Registration 2015

[Mark McLeod]

Time again for that wonderful pastime of watching the election results as folks click through TIMS voting for their most popular FRC events.

107 events - 11% growth (at least to start with)
56 Regionals (+2)
45 Districts (+8)
5 District Championships (+1)
1 World Championship (greatly enlarged)

Ladies and Gentlemen, exercise your clicking fingers...

P.S.
1st rookie team # is 5400

[Wetzel]

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I'm excited, are you?

[The_ShamWOW88]

Woooo!

[PayneTrain]

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[Joe G.]

Time to see if the approximately 500 emails team contacts have received reminding them to complete the YPP screening pays off!

[Wetzel]

Time to see if the approximately 500 emails team contacts have received reminding them to complete the YPP screening pays off!

Our senior mentor has been doing a full court press for YPP.

[MechEng83]

Done! Indianapolis Event, Week 1.

[Wetzel]

And 2914 is registered for Chesapeake. No issues at all with registration.

[Rosiebotboss]

And Rosie is on for Hartford.

[Ken Streeter]

Registration was the quickest I ever remember. 1519 signed up for the Week 5 Northeastern University Event in the New England District as our first event within about 30 seconds of registration opening.

[Boe]

2175 Registered for North Star!

[MooreteP]

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezey.

[DarrinMunter]

Icarus 2081 is flying in to Central Illinois Regional..... well, most of us could walk there. Nice to have it in our own town!!!

[Mark McLeod]

772 teams registered within the first 3 minutes (4.3 teams per second)
838 at 4 minutes (66 teams per minute-just for this time period)
887 at 5 minutes (49 teams per minute)
926 at 6 minutes (39 teams/min)
946 at 7 minutes (20 teams/min)
972 at 8 minutes (26 teams/min)
1007 at 10 minutes (17.5 teams/min)
1067 at 15 minutes (12 teams/min)
1109 at 20 minutes (8.4 teams/min)
1180 at 30 minutes (7.1 teams/min)
1300 at 60 minutes (4 teams/min)
1397 at 90 minutes (3.2 teams/min)
1443 at 2 hours (1.5 teams/min)
1482 at 2.5 hours (1.3 teams/min)
1513 at 3 hours (1 team/min)
1563 at 4 hours (45 teams/hr)
1604 at 5 hours (41 teams/hr)
1700 at 9 hours 42 minutes (20 teams/hr)
1794 at 24 hours (6.5 teams/hr)


1796 at 12 hours (includes ~ 75 waitlisted teams (mostly MI I imagine), from the FRC Blog, which are not visible in the numbers above) translates to an overall ~149 teams /hr

It must be so slow because people are actually reading the legal pages...

P.S. 1st Rookie number is 5400

24 hours to edit this post have expired so no more updates to these here numbers.

[Abrakadabra]

In and out in under 30 seconds. 3467 is looking forward to Week 2 at the Reading District event!

[BrendanB]

In and out in under 30 seconds. 3467 is looking forward to Week 2 at the Reading District event!

Awe yes! :cool:

[Mr MOE]

MOE 365 is in at inaugural Upper Darby MAR District event. Looking forward to it!

30 seconds in and out. Fastest ever. Thanks for making this easy, FIRST!

[sanddrag]

This was the easiest and fastest this has ever gone. Registered for Long Beach at 12:00:15 EDT, and that was taking 5 seconds to skim what I was clicking.

But OMG! By 12:00:50 EDT, there were 25 teams registered! 25 teams in 50 seconds! This is getting ridiculously competitive. By 12:03:00, 30 teams.

All I can say is in future years, you better have a fast computer, on a fast network, and a really precise mouse. And forget trying to read anything on the screen.

Oh, and you better cancel everything and take off work that morning, and if you're a teacher, cancel class.

[Josh Drake]

5403 in the house, looking forward to a great 2015 season!

[M. Mellott]

Greater Pittsburgh Regional was full in less than 5 minutes (33 slots).

[Andrew Schreiber]

Registration was the quickest I ever remember. 1519 signed up for the Week 5 Northeastern University Event in the New England District as our first event within about 30 seconds of registration opening.

Looking forward to seeing you there.

[Jeremy Germita]

Teams 5012 and 399 are in for the Inland Empire regional!

