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notmattlythgoe
16-04-2014, 14:29
Here is the 2014 Galileo Division courtesy of Ty.
45 TechnoKats Robotics Team
67 The HOT Team
70 More Martians
79 Team Krunch
126 Gael Force
148 Robowranglers
176 Aces High
179 The Children of the Swamp
188 Blizzard
193 MORT Beta
217 ThunderChickens
225 TechFire
228 GUS Robotics
303 TEST Team 303
337 Hard Working Hard Hats
353 POBots
365 Miracle Workerz
384 Sparky 384
488 Team XBot
494 Martians
558 Robo Squad
604 Quixilver
766 M-A Bears
771 SWAT
836 The RoboBees
857 Superior Roboworks
862 Lightning Robotics
869 Power Cord 869
884 Mechanical Mules
955 CV Robotics
973 Greybots
1011 CRUSH
1023 Bedford Express
1108 Panther Robotics
1153 Robo-Rebels
1218 Vulcan Robotics
1266 The Devil Duckies
1310 RUNNYMEDE ROBOTICS
1318 Issaquah Robotics Society
1334 Red Devils
1515 MorTorq
1610 B.O.T. (Builders of Tomorrow)
1683 Techno Titans
1717 D'Penguineers
1730 Team Driven
1756 Argos
1775 Tigerbytes
1885 ILITE Robotics
2052 KnightKrawler
2122 Team Tators
2135 Presentation Invasion
2177 The Robettes
2337 EngiNERDs
2363 Triple Helix
2424 Robot Mafia
2471 Team Mean Machine
2481 Roboteers
2642 Pitt Pirates
2665 CougarBots
2974 Walton Robotics
2980 The Whidbey Island Wild Cats
3008 Falcons
3098 The Captains
3103 Iron Plaid
3138 Innovators Robotics
3191 The Wingnuts
3309 Friarbots
3310 Black Hawk Robotics
3316 D-Bug
3360 Hyperion
3480 ABTOMAT
3504 Girls of Steel
3683 Team Dave
3937 Breakaway
4060 S.W.A.G.
4063 TriKzR4Kidz
4176 Iron Tigers
4256 Cyborg Cats
4288 Worcester Beach Bots
4476 W.A.F.F.L.E.S.
4488 ShockWave
4536 MinuteBots
4719 Bulldogs
4917 Sir Lancer Bots
4940 Knight Vision
4945 Titanium-Wrecks
4965 FIRE
4967 That ONE Team - Our Next Engineers
4979 DevilStorm Robotics
4982 Olympus Robotics
4985 elkSPLOSION
4991 Horsepower
5012 Gryffingear
5098 STING - R
5122 robOTies
5137 Iron Kodiaks
5145 WolfBotics
5148 New Berlin Blitz
BrennanB
16-04-2014, 14:35
4476 is looking forward to mixing things up on Galileo this year!
mrmummert
16-04-2014, 14:35
Hey well well....Hope were with you guys (2363)and not against you.
Guess we have something to talk about with 384 on the bus.
I see a lot of familiar teams.
Mike Marandola
16-04-2014, 14:36
Lots of great teams and tons of MAR teams. Looks pretty tough.
2481 is super excited to be returning to Galileo this year! Good luck to everyone and we'll see you on the field!
Thad House
16-04-2014, 14:38
Oh man 4488 is ready to come light up Galileo. Lets make it 4 in a row.
Jim Wilks
16-04-2014, 14:38
1334 is extremely pumped about playing at Championship this year. Good luck to all on Galileo!
Thad House
16-04-2014, 14:46
Also, the PNW is well represented. By my count, I see 7. 488, 955, 1318, 2471, 2980, 4060 and 4488. Let's finally bring home a division and Einstein for the PNW.
Jeff Pahl
16-04-2014, 14:47
5148 is thrilled to be making our first appearance at Championship and can't wait to see all the superb teams in the Galileo division!!
Conor Ryan
16-04-2014, 14:57
4991 is proud to be the new guy at this party, we even brought our Robot!
On a personal note, this will be the 5th time I've been to Galileo with a 3rd team, I think I have a favorite.
GALI
I count 8 Canadians from a cursary glance.
188
771
1310
1334
3360
3683
4476
4917
ykarkason
16-04-2014, 15:07
3316 is looking forward to play! Can't wait to see some of the best teams around!
FRC558 is ready to bring some New England flavor to the mix, happy to be playing with some old friends, are ready to make new ones.
The RoboBees are ready and excited. See everyone in a week!
Safe travels.
5148 is thrilled to be making our first appearance at Championship and can't wait to see all the superb teams in the Galileo division!!
Hey, rooks! Looking forward to the return of the vac! ;) If you need any assistance or advice on what's going on amongst the massive amount of chaos (that can typically be among the first impressions when you get to championships), just stop by our pit and we'll do our best to help you guys out. Good luck and we'll see you there!
Ben Martin
16-04-2014, 15:11
Lots of MAR teams on Galileo--
193
225
303
365
869
1218
225 is looking forward to seeing everyone there!
gafftron
16-04-2014, 15:13
1153 is psyched to make our first appearance on Galileo. It's gonna be a great division.
stingray27
16-04-2014, 15:14
Breakdown of Galileo by max OPR:
67 118.404136
148 112.7646517
225 108.3500436
3937 108.1752918
3683 105.9612361
1756 100.7667814
4488 100.0769288
2337 97.07089796
2363 96.49184445
179 93.36383039
3310 92.29389045
1023 90.80361973
836 89.25850286
384 88.55748892
1318 87.56061026
2481 87.47831667
1108 87.14871466
862 87.00736487
70 86.84064594
1775 86.47606465
188 86.41442833
3098 86.36894696
1730 82.70884299
488 81.76635408
1218 81.40300058
494 81.30228946
973 80.47535932
193 79.67485696
45 78.00776121
857 77.13756868
1334 76.53355778
79 76.50549262
2122 76.42735564
126 76.21387362
1717 75.3250098
3360 74.72870658
1683 73.23638081
2974 73.03514719
2052 72.5893709
176 72.22640948
558 70.55565203
4476 70.11847128
1310 68.51885651
217 66.67226329
4063 66.62752012
955 66.34086395
4917 65.17676943
4256 62.21403001
4967 62.20112227
1885 62.15949459
1610 61.248968
3316 58.9646893
2471 56.90725743
5122 56.20765187
228 56.05121733
3309 55.91918597
1153 55.42524416
3103 55.18175149
365 53.5916419
2642 50.88084356
1266 49.42551612
869 46.18940324
2665 45.99767954
4982 45.84879269
3138 45.55839179
337 44.53624544
604 44.32974417
3504 44.06434858
1515 42.59398348
2177 41.22012098
4288 39.93215994
303 39.44585382
4536 38.05776211
1011 35.38607717
3008 34.09043488
5145 34.08109879
353 33.55392722
4945 29.3398607
2424 26.66205226
5012 25.49963089
4719 25.38805144
4991 24.60672195
2980 23.26209433
4940 20.127028
771 19.99357907
3480 17.70830634
4965 17.43057818
2135 15.38621343
5137 15.08410776
4176 14.74670352
4060 13.7168225
5148 10.32771601
766 10.29136878
5098 9.835868732
884 9.761396207
4979 9.684838493
4985 2.361390558
3191 1.504172513
More details to follow in a white paper
Jeff Pahl
16-04-2014, 15:18
Hey, rooks! Looking forward to the return of the vac! ;) If you need any assistance or advice on what's going on amongst the massive amount of chaos (that can typically be among the first impressions when you get to championships), just stop by our pit and we'll do our best to help you guys out. Good luck and we'll see you there!
Thanks! The vacuum is much improved over the regional (and so is the drive team)! See you next week!
Jon Stratis
16-04-2014, 15:23
Missed seeing you in MN this year Jeff... but at least our teams will be together at champs!
Christopher149
16-04-2014, 15:25
I'm amused that Martians and More Martians are in Galileo. And that 3 of the 4 Leoni teams are here (70, 494, 857). And this will be the third event where 862 is next to 857 in the pits (Esky, MSC, Galileo).
And... that ONE team!
notmattlythgoe
16-04-2014, 15:28
Triple Helix is looking forward to joining our friends from 384, 1610, and 1885 in representing VA in the Galileo Division this year. It will be great to compete with/against teams we have not had the opportunity to meet before.
4991 is proud to be the new guy at this party, we even brought our Robot!
On a personal note, this will be the 5th time I've been to Galileo with a 3rd team, I think I have a favorite.
GALI
BX is excited to be in Galileo with so many great teams! Looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new friends!
