probably be somewhere on youtube.

theawesome1730

16-03-2014, 00:00

We did too. Not sure if we had plans to upload or not but if you need them we can

jspatz1

16-03-2014, 00:16

For those of us in regionals this weekend, can we expect match recordings? I know 1986 usually puts some up but didn't know if they or anyone else recorded.

All matches are archived here: http://www.more.net/first-robotics

And are being loaded to YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/user/drunneals

JohnSchneider

16-03-2014, 00:41

All matches are archived here: http://www.more.net/first-robotics

And are being loaded to YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/user/drunneals

Thank you

jspatz1

16-03-2014, 15:13

All matches are archived here: http://www.more.net/first-robotics

And are being loaded to YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/user/drunneals

Semifinals and Finals matches are now uploaded here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TeamTitaniumRobotics

Alpha Beta

16-03-2014, 15:37

Quoted from the Alliance Selection Thread

Greater Kansas City

1. 118-1986-1723 (W)
2. 4522-1730-2346 (SF)
3. 1775-1806-935 (F)
4. 3528-1825-1939 (SF)
5. 1810-1987-4646 (QF)
6. 3928-3172-2410 (QF)
7. 5119-2164-1982 (QF)
8. 3612-1802-2457 (QF)

Quarter Final 4 (3v6) went to 3 matches.
Semi Final 2 (2v3) went to 3 matches.
The Finals (1v3) went to 3 matches.

No declines that I am aware of.

Looks like that 3rd seeded alliance got their money's worth. :)

Gregor

16-03-2014, 15:45

Quoted from the Alliance Selection Thread

Looks like that 3rd seeded alliance got their money's worth. :rolleyes:

Especially since 1775 and 1806 both won wildcards.

Ivan Helmrich

16-03-2014, 20:12

For 1775, more than our money's worth. It's been a while since we made it to the finals so this was especially satisfying for us. Congratulations to 1986, 118, and 1723 on the win, and thanks for those wildcard slots. And of course, thank you to our alliance partners 1806 and 935. It takes a lot of determination to keep coming back and these guys really brought it.

holygrail

16-03-2014, 20:26

First off, congrats to team 3528 UpNext for the big Chairman's win! There aren't many teams that have come so far so fast. Hats off to the team and all the wonderful mentors that you have, we are proud to call you friends.

Also, congrats to the winners 118, 1986 (for their 8th consecutive regional win), and 1723! Also, congrats to the finalists 1775, 1806, and 935 for putting up a heck of a fight. Those were some of the most intense matches I have ever seen!

Also, thanks to all of you for the pats on the back and kind words over the weekend about the WFFA. Winning that award was one of the most meaningful things I have ever experienced, and I can't overstate my gratitude for the students and mentors that make our team great. Also, I have to give credit to my wife, who is not only an amazing mentor herself, but puts up with my robot obsession with grace.

SharonO

16-03-2014, 23:19

First off, congrats to team 3528 UpNext for the big Chairman's win! There aren't many teams that have come so far so fast. Hats off to the team and all the wonderful mentors that you have, we are proud to call you friends.

Thank you Gavin. We were so surprised to hear lines from our presentation being read and when our Hero Project was mentioned, we couldn't contain our excitement. Even though you guys and Titanium had already earned a 2014 Regional Chairman's Award, we still had tough competition from quality programs such as Liberty (1764), Team Driven (1730) and Broncobots (1987). It just shows how incredibly dedicated the teams in Kansas City are to FIRST.

The Woodie Flowers Award couldn't have been given to a better person. It was so touching to see you give your students a great big hug before coming down to accept the award from Woodie himself. Congrats.

Alpha Beta

17-03-2014, 00:46

The qualifications featured some beautiful (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkyekJXnH2s) games (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xR_ryBJRHQ). No doubt these successes had some influence on the alliance selection process.

The eliminations were something completely different, featuring aggressive defense and winners often decided by penalties. While I wouldn't call them beautiful, they were incredibly thrilling.

Final 1 was a 12 point win by red, where they held a 30 point advantage in fouls.
Final 2 was a 33 point win for blue, where they held an 80 point advantage in fouls.
Final 3 was a 5 point win for red in spite of a 50 point foul deficit.