[PayneTrain]

Greater Pittsburgh Regional was full in less than 5 minutes (33 slots).

That was a a given.

In an out fro Virginia within a minute. Now I'm F5ing some other event pages.

I am such a nerd.

[Trying to Help]

1729 is happy to be back in the game again! We're registered for the Nashua District event, quickly and easily.

[IndySam]

36 Indiana teams signed up in the first 10 minuets. Half for Week 1 in Indy.

[Lil' Lavery]

36 Indiana teams signed up in the first 10 minuets. Half for Week 1 in Indy.

Surprised that many are selecting an event with no venue as their top priority.

[Karthik]

All you web ninjas out there, does anyone want to whip up a quick reference page that pulls in the following data in a pretty table:

1. Regional Name {And link to registered teams}
2. Regional Location
3. Regional Dates
4. Number of Registered Teams
5. Number of Spots Available

FIRST used to have a page like this that made for a great quick reference for those of us who like to follow registration season. It hasn't been around for a while, but it seems like this would be easy enough to create by someone who has a little bit of time.

[Francis-134]

Surprised that many are selecting an event with no venue as their top priority.

I would imagine that plan-B being back-to-back districts does not work for some number of people :/

[IndySam]

Surprised that many are selecting an event with no venue as their top priority.

Well the Southern Indiana teams really have no other choice and most of the Indy area teams like the idea of not traveling. The event will be in the Indianapolis area one way or another.

[MechEng83]

Surprised that many are selecting an event with no venue as their top priority.

It's a combination of travel distance and event timing. With only Week 1, 3, and 4 events, if you want any break between tournament weekends, you have to pick week 1. Also, the week 3 and 4 events are both an hour+ north of indy, so it really is the closest event for teams in the city and the southern half of the state.

[Lil' Lavery]

Thanks for the flood of reasonable explanations. :)

[Ali Ahmed]

Done and done. Team 4 is looking forward to seeing all of our friends at LA.

Now to decide where to go for our second. Vegas? Hawaii? Ventura? San Diego? So many awesome regionals around. It's gonna be a great year.

[Mr. Van]

But OMG! By 12:00:50 EDT, there were 25 teams registered! 25 teams in 50 seconds! This is getting ridiculously competitive. By 12:03:00, 30 teams.

All I can say is in future years, you better have a fast computer, on a fast network, and a really precise mouse. And forget trying to read anything on the screen.

Oh, and you better cancel everything and take off work that morning, and if you're a teacher, cancel class.

In future years we need to do something different - like a registration period and a lottery system:
Teams indicate a 1st and 2nd choice within the registration period (say a week).
70% of spaces go in the first round - first choice by lottery.
Those that didn't get their first choice go into a lottery for their 2nd choice (the next 20% of spaces).
Should a team not get their first or 2nd choice, they get to register for the last few open spaces in what is presumably their 3rd choice.

Wash, rinse repeat for 2nd regional registration.

Hey, it could work...

- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox

PS - Registration was indeed really smooth, but I'm glad that I didn't have class today!

[FrankJ]

35 Minutes & the posts are up to 3 pages. Doesn't anybody work? :)

We will to trying out Orlando this year.

[Travis Hoffman]

Looking forward to Greater Pittsburgh. Looks like a very strong mix of teams.

I see Stellar Robotics signed up too! 9848 at the MVRC is now officially FRC 5413.

[MechEng83]

35 Minutes & the posts are up to 3 pages. Doesn't anybody work? :)

"Lunch Break"

[Kellen Hill]

1746 is registered for Peachtree!

Looks like a number of Florida, Tennessee, and South Carolina will be joining us this year!

[JohnBoucher]

Some of the NE events are very light. Only 2 registered for Dartmouth.

[ebmonon36]

I was in and out by 12:01. The Robodevils are registered for the locationless Indianapolis Week 1district event. I wish our school wasn't building a bunch of pools right outside the main gym doors.
Eric

[Mrcope9]

Quick and easy, 3991 is going to Lone Star this year!!

[M. Mellott]

Looking forward to Greater Pittsburgh. Looks like a very strong mix of teams.

I see Stellar Robotics signed up too! 9848 at the MVRC is now officially FRC 5413.