LEO
Breakaway3937
16-04-2014, 15:42
3937 is proud and honored to be back in the Championships. It is great to be with such outstanding and decorated teams. This is going to be very exciting with the overall depth of the competition on our field! Good luck to all the teams this year and "Let's Go Galileo"!
Dunngeon
16-04-2014, 15:43
Team 955 is super excited to be in this amazing division! Good Luck to all team, and Lets GO PNW!
pntbll1313
16-04-2014, 16:20
2052 Knightkrawler is ecstatic to be in Galileo this year! It will be fun to see some familiar faces (Like our championship elim partners from last year 225)! It will also be great to compete with some of our Minnesota friends 2177 The Robettes and 4536 MinuteBots :D
OrangeCataclysm
16-04-2014, 16:31
Been crunching some numbers, Galileo looks like it has a really good lineup! Here are the average and median (top) OPRs for the division. Got OPR data from stingray27's Advanced OPR and Statistics
Average: 58.72372561
Median: 62.18030843
To put this in perspective, Galileo has the second highest average OPR this year, and the highest median. But of course we can't just look at data to see who's gonna win. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing all the great matches that'll be played on the field!
(for comparison)
Archimedes
Average: 54.2554821
Median: 54.67173343
Newton
Average: 58.91559315
Median: 56.44185218
Curie
Average: 57.49642157
Median: 48.92273601
Conor Ryan
16-04-2014, 16:37
Galileo Representation at a Glance
99 Teams, 4 Countries, 37 States/Providences/Districts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Districts_of_Israel)/Administrative Regions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Mexico)
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Districts_of_Israel)USA 86
Canada 10
Israel 1
Mexico 1
California 10
Michigan 10
Ontario 8
Texas 5
Washington 5
Virginia 4
Pennsylvania 4
Missouri 4
AcesPease
16-04-2014, 16:37
Aces High is excited to return to Championships.
theawesome1730
16-04-2014, 17:36
Galileo Representation at a Glance
99 Teams, 4 Countries, 37 States/Providences/Districts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Districts_of_Israel)/Administrative Regions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Mexico)
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Districts_of_Israel)USA 86
Canada 10
Israel 1
Mexico 1
California 10
Michigan 10
Ontario 8
Texas 5
Washington 5
Virginia 4
Pennsylvania 4
Missouri 4
You are missing 1 Kansas. 1108
Edit: I now see you were ranking by most attendees. My mistake
Clinton Bolinger
16-04-2014, 17:44
Galileo 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Event Scouting
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtxIhsQViWmSdEdPTTB4VnpPSlZYUmw5LUpGQ3h4d EE&usp=sharing
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns J-R.
If you have questions about filling out the document please don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Thad House
16-04-2014, 17:48
Galileo 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Event Scouting
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtxIhsQViWmSdEdPTTB4VnpPSlZYUmw5LUpGQ3h4d EE&usp=sharing
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns J-R.
If you have questions about filling out the document please don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
I'm trying to add our information, and its telling us its set to view only.
Also, what is the rating criteria for J-R?
MARS_James
16-04-2014, 17:49
Galileo 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Event Scouting
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtxIhsQViWmSdEdPTTB4VnpPSlZYUmw5LUpGQ3h4d EE&usp=sharing
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns J-R.
If you have questions about filling out the document please don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Few questions:
Rank 1-10 means what?
Kiss Pass means what?
0 is no 1 is yes but what is H?
and Finally I think you left in the Matches tab from something else
Clinton Bolinger
16-04-2014, 17:52
I'm trying to add our information, and its telling us its set to view only.
Also, what is the rating criteria for J-R?
Fixed.
Sorry about that.
Galileo 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Event Scouting
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtxIhsQViWmSdEdPTTB4VnpPSlZYUmw5LUpGQ3h4d EE&usp=sharing
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns J-R.
If you have questions about filling out the document please don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Could you give a quick definition for what you're asking for in each column and a key for what you'd like the inputs to be? I'm assuming binary for most, but I notice an 'H' under truss (guessing that means to [H]uman player). Just want to make sure we can all avoid entering anything incorrectly. For example, what's your definition of a 'kiss pass' or a 'layup'? Just want to make sure everyone's on the same page as we enter information.
Thanks for setting this up! Should be a big help to all of our scout teams.
puneeth.meruva
16-04-2014, 17:55
We are extremely excited to attend our very first Championships and, hopefully, representing Indiana well.
Clinton Bolinger
16-04-2014, 17:55
Few questions:
Rank 1-10 means what?
Kiss Pass means what?
and Finally I think you left in the Matches tab from something else
Rank 1-10 is basically a grouping for the 100 teams in the division it is based of OPR.
Top 10 Team = Group 10
11-20 = Group 9
etc
Kiss Pass = Bumper to Bumper Pass between robots (Does your intake have to come outside your FP to pass the ball off)
0 = No, 1 = Yes, and H = Truss to Human
Ignore the Matches Tab (now deleted) I used my 2013 version as a template.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Clinton Bolinger
16-04-2014, 17:57
Could you give a quick definition for what you're asking for in each column and a key for what you'd like the inputs to be? I'm assuming binary for most, but I notice an 'H' under truss (guessing that means to [H]uman player). Just want to make sure we can all avoid entering anything incorrectly. For example, what's your definition of a 'kiss pass' or a 'layup'? Just want to make sure everyone's on the same page as we enter information.
Thanks for setting this up! Should be a big help to all of our scout teams.
Layup is a close shot near the 1 point goal and the goalie zone.
Kiss Pass = Bumper to Bumper Pass between robots (Does your intake have to come outside your FP to pass the ball off)
I will try to make a Key on a new tab.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Layup is a close shot near the 1 point goal and the goalie zone.
Kiss Pass = Bumper to Bumper Pass between robots (Does your intake have to come outside your FP to pass the ball off)
I will try to make a Key on a new tab.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Thanks for the clarification. That's what I was assuming, but you know what tends to happens when you assume... ;)
Clinton Bolinger
16-04-2014, 18:13
I have added a Key/Glossary Tab to the Google Doc.
Also added "Auto Balls" Column for the Maximum Ball(s) your robot can do in Auton.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Thanks Clinton! Wasn't sure how to mark our kiss pass. Can you add another setting just for us? HAHA... seriously though, we can successfully receive but not pass.. I marked 1 and put in comments receive only... If you want to change it to a 0 that is ok too!
Rjmartin127
16-04-2014, 19:08
45 is excited to return to the Galileo divisions. Certainly one of my favorite divisions. If anyone is in the business of trading shirts, I do have an extra 2014 TechnoKats shirt in Large that I would like to trade. PM me if there is any interest.
Galileo 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Event Scouting
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtxIhsQViWmSdEdPTTB4VnpPSlZYUmw5LUpGQ3h4d EE&usp=sharing
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns J-R.
If you have questions about filling out the document please don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Do you know of anything like this for the other divisions?
Dragonking
16-04-2014, 19:20
could you add some more drive train columns like motor number, shifting ability, max/min speed
Rjmartin127
16-04-2014, 19:21
Do you know of anything like this for the other divisions?
I know 1114 has a big scouting sheet, but it doesn't give more robot info than OPR. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128848
I know 1114 has a big scouting sheet, but it doesn't give more robot info than OPR. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128848
Ok, thanks.
MARS_James
16-04-2014, 19:40
Added a comment about TBA column being pointless and added 714 who is in our division but was not included on the sheet.
Edit: Looks like they were waitlisted and got in but i also added 5320 who were not on the sheet
Added a comment about TBA column being pointless and added 714 who is in our division but was not included on the sheet. On a side note does anyone know how 714 qualified for Champs?
Waitlist
Clinton Bolinger
16-04-2014, 20:55
Thanks Clinton! Wasn't sure how to mark our kiss pass. Can you add another setting just for us? HAHA... seriously though, we can successfully receive but not pass.. I marked 1 and put in comments receive only... If you want to change it to a 0 that is ok too!
Debbie,
I added the following to Kiss Pass:
0 = No, 1 = Yes Both(Give and Receive) G = Only Give, R = Only Receive
Thanks for the suggestion.
-Clinton-
Clinton Bolinger
16-04-2014, 20:59
could you add some more drive train columns like motor number, shifting ability, max/min speed
I added Drive Motors, Low Speed, and High Speed
If you only have one speed just put it in the Low Speed Column.
Thanks for the suggestion.
-Clinton-
Dunngeon
16-04-2014, 21:05
I added Drive Motors, Low Speed, and High Speed
If you only have one speed just put it in the Low Speed Column.
Thanks for the suggestion.
-Clinton-
Could you add the guidelines at the top of the sheet? Not everyone is going to read the entire thread to find out what each letter means.
