Wildcard 2014

[PVCpirate]

Doing this again, the goal is still to maintain a base of Wild Card information for teams it is relevant to. Before each week of competition, I will again post a list of teams attending that event who have already qualified for the Championship, and would create a Wild Card slot by winning the competition (more information on the system can be found at http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/championship-eligibility-criteria. If anyone would like to help me do this, correct me or post relevant information, feel free to do so. This should help teams be better informed about what they have to do to qualify for CMP so they can celebrate at the appropriate time:D.

[Joseph1825]

Am I correct that the greater kansas city regional already has two teams coming that are bringing a wildcard? 118 and 1986 both won a week one event, so if they are both on the winning alliance at GKC then the captain and first pick of the second place alliance will qualify for championship? (I am just checking if I understand how wildcard spots work.) Thanks.

[brandon.cottrell]

Am I correct that the greater kansas city regional already has two teams coming that are bringing a wildcard? 118 and 1986 both won a week one event, so if they are both on the winning alliance at GKC then the captain and first pick of the second place alliance will qualify for championship? (I am just checking if I understand how wildcard spots work.) Thanks.

Yes, this is how this would work

What I think would be really funny is if every team on the finalist alliance was wildcarded

[Thad House]

Yes, this is how this would work

What I think would be really funny is if every team on the finalist alliance was wildcarded

That actually happened a few times last year. If 2 robots on 1 alliance, and 1 robot on the other alliance are prequalified for worlds, all 6 robots would get invites to worlds no matter which alliance wins the finals.

[Racer26]

That happened at GTRW last year.

[PVCpirate]

With the conclusion of Inland Empire, Week 1 is in the books! Congratulations to the 26 teams who qualified for Championship! Out of those teams, only 1 is competing next week: team 1241, Theory 6 at GTR East. So, here is the short list of possible wildcards for next week:

Week 2 Wildcard Possibilities:

GTR East: 1241

If 1241 is on the winning alliance at GTR East, the finalist alliance captain will be awarded a Wild Card slot and qualify for Championship.

[Jaxom]

That happened at GTRW last year.

And Oklahoma City.

[PVCpirate]

Theory 6 came up just short of a win at GTR East this weekend, so no one earned a wildcard slot in Week 2. That is looking much more likely this week, with 13 qualified teams in action at 7 different events in Week 3. Without further ado...

Wildcard Possibilities for Week 3:
Dallas
359
1817
2158
4063

Greater Kansas City
118
1939
1986

North Carolina
4935

Orlando
624

Sacramento
1671
1678

St. Louis
4500

Utah
399


If any of these teams win their respective regional, a team on the finalist alliance will qualify for CMP via a Wildcard slot. Good luck to all teams competing in Week 3!

[AllenGregoryIV]

Dallas
359
2158
4063


1817 were winners at Hub City and will be competing in Dallas this weekend.

[Gregor]

If a HOF team, or another team that prequalified for champs before the 2014 season is the captain of the finalist alliance in which they should earn a wildcard, is the wildcard applied to them or their first pick?

[orangemoore]

If a HOF team, or another team that prequalified for champs before the 2014 season is the captain of the finalist alliance in which they should earn a wildcard, is the wildcard applied to them or their first pick?

It goes to the first team that has not qualified for championship.

[cgmv123]

It goes to the first team that has not qualified for championship.

First team that has not qualified this season. HOF/Winning last year doesn't count.

[Gregor]

If a HOF team, or another team that prequalified for champs before the 2014 season is the captain of the finalist alliance in which they should earn a wildcard, is the wildcard applied to them or their first pick?

Nevermind, I decided to go find the document.

It goes to the first team that has not qualified for championship.

I thought so too, but apparently not.

http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2014/Wlid%20Card%20Worksheet%202014.pdf

See the second sentence of step 5.

[JTEarley]

Orlando has at least one wild card from 624. I'm not sure if there are any others

[Yipyapper]

Since no one from Waterloo is competing in a week 3 event, we can determine (I looked at Gregor's post on Waterloo just a moment ago, kudos to that) that if one of the following teams wins at Waterloo, then the finalists will make it on:

254 - Central Valley Winners
781 - Greater Toronto East Chairman's
1241 - Greater Toronto West Chairman's
1285 - Greater Toronto East Winners
3161 - Greater Toronto East Engineering Inspiration

Like Gregor said:
I expect everyone from the finalist alliance to qualify for champs, just like last year.

