View Full Version : 2014 Newton Division
Here's the non-finalized team list, courtesy BaselA:
16 Newton
25 Newton
58 Newton
78 Newton
111 Newton
120 Newton
133 Newton
190 Newton
314 Newton
330 Newton
340 Newton
341 Newton
364 Newton
368 Newton
525 Newton
597 Newton
610 Newton
612 Newton
623 Newton
687 Newton
811 Newton
846 Newton
868 Newton
910 Newton
971 Newton
997 Newton
1014 Newton
1114 Newton
1126 Newton
1138 Newton
1156 Newton
1261 Newton
1285 Newton
1294 Newton
1305 Newton
1507 Newton
1511 Newton
1574 Newton
1592 Newton
1640 Newton
1678 Newton
1710 Newton
1731 Newton
1735 Newton
1806 Newton
1817 Newton
1983 Newton
1986 Newton
2035 Newton
2054 Newton
2081 Newton
2085 Newton
2283 Newton
2415 Newton
2486 Newton
2522 Newton
2614 Newton
2877 Newton
3018 Newton
3065 Newton
3147 Newton
3238 Newton
3256 Newton
3260 Newton
3284 Newton
3313 Newton
3528 Newton
3539 Newton
3602 Newton
3824 Newton
3847 Newton
3880 Newton
3928 Newton
4039 Newton
4061 Newton
4069 Newton
4269 Newton
4355 Newton
4391 Newton
4464 Newton
4481 Newton
4500 Newton
4645 Newton
4905 Newton
4941 Newton
4949 Newton
4997 Newton
5010 Newton
5016 Newton
5052 Newton
5057 Newton
5124 Newton
5136 Newton
5171 Newton
5188 Newton
5190 Newton
5291 Newton
5310 Newton
5339 Newton
Lots of great teams in this division, and the social media swirling around the division says it's stacked. Good luck to all the teams!
Orion.DeYoe
16-04-2014, 14:47
1114 and 1986 alliance anyone?
1114 and 1986 alliance anyone?
1114 and 368
This should be a fun time :cool:
Justin Montois
16-04-2014, 14:49
Team 340 is pumped to be playing in Newton once again!
I feel like it's our 8th time in the last 10 years or so. Newton feels like home!
Excited to be playing with some awesome Rochester area teams as well as some of the greatest teams in the world!
IISSAACCC!!!
eddie12390
16-04-2014, 14:52
Team 3260 is excited to be with so many great teams for our first championship appearance.
Bob Steele
16-04-2014, 15:04
Skunk Works (1983) is looking forward to stinking it up again on Newton!
Looking forward to playing with many of our friends!
Nice to see that several teams that we have direct connections to are on the same field!! 190, 1806, 1678, 971
and all of our friends from the PNW 997, 2522, 3238, 4061, 1294
(Good luck to our District Alliance partners 1318 (Galileo) 4060 (Galileo) and 2907 (Archimedes) you guys rock!!!
Andrew Lawrence
16-04-2014, 15:07
16 and 368 have to be allianced because those two swerves on the same side of the field will be dangerous.
Mike Rizzo
16-04-2014, 15:11
16 and 368 have to be allianced because those two swerves on the same side of the field will be dangerous.
16, 368, and 1640, all 3 are swerve, that would be insane to watch.
16, 368, and 1640, all 3 are swerve, that would be insane to watch.
my thoughts exactly!
we'll do our bests to duplicate this same effort on Galileo with 1717 and 2471. :)
Andrew Lawrence
16-04-2014, 15:14
16, 368, and 1640, all 3 are swerve, that would be insane to watch.
I would pay to see that alliance.
stingray27
16-04-2014, 15:21
Breakdown of Newton by max OPR:
1114 152.0597534
1986 119.0380519
16 107.6188357
3539 106.0154235
1507 103.7350637
910 101.0366156
610 100.504165
368 99.2284102
1731 97.60495813
971 94.54339219
1678 92.7257526
364 92.26588787
4039 91.76104022
3147 90.50182784
811 88.97607465
1261 88.88118159
58 88.05873478
3260 87.94093158
1138 86.57990548
1817 85.03123972
525 84.08878361
4061 82.68740055
3928 80.9305447
3824 79.71534516
3018 78.95943359
1592 78.37618673
846 77.72791439
3528 77.32462168
330 76.21449948
78 76.06449619
314 74.94851307
3284 73.1490712
2486 72.75170186
868 72.57738179
133 71.2766059
1511 70.41707834
25 68.55467375
1806 66.52361524
341 65.59892091
2085 65.05451417
2054 64.97493641
2283 63.26610868
1640 62.8261841
340 62.41984616
4069 61.94679238
3847 60.14383984
1126 59.69352989
2614 58.57076587
3238 56.44185218
2522 56.05268699
623 55.80929711
3602 55.16988981
1735 54.58211653
1285 54.36382892
190 53.8335219
3313 53.12183235
2877 52.67730663
111 52.64387897
2081 51.55417035
120 50.34178333
5188 49.40364472
997 48.54428087
1983 48.15848542
2035 47.8068509
4391 46.67132748
1574 46.31851898
2415 45.57294907
597 45.4491492
4269 41.85229643
5010 41.19879891
612 38.61543401
1156 36.19189244
1294 35.40954321
4464 33.33810314
3256 31.81011741
4997 31.56413267
5057 31.04253227
1014 30.8156623
5136 29.43409855
687 27.82278025
4941 27.79668714
1305 27.41613117
3065 26.58481871
4500 26.30634222
3880 24.61228096
5291 23.38592759
4481 23.19019836
5124 21.27005837
4355 20.04911485
5339 19.23785802
5190 18.3454185
4949 17.20024462
4905 15.49622501
1710 13.49598215
5052 10.8587637
5016 4.063629813
4645 0.999539506
More details to come in a white paper
ThunderousPrime
16-04-2014, 15:34
Anyone else notice that closeness in name and number between 971 Spartan Robotics and 997 Spartan Robotics? Let's hope no one gets confused like at IRI 2013 when 3476 and 3467 got mixed up during alliance selection.