Calvin Hartley
16-04-2014, 21:29
A guy on my team showed me this video. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rhV-7Xj70I)
GALI-
thatismytruck
16-04-2014, 21:40
AYYOOOOO!
LOL love the video
Jarren Harkema
16-04-2014, 22:00
I have been guilty of that...
On topic, 4967 can't wait to compete with you guys!
Debbie,
I added the following to Kiss Pass:
0 = No, 1 = Yes Both(Give and Receive) G = Only Give, R = Only Receive
Thanks for the suggestion.
-Clinton-
Thanks! You are awesome! Thanks for doing this! If there are a lot left and you would like, we can help you fill in this chart Wednesday.
JohnSchneider
16-04-2014, 22:37
Could we change catch to "only if you have in competition". It's a far more useful piece of data given how scarce catches really are in competition.
Clinton Bolinger
16-04-2014, 22:49
Could we change catch to "only if you have in competition". It's a far more useful piece of data given how scarce catches really are in competition.
Personally, catch isn't only about catching a ball from a robot for points. Teams that have catch features can also be a good bot for inbounding from the human players.
Feel free to post the number of catches at an event in the comment section.
-Clinton-
hannaners
16-04-2014, 23:27
MOE is excited to be in the Galileo division with so many of our fellow MAR teams! Looks like we're in for some interesting and tough matches - especially with 4 robots on an alliance in elims now. Good luck to everyone!
pntbll1313
17-04-2014, 00:03
Personally, catch isn't only about catching a ball from a robot for points. Teams that have catch features can also be a good bot for inbounding from the human players.
Although teams can be good at inbounding because they have a large loading area I don't necessarily think these are well correlated. A good inbounder needs to be able to quickly pass the ball out of its robot which is completely unrelated.
Tim Lehmann4967
17-04-2014, 08:21
Ohhh, man this is gonna be fun!
Let's keep the win streak rollin!
Clinton Bolinger
17-04-2014, 11:49
The following Teams have no data or partial data on the Galileo Pre-Event Scouting Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtxIhsQViWmSdEdPTTB4VnpPSlZYUmw5LUpGQ3h4d EE#gid=0
228
337
488 (3 Ball Auto but nothing else?)
714
766
869
884
1011
1266
1515
1756
1775
1885
2135
2177
2424
2642
2665
2974
2980
3103
3138
3191
3309
3480
4060
4176
4288
4719
4940
4965
4979
4985
5098
5137
5145
5320
The hope is by putting their number here, they might update the document. Please refer to the Key/Glossary Tab for any clarification.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Caleb Sykes
17-04-2014, 13:17
Team 4536 is super excited to be in Galileo. The kids are excited to see all of the amazing robots up close. It will be particularly interesting to see 148, since 148's reveal video was the first that many of the kids saw. Also looking forward to the chance to play with the other MN teams 2052 and 2177.
One of my first thoughts upon looking at the attending teams list was, "awesome, we're right next to 4488!"
Out of curiosity, are we the only double-sided intake robot? I checked as many teams as I could, and I didn't see any others.
Jeremy Germita
17-04-2014, 13:27
The following Teams have no data or partial data on the Galileo Pre-Event Scouting Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtxIhsQViWmSdEdPTTB4VnpPSlZYUmw5LUpGQ3h4d EE#gid=0
217
228
337
488 (3 Ball Auto but nothing else?)
714
766
869
884
973
1011
1108
1266
1515
1683
1717 (partial)
1756
1775
1885
2122
2135
2177
2424
2642
2665
2974
2980
3103
3138
3191
3309
3480
3937
4060
4176
4256
4288
4719
4940
4965
4979
4985
5012
5098
5122
5137
5145
5320
The hope is by putting their number here, they might update the document. Please refer to the Key/Glossary Tab for any clarification.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
Updated for Team 5012.
Galileo looks fun. Glad to be playing on the same field as friends on 2122, 973, and others!
Our entire team is incredibly excited to be on Galileo with you all.
@ Inkling, 488 from PNW is also a double-sided intake robot. I'm sure our teams will get to know each other very well in our few days there :)
Caleb Sykes
17-04-2014, 16:19
Our entire team is incredibly excited to be on Galileo with you all.
@ Inkling, 488 from PNW is also a double-sided intake robot. I'm sure our teams will get to know each other very well in our few days there :)
Cool! I also noticed that 1756 has a double-sided intake, so we are not alone like I had originally thought.
Brennan4256
17-04-2014, 23:03
Team 4256 is excited! if there is an scouting or strategy in the works for our division we would like to contribute.
Our entire team is incredibly excited to be on Galileo with you all.
@ Inkling, 488 from PNW is also a double-sided intake robot. I'm sure our teams will get to know each other very well in our few days there :)
I just updated our entry. I switched us from 3 ball to 2 ball auto because we haven't ever bothered to use the 3 ball auto in competition. Think of it like the secret menu at In and Out; it exists, but you'll have to ask nicely for us to try it. It's just not fast enough to warrant use at higher levels of play.
There's some chance our robot will be geared to go faster at CMP than it's been all season. We're playing with that change this weekend.
S.P.A.M.er 17
18-04-2014, 16:23
http://asset-d.soup.io/asset/1313/9902_dc6a.jpeg
I Would love to hear the Galileo Division singing this at some point.
Thad House
18-04-2014, 17:22
Preliminary match schedule is out. If it sticks, I like it alot. Plus if it sticks we are first match both Friday and Saturday. That would be fun.
Calvin Hartley
18-04-2014, 17:31
Click here (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2014/2014_FRC_CMP_Qual_Galileo_prelim.pdf) for the Preliminary schedule, mentioned above. (Here's a link (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/blog-Divisions-and-Preliminary-Match-Schedules) to Frank's blog post.)
stingray27
18-04-2014, 19:44
Predicted rankings based on max OPR:
Team Wins Losses Assists Auton Teleop Truss/Catch
3098 10 0 672 557 569 349
3683 10 0 581 445 821 397
494 9 1 634 645 490 383
1108 9 1 615 621 606 340
1318 9 1 548 685 620 299
4488 9 1 542 680 784 287
67 8 2 690 599 786 283
1610 8 2 634 537 648 279
1310 8 2 465 477 582 308
45 8 2 458 554 487 291
3309 8 2 458 558 376 420
2337 7 3 725 465 448 266
2052 7 3 718 514 431 377
558 7 3 707 579 255 282
148 7 3 696 513 630 264
1023 7 3 673 528 519 352
1730 7 3 664 506 498 345
1756 7 3 659 584 636 389
3937 7 3 614 567 748 339
365 7 3 596 517 501 320
973 7 3 589 473 575 381
862 7 3 587 459 897 241
857 7 3 564 517 481 341
3138 7 3 552 545 569 277
176 7 3 550 605 594 305
126 7 3 529 515 469 375
836 7 3 505 622 511 311
1218 7 3 501 488 745 301
70 7 4 467 503 791 386
1683 7 3 465 572 618 211
2481 6 4 686 538 525 241
2363 6 4 577 594 562 362
4967 6 4 573 600 517 204
1885 6 4 557 577 356 314
2122 6 4 555 582 393 437
1717 6 4 550 425 519 166
3504 6 4 517 517 427 274
353 6 5 510 413 613 286
1334 6 4 461 449 684 347
2471 6 4 424 489 485 301
4982 6 4 392 518 504 212
384 6 4 370 534 752 181
2642 6 4 347 530 458 290
3360 6 4 298 589 698 277
188 5 5 831 595 271 174
1775 5 5 712 524 426 377
193 5 5 675 583 349 253
488 5 5 579 525 464 243
79 5 5 579 444 603 272
217 5 5 571 536 436 216
2974 5 5 523 467 498 263
225 5 5 499 625 544 366
3008 5 5 456 453 401 167
4719 5 5 392 528 462 291
228 5 5 352 473 609 190
2980 5 5 351 481 510 262
1153 4 6 570 525 499 251
604 4 6 552 345 455 240
303 4 6 505 537 268 338
5145 4 6 501 404 413 300
4945 4 6 471 393 370 224
4060 4 6 463 295 341 162
4256 4 6 460 529 476 252
5012 4 6 456 410 405 195
955 4 6 453 551 508 272
3316 4 6 438 527 482 258
1266 4 6 425 449 541 210
2177 4 6 423 541 469 259
869 4 6 422 562 564 207
337 4 6 369 484 400 302
4965 4 6 331 386 372 209
2665 3 7 586 372 323 231
179 3 7 577 486 394 282
3103 3 7 563 466 460 269
4991 3 7 495 330 324 212
4476 3 7 487 399 581 242
3310 3 7 457 539 565 256
1515 3 7 456 548 307 294
4940 3 7 432 406 360 205
4063 3 7 426 534 378 331
4917 3 7 388 526 455 312
4176 3 7 379 430 453 219
2135 3 7 363 332 547 151
5137 3 7 361 337 397 261
4985 3 7 355 333 229 192
2424 3 7 326 519 285 231
1011 2 8 494 489 261 268
714 2 8 417 385 276 186
5122 2 8 411 517 368 282
766 2 8 380 330 391 127
5320 2 8 344 365 361 171
3191 2 8 330 351 340 145
3480 2 8 307 453 421 214
5148 2 8 288 403 431 240
4979 2 8 201 468 399 189
4536 1 9 550 384 259 213
4288 1 9 453 411 282 212
884 1 9 355 404 338 189
5098 1 9 347 434 177 147
771 1 9 311 318 343 170
Assist, Teleop, etc. points calculated by summing the assist, teleop, etc. OPRs of the 3 robots they play with for each match they play in.
