Texas Rankings 2014 [Archive]

I-DOG

03-03-2014, 03:36

To continue last year's fun, I ranked the Texas teams using the FiM District Points Ranking System (http://www.firstinmichigan.org/FRC_2014/District_Standard_Points_Ranking_System.pdf)

POINT CATEGORY POINTS POINTS
Win-Loss Record in Qualifying Rounds
Win 2
Tie 1
Final Alliance Captains After Picking
#1 Alliance Captain 16
#2 Alliance Captain 15
#3 Alliance Captain down to #8 Alliance Captain 14 down to 9
Draft Order by Acceptance
#1 Draft Pick (Accepted) 16
#2 Draft Pick (Accepted) 15
#3 Draft Pick down to #16 Draft Pick 14 down to 1
Elimination Round Performance
Winning Alliance Teams: 30
Finalist Alliance Teams: 20
Semi Finalist Alliance Teams: 10
Awards
Chairman's Award 10
Engineering Inspiration 8
Rookie All Star 8
Industrial Design 5
Quality 5
Excellence in Engineering 5
Innovation in Control 5
Creativity 5
Entrepreneurship 5
Team Spirit 5
Gracious Professionalism 5
Imagery 5
Industrial Safety 5
Judges Award 5
Rookie Inspiration 5
Team Age
Rookie Teams 10
Second-year Teams 5

Rank Team Points
1 624 81
2 118 71
3 2468 58
4 148 54
5 3103 50
6 3305 38
7 2158 32
8 2789 30
9 2881 30
10 2936 30
11 5052 30
12 3614 29
13 457 27
14 3335 25
15 3999 25
16 3481 23
17 4412 23
18 5103 23
19 231 18
20 3320 18
21 5241 16
22 4981 16
23 4063 15
24 4597 15
25 4696 15
26 4747 13
27 704 12
28 2969 12
29 3561 12
30 2833 11
31 4610 11
32 57 10
33 653 10
34 2966 10
35 3029 10
36 3679 10
37 3700 10
38 3743 10
39 5047 10
40 5057 10
41 5070 10
42 5212 10
43 5242 10
44 5261 10
45 5272 10
46 5287 10
47 5320 10
48 5342 10
49 441 8
50 1255 8
51 2721 8
52 3240 8
53 3802 8
54 4219 8
55 4332 8
56 4378 8
57 4670 7
58 499 6
59 2805 6
60 2982 6
61 2985 6
62 3035 6
63 3037 6
64 3080 6
----------------------------------------------------------------------
65 3345 6
66 3366 6
67 4570 5
68 4587 5
69 4589 5
70 4639 5
71 4641 5
72 4694 5
73 4717 5
74 4734 5
75 4798 5
76 4799 5
77 4852 5
78 4853 5
79 1642 4
80 2952 4
81 418 0
82 647 0
83 1296 0
84 1429 0
85 1477 0
86 1745 0
87 1801 0
88 1817 0
89 2582 0
90 2583 0
91 2585 0
92 2587 0
93 2613 0
94 2747 0
95 2848 0
96 2882 0
97 2897 0
98 2950 0
99 2965 0
100 3005 0
101 3016 0
102 3028 0
103 3043 0
104 3282 0
105 3310 0
106 3350 0
107 3355 0
108 3370 0
109 3413 0
110 3417 0
111 3497 0
112 3545 0
113 3626 0
114 3676 0
115 3728 0
116 3735 0
117 3741 0
118 3834 0
119 3847 0
120 3997 0
121 4155 0
122 4192 0
123 4206 0
124 4280 0
125 4295 0
126 4298 0
127 4301 0
128 4328 0
129 4335 0
130 4346 0
131 4354 0
132 4364 0

I'll continue to update the rankings throughout the season. Good luck teams!

2789_B_Garcia

03-03-2014, 23:43

Thanks for crunching the numbers!

AllenGregoryIV

03-03-2014, 23:48

Thank you for doing this, we all need to get ready for the transition to districts and this helps.

I-DOG

03-03-2014, 23:57

Thank you for doing this, we all need to get ready for the transition to districts and this helps.

"Districts ARE coming to Texas whether you're ready for them or not." - Koko Ed Alamo Regional 2014

AllenGregoryIV

04-03-2014, 00:04

"Districts ARE coming to Texas whether you're ready for them or not." - Koko Ed Alamo Regional 2014

Oh I've been ready. I'm just glad you're getting everyone else prepared.

geomapguy

04-03-2014, 00:05

"Districts ARE coming to Texas whether you're ready for them or not." - Koko Ed Alamo Regional 2014

Wish they'd include Louisiana :)

safiq10

04-03-2014, 00:07

Should I be excited or terrified?

Danny Diaz

04-03-2014, 00:10

Cool - I didn't know 418 is the lowest numbered team that hasn't yet played a game. We're gonna solve that in Arkansas, though. Wish us luck. :)

-Danny

Xavbro

04-03-2014, 01:37

"Districts ARE coming to Texas whether you're ready for them or not." - Koko Ed Alamo Regional 2014

I feel like we've been ready with how Texas Robot Roundup has grown over the years. :)

Wish they'd include Louisiana :)

That would be nice in my opinion. Louisiana only has one regional and some really good teams. You could include Oklahoma and Arkansas too. Maybe even New Mexico!!

Joe Ross

04-03-2014, 04:24

I get different points for 653 and 4332. The FIRST website has 653 with 4 wins and 4332 with 3 wins, for 8 and 6 points respectively, rather then 10 and 8.