Great to hear they got in, as did 3193.

Registration went incredibly smooth--in and out in the first 30 seconds. Thanks to FIRST for the efforts put into the registration system that removed the typical refresh stress from a lot of fingers.

[Peyton Yeung]

461 is pumped for Indy.

[dag0620]

Highlight of my day was 12 pm :)

[Thad House]

4488 is registered for the Oregon City Event. Should be fun again.

[Boe]

Really excited to see two Chinese teams registered for North Star.

[Kevin Pardus]

772 teams registered within the first 3 minutes.
838 at 4 minutes
887 at 5 minutes
926 at 6 minutes
946 at 7 minutes
972 at 8 minutes
1007 at 10 minutes
1067 at 15 minutes
1109 at 20 minutes
1180 at 30 minutes

It must be so slow because people are actually reading the legal pages...

Last year 725 teams registered in the first 5 minutes, I do not think they were spending all that much time reading the legalize this year.

Greater Pittsburgh Regional was full in less than 5 minutes (33 slots).

NC Regional is full (31 slots), not as quick as Pitt, but it is off the table as well.

[ehochstein]

Really excited to see two Chinese rookies registered for North Star.

Actually, one of them is a second year team, the other is a rookie though! We can probably thank 525 for them coming up here.

[czeke]

Looking forward to seeing yall in Milwaukee:rolleyes:

[Taylor]

Another reason for signing up for the Indy district is the fact it's Saturday-Sunday, which means no days out of school.

[Ken Streeter]

1729 is happy to be back in the game again! We're registered for the Nashua District event, quickly and easily. Welcome back! We're planning to sign up for Nashua as our 2nd event.

[Mark McLeod]

At initial capacity (which is 5 less than last year) I see:
MN 10K Lakes
MN North Star
NC
Pittsburgh
Greater Toronto Central1:45
Los Angeles3:00
Mt. Olive MAR4:00
Waterloo8:00pm
Arizona East
NY Tech ValleyFriday, ~8am
Lake Superior
Peachtree~12pm
Dallas

[Chirag]

4761 is signed up and pumped for our first home competition at the week 2 Reading District Event! Can't wait to see some of you guys there!

[Kevin Pardus]

At initial capacity (which is 5 less than last year) I see:

MN 10K Lakes
MN North Star
NC
Pittsburgh
Greater Toronto Central

NC reduced its initial capacity yesterday by an additional 8 slots, so it started today 13 less than last year.

[MrForbes]

That was easy. I guess I was late to the party. Anyways...I hope the other coaches are sure about wanting to sign 1726 up for the Arizona West regional, because I did.

[Rosiebotboss]

It looks like the beginning Rookie team number is 5400.

[SenorZ]

And... Los Angeles is full. 51 teams registered. Wow.

[Anthony Galea]

For district teams, is it even necessary to be on early for the first district, as you have to sign up for your home event anyway?

[MechEng83]

For district teams, is it even necessary to be on early for the first district, as you have to sign up for your home event anyway?

Is this a thing?

[Underdog_19]

In and out in under 30 seconds. 3467 is looking forward to Week 2 at the Reading District event!

4909 got into Northeastern. Shooting for Reading with our next pick!

[The_ShamWOW88]

Aztechs on our way to Granite State for our first district....

[Steven Donow]

Is this a thing?

In Michigan it is. There's some system involving home districts.

[BrendanB]

4761 is signed up and pumped for our first home competition at the week 2 Reading District Event! Can't wait to see some of you guys there! Looking forward to playing with you guys!

4909 got into Northeastern. Shooting for Reading with our next pick!

That would be awesome if you guys can make it in for second registration!

[orangemoore]

Looks like Midwest will be a host to more international teams. Currently there are two teams not from the U.S. one from Israel And another from The United Arab Emirates. This doesn't include the 3 teams from Turkey that have been there in the past.

[Basel A]

For district teams, is it even necessary to be on early for the first district, as you have to sign up for your home event anyway?

Doesn't much matter today because "home" slots are reserved for some time (Gail mentioned this specifically in an email), but timing probably will be important come Oct 9.

[Bmarshall645]

Welcome back! We're planning to sign up for Nashua as our 2nd event.