[PVCpirate]

1817 were winners at Hub City and will be competing in Dallas this weekend.

You're right, I just forgot to copy them off of my spreadsheet. I'll edit my post.

[orangemoore]

Nevermind, I decided to go find the document.



I thought so too, but apparently not.

http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2014/Wlid%20Card%20Worksheet%202014.pdf

See the second sentence of step 5.

That is very interesting. I wonder if tha'ts an error.

[brandon.cottrell]

For Las Vegas, 399, 987, 1266, 1538, and 3476 have already qualified.

[Jay O'Donnell]

For Las Vegas, 399, 987, 1266, 1538, and 3476 have already qualified.

1538's qualification as a hall of fame team does not generate a wild card slot. Only teams who have qualified in 2014 generate a slot (the other four teams all do).

[brandon.cottrell]

1538's qualification as a hall of fame team does not generate a wild card slot. Only teams who have qualified in 2014 generate a slot (the other four teams all do).

Oops, sorry, should've read the thread more carefully before replying.

[Meredith Novak]

Arkansas rookie FRC 5006 won Rookie All-Star at Arkansas and FRC 16 won the event. Both teams will be competing at Queen City.

[PVCpirate]

Ok, so after Week 3, we now have 5 Wildcard qualifiers! Congratulations to team 2085 RoboDogs at Sacramento, teams 1775 Tigerbytes and 1806 S.W.A.T. at Greater Kansas City, team 4256 Cyborg Cats at St. Louis, and team 2848 The All Sparks at Dallas, who all qualified for Championship via a Wildcard slot.

[PVCpirate]

Wildcard Possibilities for Week 4:

Boilermaker: 135
Buckeye: 4269
Los Angeles: 330, 973
Waterloo: 254, 781, 1241, 1285, 3161
Wisconsin: 1714, 3018, 3692, 4296, 4531

Any of these teams will generate a wildcard slot with a win at their regional. Good luck! :D

[waialua359]

Ok, so after Week 3, we now have 5 Wildcard qualifiers! Congratulations to team 2085 RoboDogs at Sacramento, teams 1775 Tigerbytes and 1806 S.W.A.T. at Greater Kansas City, team 4256 Cyborg Cats at St. Louis, and team 2848 The All Sparks at Dallas, who all qualified for Championship via a Wildcard slot.

Glad we could be of help once again this year. ;)

Hopefully we can help another team next week in Hawaii. :)

[Dr. Shocker]

Here's my attempt to compile a list for those attending FLR:

20, 340, 639, 1126, 1511, 1592, 4930

that's roughly 14% of teams attending, I'd say there's a decent chance of at least one finalist qualifing for champs off of a wild card. :)

[Reanna]

Do teams who have qualified for a wildcard at a previous regional create a wildcard at subsequent regionals?

[vhcook]

Do teams who have qualified for a wildcard at a previous regional create a wildcard at subsequent regionals?

Potentially, yes. After receiving a wildcard, you have qualified for championships in the current year, and are therefore a carrier at subsequent events.

[mwmac]

After today's results, Las Vegas will feature six teams that have already won a regional: 399; 1266; 1717; 2122; 2403 and 2486.

[mmaunu]

After today's results, Las Vegas will feature six teams that have already won a regional: 399; 1266; 1717; 2122; 2403 and 2486.

Teams 987 and 3476 have already qualified as well (Engineering Inspiration and Regional Chairman's in San Diego).

[vinnie]

Teams 987 and 3476 have already qualified as well (Engineering Inspiration and Regional Chairman's in San Diego).

3309 has also qualified with Engineering Inspiration at Los Angeles.

[mwmac]

So after adding up EI, RAS, RCA and regional winners there will be 10 teams at Las Vegas that could create a wild card: 399, 987, 1717, 2122, 2403, 2486, 3309, 3476 and 5012...or almost 20% of the competitors.

[PVCpirate]

Here are the Week 4 Wildcard qualifiers: congratulations to team 1756 Argos at Boilermaker and team 3683 Team Dave at Waterloo for qualifying for the Championship via a Wildcard Slot!

Now, on to Week 5. Wow, these teams are really starting to pile up! This week there are 38 teams at 11 different events that can create a Wildcard slot.