Basel A

04-03-2014, 04:56

If people want to do this for other states/regions, this may be helpful: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2798
It's the same thing I made last year for this purpose, allows you to see what events teams are attending with the option to filter by location (state/province, country, district region affiliation).

I-DOG

04-03-2014, 12:26

I get different points for 653 and 4332. The FIRST website has 653 with 4 wins and 4332 with 3 wins, for 8 and 6 points respectively, rather then 10 and 8.

Thanks for the correction! I figured out what I was doing wrong in excel. I'll see if there are any more errors like that.

EDIT: The reason for the error was because they were a no show in one or more of their matches, thus they did not get the win for said match. When I post the Week 2 update the errors will be fixed.

Joe Ross

04-03-2014, 16:06

EDIT: The reason for the error was because they were a no show in one or more of their matches, thus they did not get the win for said match. When I post the Week 2 update the errors will be fixed.

It's unfortunate that FIRST doesn't give you enough data to recreate the standings.

I-DOG

09-03-2014, 15:04

Good afternoon Texas. I have finished the week two rankings for Texas. Enjoy.

Rank Team Points
1 2468 137
2 624 81
3 1817 78
4 4063 72
5 118 71
6 148 54
7 5320 51
8 3103 50
9 418 48
10 3626 41
11 3741 40
12 1801 39
13 3305 38
14 4587 35
15 2158 32
16 2789 30
17 2881 30
18 2936 30
19 4694 30
20 5052 30
21 3614 29
22 457 27
23 2613 27
24 4852 27
25 3335 25
26 3999 25
27 5047 25
28 1429 23
29 3481 23
30 4412 23
31 5103 23
32 231 18
33 3320 18
34 4570 17
35 4981 16
36 5241 16
37 4597 15
38 4696 15
39 4717 15
40 4301 14
41 3417 13
42 4734 13
43 4747 13
44 4853 13
45 704 12
46 2969 12
47 3497 12
48 3561 12
49 2833 11
50 4610 11
51 4798 11
52 4799 11
53 57 10
54 2966 10
55 3029 10
56 3679 10
57 3700 10
58 3743 10
59 5057 10
60 5070 10
61 5212 10
62 5242 10
63 5261 10
64 5272 10
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
65 5287 10
66 5342 10
67 441 8
68 653 8
69 1255 8
70 2721 8
71 2965 8
72 3240 8
73 3350 8
74 3802 8
75 4219 8
76 4298 8
77 4378 8
78 4670 7
79 499 6
80 2805 6
81 2982 6
82 2985 6
83 3035 6
84 3037 6
85 3080 6
86 3345 6
87 3366 6
88 4332 6
89 4589 5
90 4639 5
91 4641 5
92 1642 4
93 2952 4
94 4206 2
95 647 0
96 1296 0
97 1477 0
98 1745 0
99 2582 0
100 2583 0
101 2585 0
102 2587 0
103 2747 0
104 2848 0
105 2882 0
106 2897 0
107 2950 0
108 3005 0
109 3016 0
110 3028 0
111 3043 0
112 3282 0
113 3310 0
114 3355 0
115 3370 0
116 3413 0
117 3545 0
118 3676 0
119 3728 0
120 3735 0
121 3834 0
122 3847 0
123 3997 0
124 4155 0
125 4192 0
126 4280 0
127 4295 0
128 4328 0
129 4335 0
130 4346 0
131 4354 0
132 4364 0

*Denotes that the team has played in two regionals.
Hub City had only one DQ so this week's rankings update was quite easy.

The Dallas regional is about to begin. I can't wait to see what happens with teams like 148, 359, 1477, 1817, 2415, 3310, 3847 attending.

Michael Blake

19-03-2014, 14:51

Will there be an update to these rankings for Week 3? Thanks!

--Michael Blake

Joe Ross

19-03-2014, 15:00

Here's what I get. Data pulled from http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127470

Rank Team Events Points
1 118 2 144
2 2468 2 137
3 148 2 129
4 1817 2 122
5 624 2 120
6 2158 2 94
7 4063 3 72
8 457 2 70
9 2848 1 60
10 231 2 59
11 3481 2 57
12 2789 2 56
13 5320 1 51
14 3103 1 50
15 418 1 48
16 5057 1 44
17 3626 1 41
18 3741 1 40
19 704 2 40
20 1801 1 39
21 3305 1 38
22 3847 1 37
23 1477 1 36
24 4587 1 35
25 3005 1 33
26 2881 1 30
27 2936 1 30
28 4694 1 30
29 5052 1 30
30 3614 1 29
31 5212 1 29
32 2950 1 28
33 2613 1 27
34 4852 1 27
35 1296 1 26
36 3335 1 25
37 3999 1 25
38 5047 1 25
39 3310 1 24
40 1429 1 23
41 4412 1 23
42 5103 1 23
43 5242 1 22
44 3802 2 22
45 3997 1 20
46 4206 2 19
47 3320 1 18
48 5272 1 18
49 4570 1 17
50 3735 1 17
51 4981 1 16
52 5241 1 16
53 4597 1 15
54 4696 1 15
55 4717 1 15
56 4589 1 15
57 2587 1 15
58 4301 1 14
59 3282 1 14
60 3417 1 13
61 4734 1 13
62 4747 1 13
63 4853 1 13
64 4641 1 13
---- ---- ---- ----
65 2805 2 13
66 2969 1 12
67 3497 1 12
68 3561 1 12
69 1642 2 12
70 2833 1 11
71 4610 1 11
72 4798 1 11
73 4799 1 11
74 5070 0 10
75 5261 0 10
76 5287 0 10
77 5342 0 10
78 57 1 10
79 2966 1 10
80 3029 1 10
81 3679 1 10
82 3700 1 10
83 3743 1 10
84 647 1 10
85 3043 1 10
86 3676 1 10
87 441 1 8
88 653 1 8
89 1255 1 8
90 2721 1 8
91 2965 1 8
92 3240 1 8
93 3350 1 8
94 4219 1 8
95 4298 1 8
96 4378 1 8
97 3413 1 8
98 4335 1 8
99 4364 1 8
100 4670 1 7
101 499 1 6
102 2982 1 6
103 2985 1 6
104 3035 1 6
105 3037 1 6
106 3080 1 6
107 3345 1 6
108 3366 1 6
109 4332 1 6
110 2747 1 6
111 3355 1 6
112 3370 1 6
113 4354 1 6
114 4639 0 5
115 2952 1 4
116 4192 1 4
117 1745 0 0
118 2582 0 0
119 2583 0 0
120 2585 0 0
121 2882 0 0
122 2897 0 0
123 3016 0 0
124 3028 0 0
125 3545 0 0
126 3728 0 0
127 3834 0 0
128 4155 0 0
129 4280 0 0
130 4295 0 0
131 4328 0 0
132 4346 0 0