We are registered for Granite State for our first competition.

[Jscout11]

Mt. Olive District has reached initial capacity at 31 teams

[MrTechCenter]

2073 is registered for Sacramento as always!

[Tungrus]

Michigan teams can opt out of home venue, if the choose to. This season due to State grant, not many teams have registered today. Come Oct. 9th, most of the venues in SouthEast Michigan and few up-north will be filled out in few minutes!

[Chirag]

4909 got into Northeastern. Shooting for Reading with our next pick!

Hope to see you guys at Reading!

[Caleb Sykes]

At initial capacity (which is 5 less than last year) I see:
MN 10K Lakes
MN North Star
NC
Pittsburgh
Greater Toronto Central
Los Angeles

Yep, both 10K and North Star are filled up. It really is a shame, but there are always a handful of Twin City area teams that can't get in to the Minneapolis events, and then have to travel to Duluth, Milwaukee, or Chicago instead.

[ehochstein]

Yep, both 10K and North Star are filled up. It really is a shame, but there are always a handful of Twin City area teams that can't get in to the Minneapolis events, and then have to travel to Duluth, Milwaukee, or Chicago instead.

Keep in mind that the events are filled to their initial capacities. I'm sure there are some reserved spots and we'll see teams moved to take up those spots in the coming days (provided there are teams on the waitlist).

[cadandcookies]

Yep, both 10K and North Star are filled up. It really is a shame, but there are always a handful of Twin City area teams that can't get in to the Minneapolis events, and then have to travel to Duluth, Milwaukee, or Chicago instead.

Remember that right now registration is capped at around 30 teams for each. Last year there were 60 teams at each (well, 63 at 10K Lakes). If a Twin Cities team wants to be at North Star/10K Lakes, they still have a pretty good shot at being there.

Edit: Well, Evan beat me to it :)

[Tyler Olds]

Actually, one of them is a second year team, the other is a rookie though! We can probably thank 525 for them coming up here.

I'm surprised that they didn't register for 10k lakes since 525 is there. Happy to have them at North Star!

[The_ShamWOW88]

All you web ninjas out there, does anyone want to whip up a quick reference page that pulls in the following data in a pretty table:

1. Regional Name {And link to registered teams}
2. Regional Location
3. Regional Dates
4. Number of Registered Teams
5. Number of Spots Available

FIRST used to have a page like this that made for a great quick reference for those of us who like to follow registration season. It hasn't been around for a while, but it seems like this would be easy enough to create by someone who has a little bit of time.

I've created a Google Docs with this information. I'll edit it as teams register but if someone knows how to set up a spreadsheet that pulls the data automatically, go for it because I'm unsure how to do it. Remember, I'm updating this manually so before you register for an event, check USFIRST.org to make sure you have the most updated slot count. This is meant to just be a reference page.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kADS0IyLTVAlZjhhxi60l-iTPIee2xxqxG5aa7fgkcw/edit?usp=sharing

[Caleb Sykes]

Keep in mind that the events are filled to their initial capacities. I'm sure there are some reserved spots and we'll see teams moved to take up those spots in the coming days (provided there are teams on the waitlist).

Remember that right now registration is capped at around 30 teams for each. Last year there were 60 teams at each (well, 63 at 10K Lakes). If a Twin Cities team wants to be at North Star/10K Lakes, they still have a pretty good shot at being there.

Edit: Well, Evan beat me to it :)

I am aware of this, but some teams still manage to slip through the cracks. I trust the Planning Committee to do their best to accommodate as many teams as they can, but the fact is that there are just more teams that want to get in than slots available.

[Allison K]

I've created a Google Docs with this information included except the Registered team link. It doesn't give unique links to each regional's data or registered team list. I'll edit it as teams register but if someone knows how to set up a spreadsheet that pulls the data automatically, go for it because I'm unsure how to do it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kADS0IyLTVAlZjhhxi60l-iTPIee2xxqxG5aa7fgkcw/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks! Could you do a conditional format highlight on space available to make 0 red and less than 10 yellow (or whatever colors you like best)?