Week 5 Wildcard possibilities:

10000 Lakes: 2052, 2502
Finger Lakes: 20, 340, 639, 1126, 1511, 1592, 4930
Greater DC: 2642
Hawaii: 359, 3008
North Bay: 610, 1305, 1310, 1334, 4476, 4914, 5076
North Star: 1816, 2175
Oklahoma: 932, 1723, 1775, 3528
Peachtree: 1261, 2283, 2415, 2974
Greater Pittsburgh: 337, 1501, 3504
Queen City: 16, 525, 3138, 3301, 5006
Smoky Mountains: 3824

[waialua359]

Here are the Week 4 Wildcard qualifiers: congratulations to team 1756 Argos at Boilermaker and team 3683 Team Dave at Waterloo for qualifying for the Championship via a Wildcard Slot!

Now, on to Week 5. Wow, these teams are really starting to pile up! This week there are 36 teams at 10 different events that can create a Wildcard slot.

Week 5 Wildcard possibilities:

10000 Lakes: 2052, 2502
Finger Lakes: 20, 340, 639, 1126, 1511, 1592, 4930
Greater DC: 2642
North Bay: 610, 1305, 1310, 1334, 4476, 4914, 5076
North Star: 1816, 2175
Oklahoma: 932, 1723, 1775, 3528
Peachtree: 1261, 2283, 2415, 2974
Greater Pittsburgh: 337, 1501, 3504
Queen City: 16, 525, 3138, 3301, 5006
Smoky Mountains: 3824
Excuse me. I think you are forgetting the best regional this season.
The Hawaii regional. :)

[PVCpirate]

Excuse me. I think you are forgetting the best regional this season.
The Hawaii regional. :)

Whoops, I had it in Week 6 on my spreadsheet. Editing now.

[Yipyapper]

Could've sworn there were more possibilities for Wildcard slots in Windsor-Essex. With most of these teams having strong chances to make it to finals or better, we could still see all 6 teams in the finals making it on to champs.

772 - NB Engineering Inspiration
781 - GTE Chairman's Winner
1241 - GTW Chairman's Winner
1285 - GTE Regional Winner
1305 - WAT Engineering Inspiration/NB Chairman's Winner
2056 - WAT Regional Winner
4917 - WAT Rookie All-Star

[raptaconehs]

Does anyone know which teams will create wildcard spots at the Colorado Regional?

[PVCpirate]

Does anyone know which teams will create wildcard spots at the Colorado Regional?

I've been keeping track, look for a post here in a couple of days with all the possible teams for Week 6 regionals.

[Neima]

At 10,000 lakes the second seed alliance (2052, 3313, 2227) Beat the fourth seed alliance (4536, 2705, 3202). 2052 Won the lake superior regional so team 4536 MinuteBots gained a wildcard spot at champs.

[Anupam Goli]

The winning alliance at Peachtree consisted of a previous Regional Winner (2283, who won the Mexico City Regional), and so the captain of the finalist alliance, 3318, received a wild card invitation to the Championships.

[ThunderousPrime]

The winning alliance at Finger Lakes (1507, 20, 378) contained Team 20, The Rocketeers which had won a previous regional. A wildcard invitation qualified Finalist alliance captain 3015 Ranger Robotics for Champs.

[waialua359]

At the Hawaii regional: Team 2443, Blue Thunder, from Maui, Hawaii qualified for the Championships as the captain of the finalist alliance from 359.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

The winning alliance at Peachtree consisted of a previous Regional Winner (2283, who won the Mexico City Regional), and so the captain of the finalist alliance, 3318, received a wild card invitation to the Championships.

Walton robotics (Team 2974) won chairman's at peachtree (congratulations). Since they won EI at Palmetto we thought there might be a 2nd wildcard at Peachtree but FIRST said 'no'.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Walton robotics (Team 2974) won chairman's at peachtree (congratulations). Since they won EI at Palmetto we thought there might be a 2nd wildcard at Peachtree but FIRST said 'no'.

I'm fairly certain wildcards only apply if you win your second event after qualifying at your first, not if you win an award like Chairman's or EI.

[Gregor]

I'm fairly certain wildcards only apply if you win your second event after qualifying at your first, not if you win an award like Chairman's or EI.