Mrcope9

19-03-2014, 21:53

Wish they'd include Louisiana :)

It will be a sad day indeed when we can't compete with our Western border friends. Still up in the air when the whole country goes to district models.

geomapguy

19-03-2014, 22:10

It will be a sad day indeed when we can't compete with our Western border friends. Still up in the air when the whole country goes to district models.

So true......132 from Texas and 30 teams from Louisiana.

One district event around NOLA and another by Lake Charles would work well to bring in a mix of teams...might as well through in the southern Mississippi teams as well.

TheRamAlakazaam

19-03-2014, 23:59

Oh cool rank 12.

Michael Blake

20-03-2014, 10:25

3481 being ranked 11th of 132 after 1 and 2/3 regionals without a working shooter, we're pleased.

Since we've got the "firing" mechanism now worked-out (THANKS 359 Hawaiian Kids/Uncle Mel and NASA machine shop and 148 Robowranglers/VEXPro for the parts) I think with tuning and practice over the next 2 weeks we'll be able to improve our ranking.

Looking forward to slamming it hard at Lone Star!!

--Michael Blake

Xavbro

20-03-2014, 14:33

So true......132 from Texas and 30 teams from Louisiana.

One district event around NOLA and another by Lake Charles would work well to bring in a mix of teams...might as well through in the southern Mississippi teams as well.

I agree. I think including Louisiana and Mississippi with Texas would work great. There's already going to have to be a lot of driving just in Texas for the districts, why not add a few hours to Nola or L.C.?

Greg Needel

20-03-2014, 14:39

I agree. I think including Louisiana and Mississippi with Texas would work great. There's already going to have to be a lot of driving just in Texas for the districts, why not add a few hours to Nola or L.C.?

By that logic why don't we also include Arkansas, Oklahoma and New Mexico also... One of the major points of districts is to get local teams talking and playing more with each other in order to strengthen a the teams in the area. For a state this size it makes sense just to make it TX and have a TX state championship.

If teams still want to go play in other states and areas, nothing prevents teams from doing it. How many teams from Mississippi and Louisiana come to Texas events already (not many)?

geomapguy

20-03-2014, 18:49

By that logic why don't we also include Arkansas, Oklahoma and New Mexico also... One of the major points of districts is to get local teams talking and playing more with each other in order to strengthen a the teams in the area. For a state this size it makes sense just to make it TX and have a TX state championship.

If teams still want to go play in other states and areas, nothing prevents teams from doing it. How many teams from Mississippi and Louisiana come to Texas events already (not many)?

2011:
Dallas - 3666

2012:
Lone Star - 364, 1818, 3337
Alamo - 2080

2013:
Lone Star - 3666, 3672

2014:
Alamo - 3337
Dallas - 3616

4 teams from LA/MS just came back from Orlando and 3 teams went to Arkansas. (We're also making the hike to OKC next week). What's to say that teams won't travel if they have the opportunity to go to multiple events for $5000 and 3 for $6000. Just thinking out loud here.

There's already going to have to be a lot of driving just in Texas for the districts, why not add a few hours to Nola or L.C.?
Right it's only 2 from Houston to L.C. and 5 from Houston to NOLA. Whereas it's 6 from Lubbock to Austin (good location for TX Champ.)

AllenGregoryIV

20-03-2014, 18:56

2011:
Dallas - 3666

2012:
Lone Star - 364, 1818, 3337
Alamo - 2080

2013:
Lone Star - 3666, 3672

2014:
Alamo - 3337
Dallas - 3616

4 teams from LA/MS just came back from Orlando and 3 teams went to Arkansas. (We're also making the hike to OKC next week). What's to say that teams won't travel if they have the opportunity to go to multiple events for $5000 and 3 for $6000. Just thinking out loud here.

I would love to be on the other side of this issues but I'm not. When Texas goes to districts it's going to have to be only Texas teams. Our goal is grow the program and if we succeed we would need to split the district in a few years anyway. It doesn't make much sense to set up an infrastructure that we are just going to abend once we get to many teams. Yes I'm going to miss competing at Bayou but we can still trade volunteers and eventually FRC will have interdistrict play. We'll just have to wait a few years.