AllenGregoryIV
16-04-2014, 15:35
Breakdown of Newton by max OPR:
More details to come in a white paper
Thanks for doing this. I think you're missing two teams.
5171 & 5310 don't seem to be on your list.
stingray27
16-04-2014, 15:39
Thanks for doing this. I think you're missing two teams.
5171 & 5310 don't seem to be on your list.
I noticed this too... They didn't seem to have OPR's in my database so I believe I am missing a regional...
I noticed this too... They didn't seem to have OPR's in my database so I believe I am missing a regional...
5310 is the RAS winner from MAR
TikiTech
16-04-2014, 15:57
Wow great looking division!
I looked out our match list.. I noticed that we only have 8 matches?!?
I thought the schedule change was to accommodate a 10 match schedule.
Anyone else seeing this?
I know that more than likely the list will change when we arrive.
Just wondering.
Good luck to all the teams!
Aloha!
Jeff Pahl
16-04-2014, 16:02
Wow great looking division!
I looked out our match list.. I noticed that we only have 8 matches?!?
I thought the schedule change was to accommodate a 10 match schedule.
Anyone else seeing this?
I know that more than likely the list will change when we arrive.
Just wondering.
Good luck to all the teams!
Aloha!
Are you looking at last year's match list? This year's will not be released until sometime at the event.
TikiTech
16-04-2014, 16:19
AHA!
That explains it.. I thought it looked familiar :yikes:
It was generated from the scheduler app. I was jumping the gun and didn't notice the disclaimer on the bottom..
My bad
Tyler_Kaplan
16-04-2014, 16:24
I'm really happy to see that we get to play with both 1678 and 971. Our team had so much fun playing against their alliance in the finals of Sacramento this year, happy to see that we get to play together again. Let's bring the title home for California this year!
nuggetsyl
16-04-2014, 16:43
I would love nothing more then to work with 16 again.
And I think if 16, 25, 1640 paired up it would be a killer alliance.
Team Rembrandts from the Netherlandsis trilled to be on newton. Great so see so many top teams in this division. Does any1 have a list on how many nationalities are involved in Newton?
Team Rembrandts from the Netherlandsis trilled to be on newton. Great so see so many top teams in this division. Does any1 have a list on how many nationalities are involved in Newton?
team_country
USA
Canada
Brazil
Israel
Mexico
Netherlands
Joe Ross
16-04-2014, 16:51
I noticed this too... They didn't seem to have OPR's in my database so I believe I am missing a regional...
1678's best OPR was over 100 at Silicon Valley. You might be missing it.
team_country
USA
Canada
Brazil
Israel
Mexico
Netherlands
Thanks, that is an cool list of countries. Only European team though, eventhough we are the only European team at Worlds.
What about 1884 from England?
Oh they are in Curie, nice :)
MrBydlon
16-04-2014, 17:53
We made a little blog post with relevant links for divisions and Newton. We also made a list of all the teams that are from outside the US. We plan to make some more lists and other stuff in the next couple days.
Newton, Here We Come (http://team3313mechatronics.blogspot.com/2014/04/newton-here-we-come.html)
Super excited to play with so many great teams!!
Average max OPR for Newton: 58.91559315
Average rank by max OPR for Newton: 893.3092784
What about 1884 from England?
Oh they are in Curie, nice :)
Ow cool, didnt know they had made it aswell. I know for a fact that there are only 3 FRC teams in europe atm so glad to see we are not the only one who made it. We'll make sure more teams will spawn there though.
Jefferson
16-04-2014, 18:10
16 and 368 have to be allianced because those two swerves on the same side of the field will be dangerous.
I will admit to being 368-ignorant until reading this post. Now after watching some video, that robot seems very... familiar. Now I wonder how they got a spy in our design meetings from way out there. :D That's one nice looking robot. It would be an honor to rock the swerve with a team like that.
SciBorg Dave
16-04-2014, 18:17
New to Championships.
