WHEELCHAIR WHEEL MAXIMUM?

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 8:40 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.



Can anyone confirm that the maximum # of these wheels that we can use is 6 and not 10?

Thanks...

-anton

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Posted by Jason Rudolph at 1/18/2001 8:47 PM EST


Other on team #459, Rampage, from University of Florida/Eastside High School and .


In Reply to: WHEELCHAIR WHEEL MAXIMUM?
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 8:40 PM EST:



The maximum would be ten. However, the maximum you could have of one size would be 8. You have 4 in the kit (2 six inch, 2 8 inch) and are allowed to purchase an additional 6 ranging in size from 5 inch to 8 inch. So, you COULD have 10 wheels, the 4 from the kit, and an additional 6 from the additional hardware list, but you can't have 10 of the same size. Hope this helps

Jason
"can't this wait till I'm old? Can't I live while I'm young?"

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 8:51 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.


In Reply to: Re: WHEELCHAIR WHEEL MAXIMUM?
Posted by Jason Rudolph on 1/18/2001 8:47 PM EST:



she said maximum is 6? anyone else dispute this?

i thought 10 too... i figured i could buy 6 and use the 4 in the kit?

-anton

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 9:04 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.


In Reply to: called FIRST, spoke to Tammy...
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 8:51 PM EST:



this is getting annoying...

first we wanted to do treads but found out after a day of looking for parts that we could not buy belts outside spi.

then we find out that we can because there was a mistake. but we decided to use 10 wheels instead.

then we find out 10 wheels is prohibited so we design to make our own wheels....

but now i'm not sure if 10 is doable because it's easier for us to make if we could use 10.....

SO WHAT IS IT? maximum of 10 wheelchair wheels? or maximum of 6 wheelchair wheels???? aHHHHH we're falling behind schedule wasting days to redesign over a rule that is not clear!

help!!!!

-anton

ps. in other news, we're making legs for our robot. let's see FIRST stop us! ha!

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Posted by Jason Rudolph at 1/18/2001 9:26 PM EST


Other on team #459, Rampage, from University of Florida/Eastside High School and .


In Reply to: grrrr..
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 9:04 PM EST:



Um, I don't know Anton, i think you might want to call FIRST again, but talk with Eric. You are allowed 6 wheels on the ADDITIONAL hardware list (i.e. addition to the kit). Therefore, it seems pretty clear to me you can have 10 total, 4 from kit, and 6 from add hardware.

Jason

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 9:30 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.


In Reply to: Re: grrrr..
Posted by Jason Rudolph on 1/18/2001 9:26 PM EST:



i've emailed him too...

can anyone confirm Jason?

-anton

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 10:31 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.


In Reply to: thanks man... i did try to call eric today like 5 times...
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 9:30 PM EST:



some people have said 6, some have said 10. all we wanna do is make a row boat and let us order the darn wheeeeeels!!!


-anton

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Posted by Joe Johnson at 1/18/2001 10:42 PM EST


Engineer on team #47, Chief Delphi, from Pontiac Central High School and Delphi Automotive Systems.


In Reply to: anybody?
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 10:31 PM EST:



Anton,

The wheels are 5 buck each yes? How many are you going
to order?

I suppose that you need to order at most 6 and at least
2. That means that you have a risk of 4 wheels or $20.

Here is what I recommend:

Order the wheels, if FIRST changes the rules to only
allow 6 (and it WOULD be a change, because to me, the rules
as written now clearly allow 10 -- 4 from the kit and 6
more from the additional hardware list), find me in the
pits at the Nationals in Florida, I will by your extra
wheels from you. You get your money back and I get
some more wheels for our stash in the gray cabinet in
the corner. Everybody goes away happy and that will be
that.

Joe J.

P.S. I see no reason for FIRST to change the rules, so
I am sure that I will NOT be buying your wheels, but I
am good for it in any case. I urge you do design your
robot assuming that you have the 10 available. JJ

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 10:46 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.


In Reply to: Order your wheels...
Posted by Joe Johnson on 1/18/2001 10:42 PM EST:



10 wheels it is......

As for the wheels, if first changes the rules, i'm going to order a thousand wheels and send them one everyday.

-anton

ps. thanks for the reply. my mind is calm and i can finally get sleep.

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 11:07 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.