Mrcope9

20-03-2014, 21:21

I would love to be on the other side of this issues but I'm not. When Texas goes to districts it's going to have to be only Texas teams. Our goal is grow the program and if we succeed we would need to split the district in a few years anyway. It doesn't make much sense to set up an infrastructure that we are just going to abend once we get to many teams. Yes I'm going to miss competing at Bayou but we can still trade volunteers and eventually FRC will have interdistrict play. We'll just have to wait a few years.

Yeah, I have to agree with you. FRC in Texas is simply different than Louisiana and Mississippi. With the number of teams growing rapidly, soon to reach the multiple hundreds and having 4 regionals, it's time for you all to branch off and grow your own state league. Honestly, if we were to bring our robot to Lone Star this year, it would be like throwing it to the wolves. Eventually, the districts will reach us all and hopefully Louisiana and Mississippi will give rise to teams like the Robowranglers, Texas Torque, Robonauts, and so forth. All the gracious profesionalism will be greatly missed, including team 3847.
I guess it's just a part of FIRST growing up.

BBray_T1296

20-03-2014, 21:26

Looking forward to slamming it hard at Lone Star!!

Nope. That's a foul now

AllenGregoryIV

20-03-2014, 21:29

Yeah, I have to agree with you. FRC in Texas is simply different than Louisiana and Mississippi. With the number of teams growing rapidly, soon to reach the multiple hundreds and having 4 regionals, it's time for you all to branch off and grow your own state league. Honestly, if we were to bring our robot to Lone Star this year, it would be like throwing it to the wolves. Eventually, the districts will reach us all and hopefully Louisiana and Mississippi will give rise to teams like the Robowranglers, Texas Torque, Robonauts, and so forth. All the gracious profesionalism will be greatly missed, including team 3847.
I guess it's just a part of FIRST growing up.

Come to think of it, there is nothing stopping Texas teams from playing at Bayou once we move to districts. I imagine you will still get some Texas alliance members in the future.

Mrcope9

20-03-2014, 21:36

Come to think of it, there is nothing stopping Texas teams from playing at Bayou once we move to districts. I imagine you will still get some Texas alliance members in the future.

Sure hope so. We said at some point our team would make it to a Texas regional, but as for now our dreams are delayed. But hey, there's always RedStick Rumble, and we might even journey out to the Texas Robot Roundup over the summer.

geomapguy

20-03-2014, 21:54

Yeah, I have to agree with you. FRC in Texas is simply different than Louisiana and Mississippi. With the number of teams growing rapidly, soon to reach the multiple hundreds and having 4 regionals, it's time for you all to branch off and grow your own state league. Honestly, if we were to bring our robot to Lone Star this year, it would be like throwing it to the wolves. Eventually, the districts will reach us all and hopefully Louisiana and Mississippi will give rise to teams like the Robowranglers, Texas Torque, Robonauts, and so forth. All the gracious profesionalism will be greatly missed, including team 3847.
I guess it's just a part of FIRST growing up.

Yeah competition is tough in Texas......we need to ramp up the competition in Louisiana. There's only 3 teams north of Lafayette....it's rough up here.

Whippet

20-03-2014, 22:26

Anyone know what the horizontal line in the middle of the rankings is for?

geomapguy

20-03-2014, 22:27

Anyone know what the horizontal line in the middle of the rankings is for?

theoretical cutoff for TX Champ

Whippet

20-03-2014, 22:30

theoretical cutoff for TX Champ

An, that makes sense. I feel a lot better now that we would qualify for district championships if they existed. :D

geomapguy

20-03-2014, 22:32

An, that makes sense. I feel a lot better now that we would qualify for district championships if they existed. :D

well Lone Star still hasn't occurred so not sure if you guys would :ahh:

Michael Blake

20-03-2014, 22:53

An, that makes sense. I feel a lot better now that we would qualify for district championships if they existed. :D

Not totally sure if this is correct when implemented... but I was told the cut-off for WORLD CHAMPS would be at 16 for Texas when District Model was rolled-out.

--Michael Blake

Michael Blake

20-03-2014, 22:58

Nope. That's a foul now

DANG! LOL

--Michael Blake

cgmv123

20-03-2014, 23:21

Not totally sure if this is correct when implemented... but I was told the cut-off for WORLD CHAMPS would be at 16 for Texas when District Model was rolled-out.

The line represents the cut off for the Texas Championship, not the FIRST Championship. The Texas Championship is its own event.

Michael Blake

21-03-2014, 01:50

The line represents the cut off for the Texas Championship, not the FIRST Championship. The Texas Championship is its own event.

Right... but I was commenting on WORLD CHAMPS eligibility for Texas District when implemented.

My fault, wasn't clear enough...

--Michael Blake

I-DOG

25-03-2014, 12:50

Many thanks to Joe for updating the rankings while I was away on spring break.

Even though no Texas teams played in week 4, I do have a slight update to the rankings due to an error I found in qualification match 87 of the Dallas Regional. This match was not a surrogate match, but because of an error the results were not reflected in the winning team's qualification seed score. I have corrected the teams affected by this glitch.(704, 4206, 4354)