4061 SciBorgs happy to be new on Newton.
4464 is excited to be a part of Newton this year. We're extremely grateful to have the opportunity to experience Worlds for the second time in two years; it's a huge inspiration to our students and an absolute blast!
Also, Newton is totally the smartest of the scientists who have fields named after them. Just sayin'. ;)
Landonh12
16-04-2014, 18:53
364 is excited to be back at worlds for the first time since 2011. We are SUPER excited to compete against all of these great teams in Newton. Good luck to all in St. Louis.
Bmarshall645
16-04-2014, 18:57
cool were on Newtons division.
Henrique Schmit
16-04-2014, 21:15
I am very excited to play with all the awesome teams at newton ;)
Let's hope no one gets confused like at IRI 2013 when 3476 and 3467 got mixed up during alliance selection.
We don't talk about that.
Abhishek R
16-04-2014, 22:44
We don't talk about that.
Only at IRI can an Einstein team with a 7 disk auto and great cycling capability be accidentally picked.
AllenGregoryIV
16-04-2014, 23:01
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1374925&postcount=31).
Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0
There is a glossary on the second sheet.
eddie12390
16-04-2014, 23:06
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1374925&postcount=31).
Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0
There is a glossary on the second sheet.
I don't seem to have the ability to edit.
AllenGregoryIV
16-04-2014, 23:11
I don't seem to have the ability to edit.
I just fixed it, it didn't take the first time I changed it. Sorry about that.
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1374925&postcount=31).
Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0
There is a glossary on the second sheet.
If we shoot somewhere between a layup and 18', which should we put yes for? Just so we all stay standard.
ThunderousPrime
16-04-2014, 23:24
Dumped the images i had already amassed. I will be digging for more.
jaykris284
17-04-2014, 01:53
1261 is looking forward to a pretty competitive division this year at Championships. Newton has pretty good diversity in terms of robot ability and strengths. It should make for interesting qualification matches.
David Brinza
17-04-2014, 02:29
Only at IRI can an Einstein team with a 7 disk auto and great cycling capability be accidentally picked.
That was an incredible #2 alliance - scoring over 250 points in IRI's last match and ending up finalists.
themccannman
17-04-2014, 04:31
Added to doc. Not 100% sure on drivetrain gearing, max height, or weight but they're close enough.
RoboChair
17-04-2014, 04:53
Added to doc. Not 100% sure on drivetrain gearing, max height, or weight but they're close enough.
Edited gearing, high gear is correct theoretical, low gear will be checked for final accuracy later today.
Travis Hoffman
17-04-2014, 11:13
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
Yeah!!!!!
Navid Shafa
17-04-2014, 11:16
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
Really glad to hear it. You guys had a rough season, but I'm sure this bot will shine at Champs. Good luck!
David Brinza
17-04-2014, 11:54
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).Congrats! Maybe I'll be stalking Newton teams this year...
AllenGregoryIV
17-04-2014, 12:24
If we shoot somewhere between a layup and 18', which should we put yes for? Just so we all stay standard.
Put it as layup, then add a note in the comments.
Were, still missing a lot of teams. It would be great if we could get this finished before Wednesday so everyone is on the same page.
mathking
17-04-2014, 12:29
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
Excellent Travis. I am very happy you made it and that we'll be in the same division. See you there.
Team 1574
17-04-2014, 17:04
Miscar 1574 is proud to be in the Newton division this year!
Hope to reach our achievement from 2008 - Newton Finalist.
Good luck you all, and we'll see you at the CMP!
Katie_UPS
17-04-2014, 17:33
3928 and 525! Maybe we can convince another team to claim allegiance to Iowa and create champ's first Iowa Alliance.
Meredith Novak
17-04-2014, 17:43
Congrats! Maybe I'll be stalking Newton teams this year...
You better be!
Bob Steele
17-04-2014, 18:16
3928 and 525! Maybe we can convince another team to claim allegiance to Iowa and create champ's first Iowa Alliance.
We might have done that last year. Our school was located in Des Moines.
That is Des Moines Washington though...
Oh and we moved the school over the summer to Tukwila, Washington...
We will be happy to support you though!! My daughter did her Residency in Internal Medicine and her Fellowship in Rheumatology in Iowa.... great teaching school.
MrBydlon
17-04-2014, 18:33
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1374925&postcount=31).
Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0
There is a glossary on the second sheet.
This Pre-Scouting Sheet is super awesome!
Could we (do we need to) make a column for videos?
We did that in our scouting spreadsheet. We used reveal videos whenever possible, however, we needed to use match videos sometimes.
I could copy the links in that we have and people could replace/fix any links.
AllenGregoryIV
17-04-2014, 18:35
This Pre-Scouting Sheet is super awesome!
Could we (do we need to) make a column for videos?
We did that in our scouting spreadsheet. We used reveal videos whenever possible, however, we needed to use match videos sometimes.
I could copy the links in that we have and people could replace/fix any links.
It's added.
I know team 1261 is super stoked to be placed in this top notch division! ;)
To be the best you have to play the best!! Best of luck to all teams! And see you on the field.
nuggetsyl
17-04-2014, 19:28
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1374925&postcount=31).
Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0
There is a glossary on the second sheet.
I guess someone though it would be funny to delete teams. What a shame it was nice while it lasted.
Update :
I see that it was fixed. If you want to mess with stuff like resorting. Make a copy of it then play around with it.
AllenGregoryIV
17-04-2014, 23:21
I guess someone though it would be funny to delete teams. What a shame it was nice while it lasted.
Update :
I see that it was fixed. If you want to mess with stuff like resorting. Make a copy of it then play around with it.
When I looked at it, it was blank again not sure why anyone would do that. I reverted it back. I also made a view only copy that only I can edit.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdHQtV2ZOS2hYTk9PUVFOb3ZBbmhPY nc#gid=0
Feel free to use the link above if you just want to look at the data, I'll try to update it a few times a day.
knighter
18-04-2014, 02:48
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
Thats good to here Travis, this is Greg, I'm a former mentor from team 1270 currently the new team of 120 it will be good in seeing your bot glad to hear you will be joining us in Newton.
I got this cool list... sort of pre-scouting for Newton Division
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JOAn0Y0qIffVS4TkYHfgyXJwNyOUu_uH_jkrpPdMdlw/edit?usp=sharing
BERT is excited to be competeing with all of you!
Good luck to all.
I'll be trying to keep an eye on the competition from Maine.
Go BERT!
Michael Corsetto
18-04-2014, 16:55
Team 1678 would like to invite Team 16 and Team 78 to join our alliance ;)
But seriously, how fun would it be to hear that alliance announced?
Plus, we'd probably win the whole thing... :rolleyes:
-Mike
MrBydlon
18-04-2014, 16:57
PRELIMINARY Match Schedules have been released.
My heart's racing. This is going to be awesome.
Preliminary Match Schedules (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/blog-Divisions-and-Preliminary-Match-Schedules)
Bob Steele
18-04-2014, 16:58
It wouldn't be fun for the rest of us. Lol
Navid Shafa
18-04-2014, 18:07
Preliminary match schedules are out. I converted Newton's to excel and formatted for better viewing.
See attached.
Alpha Beta
18-04-2014, 18:14
I like this year's preliminary schedule (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2014/2014_FRC_CMP_Qual_Newton_prelim.pdf) a lot better than last year's (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1266808&highlight=1986+schedule#post1266808).
We start the tournament with 1114 & 910, and end qualifications with 971 and 364. A host of all-star caliber teams in between. Let's do this. :cool:
AllenGregoryIV
18-04-2014, 18:15
Preliminary match schedules are out. I converted Newton's to excel and formatted for better viewing.
See attached.
It's also on the pre-scouting Google Doc, I added another sheet for it.
Alpha Beta
18-04-2014, 18:17
FYI: Looks like 3147 and 868 are surrogates in match #35.
I like this year's preliminary schedule (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2014/2014_FRC_CMP_Qual_Newton_prelim.pdf) a lot better than last year's (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1266808&highlight=1986+schedule#post1266808).
We start the tournament with 1114 & 910, and end qualifications with 971 and 364. A host of all-star caliber teams in between. Let's do this. :cool:
910 was quite excited to see our alliance for our first match as well :D
Hmm playing with 971 and 846, that should be one good match :cool:
It's also on the pre-scouting Google Doc, I added another sheet for it.
Any chance we could add predicted match results and/or predicted rankings using OPR?
Thanks for keeping it up!
aditya29
18-04-2014, 19:08
Hmm playing with 971 and 846, that should be one good match :cool:
Haha yes, was just talking to one of our students who observed that match47 is going to be fun again (referencing match 47 from SVR, when we played with 971 and 1323 against 254 and 368).
Navid Shafa
18-04-2014, 19:22
Simulated Rankings for Newton based off of OPR and Assist OPR:
*I'll double check it tonight, I'll be in the car the next few hours*
Rank Team Wins Assist OPR
1 1986 10 50.2
2 368 10 28
3 3539 9 42.3
4 971 9 41.1
5 910 9 40.1
6 1114 9 40
7 16 9 29.2
8 868 9 23.9
9 1138 9 16.1
10 1678 8 64.8
11 1507 8 36.3
12 1817 8 27.9
13 1731 8 21.3
14 2054 8 18.5
15 846 8 18.3
16 340 8 17.5
17 2486 8 16.6
18 4039 7 35.7
19 3847 7 29.8
20 314 7 28.4
21 3260 7 25.5
22 3528 7 21.2
23 133 7 21
24 1983 7 21
25 48 7 20
26 3018 7 18.9
27 2522 7 16.6
28 364 7 15.5
29 3313 7 11.5
30 3824 7 11.4
31 610 6 33.3
32 1806 6 31.1
Simulated Rankings for Newton based off of OPR and Assist OPR:
*I'll double check it tonight, I'll be in the car the next few hours*
Rank Team Wins Assist OPR
1 1986 10 50.2
2 368 10 28
3 3539 9 42.3
4 971 9 41.1
5 910 9 40.1
6 1114 9 40
7 16 9 29.2
8 868 9 23.9
9 1138 9 16.1
10 1678 8 64.8
11 1507 8 36.3
12 1817 8 27.9
13 1731 8 21.3
14 2054 8 18.5
15 846 8 18.3
16 340 8 17.5
17 2486 8 16.6
18 4039 7 35.7
19 3847 7 29.8
20 314 7 28.4
21 3260 7 25.5
22 3528 7 21.2
23 133 7 21
24 1983 7 21
25 48 7 20
26 3018 7 18.9
27 2522 7 16.6
28 364 7 15.5
29 3313 7 11.5
30 3824 7 11.4
31 610 6 33.3
32 1806 6 31.1
Where are you getting the Assist OPR from? Because the only "Assist OPR" that I've seen is from the Google Doc that Allen Gregory posted for Newton and his are way different.