In Reply to: Order your wheels...
Posted by Joe Johnson on 1/18/2001 10:42 PM EST:



i say screw it, i dont want to wait.

i'll order both and make a second robot for kicks...

that way i can build the second one just in case...

ty....

-anton

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Posted by Joe Ross at 1/18/2001 11:43 PM EST


Engineer on team #330, Beach Bot, from Hope Chapel Academy and NASA/JPL , J&F Machine, and Raytheon.


In Reply to: Order your wheels...
Posted by Joe Johnson on 1/18/2001 10:42 PM EST:



Just remember that only 8 of those wheels can be the same size.

: Anton,

: The wheels are 5 buck each yes? How many are you going
: to order?

: I suppose that you need to order at most 6 and at least
: 2. That means that you have a risk of 4 wheels or $20.

: Here is what I recommend:

: Order the wheels, if FIRST changes the rules to only
: allow 6 (and it WOULD be a change, because to me, the rules
: as written now clearly allow 10 -- 4 from the kit and 6
: more from the additional hardware list), find me in the
: pits at the Nationals in Florida, I will by your extra
: wheels from you. You get your money back and I get
: some more wheels for our stash in the gray cabinet in
: the corner. Everybody goes away happy and that will be
: that.

: Joe J.

: P.S. I see no reason for FIRST to change the rules, so
: I am sure that I will NOT be buying your wheels, but I
: am good for it in any case. I urge you do design your
: robot assuming that you have the 10 available. JJ

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Posted by nick237 at 1/18/2001 9:46 PM EST


Engineer on team #237, sie h2o bots, from Watertown high school ct and sieman co.


In Reply to: grrrr..
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 9:04 PM EST:



Legs are OK Anton and they are encouraged but you must not use any "SOCK,S" as there not in the small parts book. we should contact SPI and ask them to add them next year.
nick237


: this is getting annoying...

: first we wanted to do treads but found out after a day of looking for parts that we could not buy belts outside spi.

: then we find out that we can because there was a mistake. but we decided to use 10 wheels instead.

: then we find out 10 wheels is prohibited so we design to make our own wheels....

: but now i'm not sure if 10 is doable because it's easier for us to make if we could use 10.....

: SO WHAT IS IT? maximum of 10 wheelchair wheels? or maximum of 6 wheelchair wheels???? aHHHHH we're falling behind schedule wasting days to redesign over a rule that is not clear!

: help!!!!

: -anton

: ps. in other news, we're making legs for our robot. let's see FIRST stop us! ha!

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 10:09 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.


In Reply to: Re: grrrr..no sock,s
Posted by nick237 on 1/18/2001 9:46 PM EST:



TONIGHT!

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Posted by nick237 at 1/18/2001 10:38 PM EST


Engineer on team #237, sie h2o bots, from Watertown high school ct and sieman co.


In Reply to: DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER NICK??? I wanna order these babies!
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 10:09 PM EST:



Ok. your not allowed socks but you are allowed string, so knit a pair, assuming your bot has only 2 legs/feet.
EASY.
nick237

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 10:43 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.


In Reply to: Re: yes: the answer
Posted by nick237 on 1/18/2001 10:38 PM EST:



i wish these rules were clearer.....and i wish eric was available 24/7. and i wish i could have a million bucks.

-anton

ps. what's with the sock obsession ? :P

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Posted by Tammy Trimble at 1/19/2001 9:51 AM EST


Other from FIRST.


In Reply to: called FIRST, spoke to Tammy...
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 8:51 PM EST:



I totally dispute this. I was wrong. I just spoke with Eric and verified with him and out his mouth I was told 10 wheelchair wheels. You were provided with 4 and can purchase up to 6 more. Fabricating any wheels you would like is fine, but 10 is the magic number for wheelchair wheels.
Very Very sorry for the mix up. :O)

: she said maximum is 6? anyone else dispute this?

: i thought 10 too... i figured i could buy 6 and use the 4 in the kit?

: -anton

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Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 10:00 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.


In Reply to: WHEELCHAIR WHEEL MAXIMUM?
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 8:40 PM EST:



I got two designs here and a full list of parts for both. I'm tempted to just order both and return whatever needs to be returned.

I've heard mixed answers....some said 6, some said 8. Aztech last year used 8.... (i looked at all the bots in the gallery.) The rule this year is same as last year... (the wording at least is the same....) Tammy at first told me 6. People tell me to ask eric...


ahhhhh

-anton