Rank Team Events Points
1 118 2 144
2 2468 2 137
3 148 2 129
4 1817 2 122
5 624 2 120
6 2158 2 94
7 4063 2 72
8 457 2 70
9 2848 1 60
10 231 2 59
11 3481 2 57
12 2789 2 56
13 5320 1 51
14 3103 1 50
15 418 1 48
16 5057 1 44
17 704 2 42
18 3626 1 41
19 3741 1 40
20 1801 1 39
21 3305 1 38
22 3847 1 37
23 1477 1 36
24 4587 1 35
25 3005 1 33
26 2881 1 30
27 2936 1 30
28 4694 1 30
29 5052 1 30
30 3614 1 29
31 5212 1 29
32 2950 1 28
33 2613 1 27
34 3735 1 27
35 4852 1 27
36 1296 1 26
37 3335 1 25
38 3999 1 25
39 5047 1 25
40 3310 1 24
41 1429 1 23
42 4412 1 23
43 5103 1 23
44 3802 2 22
45 5242 1 22
46 4206 2 21
47 3997 1 20
48 3320 1 18
49 5272 1 18
50 4570 1 17
51 4981 1 16
52 5241 1 16
53 2587 1 15
54 4589 1 15
55 4597 1 15
56 4696 1 15
57 4717 1 15
58 1642 2 14
59 3282 1 14
60 4301 1 14
61 2805 2 13
62 3417 1 13
63 4641 1 13
64 4734 1 13
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
65 4747 1 13
66 4853 1 13
67 2969 1 12
68 3497 1 12
69 3561 1 12
70 2833 1 11
71 4610 1 11
72 4798 1 11
73 4799 1 11
74 57 1 10
75 647 1 10
76 2966 1 10
77 3029 1 10
78 3043 1 10
79 3676 1 10
80 3679 1 10
81 3700 1 10
82 3743 1 10
83 5070 0 10
84 5261 0 10
85 5287 0 10
86 5342 0 10
87 441 1 8
88 653 1 8
89 1255 1 8
90 2721 1 8
91 2965 1 8
92 3240 1 8
93 3350 1 8
94 3413 1 8
95 4219 1 8
96 4298 1 8
97 4335 1 8
98 4354 1 8
99 4364 1 8
100 4378 1 8
101 4670 1 7
102 499 1 6
103 2747 1 6
104 2982 1 6
105 2985 1 6
106 3035 1 6
107 3037 1 6
108 3080 1 6
109 3345 1 6
110 3355 1 6
111 3366 1 6
112 3370 1 6
113 4332 1 6
114 4639 0 5
115 2952 1 4
116 4192 1 4
117 1745 0 0
118 2582 0 0
119 2583 0 0
120 2585 0 0
121 2882 0 0
122 2897 0 0
123 3016 0 0
124 3028 0 0
125 3545 0 0
126 3728 0 0
127 3834 0 0
128 4155 0 0
129 4280 0 0
130 4295 0 0
131 4328 0 0
132 4346 0 0

Joe Ross

29-03-2014, 15:10

Can you double check 3735's points. I calculated 17 (14 win points and 3 draft points, 0 elim, award, or rookie points), you have 27.

For 1642, I have 8 win points at dallas and 4 at Alamo, you have 14 points total.

I-DOG

29-03-2014, 22:02

Here is the week 5 update.

Next week expect the tie breakers to be implemented for the top 70~ teams.

Rank Team Events Points
1 118 2 144
2 2468 2 137
3 148 2 129
4 1817 2 122
5 624 2 120
6 2158 2 94
7 4063 2 72
8 457 2 70
9 2950 2 64
10 2848 1 60
11 231 2 59
12 3481 2 57
13 2789 2 56
14 5320 1 51
15 3103 1 50
16 1296 2 49
17 418 1 48
18 5057 1 44
19 704 2 42
20 3626 1 41
21 3741 1 40
22 1801 1 39
23 3305 1 38
24 3847 1 37
25 1477 1 36
26 4587 1 35
27 3005 1 33
28 2881 1 30
29 2936 1 30
30 4694 1 30
31 5052 1 30
32 3614 1 29
33 5212 1 29
34 2613 1 27
35 4852 1 27
36 3335 1 25
37 3999 1 25
38 5047 1 25
39 3310 1 24
40 1429 1 23
41 4412 1 23
42 5103 1 23
43 3802 2 22
44 5242 1 22
45 4206 2 21
46 3997 1 20
47 3320 1 18
48 5272 1 18
49 3735 1 17
50 4570 1 17
51 647 2 16
52 4981 1 16
53 5241 1 16
54 2587 1 15
55 4589 1 15
56 4597 1 15
57 4696 1 15
58 4717 1 15
59 3282 1 14
60 4301 1 14
61 2805 2 13
62 3417 1 13
63 4641 1 13
64 4734 1 13
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
65 4747 1 13
66 4853 1 13
67 1642 2 12
68 2969 1 12
69 3366 2 12
70 3497 1 12
71 3561 1 12
72 2833 1 11
73 4610 1 11
74 4798 1 11
75 4799 1 11
76 57 1 10
77 2966 1 10
78 3029 1 10
79 3043 1 10
80 3676 1 10
81 3679 1 10
82 3700 1 10
83 3743 1 10
84 5070 0 10
85 5261 0 10
86 5287 0 10
87 5342 0 10
88 441 1 8
89 653 1 8
90 1255 1 8
91 2721 1 8
92 2965 1 8
93 3240 1 8
94 3350 1 8
95 3413 1 8
96 4219 1 8
97 4298 1 8
98 4335 1 8
99 4354 1 8
100 4364 1 8
101 4378 1 8
102 4670 1 7
103 499 1 6
104 2747 1 6
105 2982 1 6
106 2985 1 6
107 3035 1 6
108 3037 1 6
109 3080 1 6
110 3345 1 6
111 3355 1 6
112 3370 1 6
113 4332 1 6
114 4639 0 5
115 2952 1 4
116 4192 1 4
117 1745 0 0
118 2582 0 0
119 2583 0 0
120 2585 0 0
121 2882 0 0
122 2897 0 0
123 3016 0 0
124 3028 0 0
125 3545 0 0
126 3728 0 0
127 3834 0 0
128 4155 0 0
129 4280 0 0
130 4295 0 0
131 4328 0 0
132 4346 0 0

Thank you Joe for that catch. 1642 was just a mistake I left in when correcting match 87. I couldn't find why 3735 was getting 10 extra points so the correction was done manually.