A big thanks to our alliance partners 118 and 1723. The Robonauts were a real pleasure to work with. They clinched 1st place early enough to collaborate on a pick list, led a great 3 team strategy discussion over the lunch break, and delivered in the clutch on the field. The F.B.I. had exactly what we needed in a 3rd pick as a middle assister. Easy human load with a great intake capable of passing back out. They're also the team whose LabView training program provided the foundation for the Innovation in Control award we earned this weekend. With the finals featuring 2 wildcards on the red alliance both teams were fighting to take their 3rd pick to the world championship and we were thrilled to win and take 1723 with us to St. Louis.

Hats off to the finalists 1775, 1806, and 935. Hard to imagine how 935 with their 2 ball autonomous fell that far in the draft. No one in the arena was sure who won that final match until the referee's posted the score. All three of you have championship caliber machines and it's fitting that the wildcards at least let 1775 and 1806 move on.

A little disappointed that we couldn't find a way to get our friends from 4522 to the world championship. According to tracker they had the highest OPR in the building at 128.0 (For comparison 1986 had 119.4, 118 had 115.4, and 1730 had 82.2). It's amazing what you've accomplished in just 2 years. Expecting even greater things in the near future.

Up Next! has an incredible program, and it was great to see you guys win the Regional Chairman's Award. Looking forward to seeing 3528 at champs (But not as an opponent. That didn't work out well last time.) Kansas City is full of fantastic teams, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple other area teams win the award later this season.

What a year for 1939. RCA and Dean's List earlier at Arkansas, and a well deserved WFFA for Gavin Wood in KC. You are an inspiration.

Very thankful that FIRST decided to let seniors remain eligible for the Dean's list one more year. Cameron Lerch is the heart of our team, and the greatest ambassador for the program we've ever had. Watching you hear your name called out for the DLFA is my greatest memory from this weekend.

As a final note: We had some growing pains moving to the new venue. With so many teams in the area it may be time to think about running two smaller events instead of one big one. I'm sure most of the RCA caliber teams would join us in playing at one of the two and volunteering at the other. Just a thought from someone who has little influence on these sort of things.

danielled

17-03-2014, 21:47

Me and some people from my team were able to interview Dr. Woodie Flowers when he came to the regional! If anyone is interested, here is the link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6cRphF_3QE). Enjoy and congrats to all teams that attended.

tanmaker

19-03-2014, 17:52

I feel like I owe 1730, 1763, and 2874 an apology.

As many of you noticed, there was a long delay in the middle of alliance selections. We on the field were notified of a discrepancy between the rankings that were shown in the pit and online, compared to what was on the screen at the field. We discovered that in the computer, it showed the score as 138-131 giving blue the win. However, a score of 151-138 was reported everywhere else, giving red the win. Unsure of what happened, we have very few options since alliance selections had started, and I decided to keep it the 138-131 score.

Last night, I went through and watched that match, scoring each ball and using my notes for the penalty that was applied. With my manually scoring, I got a score of 151-138 for the red alliance. I honestly have no idea what caused the score to change, but the best guess is that some glitch in the system caused it.

I know this effected ranking, and because of that it makes me very upset. So for all teams involved, I'm sorry that this happened, and I sincerely hope it didn't effect anyone too greatly.

Alpha Beta

19-03-2014, 18:54

I feel like I owe 1730, 1763, and 2874 an apology.

I know this effected ranking, and because of that it makes me very upset. So for all teams involved, I'm sorry that this happened, and I sincerely hope it didn't effect anyone too greatly.

It looks like rescoring that match would have raised 1730 a couple of spots in the draft. They were already guaranteed to be an alliance captain. Would they have still said yes to 4522? I think so. Probably no difference here.

What is more interesting is that 1810 would have dropped several spots with the loss. That would have changed the bottom portion of the draft.

Original Ranking --- Corrected Ranking
0118 -------------- 0118
1986 -------------- 1986
4522 -------------- 4522
1775 -------------- 1775
1806 -------------- 1730 (assuming the correction included 10 assist points)
3528 -------------- 1806
1730 -------------- 3528
1810 -------------- 3928
3928 -------------- 5119
5119 -------------- 3612
3612 -------------- 1810

Alliance Selection went thusly:
1. 118-1986-1723 (W)
2. 4522-1730-2346 (SF)
3. 1775-1806-935 (F)
4. 3528-1825-1939 (SF)
5. 1810-1987-4646 (QF)
6. 3928-3172-2410 (QF)
7. 5119-2164-1982 (QF)
8. 3612-1802-2457 (QF)

Good news is that everyone who was an alliance captain would have still been an alliance captain. None of the lower seeds pulled off the upset in quarterfinals as it was. But who knows what the Butterfly Effect would have yielded.