2014 IRI WEBCAST

[Chris Fultz]

Watch the IRI webcast here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/indiana-robotics-invitational-2014

Full field view can be watched here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/indiana-robotics-invitational-2014-full-field

[Greg Woelki]

Awesome! There go my next two days...

[Jay O'Donnell]

What time do matches start?

[BrendanB]

What time do matches start?

According to the preliminary schedule they start at 10:30.

[Jay O'Donnell]

According to the preliminary schedule they start at 10:30.

Central or Eastern?

[BrendanB]

Central or Eastern?

Eastern. Indiana is still in our time zone even though it is so far away!

[Andrew Lawrence]

Is there any way to get a score overlay on the full field view?

[magnets]

Is there any way to get a score overlay on the full field view?

Agreed.

The webcast looks awesome. It's high quality, good sound, and no issues so far.

The 30 second warning sound is different though. It's back to the 2011 minibot noise instead of the train whistle.

Let's hope we see fewer fouls as the day goes on.

6 Balls on the ground after autonomous mode. Ouch.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Is there any way to get a score overlay on the full field view?

That's what I want too.

[MattInAHat]

Let's hope we see fewer fouls as the day goes on.

6 Balls on the ground after autonomous mode. Ouch.
Those fouls seem warranted though, they were inside 1114 and were pretty rough with it.

[magnets]

Looks like streams need to be restarted again.
EDIT:Nope, it's good. My video computer bluescreened, so it's an issue on my end.

[Eugene Fang]

Dual streams are up on GameDay, for those that want full-field and score overlay.

http://www.thebluealliance.com/gameday#view_0=2014iri-1&view_1=2014iri-2&layout=1&chat=1

[Thad House]

Is there any way to get a score overlay on the full field view?

Talked to the av guys and they say their equipment is only able to overlay 1 screen.

[Greg Woelki]

Is there any way to get a score overlay on the full field view?

Last match I watched full field view on my computer and score overlay (muted) on my phone so I could glance down for the score. They were about 2 seconds out of sync but it worked pretty well.

[MattInAHat]

I wonder if the high score (I think it's 420?) will get beaten at IRI this year.

[MattRain]

... dang it, can't watch it from work. Dang you firewall.

[MattInAHat]

Is the audio a few seconds behind for anyone else on the non-field view?

[magnets]

Full field stream needs to be restarted (for real this time.)

[Jay O'Donnell]

Is the audio a few seconds behind for anyone else on the non-field view?

It was for me but now it's fixed.

[efoote868]

Anyone know where to find match results / rankings?

[MattInAHat]

Seeing a lot more goalie sticks at this event than at others.

[mdiradoorian]

Anyone know where to find match results / rankings?

I was wondering the same thing.

[magnets]

What happened to 254 in that last match?

[mdiradoorian]

What happened to 254 in that last match?

looked like they died on the field, but they still won.

[Basel A]

It was for me but now it's fixed.

...and now it's doing the same thing again. Seems like once an hour; you could set a clock to it.

[MrTechCenter]

Both streams are frozen.

[mdiradoorian]

It is really lagging for me right now. I definitely know it is not my internet connection or my computer.

[magnets]

They just restarted the streams. It's working fine for me.

[RKazmer]

They just reset the stream

[mdiradoorian]

Ok, I guess after they reset it, it works fine.

[AdamHeard]

Matches up on youtube too!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9UFVOe2UANwr6_QgmBZe7sswRs6RDiev

[Jared]

Scores: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NN7Fn6S-pcMtwDyg4ALcbpYt0pPTzRKmGMnHoFl0Voc/edit?usp=sharing

[Jared]

I think the stream needs to be restarted again. It looks like it's gone bad a 1:45, 12:45, and 11:45.

[MattInAHat]

The poofs just died on the field again? It always happens after they get rammed too. Their RSL died, so I wonder if they're shorting and causing cRIO to reboot mid-match.

[AdamHeard]

Document with match results, current rankings, and predicted rankings.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Birb1o-s77tf--S4z9uS2wFLbH9TBny4KP8q1f3zJQ0/edit#gid=1275353925

Completely unofficial, and likely some errors!

[Jared]

The poofs just died on the field again? It always happens after they get rammed too. Their RSL died, so I wonder if they're shorting and causing cRIO to reboot mid-match.

They posted on facebook that their breaker tripped. I've found that after one trip, breakers are more likely to trip again.

[MattInAHat]

I guess that'll happen when you have three other robots defending you.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Did anyone else notice the numbers over 1086's driver station? All 4 numbers are flashing on and off randomly.