JohnSchneider

07-04-2014, 15:13

Excited for this to update!

I-DOG

07-04-2014, 15:21

Working on it. Here is a small preview.

Rank Team Events Points Tie Breaker
1 118 2 144
2 2468 2 137
3 148 2 129
4 1817 2 122
5 624 2 120
6 2848 2 99
7 1477 2 94 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
8 2158 2 94
9 3310 2 91 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
10 3847 2 91

I-DOG

07-04-2014, 16:58

Here is the week 6 and final update

Rank Team Events Points Tie Breaker
1 118 2 144
2 2468 2 137
3 148 2 129
4 1817 2 122
5 624 2 120
6 2848 2 99
7 1477 2 94 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
8 2158 2 94
9 3310 2 91 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
10 3847 2 91
11 3103 2 86
12 4063 2 72 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
13 4587 2 72
14 457 2 70
15 2950 2 64
16 418 2 63
17 231 2 59
18 3481 2 57 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
19 2881 2 57
20 3997 2 56 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
21 2789 2 56
22 5320 1 51 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
23 1801 2 51 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
24 3335 2 51
25 1296 2 49
26 3999 2 46
27 5057 1 44
28 704 2 42
29 3626 1 41
30 3741 1 40
31 3305 1 38
32 2585 1 37 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
33 4610 2 37
34 2936 2 36
35 4589 2 34
36 3005 1 33 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
37 2587 2 33 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
38 1429 2 33
39 57 2 32
40 4694 1 30 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
41 5052 1 30
42 3614 1 29 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
43 5212 1 29
44 4852 1 27 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
45 2613 1 27 1 - Total Elimination Round Performance Points
46 4570 2 27 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
47 3735 2 27
48 3834 1 25 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
49 5047 1 25
50 4412 1 23 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
51 5103 1 23
52 3802 2 22 5 - Total Qualification Round Win-Loss-Tie Points
53 5261 1 22 7 - Highest Individual Qualification Match Score
54 5242 1 22
55 4206 2 21 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
56 5287 1 19
57 3320 1 18 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
58 5272 1 18
59 2582 1 16 3 - Total Alliance Selection Results Points
60 3350 2 16 7 - Highest Individual Qualification Match
61 647 2 16 5 - Total Qualification Round Win-Loss-Tie Points
62 5241 1 16 7 - Highest Individual Qualification Match
63 4981 1 16
64 4696 1 15 7 - Highest Individual Qualification Match
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65 4717 1 15 7 - Highest Individual Qualification Match
66 4597 1 15
67 441 2 14
68 3282 1 14
69 4301 1 14
70 4346 1 14
71 2805 2 13
72 3417 1 13
73 4641 1 13
74 4734 1 13
75 4747 1 13
76 4853 1 13
77 653 2 12
78 1255 2 12
79 1642 2 12
80 2882 1 12
81 2969 1 12
82 3366 2 12
83 3497 1 12
84 3561 1 12
85 4295 1 12
86 4328 1 12
87 5070 1 12
88 2833 1 11
89 4798 1 11
90 4799 1 11
91 2583 1 10
92 2966 1 10
93 3016 1 10
94 3029 1 10
95 3043 1 10
96 3676 1 10
97 3679 1 10
98 3700 1 10
99 3728 1 10
100 3743 1 10
101 1745 1 8
102 2721 1 8
103 2897 1 8
104 2965 1 8
105 3240 1 8
106 3413 1 8
107 4155 1 8
108 4219 1 8
109 4298 1 8
110 4335 1 8
111 4354 1 8
112 4364 1 8
113 4378 1 8
114 4639 1 7
115 4670 1 7
116 499 1 6
117 2747 1 6
118 2982 1 6
119 2985 1 6
120 3028 1 6
121 3035 1 6
122 3037 1 6
123 3080 1 6
124 3345 1 6
125 3355 1 6
126 3370 1 6
127 3545 1 6
128 4332 1 6
129 2952 1 4
130 4192 1 4
131 4280 1 4

The top 64 teams from the ranking system would then face off in a Texas State Championship. 19 Texas teams have qualified for the FRC World Championship event this year. However, with only 131 teams, FiT would most likely only receive 17~19 qualifying slots for the FRC Championship. This year, it would seem that whether or not Texas actually moved to a district system would not affect the amount of teams that would represent Texas at World Championship.

Last year, having a FiT District System would have been beneficial to Texas. With 140ish teams, Texas would have fielded 18~20 teams at World Championship, but only 17 Texas teams qualified.

AllenGregoryIV

07-04-2014, 17:30

Thank you for putting this together and I really hope we get to districts soon because it's not just about getting the right amount of teams to the championship event it's about recognizing the best teams.

with only 131 teams, FiT would most likely only receive 17~19 qualifying slots for the FRC Championship.

With 140ish teams, Texas would have fielded 18~20 teams at World Championship, but only 17 Texas teams qualified.

This is the most important thing in your post. We need to figure out how to stop losing teams.