Yep, you have to win the second event to create a wildcard.

http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2014/Wlid%20Card%20Worksheet%202014.pdf

[Mastonevich]

I believe for CO the wildcard possibilities are:

2996 (Winner, CM Utah)
3562 (EI Central Valley)
4499 (EI Inland Empire)

[the.miler]

For Silicon Valley Regional, I think the wildcard possibilities are as follows:

254 - Regional Winner (Central Valley & Waterloo)
368 - Regional Winner (Hawaii)
766 - Regional Winner (Sacramento)
846 - Regional Winner (Buckeye)
971 - Regional Winner (Sacramento)
1678 - Regional Winner (Inland Empire & Sacramento)
2135 - Regional Winner (Central Valley)
3256 - Regional Chairman's Award (Central Valley)

Please correct me if I've missed anyone. Silicon Valley should be exciting.

[PVCpirate]

In addition to what has already been posted, there were a few other wildcard qualifiers in Week 5: 4069 Lo-Ellen Robotics and 5191 LANCERobotics at North Bay, and team 868 TechHOUNDS at Queen City.

Now, we're on to Week 6! (can you believe it's almost over?) It's the last chance for regional teams to qualify for Championship, and another big week for Wildcards! 51 teams can create Wildcard slots this week over 11 events.

Week 6 Wildcard Possibilities:

Bayou: 1311, 2468, 3937
Chesapeake: 229, 329, 1610, 1885, 4945
Colorado: 2996, 3562, 4499, 4944
Windsor-Essex Great Lakes: 772, 781, 1241, 1285, 1305, 2056, 4917
Las Vegas: 399, 987, 1266, 1717, 2122, 2403, 2486, 3309, 3476, 5012
Lone Star: 118, 148, 418, 457, 624, 1477, 2848
Midwest: 1732
New York City: 1156, 3158
South Florida: 108, 180, 4965
Silicon Valley: 254, 368, 766, 846, 971, 1678, 2135, 3256
Western Canada: 1334

[Mastonevich]

Thanks Anthony, that looks like a comprehensive list. Good work.

[Team3844]

Why are wildcard slots not generated when a team wins multiple championship bids at the same regional. It looks like the fact that the slot was created at that regional it should get used at said regional. Team 3844 was the Smoky Mountain Regional Finalist Team Captain. The regional winning alliance won the Chairman's. award along with the second bid for winning in Finals but due to it being in the same regional no wildcard slot was created. I guess I am just whining but it seems logical for the wildcard to take effect immediately.

[PVCpirate]

Why are wildcard slots not generated when a team wins multiple championship bids at the same regional. It looks like the fact that the slot was created at that regional it should get used at said regional. Team 3844 was the Smoky Mountain Regional Finalist Team Captain. The regional winning alliance won the Chairman's. award along with the second bid for winning in Finals but due to it being in the same regional no wildcard slot was created. I guess I am just whining but it seems logical for the wildcard to take effect immediately.

While I would agree with you that a team that double qualifies at one regional should pass the extra slot on to another team at the same event, that simply is not how the system is set up right now. I'm not sure on the reasoning, could have something to do with the timing of finals and awards. The finalist team's qualification could seem sort of retroactive if it was done that way.

[ErvinI]

While I would agree with you that a team that double qualifies at one regional should pass the extra slot on to another team at the same event, that simply is not how the system is set up right now. I'm not sure on the reasoning, could have something to do with the timing of finals and awards. The finalist team's qualification could seem sort of retroactive if it was done that way.
Since RCA, EI and (iirc) RAS are given after the final matches, how do you "pass on" those awards if the winning teams also qualify via winning the regional? There's no "runners up" for these awards right now. You could announce at the very end of the ceremonies that a new wild card will be created for the winning finalists, although that will extend the ceremonies further (I don't think this is a big issue, but I can't see other reasons for the current wild card system being what it is.)

[Team3844]

Since RCA, EI and (iirc) RAS are given after the final matches, how do you "pass on" those awards if the winning teams also qualify via winning the regional? There's no "runners up" for these awards right now. You could announce at the very end of the ceremonies that a new wild card will be created for the winning finalits, although that will extend the ceremonies further (I don't think this is a big issue, but I can't see other reasons for the current wild card system being what it is.)

I realize the order of awards makes it an issue, but it is a very small issue and would only add several minutes to the ceremony. I guess there must be a reason we don't see
because language in the rules calling only for previous winners is very to the point.