[Kristian Calhoun]

I've created a Google Docs with this information included except the Registered team link. It doesn't give unique links to each regional's data or registered team list. I'll edit it as teams register but if someone knows how to set up a spreadsheet that pulls the data automatically, go for it because I'm unsure how to do it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kADS0IyLTVAlZjhhxi60l-iTPIee2xxqxG5aa7fgkcw/edit?usp=sharing

You can use an frclinks.com (http://frclinks.frclinks.com/) short URL of the form frclinks.com/e/[eventcode] to easily access the registered team list for each event.

[AdamHeard]

I've created a Google Docs with this information included except the Registered team link. It doesn't give unique links to each regional's data or registered team list. I'll edit it as teams register but if someone knows how to set up a spreadsheet that pulls the data automatically, go for it because I'm unsure how to do it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kADS0IyLTVAlZjhhxi60l-iTPIee2xxqxG5aa7fgkcw/edit?usp=sharing

importhtml will let you pull in tables.

[The_ShamWOW88]

You can use an frclinks.com (http://frclinks.frclinks.com/) short URL of the form frclinks.com/e/[eventcode] to easily access the registered team list for each event.

Cool, I'll throw those up in a bit.

[Jon Stratis]

I am aware of this, but some teams still manage to slip through the cracks. I trust the Planning Committee to do their best to accommodate as many teams as they can, but the fact is that there are just more teams that want to get in than slots available.

There are teams that just shoot themselves in the foot, you mean. For example, 2169 registered for Northern Lights today... that gives them a very low chance of getting into one of the Minneapolis events for second event registration, as Minneapolis fills (final capacity) before Duluth! If a veteran team from the cities waits until second event registration to register for the local regional, all bets are off.

[KSwartley]

I'm surprised that they didn't register for 10k lakes since 525 is there. Happy to have them at North Star!

My contacts say that several teams did try to get in to 10k Lakes also. If my information is correct, there are likely 4 rookie Chinese teams on the wait list at 10k Lakes and another rookie on the wait list at North Star. However, the other rookie team that I was told would try to register at North Star is showing up on the team list at New York City.

The goal was to have the Chinese teams join the four US based teams that were at the scrimmage in Shenzhen in August. So, there are 4 teams at the Las Vegas Regional with 987, 5 teams currently showing at the New York City Regional with 694, one team planning on a Canadian Regional, and one team that is still making plans. They checked into having some teams join 1595, but since they are in the PNW district, that did not work out.

[IndySam]

Another reason for signing up for the Indy district is the fact it's Saturday-Sunday, which means no days out of school.

Except it is not yet been determined if it will be a Sat-Sun event. It clearly states now that it may be a Fri-Sat or Sat-Sun event.

The new location will be in the Indianapolis area and dates will either
be February 26 – 28, 2015 or February 27 - March 1, 2015. A

[Whippet]

Team 4301 is locked into the Dallas regional, and ready for a great time during our first year attending two regionals!

[tindleroot]

Well the Southern Indiana teams really have no other choice and most of the Indy area teams like the idea of not traveling. The event will be in the Indianapolis area one way or another.

On the other hand, us Northern Indiana teams are going to be flooding into Purdue and Kokomo. Don't expect to see 135 in Indy (until State CMP of course).

[coalhot]

4454 is registered for Hatboro-Horsham!

Looking forward to my first week 1 event with a team!

[Caleb Sykes]

There are teams that just shoot themselves in the foot, you mean. For example, 2169 registered for Northern Lights today... that gives them a very low chance of getting into one of the Minneapolis events for second event registration, as Minneapolis fills (final capacity) before Duluth! If a veteran team from the cities waits until second event registration to register for the local regional, all bets are off.

I don't disagree that some teams can "shoot themselves in the foot", but there are still many teams that just can't get into the Minneapolis regional. For 2014, I count seven metro area (within ~1 hour of Minneapolis) rookie/second year teams that attended a Duluth event instead of a Minneapolis event:
4511
4663
4693
5278
5290
5299
5340
I doubt that very many of them just really wanted to get out of the cities. Additionally, I'm sure that there are nearby veteran teams that try to get in but just can't.

Edit: trouble counting

[Abhishek R]

Oh my. Dallas is quite a scary Week 1 regional.

[Whippet]

Oh my. Dallas is quite a scary Week 1 regional.