The sub-OPRs for each team is from the regional the team scored their highest overall OPR at.
Thanks for posting that Michael. Do you have postable data on each predicted match?
EDIT: Nevermind, just found your paper.
The following Teams have no data or partial data on the Galileo Pre-Event Scouting Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtxIhsQViWmSdEdPTTB4VnpPSlZYUmw5LUpGQ3h4d EE#gid=0
228
337
488 (3 Ball Auto but nothing else?)
714
766
869
884
1011
1266
1515
1756
1775
1885
2135
2177
2424
2642
2665
2974
2980
3103
3138
3191
3309
3480
4060
4176
4288
4719
4940
4965
4979
4985
5098
5137
5145
5320
The hope is by putting their number here, they might update the document. Please refer to the Key/Glossary Tab for any clarification.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
I've updated a bit onto 4719's bot. There's a few unsure bits because of a massive clutch overhaul we did after our regionals; new parts = new specs.
The irregularities and unreliability of the clutch was one of the only reasons why our OPR is so low; We were out quite a bit trying to fix it. Now that we have newer CNC'd parts, we're praying it works better on the field and our specs change. Practice rounds have shown promise.
MARS_James
19-04-2014, 09:29
Predicted rankings based on max OPR:
Team Wins Losses Assists Auton Teleop Truss/Catch
179 3 7 577 486 394 282
10th best OPR in the division and can only pull a 3-7 curse you scheduling gods.
10th best OPR in the division and can only pull a 3-7 curse you scheduling gods.
The OPR predictor had us going like 5-7 and finishing 33rd in Boston. We went 9-3 and finished third. Take it for what it's worth. In this game OPR is not everything. Three bots, with good strategy, working together, can do what the OPR predictor says they can't.
JohnSchneider
19-04-2014, 10:31
10th best OPR in the division and can only pull a 3-7 curse you scheduling gods.
We're 11th and right there with you. But that's why they play the games.
Mike Schreiber
19-04-2014, 11:25
The OPR predictor had us going like 5-7 and finishing 33rd in Boston. We went 9-3 and finished third. Take it for what it's worth. In this game OPR is not everything. Three bots, with good strategy, working together, can do what the OPR predictor says they can't.
It's all about not getting penalties really, most of these matches should be within 1 cycle, especially if you're a high OPR bot and it says you'll lose.
I don't take OPR seriously this year after our match in Lansing where OPR had us losing by 100 pts, then we realized no one on the other team could actually score the ball.
10th best OPR in the division and can only pull a 3-7 curse you scheduling gods.
9th and we have 6-4.
As we found out at the Chesapeake regional OPR can be raised for teams that necessarily don't have that OPR if they have good qualification alliances.
brandon.cottrell
19-04-2014, 12:57
What we all have to keep in mind is that Championships is absolutely ridiculous. Nobody is really in control of their situation, not even the "power houses". In addition, this game is interesting in the way that unexpected things can happen. Nothing is really predictable.
AdamHeard
19-04-2014, 13:15
I added collumn T "Wheel/Tread". Please fill this out too! Examples are roughtop, mecanum, kop wheel, the various vex wheels, etc... Essentially looking for what kind of traction you have.
Thanks,
Adam
bobcroucher
19-04-2014, 13:46
Hi Galileo Partners,
Team 2471, Team Mean Machine is excited to be on Galileo. I ran some statistics and found that our strength of schedule is fairly average, ranking 61st hardest. I averaged our partners and our opposition using Ed Law's spreadsheet numbers for highest tournament OPR. The difficulty number is how many points higher your opponents are than your partners. Your own OPR is not included. Higher numbers represent a harder schedule. I see why Shockwave is happy with their schedule. :] Go PNW! You can find your results here:
Rank Team Partner Oppos Difficulty
1 179 40.78 62.19 21.41
2 3310 45.01 66.29 21.27
3 384 48.03 66.82 18.78
4 225 47.37 65.81 18.43
5 771 47.53 65.78 18.25
6 4288 47.09 60.78 13.68
7 5122 50.73 64.11 13.38
8 4917 50.79 63.91 13.11
9 4536 52.45 65.19 12.73
10 4476 50.62 62.81 12.19
11 2337 49.43 60.78 11.35
12 488 50.48 61.61 11.12
13 4063 50.7 61.78 11.08
14 188 51.76 62.52 10.76
15 3316 55.03 65.77 10.74
16 2974 52.14 61.77 9.62
17 5320 55.46 64.58 9.12
18 836 52.64 61.26 8.62
19 2665 53.14 60.76 7.61
20 337 56.1 63.08 6.98
21 4256 55.32 62.28 6.96
22 193 54.75 61.38 6.62
23 955 56.12 62.73 6.6
24 148 52.64 59.19 6.54
25 2424 54.96 61.25 6.29
26 1885 59 64.23 5.22
27 857 56.41 61.3 4.89
28 2642 55.77 60.32 4.54
29 1717 53.03 57.4 4.37
30 1011 60.03 63.92 3.88
31 3103 57.64 61.32 3.68
32 5137 61.29 64.91 3.61
33 5098 51.58 55.06 3.48
34 604 57.29 60.18 2.88
35 70 55.9 58.18 2.28
36 217 56.8 59.08 2.28
37 67 60.01 62.16 2.14
38 2481 56.01 57.91 1.89
39 766 57 58.59 1.58
40 884 60.83 62.29 1.46
41 4979 58.39 59.73 1.33
42 1515 59.44 60.15 0.7
43 3191 58.28 58.7 0.42
44 1683 58.56 58.76 0.19
45 2363 57.92 57.9 -0.02
46 4940 59.02 58.91 -0.12
47 228 56.18 55.79 -0.39
48 1730 59.37 58.9 -0.48
49 79 57.51 56.95 -0.56
50 3360 56.12 55.46 -0.67
51 1266 56.97 56.03 -0.94
52 3008 57.13 56.04 -1.09
53 4985 54.13 52.87 -1.26
54 4982 60.35 59.06 -1.29
55 5145 62.49 61.1 -1.39
56 2135 61.73 60.24 -1.5
57 126 55.74 54.12 -1.63
58 1775 60.46 58.82 -1.65
59 1310 63.07 60.86 -2.21
60 2177 63.78 61.56 -2.23
61 2471 57.34 55.12 -2.23
62 3480 62.99 60.52 -2.47
63 1334 58.26 55.23 -3.04
64 558 58.11 54.86 -3.26
65 303 62.97 59.52 -3.45
66 4945 58.01 54.45 -3.57
67 714 62.43 58.79 -3.65
68 1023 59.95 56.23 -3.72
69 1153 64.44 60.45 -4
70 4965 54.39 50.2 -4.2
71 2122 59.7 55.34 -4.37
72 4060 58.88 54.38 -4.5
73 973 62.38 57.62 -4.77
74 1218 61.9 56.97 -4.93
75 4991 57.29 52.29 -5
76 45 52.41 47.14 -5.27
77 1318 64.63 58.87 -5.76
78 3504 64.89 58.98 -5.92
79 2052 66.5 60.51 -5.99
80 176 69.18 62.97 -6.22
81 3683 59.14 52.77 -6.37
82 869 64.34 57.66 -6.68
83 5012 61.1 54.27 -6.83
84 3937 63.73 56.29 -7.44
85 353 64.65 56.51 -8.14
86 1756 64.24 55.89 -8.35
87 3098 66.13 57.66 -8.48
88 4176 67.84 58.77 -9.08
89 5148 63.72 52.62 -11.1
90 4967 64.61 53.45 -11.16
91 2980 69.56 57.04 -12.52
92 494 67.57 54.48 -13.1
93 862 67.89 54.6 -13.3
94 1108 66.6 53.3 -13.3
95 4488 65.18 50.12 -15.07
96 365 69.85 54.64 -15.22
97 3309 63.75 48.27 -15.48
98 4719 72.59 54.76 -17.83
99 3138 73.91 53.69 -20.22
100 1610 74.9 54.35 -20.55
avg OPR 58.64777914 Average Difficulty 0.0009
Standard Deviation 8.889776456
2 Standard Deviations 17.77955291
Hard Outliers:
1 179 40.78 62.19 21.41
2 3310 45.01 66.29 21.27
3 384 48.03 66.82 18.78
4 225 47.37 65.81 18.43
5 771 47.53 65.78 18.25
Easy Outliers:
98 4719 72.59 54.76 -17.83
99 3138 73.91 53.69 -20.22
100 1610 74.9 54.35 -20.55
AdamHeard
19-04-2014, 16:01
Please help in the hunt for pictures!