Kris Verdeyen

07-04-2014, 17:42

19 Texas teams have qualified for the FRC World Championship event this year.

I count 18, who am I missing?:

118 (Alamo, KC, LSR)
148 (Dallas, LSR)
418 (Arkansas EI)
457 (Dallas)
624 (Alamo, Alamo Chairman's)
1477 (Dallas Chairman's)
1817 (Hub City)
2158 (Alamo EI)
2468 (Hub City, Hub City Chairman's)
2848 (Dallas WC)
3103 (LSR EI)
3847 (LSR Chairman's)
4063 (Hub City)
5052 (Alamo RAS)
5057 (Dallas RAS)
5320 (Hub City)

2585 (LSR) Qualified but not yet registered
3997 (LSR WC) Qualified but not yet registered

Alamo had a winner from HI, Hub City's RAS was from China, Dallas had qualifiers from HI and GA, and LSR's RAS was from Mexico.

jbsmithtx

07-04-2014, 18:19

I believe you missed 3310, BlackHawk...
They won in Colorado this weekend

Kris Verdeyen

07-04-2014, 18:25

I believe you missed 3310, BlackHawk...
They won in Colorado this weekend

Excellent! Thanks. The list now:

118 (Alamo, KC, LSR)
148 (Dallas, LSR)
418 (Arkansas EI)
457 (Dallas)
624 (Alamo, Alamo Chairman's)
1477 (Dallas Chairman's)
1817 (Hub City)
2158 (Alamo EI)
2468 (Hub City, Hub City Chairman's)
2848 (Dallas WC)
3103 (LSR EI)
3847 (LSR Chairman's)
4063 (Hub City)
5052 (Alamo RAS)
5057 (Dallas RAS)
5320 (Hub City)

2585 (LSR) Qualified but not yet registered
3310 (Colorado) Qualified but not yet registered
3997 (LSR WC) Qualified but not yet registered

Anyone know if these three plan on going?

Abhishek R

07-04-2014, 18:32

Excellent! Thanks. The list now:

118 (Alamo, KC, LSR)
148 (Dallas, LSR)
418 (Arkansas EI)
457 (Dallas)
624 (Alamo, Alamo Chairman's)
1477 (Dallas Chairman's)
1817 (Hub City)
2158 (Alamo EI)
2468 (Hub City, Hub City Chairman's)
2848 (Dallas WC)
3103 (LSR EI)
3847 (LSR Chairman's)
4063 (Hub City)
5052 (Alamo RAS)
5057 (Dallas RAS)
5320 (Hub City)

2585 (LSR) Qualified but not yet registered
3310 (Colorado) Qualified but not yet registered
3997 (LSR WC) Qualified but not yet registered

Anyone know if these three plan on going?

I believe 3310 and 3397 are.

JohnSchneider

07-04-2014, 19:16

We're not that forgettable I hope.

And we should be going.

Texas looks to be strong both on the field and in the chairman's room at champs this year!

lynca

09-04-2014, 16:44

I think the district ranking system is a bit overrated ... but that's a whole different discussion.

For now,

I'm interested in a championship-level teams Texas teams that did not make Championship. I think too many teams in Texas are under the radar because of the giant PR balloon created by the big 4 Texas teams.

In no particular order, here is my list:
231 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/231/2014) - ranked 3 at LSR, ranked 6 at Dallas, made elims in all three events. Very solid robot with a two-ball autonomous.

3481 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/3481) - Bronc Botz - made finals at Dallas, elims in all three events, quality drivetrain and robot

1296 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/1296) - Full Metal Jackets - good shooter and collection system, made elims in both events.

704 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/704) - Warriors - Ranked 8th at Dallas - great team and robot

4587 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/4587) - Jersey Voltage - amazing 2nd year team , expect big things from 4587

2881 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/2881) - Lady Cans- one of the best dual collector robots in Texas. best live group performance at a Robotics event !

3005 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/3005) - RoboChargers- up and coming team, had one of their best years and great robot performance

3999 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/3999) - Shadetree Mechanics- solid passing robot that made elims at Alamo & LSR

3735 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/3735) - KlienBots should have made the elims at LSR , best robot in their team history

2936 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/2936) - Gatorzillas - amazing team , attempted swerve this year and a powerful shooter

3335 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/3335) - made elims at LSR & Alamo , best robot in their team history

1429 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/1429) - strong team with an ok robot this year. They tried to lay low for the elims at LSR, but sometimes it will make you miss elims.

3545 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/3545) - Stacey Robotics - good shooting robot. Should have made elims at LSR.

Kris Verdeyen

09-04-2014, 18:06

I'm interested in a championship-level teams Texas teams that did not make Championship. I think too many teams in Texas are under the radar because of the giant PR balloon created by the big 4 Texas teams.

2587 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/2587) ought to be on that list, too...

geomapguy

09-04-2014, 18:37

231 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/231/2014) - ranked 3 at LSR, ranked 6 at Dallas, made elims in all three events. Very solid robot with a two-ball autonomous.

.

*cough* Galileo Division Finalist in 2012 *cough*

Michael Blake

10-04-2014, 15:11

I-DOG

10-04-2014, 17:52

Thank you for putting this together and I really hope we get to districts soon because it's not just about getting the right amount of teams to the championship event it's about recognizing the best teams.

This is the most important thing in your post. We need to figure out how to stop losing teams.

I completely agree Allen. How would you suggest we go about solving this dilemma? There are man factors that go into team sustainability that can't be solved by having a neighboring team give you money, time, etc.

Take for instance the problem west Texas is currently facing. With the recent increase of teams from 2 to 9, we face a number of issues. The Lubbock area simply does not have the resources (both in sponsors and in mentors) to support this many teams effectively. I estimate half of them would disband if FIRST in Texas stopped their sponsorship of these teams. And, correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe that most of these teams will lose that sponsorship due being older than 2 years after this season.