[AdamHeard]

Document with match results, current rankings, and predicted rankings.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Birb1o-s77tf--S4z9uS2wFLbH9TBny4KP8q1f3zJQ0/edit#gid=1275353925

Completely unofficial, and likely some errors!

Currently this is summing off win/loss and decently counted assist.

I will update w/ the actual rankings when they are posted, so the predictions become slightly more accurate.

[Foster]

Can you make a post when the data gets updated with the end of day results please? I'm living through your eyes, even have fresh corn on the cob so I can pretend that I'm there.

[AdamHeard]

Can you make a post when the data gets updated with the end of day results please? I'm living through your eyes, even have fresh corn on the cob so I can pretend that I'm there.

Yes. Either by someone at IRI posting, or by pictures of rankings, we will have accurate rankings at the end of the day and I will update.

[AdamHeard]

Rankings updated!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Birb1o-s77tf--S4z9uS2wFLbH9TBny4KP8q1f3zJQ0/edit#gid=1275353925

I left the middle tab "current rankings", as that will increment as matches play tomorrow. The right hand table is copied from pictures w/ the exception of 66-68.

[Jared]

It looks like they're scoring autonomous mode wrong.

I thought I saw it in a few more matches(Match 29), but I'm pretty sure it's wrong here for both alliances:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJvmn46bfUo&list=PL9UFVOe2UANwr6_QgmBZe7sswRs6RDiev&index=49

There are 4 red hot goals and two mobility bonuses. This should be 20*4 + 5*2 = 90 points, but red only gets 70.

Blue gets 4 balls in and and 3 mobility bonuses, so that means at least 75 pts, but they only get 65 points.


It may be possible that the field software no longer supports scoring more than 3 balls in autonomous mode.

[Abhishek R]

It looks like they're scoring autonomous mode wrong.

I thought I saw it in a few more matches(Match 29), but I'm pretty sure it's wrong here for both alliances:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJvmn46bfUo&list=PL9UFVOe2UANwr6_QgmBZe7sswRs6RDiev&index=49

There are 4 red hot goals and two mobility bonuses. This should be 20*4 + 5*2 = 90 points, but red only gets 70.

Blue gets 4 balls in and and 3 mobility bonuses, so that means at least 75 pts, but they only get 65 points.


It may be possible that the field software no longer supports scoring more than 3 balls in autonomous mode.

I'm not sure about this match specifically, but the way we were told at the driver's meeting is that because the software only supports up to three balls, they're adding it in afterwards during teleop.

[Eugene Fang]

It looks like they're scoring autonomous mode wrong.

I thought I saw it in a few more matches(Match 29), but I'm pretty sure it's wrong here for both alliances:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJvmn46bfUo&list=PL9UFVOe2UANwr6_QgmBZe7sswRs6RDiev&index=49

There are 4 red hot goals and two mobility bonuses. This should be 20*4 + 5*2 = 90 points, but red only gets 70.

Blue gets 4 balls in and and 3 mobility bonuses, so that means at least 75 pts, but they only get 65 points.


It may be possible that the field software no longer supports scoring more than 3 balls in autonomous mode.

If you look at the score screen at the end of the match you linked, you can see teleop + auton does not equal the final score. Perhaps something is being added in manually.

[Jared]

If you look at the score screen at the end of the match you linked, you can see teleop + auton does not equal the final score. Perhaps something is being added in manually.

You're right. I assumed that the scores would add up, and that it would be added on to teleop or auton, but I was wrong.

[Joe Ross]

Are the full field videos being archived?

[AdamHeard]

Rankings updated!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Birb1o-s77tf--S4z9uS2wFLbH9TBny4KP8q1f3zJQ0/edit#gid=1275353925

I left the middle tab "current rankings", as that will increment as matches play tomorrow. The right hand table is copied from pictures w/ the exception of 66-68.

The other 973 people and I taking turns on this might not wake up in time to get going with matches. We will catch 8 when we wake up if so!

[Metonym]

Are the full field videos being archived?

We were unable to bring a second h.264 recorder with us, so we decided to only record the dynamic stream. However, we will be recording the full field for eliminations.

[Jared]

Elimination bracket and matches:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NN7Fn6S-pcMtwDyg4ALcbpYt0pPTzRKmGMnHoFl0Voc/edit?usp=sharing

[BrendanB]

2014 IRI Alliances

1.254, 1114, 330, 2013 F
2.2056, 469, 1625, 4039 W
3.118, 16, 67, 1241 SF
4.1718, 2451, 27, 125 SF
5.2175, 368, 1477, 233 QTR
6.51, 4488, 494, 234 QTR
7.359, 148, 910, 2337 QTR
8.624, 33, 447, 2481 QTR

[Andrew Lawrence]

Not sure who to root for: The Cheesy Sim Beach Gnomes, OP Makes Winnorrillas*, or The HOT Theory Bombnauts.