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1376429#post1376429
AdamHeard
19-04-2014, 16:21
Rank 1-10 is basically a grouping for the 100 teams in the division it is based of OPR.
Top 10 Team = Group 10
11-20 = Group 9
etc
Kiss Pass = Bumper to Bumper Pass between robots (Does your intake have to come outside your FP to pass the ball off)
0 = No, 1 = Yes, and H = Truss to Human
Ignore the Matches Tab (now deleted) I used my 2013 version as a template.
Thanks,
-Clinton-
For goalie pole it is just 0 or 1, what do you want us to do to indicate we can block shots over the low goals as well?
brandon.cottrell
19-04-2014, 17:16
We just noticed theres a very large gap between our first match (Quals 9 at ~9:48 AM) to our second match (Quals 33 at ~1:12 PM) which is after lunch. Looks like if we discover somethings wrong in our first match (Which is unlikely) we'll definetly have time to fix it.
mrmummert
19-04-2014, 18:04
I've been reading some of the posts...especially after the rankings based on OPR were posted and while its a nice thought...and i hope it happens....never say never.....OPR might be better suited for regionals and districts...but CMP being the wayit is always has been and can be very unpredictable. I really can't see predicting seedings based on OPR at CMP.
What OPR can't and doesn't tell you are things like what happens when a veteran driver gets sick and you put a timid rookie driver in...or if you lose communication during a match...or an alliance partner gets knocked over...or
your Power board goes out and you can't run in the next match while you fix it.
We've had things like this happen....
In our first year and our first year going to CMP we did pretty well after our regional at Va. But during our third match at CMP one of our joy sticks died on us....we didn't know why until later, but that was something going in we
didn't count on happening.
Last year we had a half decent robot and decided to try and improve it for CMP....well you know the old saying...if its not broke don't fix it....we ended up working almost the entire time at CMP to at least get it back to the way it was....well we started to work better in our last couple matches....and in our last match we thought we'd at least have a chance to win that one. We were with team 33...one of the "better" teams....the alliance had a plan...but during the match it fell apart and we didn't win that or any other match we had. Funny how our match schedule ranking is 100th....especially after coming in being ranked 100th in our division last year. Maybe First is giving us a break....who knows....
Even this year things happened we didn't expect....We went to Chesapeake and did pretty well. We were predicted to lose two matches though. A match we should have won we didn't and the one we were predicted to lose we won. In our second match on Saturday we fiqured we'd win it because we were doing good and we were with team 233 (yes that pink team from Florida)...We'll the first mistake was made even before the match started...and so were several others during the match. We ended up losing that match by only 6 points....Had we won it would have changed not only our seeding, but 233's...and that probably would have changed the outcome of eliminations at Chesapeake....
This is why i'm a bit leary of rankings by OPR.
like i said...i hope its true...but i'm prepared either way.
FRC OPR suffers from small sample size and inability to normalize across regionals or even weeks of play. It's outright ridiculous to think that it means anything tangible when it comes to ranking teams in a Division.
To put it in a different perspective, which would we rather have: OPR or Youtube? There are 4 solid days between now and Qual Match 1, so there is almost no excuse to use OPR for most teams come Thursday.
thatismytruck
19-04-2014, 18:46
FRC OPR suffers from small sample size and inability to normalize across regionals or even weeks of play. It's outright ridiculous to think that it means anything tangible when it comes to ranking teams in a Division.
To put it in a different perspective, which would we rather have: OPR or Youtube? There are 4 solid days between now and Qual Match 1, so there is almost no excuse to use OPR for most teams come Thursday.
In all competitions people talk stats. It's a way to attempt to predict how well one team or another will do. So, while I agree with the statement above, there is no way to stop the reading of the crystal ball.
I do recommend that everyone watch youtube though. :)
The attach PDF has every teams matches from the preliminary schedule by team each page of the report is its own team by number. Not sure if anyone will find it useful but wanted everyone to know Team 2642 - Pitt Pirates is looking forward to the competition on Galileo and wants to help everyone compete.
Dunngeon
19-04-2014, 19:32
One major thing to remember about OPR, is that it's a linear measure. When the game is non-linear (ie. Assists dependent upon robots) than OPR isn't a very useful metric. Last year was a decent use of OPR because the scoring progression was linear (Disks, goal, repeat, climb).
Our team uses OPR as a fun statistic to calculate, but we rely fully on our own scouting when creating a strategy and eliminations picks.
Hard Outliers:
1 179 40.78 62.19 21.41
2 3310 45.01 66.29 21.27
3 384 48.03 66.82 18.78
4 225 47.37 65.81 18.43
5 771 47.53 65.78 18.25
Easy Outliers:
98 4719 72.59 54.76 -17.83
99 3138 73.91 53.69 -20.22
100 1610 74.9 54.35 -20.55
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What are outliers?
JohnSchneider
19-04-2014, 23:32
What are outliers?
People will much easier or much harder schedules relative to the majority of teams.
Welcome to the outliers club :(
bobcroucher
19-04-2014, 23:36
What are outliers?
Outliers are teams that are outside the norm. They have significantly harder or easier match schedules than most teams. Statistics generally considers samples that are more than 2 standard deviations away from the average to be outliers. Since the standard deviation was 8.8 points, and the average was 0, any team with a difficulty higher than 17.6 points, or less than -17.6 points will qualify as outliers.::safety::
People will much easier or much harder schedules relative to the majority of teams.
Welcome to the outliers club :(
Awesome. The exact reply I was hoping not to receive:(
Ben Martin
20-04-2014, 16:54
Awesome. The exact reply I was hoping not to receive:(
It's a fun club :)
Get your strategies ready, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
Caleb Sykes
20-04-2014, 18:50
I have created an alternate strength of schedule calculation. Essentially, it is the minimum OPR required of a team to go 8-2 in qualifications.
For me personally, I don't really care about rank unless the rank is <12. Since teams with records 8-2 or better will likely exclusively make up this group, I created a metric to see how hard it would be for a given team to achieve this record. Unsurprisngly, if this value is less than a team's OPR, then they are predicted to go 8-2 or better. If this value is greater than a team's OPR, then they can know approximately how hard they will have to work to go 8-2 or better.
team # OPR required to go 8-2
1610 35.2
3138 48.1
5148 48.6
2980 52.8
3309 54.5
353 55.7
4945 58.7
494 60.5
4719 63.7
1310 67.1
4967 68
1318 70.1
45 70.3
3098 71.1
4965 71.2
3480 71.5
365 72.5
1108 73.4
4982 73.7
3504 77
3683 77.3
1266 78
4488 78
4991 78
714 80
1683 80.4
973 82.3
5098 82.8
3191 83.6
4060 85.1
3103 85.5
5012 85.6
176 85.8
228 88.5
862 89.6
1515 90.6
4176 91.5
869 93.8
1730 95.7
1218 95.8
2471 96
67 97.6
1775 98.3
79 98.6
2642 98.9
1717 99.7
5145 100.1
836 100.6
2122 100.7
4979 100.7
558 100.9
1334 101.2
188 101.7
2052 102
3008 102.4
126 104.9
3360 105.7
604 106.1
4940 108.1
2481 108.3
2665 108.5
217 108.9
2337 108.9
2424 109.2
884 109.5
1756 110.3
4985 110.4
488 110.8
2974 111.8
70 114.7
1023 118
4063 119
1011 119.1
5122 121.4
766 123
2177 123.1
4476 123.9
3316 126.5
2135 126.6
5137 126.9
2363 127.2
4917 127.2
955 128.1
857 130.5
4288 131
771 131.8
1153 132.2
3937 133.3
5320 133.3
193 133.4
225 135.5
179 137
303 138.3
148 141.4
3310 142
337 143.4
4256 144.8
4536 145.7
1885 150.1
384 154.6
average = 100.8
standard deviation = 26.5
I count 8 Canadians from a cursary glance.
