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joemost
23-03-2014, 09:49
Hey Guys,

My team (138) just got back from the Rhode Island District Event and we had a blast. In honesty it wasn't our best event, but we did okay.

I noticed that at this event, whenever a team shot the ball over the truss it added ten points to their cycle, regardless of whether or not they got it in to the goal after the fact.
However... at the Granite State District even in Nashua NH during week 1, you would only get the truss points if you scored.

Did one of the competitions do it wrong? Was a rule changed in between week 1 and week 4?

To be honest, we lost a playoff match on a buzzer beater truss shot from the other team, which is why I am curious to know whats the deal with that rule.

Thanks,
Joe

Jay O'Donnell
23-03-2014, 10:05
Hey Guys,

My team (138) just got back from the Rhode Island District Event and we had a blast. In honesty it wasn't our best event, but we did okay.

I noticed that at this event, whenever a team shot the ball over the truss it added ten points to their cycle, regardless of whether or not they got it in to the goal after the fact.
However... at the Granite State District even in Nashua NH during week 1, you would only get the truss points if you scored.

Did one of the competitions do it wrong? Was a rule changed in between week 1 and week 4?

To be honest, we lost a playoff match on a buzzer beater truss shot from the other team, which is why I am curious to know whats the deal with that rule.

Thanks,
Joe
Truss points count immediately, it doesn't matter if they were scored afterwards. I was also at Nashua and can guarantee you that they were scoring it immediately.

joemost
23-03-2014, 10:06
Truss points count immediately, it doesn't matter if they were scored afterwards. I was also at Nashua and can guarantee you that they were scoring it immediately.

Really, wow maybe I just overlooked it the whole time then haha. Well thankyou

Calvin Hartley
23-03-2014, 10:07
The relevant rule:

A BALL is considered SCORED over the TRUSS if a ROBOT causes a BALL to pass though the infinitely tall plane that is bounded by the top of the TRUSS and the TRUSS POLES toward the ALLIANCE'S GOALS (e.g. a red BALL towards the red GOALS). This plane is depicted in yellow in Figure 3-3.

Note, it makes no mention of a ball having to be scored in a goal to be counted.

Edxu
31-03-2014, 12:20
Truss and Catch points are awarded as they happen, allowing a team to gain a burst of points in the last few seconds of the match, possibly winning for them.

However, Assist and goal points are awarded only when the ball is scored into the goal.

bachster
31-03-2014, 13:23
Remember that you cannot score truss points on auto balls, and you can only get truss points once per cycle. It may have been that teams were shooting the auto balls over the truss without realizing this wouldn't count for points, or shooting the same ball over the truss more than once, which is why 10 points were not added after those actions.

rich2202
31-03-2014, 15:50
Also, truss points are "awarded" when the Ref enters it on the terminal, and the scoring system acknowledges it. The Ref may be watching for something, and not enter the score right away.