AllenGregoryIV
18-04-2014, 20:07
Where are you getting the Assist OPR from? Because the only "Assist OPR" that I've seen is from the Google Doc that Allen Gregory posted for Newton and his are way different.
The ones in the spreadsheet are the Assist OPR from the event where the team had their highest overall OPR (from 1114's database). For the few teams I just looked at they seem to match Navid's but maybe he is using MaxAPR directly and that would be different for some teams.
eddie12390
18-04-2014, 21:49
Team 1678 would like to invite Team 16 and Team 78 to join our alliance ;)
But seriously, how fun would it be to hear that alliance announced?
Plus, we'd probably win the whole thing... :rolleyes:
-Mike
As long as you grab 3260 for your third pick ;)
Navid Shafa
18-04-2014, 22:30
The ones in the spreadsheet are the Assist OPR from the event where the team had their highest overall OPR (from 1114's database). For the few teams I just looked at they seem to match Navid's but maybe he is using MaxAPR directly and that would be different for some teams.
I finished it in quite a hurry. I should be able to check it over soon, when I get back to a computer.
I used Max Event OPR to do the win loss calculations and Max Assist OPR to sort teams with the same QS.
The ones in the spreadsheet are the Assist OPR from the event where the team had their highest overall OPR (from 1114's database). For the few teams I just looked at they seem to match Navid's but maybe he is using MaxAPR directly and that would be different for some teams.
What would be the difference between Max APR and Highest Event APR?
Abhishek R
18-04-2014, 22:43
What would be the difference between Max APR and Highest Event APR?
Not sure, but it may be their highest APR was not necessarily at the event where they achieved their highest OPR.
Navid Shafa
19-04-2014, 00:46
The ones in the spreadsheet are the Assist OPR from the event where the team had their highest overall OPR (from 1114's database).
Yes, I took the two stats separately. My stats match 1114's database.
I took team's Max OPR and Max Assist separately, that's the only difference.
kevincrispie
19-04-2014, 01:11
Allen, I think you might have Truss and Catch and Assist OPRs reversed.
That might be the problem.
AllenGregoryIV
19-04-2014, 01:28
Allen, I think you might have Truss and Catch and Assist OPRs reversed.
That might be the problem.
I'm pretty sure they were right at some point, anyone can edit it so I didn't notice it changed. (or possibly didn't notice it was labeled wrong the whole time). Ether way it's fixed now.
SciBorg Dave
19-04-2014, 12:08
match #125 will be fun, Blue an all Washington State alliance. 1983-2522-4061
With 1 Washington team on the Red alliance 1294
SciBorg Dave
20-04-2014, 00:29
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1374925&postcount=31).
Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database
Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0
There is a glossary on the second sheet.
Why do people change other teams stats.
I will admit to being 368-ignorant until reading this post. Now after watching some video, that robot seems very... familiar. Now I wonder how they got a spy in our design meetings from way out there. :D That's one nice looking robot. It would be an honor to rock the swerve with a team like that.
Match 33! See you there! :D
(and we were wondering how you came up with our robot ;) )
AllenGregoryIV
20-04-2014, 00:59
Why do people change other teams stats.
Very good questions, I don't have that answer, there are locked copies of the data in the other tabs. It's a good system when it works but it definitely isn't perfect. I hope most of the edits are mistakes and not vandalism but I'm not sure.
SciBorg Dave
20-04-2014, 09:59
Very good questions, I don't have that answer, there are locked copies of the data in the other tabs. It's a good system when it works but it definitely isn't perfect. I hope most of the edits are mistakes and not vandalism but I'm not sure.
I agree, this is good info for all on Newton. Where are the locked copies ?
Here is an attempt to produce a "strength of schedule" spreadsheet for Netwon. I add the OPRs of your 2 partners and subtract the OPRs of your 3 opponents and then total it for all matches. (Your own OPR is not included in the total.) The total values are then normalized from 1 (easiest schedule) to 100 (hardest schedule.) You can use either Max or Average OPR (I got the values from Ed Law's database.) The usual warnings about taking OPR too seriously apply.
You can also type in a team number and list all partners and opponents.
EDIT: I loaded a new version with updated OPRs.
tylerobot
20-04-2014, 11:44
Below is my attempt at compiling the "Must See" matches for Newton. I used a threshold of combined OPR of 400 (using "adjusted OPR"). There will be lots of other great matches, but I was trying to go for the top 10 or so.