188
771
1310
1334
3360
3683
4476
4917
Hey you missed the Calgary gang 4719 and 4334.
Hey you missed the Calgary gang 4719 and 4334.
4334 is on Curie
Hey you missed the Calgary gang 4719 and 4334.
Yep I missed you and 4940.
Laaba 80
21-04-2014, 01:42
I have created an alternate strength of schedule calculation. Essentially, it is the minimum OPR required of a team to go 8-2 in qualifications.
For me personally, I don't really care about rank unless the rank is <12. Since teams with records 8-2 or better will likely exclusively make up this group, I created a metric to see how hard it would be for a given team to achieve this record. Unsurprisngly, if this value is less than a team's OPR, then they are predicted to go 8-2 or better. If this value is greater than a team's OPR, then they can know approximately how hard they will have to work to go 8-2 or better.
team # OPR required to go 8-2
1610 35.2
3138 48.1
5148 48.6
2980 52.8
3309 54.5
353 55.7
4945 58.7
494 60.5
4719 63.7
1310 67.1
4967 68
1318 70.1
45 70.3
3098 71.1
4965 71.2
3480 71.5
365 72.5
1108 73.4
4982 73.7
3504 77
3683 77.3
1266 78
4488 78
4991 78
714 80
1683 80.4
973 82.3
5098 82.8
3191 83.6
4060 85.1
3103 85.5
5012 85.6
176 85.8
228 88.5
862 89.6
1515 90.6
4176 91.5
869 93.8
1730 95.7
1218 95.8
2471 96
67 97.6
1775 98.3
79 98.6
2642 98.9
1717 99.7
5145 100.1
836 100.6
2122 100.7
4979 100.7
558 100.9
1334 101.2
188 101.7
2052 102
3008 102.4
126 104.9
3360 105.7
604 106.1
4940 108.1
2481 108.3
2665 108.5
217 108.9
2337 108.9
2424 109.2
884 109.5
1756 110.3
4985 110.4
488 110.8
2974 111.8
70 114.7
1023 118
4063 119
1011 119.1
5122 121.4
766 123
2177 123.1
4476 123.9
3316 126.5
2135 126.6
5137 126.9
2363 127.2
4917 127.2
955 128.1
857 130.5
4288 131
771 131.8
1153 132.2
3937 133.3
5320 133.3
193 133.4
225 135.5
179 137
303 138.3
148 141.4
3310 142
337 143.4
4256 144.8
4536 145.7
1885 150.1
384 154.6
average = 100.8
standard deviation = 26.5
Wow. The difference from top to bottom is insane. Could you provide any more info about your process to get these numbers? When you are looking at team X, do you use max/world OPR for opponent Y's OPR, or is Y's OPR also based off what it takes to reach 8-2. This is a very interesting way to think about things, thanks for sharing it.
4334 is on Curie
My bad, what was I thinking. I know both our winning alliance partner 2013 and 4334 is on Curie.
I went ahead and added a column for intake type, as I believe this is a factor in passing and game piece collection.
Please provide input. Thanks.
Caleb Sykes
21-04-2014, 08:24
Wow. The difference from top to bottom is insane. Could you provide any more info about your process to get these numbers?
I found it very interesting as well. All of the data that I used came from the Galileo predictions (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/3003) document found here. Essentially, for each match in a team's schedule, I subtracted out said team's contribution and calculated their alliance's winning margin without them (which were largely negative). I then ordered these winning margins in ascending order. My value is simply the negative of the third number in this ordered list.
When you are looking at team X, do you use max/world OPR for opponent Y's OPR, or is Y's OPR also based off what it takes to reach 8-2. This is a very interesting way to think about things, thanks for sharing it.
In all of my calculations, I use the OPR from the above document (I believe this is max event OPR).
I'm not sure if I'm being clear enough. I would be happy to answer any other questions you have about this.
I found it very interesting as well. All of the data that I used came from the Galileo predictions (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/3003) document found here. Essentially, for each match in a team's schedule, I subtracted out said team's contribution and calculated their alliance's winning margin without them (which were largely negative). I then ordered these winning margins in ascending order. My value is simply the negative of the third number in this ordered list.
In all of my calculations, I use the OPR from the above document (I believe this is max event OPR).
I'm not sure if I'm being clear enough. I would be happy to answer any other questions you have about this.
Keep in mind the value of a goalie robot, the matches in where we were matched with two good shooters we (5137) won. There are lots of really good shooters at the finals. Might be a metric you want to calculate I think defense can be as good as offense by ruining cycles of the opposing alliance or at least delaying them significantly while our own alliance scores. We had a zero points in a match because all three robots were defense and two of our other losses was a broken robot in the mix...so that affected our overall stats at the regional but we made an impact and earned the rookie all star. Problem with defense only is we rely on two good offensive robots to provide scoring when that happens good things do. I think with all the offensive firepower at the championships...we will be fine.
Looking forward to St. Louis!
All of these new lists based upon OPR make me :rolleyes:.
I have scouted 1885's 20 alliance partners using the schedule currently posted and the video that is available (at least 6 matches per). My mentors & students will scout 1885's 30 opponents over the next 2 days. We start from the team's latest video (including elims) and work backwards in order to see the behaviors we will most likely see at Champs.
Data includes:
HG shots attempted, HG shots made, Inbound attempts, inbound successes, Auto ball attempts, auto ball successes, # of HOT goals, # of truss attempts, # of truss successes, # of trusses to HP or out of bounds, # of times a ball popped out of the robot during gameplay, rough estimate of intake time in seconds (also taking into account driver skills), rough estimate of favorite shooting distance, # of time effective defense was played on other teams, # of times the robot was pushed, # of times the robot was out of offensive position due to playing or receiving defense, # of obvious penalties, # of seconds of lost comms
Trivia: HOT is the 2nd most high goal scoring robot we play with on a per-match basis, but only by < 0.25 goals per match. Can anyone guess who the #1 high goal bot of the 20 is, statistically?
If anyone is willing to trade data on Wednesday, we will have plenty. This data isn't quite free since it took many labor hours to get. Yet if a team can even provide realistic statistics of their own team using the categories above and online video, we'd be more than willing to share all of what we have. The point of the trade is mutual hedging against schedule changes. Unfortunately the schools were out on Spring Break last week, so our ability to get all 100 teams' worth just wasn't there.
Nate Laverdure
21-04-2014, 09:02
Maybe next season I want to develop and test a new metric for FRC scouting: Bumper Quality Rating (BQR).
BQR-5: The platonic ideal of FRC bumpers. Fabric is snug and no wrinkles are visible; no extra material in the corners. Bumpers are installed or removed in one fluid motion. Milled slots or pockets in the plywood backing, sized for minor protrusions from the robot frame perimeter, allow the bumper frame to mate tightly against the robot.
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BQR-0: Moderate to heavy use of duct tape.
I believe BQR would outperform OPR as a predictor of on-field robot performance.
Calvin Hartley
21-04-2014, 09:29
Maybe next season I want to develop and test a new metric for FRC scouting: Bumper Quality Rating (BQR).....
This. This is awesome.
mrmummert
21-04-2014, 09:36
I think "BQR" would have worked at Chesapeake....I can't tell you
how many robots we saw that had saggy,wrinkled and poorly made
bumpers. We saw a few that had material dragging on the floor that
made me wonder how they ever got thru inspection. I recall one team
there hadn't even made bumpers until they got there.
brandon.cottrell
21-04-2014, 10:04
I think "BQR" would have worked at Chesapeake....I can't tell you
how many robots we saw that had saggy,wrinkled and poorly made
bumpers. We saw a few that had material dragging on the floor that
made me wonder how they ever got thru inspection. I recall one team
there hadn't even made bumpers until they got there.
Post-regional bumpers are the best kind of bumpers.
Laaba 80
21-04-2014, 13:30
I found it very interesting as well. All of the data that I used came from the Galileo predictions (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/3003) document found here. Essentially, for each match in a team's schedule, I subtracted out said team's contribution and calculated their alliance's winning margin without them (which were largely negative). I then ordered these winning margins in ascending order. My value is simply the negative of the third number in this ordered list.
In all of my calculations, I use the OPR from the above document (I believe this is max event OPR).
I'm not sure if I'm being clear enough. I would be happy to answer any other questions you have about this.
That's exactly what I wanted to know, and how I thought you got the numbers. Thanks.
Mr. Tatorscout
21-04-2014, 17:07
All of these new lists based upon OPR make me :rolleyes:.
