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kyle601630
24-03-2014, 21:29
I was wondering if you receive qualification points at a 3rd competition for any award you win there.

It says in the FRC Standard District Points Ranking System(link below):

"District Teams participating in three or more district events during the season do not earn points for their actions at any
district events that follow the first two they attend chronologically, though they will still be eligible for awards at those
later events, and any benefits that go along with winning those awards. As an example, this would include the
automatic bye to the District Championship for winning the Chairman’s Award."

My understanding is you cannot earn points from any "actions", so like qualification and elimination matches, but you still receive any benefit that goes with an award. Qualification points is a what I consider a benefit to awards. Is this correct? Or do these benefits only apply to prestigious awards such as EI or Chairman's?

And is the Chairman's Award still an automatic bye to the states competition, even if earned at a 3rd competition?

FRC Standard District Points Ranking System:
http://www.firstinmichigan.org/FRC_2014/District_Standard_Points_Ranking_System.pdf

Thanks for any help!! :D

orangemoore
24-03-2014, 21:38
This passage near the end of the document answers your question.

Third District Event Participation
District Teams participating in three or more district events during the season do not earn points for their actions at any
district events that follow the first two they attend chronologically, though they will still be eligible for awards at those
later events, and any benefits that go along with winning those awards. As an example, this would include the
automatic bye to the District Championship for winning the Chairman’s Award.

Anthony Galea
24-03-2014, 21:49
The idea seems really clear. You can only earn points and in this case advance with the Chairman's Award with your first two events. Since there were no notes of exceptions to the Chairman's Award or any others I would assume that you do not get an automatic advancement at your third event.

though they will still be eligible for awards at those
later events, and any benefits that go along with winning those awards. As an example, this would include the
automatic bye to the District Championship for winning the Chairman’s Award."

Emphasis mine

Firstly, I know there are teams competing for Chairmans award at Bedford, which would for them be their third event.

I am not the Q&A, but I would guess that because you can only accrue points at your first two events, this quoted section refers to DCA, EI, and RAS, where DCA allows robot advancement to the District Championship, while EI and RAS allow award advancement, and if a team wins EI or RAS at the District Championship, they advance to the World Championship. I think this is how it works.

Also, to confirm the DCA bye: http://www.usfirst.org/comment/1318#comment-1318

orangemoore
24-03-2014, 21:54
Emphasis mine

Firstly, I know there are teams competing for Chairmans award at Bedford, which would for them be their third event.

I am not the Q&A, but I would guess that because you can only accrue points at your first two events, this quoted section refers to DCA, EI, and RAS, where DCA allows robot advancement to the District Championship, while EI and RAS allow award advancement, and if a team wins EI or RAS at the District Championship, they advance to the World Championship. I think this is how it works.

Also, to confirm the DCA bye: http://www.usfirst.org/comment/1318#comment-1318

I realized I had made a mistake and changed my post to the passage near the end.