There are 9 matches (out of 167) in Newton with a combined OPR score higher than 400. Match 33 is the highest combined score of 480.
They are:
http://i.imgur.com/1nbXZpd.png
(Calculated using team 2834's 2014 Scouting Database using adjusted OPR)
AllenGregoryIV
20-04-2014, 12:39
I agree, this is good info for all on Newton. Where are the locked copies ?
The tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet, see the attached image.
nuclearnerd
20-04-2014, 14:39
Here is an attempt to produce a "strength of schedule" spreadsheet for Netwon.
I did this up by hand for our team, but it's nice to have an automated solution. Thanks!
Here is an attempt to produce a "strength of schedule" spreadsheet for Netwon. I add the OPRs of your 2 partners and subtract the OPRs of your 3 opponents and then total it for all matches. (Your own OPR is not included in the total.) The total values are then normalized from 1 (easiest schedule) to 100 (hardest schedule.) You can use either Max or Average OPR (I got the values from Ed Law's database.) The usual warnings about taking OPR too seriously apply.
You can also type in a team number and list all partners and opponents.
Whenever I choose a team, it never changes from 525's partners/opponents.
Whenever I choose a team, it never changes from 525's partners/opponents.
Same for me too.
aditya29
20-04-2014, 15:03
Whenever I choose a team, it never changes from 525's partners/opponents.
As I opened the file, I got a warning that I need to enable macros to get everything to work. Did you enable them? Even then, it takes a few seconds to update the list after you enter a different team number, so perhaps it's just being a bit slower for you
Whenever I choose a team, it never changes from 525's partners/opponents.
You can run the macro FindPartners manually if it isn't running for some reason.
Nuttyman54
20-04-2014, 15:22
Here is an attempt to produce a "strength of schedule" spreadsheet for Netwon. I add the OPRs of your 2 partners and subtract the OPRs of your 3 opponents and then total it for all matches. (Your own OPR is not included in the total.) The total values are then normalized from 1 (easiest schedule) to 100 (hardest schedule.) You can use either Max or Average OPR (I got the values from Ed Law's database.) The usual warnings about taking OPR too seriously apply.
You can also type in a team number and list all partners and opponents.
Looks like there might be an error with 1138's OPR. They have a "Max" OPR of 1.0 but an "Average" OPR of 43.8. Not sure if that's an issue on your end or in Ed Law's spreadsheet, but it probably affects the SOS calculations.
I haven't checked if there are any others like that.
Still, this is super cool!
Looks like there might be an error with 1138's OPR. They have a "Max" OPR of 1.0 but an "Average" OPR of 43.8. Not sure if that's an issue on your end or in Ed Law's spreadsheet, but it probably affects the SOS calculations.
I haven't checked if there are any others like that.
Still, this is super cool!
I did grab a few numbers from somewhere else when Ed's database was missing OPRs - it looks like there are several that don't look right.
EDIT: I linked in a new version with corrected OPRs.
Joe Ross
20-04-2014, 15:37
You can use either Max or Average OPR (I got the values from Ed Law's database.) The usual warnings about taking OPR too seriously apply.
I'm seeing some discrepancies in some teams max OPR compared to Ed Law's database.
811, 1305, 1294, 3256, 4949, 2035, 314, 58, 3602, 1138, 25, 1285, 3539, 1678, 111, 597, 133, 997, 1156, 3847.
I noticed that many of them competed in either week 6 or 7 (but others that did compete in weeks 6 or 7 are ok).
Edit: looks like other people noticed while I was writing this post
GAH! We're a day away from load in, and I'm excited!
Teams, I look forward to seeing your amazing robots compete. I always have two main goals for events: Kids have fun, and kids are safe. After that, there'll be some dancing, some laughter, and a lot of excitement. Our volunteers are coming from all over the country to have what I feel will be the BEST field of all the divisions.
Good luck, teams! Practice it with me, ISAAC! NEWTON!
-Tom
Fusion_Clint
22-04-2014, 15:49
Team Fusion 364 is loading up and getting ready to travel. I look forward to my first, FIRST Chasmpionship event. I can't wait to meet all of you!!
Navid Shafa
24-04-2014, 00:13
Any word if the preliminary match schedule will hold or not?
Any word if the preliminary match schedule will hold or not?
https://twitter.com/FRCTeams/status/459134062678929408
According to this, your preliminary schedule is just fine to go by.
Kristian Calhoun
24-04-2014, 00:20
Any word if the preliminary match schedule will hold or not?
It looks like it:
https://twitter.com/FRCTeams/status/459134062678929408
All of the FRC teams made it to St. Louis, which means we are using the "preliminary" schedules released earlier! #omgrobots #FIRSTChamp
http://www2.usfirst.org/2014comp/events/Newton/ScheduleQual.html
Navid Shafa
24-04-2014, 00:50
https://twitter.com/FRCTeams/status/459134062678929408
According to this, your preliminary schedule is just fine to go by.