I have scouted 1885's 20 alliance partners using the schedule currently posted and the video that is available (at least 6 matches per). My mentors & students will scout 1885's 30 opponents over the next 2 days. We start from the team's latest video (including elims) and work backwards in order to see the behaviors we will most likely see at Champs.
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Well done! I hope all of your legwork pays off (Except in match 31, of course;) ). Good Luck!
Pit map...
http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Events/2014/GALILEO-pits.pdf
Well done! I hope all of your legwork pays off (Except in match 31, of course;) ). Good Luck!
I think Match 31 is too close to call since the margin is small relative to how fast a single cycle can happen. Right now 857 & 2052's stats and play styles are almost identical, so we'll have to figure out who plays what position. Both look like great partners to have. That strategy will likely decide the match flow, and therefore the match. With the right teamwork, we could totally blow that match wide open :D - or not, if we fail to work together.
Christopher149
24-04-2014, 01:00
I think Match 31 is too close to call since the margin is small relative to how fast a single cycle can happen. Right now 857 & 2052's stats and play styles are almost identical, so we'll have to figure out who plays what position. Both look like great partners to have. That strategy will likely decide the match flow, and therefore the match. With the right teamwork, we could totally blow that match wide open :D - or not, if we fail to work together.
Well, here's to hoping we work well together, eh?
Did anyone else get video of Q3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UnbIfYoIVQ)? We want to edit together about 50 different perspectives of our human player taking one for the team at the end of autonomous. (He was fine, by the way.) Should make for a fun project on the bus ride home.
If you have raw video files, stop by our pit with an SD card...
Electronica1
24-04-2014, 23:31
Did anyone else get video of Q3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UnbIfYoIVQ)? We want to edit together about 50 different perspectives of our human player getting blasted in the face at the end of autonomous. (He was fine, by the way.) Should make for a fun project on the bus ride home.
If you have raw video files, stop by our pit with an SD card...
At least it wasn't Dean Kamen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnE0j69_gYk).
At least it wasn't Dean Kamen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnE0j69_gYk).
That was the first thing I thought of when it happened.
orthoravioli
25-04-2014, 13:33
Huge thanks to 217 Thunder Chickens for custom machining a replacement axle for us! Even knowing that their next match was against us. True gracious professionalism!
TechFire 225
Team 2363, Triple Helix, would like to extend our sincere thanks to team 67, HOT, for selecting us to be your fourth alliance partner in the Galileo Division. Also, our thanks to 973, the Greybots, and 2481, the Roboteers for being our alliance partners. It was great fun, and we appreciate the opportunity to have been part of your fantastic alliance. Thank you for seeing the value in our team's abilities!
We would also like to extend a shout-out to our Virginia friends, Sparky 384 for winning the Engineering Inspiration Award, and to 1885, ILITE Robotics for your Innovation in Controls Award. These were well-deserved!
KushP384
27-04-2014, 19:18
Team 2363, Triple Helix, would like to extend our sincere thanks to team 67, HOT, for selecting us to be your fourth alliance partner in the Galileo Division. Also, our thanks to 973, the Greybots, and 2481, the Roboteers for being our alliance partners. It was great fun, and we appreciate the opportunity to have been part of your fantastic alliance. Thank you for seeing the value in our team's abilities!
We would also like to extend a shout-out to our Virginia friends, Sparky 384 for winning the Engineering Inspiration Award, and to 1885, ILITE Robotics for your Innovation in Controls Award. These were well-deserved!
Thank you for the shout-out! You guys did absolutely amazing and we are truly proud of you guys! Making it to Einstein was not only a great feat, but an inspiration for VA FIRST teams such as ourselves. In addition, congratulations to team 1885 ILITE for their award! We are proud of both teams and hope to see even more Virginia FRC teams stepping up in the future! Also, We hope to see you at various offseason events! Lastly, thank you to all the teams that we got the honor to play with, against, and communicate with; it was very interesting seeing the diverse designs and team ideologies/methodologies across the country and globe! :D
Video of most Galileo matches is now up on our youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TripleHelix2363/videos
On behalf of Team 2481, The Roboteers, I would like to express our immense appreciation to our amazing alliance partners 67 The HOT Team, 973 Greybots, and 2363 Triple Helix. Collectively, we formed one hell of an alliance on that epic journey to Einstein Field. I still don't think the events of this past weekend have fully sunk in yet, but it's definitely an experience that noone on our team will ever forget.
To our great alliance captains, 67, thank you for giving us the opportunity to compete with you guys with the alliance selection and then believing in us to finish off our alliance's scoring cycles throughout our run through elims. It was an honor to work with you guys and we would jump at the chance to do it again in the future. As always, your robot design was truly inspiring and it was an absolute force out there on the field.
To the original goalie bot, 973, your defensive prowess was truly a terrifying force to be reckoned with. We were so glad to be sharing a bumper color with you guys when the defensive intensity of the competition hit it's peak. You guys are a true class act and we loved the opportunity to share the field with you regardless of if it was working with you guys throughout elims or against you guys in qualifications. Amazing robot and the precision of the goalie pole usage in autonomous was absolutely incredible. Similarly, we look forward to any opportunity to work together with you guys again in the future.
To the selfless backup, 2363, you guys had an amazing robot that would have been a major factor in elims. It was great to know that a team of your caliber had our backs if anything went horribly wrong out there on the field. It was a true pleasure to work with you guys and we'd love the opportunity to do so again in the future.
I would also like to say thanks to team 1717 for your advisement on improvements we could make moving forward to our swerve drive design. We were incredibly excited to get the chance to work with you guys and pick your brains a bit on the intricacies of swerve. We are obviously an infant team in this respect, but your advice, recommendations, and suggestions were greatly appreciated and will definitely help us improve moving forward. We wish you guys the best of luck and we hope we get the chance to cross paths again in the future.
I also have to give special shout outs to teams 4488 and 193. 4488, it is absolutely incredible what you guys have been able to accomplish as a second year team. Your entire team was a pleasure to both work with and compete against and it was an honor to face you in the finals. As you guys move forward, know you've got fans and support from 2481 in the midwest. 193, it was so much fun getting the opportunity to compete with you guys. What you guys are able to do as a JV team (essentially a prennial rookie) is truly inspiring. Similarly, you've also got fans in team 2481 that will be rooting you on whenever we see your number in the future.
Also, congratulations to 384 on your much deserved division Engineering Inspiration award! You guys were amazing and it was a pleasure to compete with you guys.
Congratulations to all the other award winners and every team that competed on the Galileo field. It was an honor to compete with you all.
notmattlythgoe
28-04-2014, 15:34
To the selfless backup, 2363, you guys had an amazing robot that would have been a major factor in elims. It was great to know that a team of your caliber had our backs if anything went horribly wrong out there on the field. It was a true pleasure to work with you guys and we'd love the opportunity to do so again in the future.
It was a truly enjoyable experience being down in the pits with this spectacular alliance. We were told on several occasions that the alliance was happy that we were there, our Field Coach was uses extensively, and we were told to voice any opinions on the alliance's strategy that we had. We truly felt a part of the alliance even though our robot was not on the field.
2481 you guys had a truly superb swerve drive and I was thoroughly impressed with how well it performed on the field. I hope to see more of it in the future.
We hope to work with any of you again in the future and look forward to hopefully doing it at worlds again next season.
JohnSchneider
28-04-2014, 15:47
Video of most Galileo matches is now up on our youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TripleHelix2363/videos
Qualifying 21 seems to be the incorrect video
Adam Freeman
28-04-2014, 16:32
WOW...what an emotional, up and down weekend. After finishing as Division Finalists in 2012 and 2013, we were putting a lot of pressure on ourselves to try to live up to our own expectations, and getting a chance to play in front of everyone in the Einstein field this year. To do so we knew we would have to play at our very best to get past all the great teams in Galileo.
Thank you and congratulations to all the teams in Galileo for a great weekend of matches!
To our alliance partners:
973 - After getting dominated by defense at MSC, we had an expected style of play that we wanted to achieve coming into Champ. We were watching your team very closely, knowing that you guys would be able to deliver some dominating defense if called upon. Needless to say, between the goalie pole and the drivers shutting down the other alliances scorers, you did not dissapoint. Watching and working with California teams always highlight how much attention to detail and how hard working you guys are. Adam provided another level of strategy discussion and analysis that I probably would not have thought of, with my coaching/strategy style.
2481 - WOW...should not have been available for us as a second round pick! We were entirely expecting to be required to handle the scoring load for our alliance. To be able to switch off to the truss role, knowing that you guys had the scoring handled, made our alliance extremely effective. Your swerve drive was incredible, moving flawlessly around the field to get open for the inbound, scoring, or defending the inbound/truss. Your pit crew worked extremely hard to ensure the machine performed every match through the eliminations and Einstein.