*Name originated by Brendan Browne

[BrendanB]

OP Makes Winnorrillas

Plagiarism!

[Nemo]

Those top three alliances. Wow. All of them are good, in fact.

[magnets]

Since when have we had automatic scoring on the high goals?

[Andrew Lawrence]

Is the full field broadcast (IRI 1) being extremely laggy or even freezing for other people? IRI 2 works perfectly fine for me but now IRI 1 isn't functioning.

[MrTechCenter]

Is the full field broadcast (IRI 1) being extremely laggy or even freezing for other people? IRI 2 works perfectly fine for me but now IRI 1 isn't functioning.

It's not just you.

[magnets]

They just restarted. It should be good now.

EDIT: NVM, still bad.

[ThunderousPrime]

Since when have we had automatic scoring on the high goals?

We never had automatic high goal scoring. To my knowledge the ref inputs high goal score into his tablet. I believe the announcer had misinformation.

[ttldomination]

I found it weird that on Friday, I could change my quality to better pull data, but on Saturday, it seemed like the stream functionality was disabled. Not sure why that would be set like that.

- Sunny G.

[magnets]

What exactly was the foul for? I missed the beginning of the match.

[StAxis]

What exactly was the foul for? I missed the beginning of the match.

From the match I would guess contact inside the frame perimeter on 1114 due to their unfortunate collision and entanglement with 2056, but I didn't hear an official verdict either.

[nuclearnerd]

Regarding the webcast - huge props to the IRI video team for setting up nearly instant youtube uploads for match video. I stopped watching the live feed after it froze at a critical point a few too many times. With the "instant videos", I could watch the whole matches without interruption (and even pause and replay the big moments). I hope too see instant videos at more events in future!

[Mr V]

Regarding the webcast - huge props to the IRI video team for setting up nearly instant youtube uploads for match video. I stopped watching the live feed after it froze at a critical point a few too many times. With the "instant videos", I could watch the whole matches without interruption (and even pause and replay the big moments). I hope too see instant videos at more events in future!


That would be the FIRSTWA video team, suplemented by local staff, that was doing that. FIRSTWA did do training as that was part of the reason that members of the FIRSTWA video crew and the FIRSTWA equipment went to IRI.

[Andrew Lawrence]

In regards to the webcast, the entire thing was phenomenal. Despite the occasional lag and freezing screens, the high quality, available viewing choices, instantly recorded and posted matches, and perfect camera positioning made for a user-friendly and extremely entertaining way to experience the event. Huge props to the PNW team for such an outstanding job.

Speaking of, I have a personal request. Would the PNW video team be interested in writing a white paper on how they stream and video the events they do? I think everyone could learn something from this fantastic group of people, and the world would be a better place if all webcasts were done like this one.

[FrankJ]

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Speaking of, I have a personal request. Would the PNW video team be interested in writing a white paper on how they stream and video the events they do? I think everyone could learn something from this fantastic group of people, and the world would be a better place if all webcasts were done like this one.

+1 Having Video like this would let people at home following their teams. Making it LOUD. It should be a 1st standard.

[cjl2625]

Regarding the webcast - huge props to the IRI video team for setting up nearly instant youtube uploads for match video. I stopped watching the live feed after it froze at a critical point a few too many times. With the "instant videos", I could watch the whole matches without interruption (and even pause and replay the big moments). I hope too see instant videos at more events in future!

Can someone give a link to these uploads?

[nuclearnerd]

Can someone give a link to these uploads?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9UFVOe2UANwr6_QgmBZe7sswRs6RDiev

Keep hitting "load more" at the bottom and you'll see all of the matches. The best part was each video was up within 5 minutes of a match finishing.

[tickspe15]

OK, so there are a few things to say.

First, we would like to thank everybody for all the support we received to make the live stream happen. The event was lots of fun and we learned alot.

We are working on documentation that should be released by the end of the summer.

We also archived the full field stream from elimination matches. That archive is on a computer in the rode case that will be headed back to Washington. Those videos should be up eventually.

[tickspe15]

We never had automatic high goal scoring. To my knowledge the ref inputs high goal score into his tablet. I believe the announcer had misinformation.

There is still not automatic high goal scoring and it wasn't a misunderstanding. Similar to the default excuse for pedastool lighting issues the announcers made up a mostly true explanation without blaming the ref who just hit the button too soon. They decided to count refs as sensors

[ElvisMom]

any chance to get talent show video(s) uploaded as well? we'd love to show video of Lauren & Kayla during R2OC off season event this weekend.

Thanks. POLLY