It looks like it:
https://twitter.com/FRCTeams/status/459134062678929408
Thanks guys, good to hear!
efoote868
24-04-2014, 10:08
Why is Newton's webcast getting Curie's audio feed?
Navid Shafa
24-04-2014, 10:14
Why is Newton's webcast getting Curie's audio feed?
If you want Netwon's audio, just listen to the Galileo feed. :p
Steven Donow
24-04-2014, 10:15
If you want Netwon's audio, just listen to the Galileo feed. :p
And watch Curie for Galileo's audio. Sounds like it's pretty exciting
Jonathan Norris
25-04-2014, 19:15
Does anyone have the final rankings/results up to match 150? the FIRST website only shows up to match 144.
Navid Shafa
25-04-2014, 19:19
Does anyone have the final rankings/results up to match 150? the FIRST website only shows up to match 144.
I wish!
Even though matches are done for the day, the FMS data is not up to date on most divisions...
Archimedes (http://www2.usfirst.org/2014comp/events/Archimedes/rankings.html): Match Results and Rankings display current as of Match 120.
Curie (http://www2.usfirst.org/2014comp/events/Curie/rankings.html): The only division that is truly current, maybe the curse is spreading.
Galileo (http://www2.usfirst.org/2014comp/events/Galileo/rankings.html): Match results only current to 148, Rankings apparently say 150.
Newton Rankings (http://www2.usfirst.org/2014comp/events/Newton/rankings.html): Matches and Rankings say current as of Match 144.
*Sigh*
Posted in the main thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1378552&postcount=8[/url]):
GearsOfFury
26-04-2014, 07:37
Can anyone fill us in on what happened in Q98 when 1114/610 only scored 63 points and gave 1114 their only loss so far?
Can anyone fill us in on what happened in Q98 when 1114/610 only scored 63 points and gave 1114 their only loss so far?
I think that was the match 610 was either dead or disabled.
Can anyone fill us in on what happened in Q98 when 1114/610 only scored 63 points and gave 1114 their only loss so far?
1114 was put into goalie zone and 610 was suppose to do a two ball autonomous then 610 died on the field before they did the autonomous. The ball inside of 610 was called a dead ball but the ball they were just touching 1114 had to score. With only two robots actively working it was hard to do anything. 997 and 1114 was trying their hardest to stay in the game, but could not. This goes to show that in aerial assist every robot needs to be contributing.
eddie12390
26-04-2014, 12:22
We'd like to thank all of the people who made this event so much fun, 3260 had a great time in Newton and got to play with some amazing teams.
Bmarshall645
27-04-2014, 17:31
We enjoyed our time in Newton. We are looking forward to next year :) Does anyone have any videos of the following matches in Newton?
Qualifications:
-31
-46
-54
-93
-104
-144
Please private message us if you find any recordings of these matches. We would like to watch some of our matches again.
Alpha Beta
27-04-2014, 17:38
We enjoyed our time in Newton. We are looking forward to next year :) Does anyone have any videos of the following matches in Newton?
Qualifications:
-31
-46
-54
-93
-104
-144
Please private message us if you find any recordings of these matches. We would like to watch some of our matches again.
Match #31: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfLhh4E_Ktc
AllenGregoryIV
27-04-2014, 21:46
Match #31: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfLhh4E_Ktc
We'll be getting up every qualification match from Friday and Saturday soon, we lost an SD card that had a chunk of the Thursday matches so sadly we won't have those. We also don't have any of the elimination matches.
Bmarshall645
27-04-2014, 22:51
We'll be getting up every qualification match from Friday and Saturday soon, we lost an SD card that had a chunk of the Thursday matches so sadly we won't have those. We also don't have any of the elimination matches.
Ok thank you guys :)
Alpha Beta
27-04-2014, 23:38
Team Titanium (FRC 1986) wanted to express our gratitude to all of the staff and volunteers on the Newton division. We had a fantastic time playing with and against some of the greatest teams in the world. Aerial Assist took on a whole new kind of beauty with the caliber of teams there.
Special thanks to our alliance partners. 368, Team Kika Mana, 1806, S.W.A.T. and 3928, Team Neutrino for joining us on our run to the semi-finals. Our scouts thought each of you was a steal when we drafted you, and even more impressed with your performance on the field. Not many alliances can lose their captain (aluminum gear failure in the drive train, more diagnosis to come later) and still give the 1678, 1114, 1640 alliance a loss.
Speaking of that gear failure. Big thanks to all of the teams who searched their pits for a spare gear. That 70 tooth 1/2 inch hex bore was a bit tough to come by. We were swimming in close options due to the outpouring of help. FIRST is an amazing program when your opponents, and competing teams from other divisions divert resources during their own push for the championship to help you out.
Congratulations to 1678, 1114 and 1640 (and 5136) for winning the division and creating the most epic set of Einstein final matches I've ever witnessed. I smile every time I think about the greatness we saw there.
hionwind
29-04-2014, 01:09
On behalf of team 1678, I would like to echo the comments of team 1986. It was an honour to play among some of the greats of FIRST and also with some very talented rookies.