2363 - Same as 2481....should not have been around for us, but I'm gald you were! I would have been completely comfortable swapping your team onto the field and lining up against anyone that we played. I meant what I said that, we wanted you guys to be involved in any of the strategy discussions and let us know if there was something we were missing or you disagreed with. Your on-field coach (unfortunately, I don't remember her name) was incredibly helpful on the field. She was perfect at letting us know exactly what we going on during the match (time, score, how many assists on an opponents ball)....it was great to have her out there with us.
Congrats to 1153, 4488, 1318, and 1218 on finishing as Division Finalist. Very hard fought matches. We thought we had it after 2...but you guys forced us to prove it all the way to the end. Build from this finish to take the next step to Einstein.
Some additional shout outs...
We were fortunate enough to play with our good friends from Texas, 148 Robowranglers in our first qualification match. Unfortunately, we had another year in the same Division that we had to play against each other in eliminations. We love you guys! Looking forward to playing with you at IRI this year...:cool:
Thanks to Liz (FTA) and Dante (Head Ref) for dealing with us all weekend. It felt like we asked a lot of questions...we just wanted to make sure we knew exactly what was happening during our matches. Thanks to all the other volunteers as well.
Video of most Galileo matches is now up on our youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TripleHelix2363/videos
Thanks for doing this! Do you happen to have Q110? Somehow we didn't get that one video tapped, and I'd really like to watch it. Thanks Again!
BX had an awesome time with old friends and new friends! It was a lot of fun playing on Galileo with you all!
Kyle Stewart
28-04-2014, 17:42
On behalf of team 1717, I want to thank their fantastic Alliance partners, team 2122, 3683, and 193 for their talent, hard work, and assistance both on and off the field. I'd also like to congratulate our opponents 1756, 148, 558, and 3098 for their win in the Quarterfinals. You guys played extremely well and deserved your win. It's a shame those G12 foul points tied the match and kept us from going for a third round, I would have loved to see how it would play out.
Congratulations to Teams 67, 973, 2481, and 2363 for winning the Galileo Division and performing on Einstein. I would have loved to try our goalie dodging autonomous for real ;)
2481, I loved watching you guys play and appreciate the shout out. You played great on both offense and defense, and were our next choice had either of our alliance members been unavailable. I think things went well for you anyways :cool: I'm impressed that this was your first attempt at swerve, you guys did great and I look forward to your future iterations.
sailer99
29-04-2014, 15:04
The W.A.F.F.L.E.S. had a great time in the galileo division. Despite a not so easy schedule we were very happy with how we performed and hope to improve for next year.
Congrats to 67, 973, 2481 and 2363 on their division win and 384 on division EI. Thank you to all the teams for making this division very enjoyable to be a part of.
Photos taken during the elimination matches can be found here (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B95yIGrGMDxFN0xRUkxMbmlzTWs&usp=sharing) on google docs. You should be able to download full resolution files.
Tim Koch
02-05-2014, 23:50
Todd - Thanks for sharing these awesome pictures! Great camera work.
mrmummert
04-05-2014, 13:10
Congrats should go out once again to team 2363 for being Division winners. Matt Wilbur and the whole 2363 team should also be commended for helping us (1610) when our bus company cancelled on us and they ended up sharing a then very crowded bus with us and helped us get to (and from) St. Louis.
Todd thanks for sharing....Do you guys have video of match 137? I basically stayed in the pits the whole time we were there and didn't get to watch much of anything.
leeivyca
05-05-2014, 01:44
Video of most Galileo matches is now up on our youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TripleHelix2363/videos
Thanks from 766 for posting all the videos!
Thanks for doing this! Do you happen to have Q110? Somehow we didn't get that one video tapped, and I'd really like to watch it. Thanks Again!
BX had an awesome time with old friends and new friends! It was a lot of fun playing on Galileo with you all!
Debbie, I found this while searching for our matches
Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plUyfdNPKgs:)
AdamHeard
05-05-2014, 22:28
Better late than never!
I have a lot of teams I want to mention, and there are so many great ones, so please don't be offended if you're left out!
First, our partners.
67. When I was a little boy, 67 was already great. 10 years later, they’re still great. It was an awesome experience being able to work alongside such a great team as peers, and alongside a coach with such a great name ;).
2481. These guys were good. We were happy to get them as a steal, and then 67 and us both noticed in our scouting numbers they were the BEST finisher on our alliance. Their swerve was awesome (especially for a first attempt!) and was great for juking around defenders in the front zone.
2363 Coming into champs I knew these guys were good, and they performed well at champs. Unsure how they were around so late in the draft. It was bittersweet they never got play (good in that no one broke, bad in that no one got to see them perform in elims) but at least they got to play that practice match on einstein. As soon as selections were over I came over like a seagull with all sorts of requests for them to do, and they were totally down and eager to make it happen. They installed our spare blocker and got it running under cheesy vision in case we ever needed it. Their coach was AWESOME in the box, and was able to put up with and keep pace with the intensity Adam and I bring to elims at champs.
4488 I noticed these guys at their first district, and knew they’d so something special this year. They were one of my favorite teams in Galileo, and could make shots from almost anywhere with the slightest opening. Watch for these guys next year.
4967 It’s a bummer these guys missed elims, they played with us in one of our toughest matches and were instrumental in pulling off the upset. Great group of kids and mentors that made a capable machine, and backed it up with some real team players.
1717 It was nice to get a qual with you guys, seems like far more often we’re playing against each other! Bummer to see you guys go out in quarters with such a great machine.
notmattlythgoe
06-05-2014, 08:11
Better late than never!
I have a lot of teams I want to mention, and there are so many great ones, so please don't be offended if you're left out!
First, our partners.
67. When I was a little boy, 67 was already great. 10 years later, they’re still great. It was an awesome experience being able to work alongside such a great team as peers, and alongside a coach with such a great name ;).
2481. These guys were good. We were happy to get them as a steal, and then 67 and us both noticed in our scouting numbers they were the BEST finisher on our alliance. Their swerve was awesome (especially for a first attempt!) and was great for juking around defenders in the front zone.
2363 Coming into champs I knew these guys were good, and they performed well at champs. Unsure how they were around so late in the draft. It was bittersweet they never got play (good in that no one broke, bad in that no one got to see them perform in elims) but at least they got to play that practice match on einstein. As soon as selections were over I came over like a seagull with all sorts of requests for them to do, and they were totally down and eager to make it happen. They installed our spare blocker and got it running under cheesy vision in case we ever needed it. Their coach was AWESOME in the box, and was able to put up with and keep pace with the intensity Adam and I bring to elims at champs.
4488 I noticed these guys at their first district, and knew they’d so something special this year. They were one of my favorite teams in Galileo, and could make shots from almost anywhere with the slightest opening. Watch for these guys next year.
4967 It’s a bummer these guys missed elims, they played with us in one of our toughest matches and were instrumental in pulling off the upset. Great group of kids and mentors that made a capable machine, and backed it up with some real team players.
1717 It was nice to get a qual with you guys, seems like far more often we’re playing against each other! Bummer to see you guys go out in quarters with such a great machine.
Adam and 973,
The experience down on the field with you guys was amazing. It is very reassuring to know that we were so high on both 973's and 67's scouting lists. I was personally surprised we were still available as the 3rd pick, even with as well as we performed there is obviously some work we need to to at showcasing our team's capabilities. It was great being on an alliance with two consistently powerful teams like 973 and 67. I'm glad we were able to meet your requests for the small chance that we were needed, it was good to know that you had the confidence in us to be able to do it. I hope we were able to impress some people, as we are a pretty unknown team outside of our area.
I know this experience made our field coach's year as a senior. How's this for a senior year? Winning a regional as the field coach, being selected as a Dean's List finalist, being selected for eliminations at Championship, helping your alliance win the division, then getting to compete on Einstein. I know I'm a little jealous!
Having been that 4th team and not having the opportunity to put our robot on the field, I am a big supporter of the practice matches on Einstein. It was a great experience for our drive team to be able to play a match (even a very short one) in front of all 400 teams and showcase what they can do. It can be difficult to make that 4th alliance member feel a part of the alliance, and I think our alliance did a very good job of making us feel like we were equals.
I hope we are able to compete with you guys again in the future, hopefully this year was the turning point in turning us into a perennial Championship team.
P.S. I'm driving out to California and stealing your pit, you might want to lock that thing up real good.
BrennanB
20-05-2014, 09:28
Video of most Galileo matches is now up on our youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TripleHelix2363/videos
Does your archived video only go up to match 59? That seems to be all that is up online currently.
Does anyone have matches 146,167 or 56 that you could share?
Thanks
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