AllenGregoryIV

10-04-2014, 18:01

I completely agree Allen. How would you suggest we go about solving this dilemma? There are man factors that go into team sustainability that can't be solved by having a neighboring team give you money, time, etc.

Take for instance the problem west Texas is currently facing. With the recent increase of teams from 2 to 9, we face a number of issues. The Lubbock area simply does not have the resources (both in sponsors and in mentors) to support this many teams effectively. I estimate half of them would disband if FIRST in Texas stopped their sponsorship of these teams. And, correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe that most of these teams will lose that sponsorship due being older than 2 years after this season.

FIRST in Texas isn't only for 2 year teams. We have been supported by FiT for the past 4 years I believe (at least 3, I wasn't here the first year).

Money is a hard problem. I haven't heard of too many Texas teams that just go through the phone book and call for support. I have heard of other teams doing that before.

wireties

10-04-2014, 20:08

This is one of many threads that include a discussion about keeping Texas teams alive. Sharing money and time are, as stated earlier in this thread, really band-aids. They may get a team through a Thursday or even a season. But what is it that makes a team sustainable? Organization, mentors, fund-raising, local school support? Is there any way the established teams can help with such things? Can FIRST in Texas act as a conduit for any formal programs/actions/relationships to solve this problem?

Just thinking out loud...

JohnSchneider

11-04-2014, 00:28

Money is a hard problem. I haven't heard of too many Texas teams that just go through the phone book and call for support. I have heard of other teams doing that before.

We've done that to no avail. And rockwall/heath is a pretty affluent area with tons of engineers from L3 coms in greenville who live there. I feel like people are less likely to just give money to strangers over the phone though. :rolleyes:

lynca

17-04-2014, 14:16

We have 18 Texas teams represented at the Championship.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlcTDw-CQAAhJH3.png

Here are my picks for who will make it to elims (10 out of 18 teams ! ) .

Locks: 118 , 148 , 624 , 1477, 3310

Potentials: 1817 , 3847 , 2468

Dark Horses: 2158 , 2848

Texas teams did very well last year in eliminations, I predict at least two teams from Texas will make Einstein this year!

Mr. Rip

17-04-2014, 15:03

Money is a hard problem. I haven't heard of too many Texas teams that just go through the phone book and call for support. I have heard of other teams doing that before.

Maybe it's time Texas school districts look at funding FIRST Robotics as a full-fledged extracurricular activity. This will be easier when we go to the District model where you get more than one event for $5000.

It does not take many people with deep pockets pushing for change at the state level for it to happen. Most of you can't remember school without "No Pass No Play" but that seemed to happen almost overnight when Ross Perot made it an issue.

Mr. Rip

Coach Norm

17-04-2014, 15:32

Maybe it's time Texas school districts look at funding FIRST Robotics as a full-fledged extracurricular activity. This will be easier when we go to the District model where you get more than one event for $5000.

It does not take many people with deep pockets pushing for change at the state level for it to happen. Most of you can't remember school without "No Pass No Play" but that seemed to happen almost overnight when Ross Perot made it an issue.

Mr. Rip

I like the idea of Robotics being a full-fledged extracurricular activity but we need to be careful about getting the State and/or UIL involvement. We do not want to fall under the 8 hour a week limitation.

Going to the district model will definitely be better in terms of cost at least to attend two events. I know there will be some extra costs for travel for the teams that do not attend two events right now. BUT I think the return on the investment for those teams will be much appreciated.

I do agree with you Scott, that getting deep pockets involved is very important to make changes.

Coach Norm

17-04-2014, 15:35

We have 18 Texas teams represented at the Championship.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlcTDw-CQAAhJH3.png

Potentials: 1817 , 3847 , 2468

We are hoping to make this potential come true. We are very excited about the opportunity.

itsjustmrb

17-04-2014, 16:01

I like the idea of Robotics being a full-fledged extracurricular activity but we need to be careful about getting the State and/or UIL involvement. We do not want to fall under the 8 hour a week limitation.

Actually we still fall under the 8 hour limit if you follow the UIL/TEA side by side rules, which apply to all extra curricular activities. see Http://www.uiltexas.org/policy/tea-uil-side-by-side.

The way some of us skirt the letter of the law is that the 8 hours a week only applies from the beginning of school Monday to after school Thursday.

wireties

17-04-2014, 19:44

Actually we still fall under the 8 hour limit if you follow the UIL/TEA side by side rules, which apply to all extra curricular activities. see Http://www.uiltexas.org/policy/tea-uil-side-by-side.

The way some of us skirt the letter of the law is that the 8 hours a week only applies from the beginning of school Monday to after school Thursday.

I had no idea about the 8-hour rule. We couldn't meet that from Monday early PM to Tuesday late PM!

Yikes!

wireties

17-04-2014, 19:54

Hey Texas teams - please stop by our presentation in room 230, 5PM on Wednesday the 23rd. The topic is "Real-Time Software in FRC Robotics".

Topics include:

- Hard/soft real-time - temporal restraints, engineering methods etc
- Real time operating systems - basic properties, IRQ and scheduling latency, what is a task?
- Synchronization & Mutual Exclusion - semaphores, messages and delays
- What is running on the robot? - BSP, OS, WPI & multi-tasking applications
- Standard Practices - avoiding dynamic allocation, C++ dos and donts, formatted output, init then loop, resource reclamation, state machines
- Analysis - simplified RMA equations, looking at DS message task, multiple PID classes and a drive task
- WPI templates - Basic, Command-based, Robot Builder, custom methods - Q&A

We do expensive week-long corporate training on these subjects (using VxWorks and Linux) - drop by and get a quick taste for free!