A big thank you to our alliance partners 1114, 1640 and 5136. It was an exciting ride all the way to the finals on Einstein. On the way, we faced some stiff opposition, especially from the oustanding 4th seed alliance of 1986, 368, 1806 and 3928. I have to say it was a lot more fun playing with 368 at SVR than against you on Newton.
A special thank you to our long-time friends 971 who have done so much to help us get to where we are today. You picked a great alliance partner in our other good friends 1983 and provided a worthy opponent in the finals.
Finally, a big shout out to team 5310. You guys are awesome! Thanks so much for working with us and helping us on the way to the number one seed on Newton. I'm hoping this is just the beginning of a lasting friendship.
Citrus Dad
29-04-2014, 02:51
I took particular note of 971's scouting in Newton. Sitting with 1114's scouts during the draft we were impressed with the alliance they assembled (stealing our picks!) and knew they would be particularly dangerous. A mentor from Skunkworks said that the alliance had gotten 1983's top choices in each category. 971 proved the worth of its choices by reaching the finals from the #6 spot.
After we allied at Sacramento, we adopted several key elements of 971's scouting and draft method, and these were key to our success at Newton and Einstein. 971's system is the best student-led that I've encountered so far. Congrats to your success!
1640 is completely blown away and honored to have represented Newton on Einstein two years in a row now. Thank you so, so much to 1678 and 1114 for inviting us into your alliance. I mean this more significantly than just in alliance selection; you guys are great together and we're honored to have worked with you. Just experiencing your professional teamwork up close was a fantastically educational experience for all of us. And of course, thank you to 5136 for joining us. As I told your coach when the confetti fell, we've all experienced first hand how motivating the Einstein Rush is. You guys are going to be amazing! I know we won't be the only ones keeping an eye on you in the future.
Also congratulations to SWAT, Kika Mana, Neutrino and Titanium for rubbering us in the semifinals. After facing 1986 last year and working with 1806 and 386 (plus being trounced by 3928) in quals, we knew were in for a rough run. You guys are one heck of an alliance! Same to Coyotes, Nuts, Big Bang, Laser Spartan, Daisy and Skunkworks--it's an honor just to play against the legends.
But mostly, thank you to all the alliances on Newton for making my last run with 1640 so incredible, exciting, awe inspiring and not a little terrifying. You guys are great.
Special thanks to our alliance partners. 368, Team Kika Mana, 1806, S.W.A.T. and 3928, Team Neutrino for joining us on our run to the semi-finals.
Has it been a week already? Seems like it was just yesterday.
Anyhow, we'd like to express our mahalo to our alliance captain 1986 for picking us. You've always been a team we've admired from afar and it was great getting to play alongside you. It was also a blast playing with our partners 1806 and 3928. We had a great run and we're so glad everyone on our alliance got to make it onto the field for eliminations.
Congratulations to 1678, 1114, 1640, and 5136 for making it as Einstein Finalists. Of course, we were hoping you would win so that we could say we were eliminated by the Championship winners! Special shout out to 1640 for representing the swerve community out on Einstein :D. Great job also to our friends 1678 for coming out on top in Newton and showing folks that last year wasn't just a fluke - that you're a force to be reckoned with!
After getting all the videos set up and data for each match ready, just about all (sorry for missing a match or two) the Newton matches are going up on YouTube here: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk2gATc1wI5r53tGcoZff0iXyF1xgxRMu
Due to some SD card space issues, a bunch of the Thursday matches are up to 720p only, but the rest are up to 1080p. Filming from the nosebleeds seems to have removed a lot of the audience members and field personnel walking by that you see obscuring some other videos.
Enjoy!
Citrus Dad
03-05-2014, 21:29
Congratulations to 1678, 1114, 1640, and 5136 for making it as Einstein Finalists. Of course, we were hoping you would win so that we could say we were eliminated by the Championship winners! Special shout out to 1640 for representing the swerve community out on Einstein :D. Great job also to our friends 1678 for coming out on top in Newton and showing folks that last year wasn't just a fluke - that you're a force to be reckoned with
We loved working with you at SVR this year! We almost got 254 there as well. Please contact us if you're coming back to SVR this year, and we'll figure out what support we can provide you for your trip (even if we don't end up at SVR next year.)
Louisiana Jones
05-05-2014, 17:34
As a member of Team 1806, I’d like to thank everyone involved with world competitions last weekend including the staff, volunteers and teams. Worlds is always a great experience for the team and this year was no different.
A huge thanks goes out to our alliance partner and captain 1986, Team Titanium, for allowing us to qualify for Worlds with a wildcard and for selecting us for eliminations. We wouldn’t have been able to participate at St. Louis without them.
Thanks to 368, Team Kika Mana and 3928, Team Neutrino for working so well with us. It takes a special alliance to push it to three matches against World Finalists. Speaking of which, I’d like to personally congratulate teams 1678, 1114 and 1640 for being a fantastic representation of this year’s Newton division and also for pushing it to three matches against the World Champions!!!
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