Thanks! We try our hardest! :rolleyes:

[IndySam]

On the other hand, us Northern Indiana teams are going to be flooding into Purdue and Kokomo. Don't expect to see 135 in Indy (until State CMP of course).
I fully expect to see you guys in the goat pen.

[ehochstein]

Looks like last year it took ~18 hours to reach the 1600 team point.


1604 at 5 hours


Past 1600 registered teams at 9am ET this morning.

[Kingland093]

There are teams that just shoot themselves in the foot, you mean. For example, 2169 registered for Northern Lights today... that gives them a very low chance of getting into one of the Minneapolis events for second event registration, as Minneapolis fills (final capacity) before Duluth! If a veteran team from the cities waits until second event registration to register for the local regional, all bets are off.

Some teams (like 4215) are forbidden by their schools from attending regionals over Easter weekend so Duluth is our closest option. As for second regionals, probably Milwaukee would be the next closest

[Ken Streeter]

We are registered for Granite State for our first competition. Great! We hope to get in to GSE for our 2nd choice -- it would be great to play with Andromeda One again -- it was a blast to get to know your team on last year's bus ride to/from St. Louis!

[Michael Hill]

Looking forward to Greater Pittsburgh. Looks like a very strong mix of teams.

I see Stellar Robotics signed up too! 9848 at the MVRC is now officially FRC 5413.

I'm really excited to see how these guys do after seeing them at MVRC. Definitely on our radar.

[Aren Siekmeier]

All you web ninjas out there, does anyone want to whip up a quick reference page that pulls in the following data in a pretty table:

1. Regional Name {And link to registered teams}
2. Regional Location
3. Regional Dates
4. Number of Registered Teams
5. Number of Spots Available

FIRST used to have a page like this that made for a great quick reference for those of us who like to follow registration season. It hasn't been around for a while, but it seems like this would be easy enough to create by someone who has a little bit of time.

This looks like it would be an easy addition to the existing frclinks interface. Right now you can enter queries to frclinks that are shortcuts to certain pages on usfirst.org. For example (see URLs below), entering 1 will redirect to 2, which redirects to 3. Or you can enter 2, which redirects to 3. 3 is the team list for MNDU2 (Northern Lights Regional).


1. http://frclinks.frclinks.com/e/mndu2

2. http://frclinks.frclinks.com/usfirst.org?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmy.usfirst.org%2Fmya rea%2Findex.lasso%3Fpage%3Dteamlist%26event_type%3 DFRC%26sort_teams%3Dnumber%26year%3D2015%26event%3 Dmndu2

3. https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&sort_teams=number&year=2015&event=mndu2


For some reason, loading 3 directly always returns a blank page (literally a single newline). This has something to do with usfirst.org manages its sessions, but the frclinks redirect somehow takes care of this.

So we should be able to put any valid usfirst.org/.../index.lasso query in the url field of frclinks above. Right now frclinks has the shortcuts for team lists (/e/), awards (/e/a/), schedules (/e/s/), rankings (/e/r/), etc. but not for the details page (not sure why).

EDIT: So apparently what I did the first time worked because of the session I already had active... I still don't fully understand how usfirst.org sends data, but it appears that what I posted doesn't work. The event details query does not respond to event code, but rather to event id (eid) which I had to scrape from the event listing HTML. Also, you have to have an active session before making the request, or it says the event id is invalid. Anyone have a better idea how this all works?

But we can get this ourselves by using the stub


http://frclinks.frclinks.com/usfirst.org?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmy.usfirst.org%2Fmya rea%2Findex.lasso%3Fpage%3Devent_details%26event%3 D


and putting our desired event code at the end (for example MNDU2) which will give the event details page for that event (including working links to the team list, awards, etc. pages).

So if you're curious about a particular events capacity, you can run that single http request instead of navigating through usfirst.org. Perhaps frclinks can add this as a shortcut option (such as /e/d/).

Perhaps I will build a site that queries all events and shows all the capacities in one table.

[Mark McLeod]

As of 8:30am ET
Teams Registered:

MI = 158
MAR = 97
PNW = 110
NE = 138
IN = 46
Regionals = 1203

1748 teams total

[jwfoss]

772 teams registered within the first 3 minutes (4.3 teams per second)
838 at 4 minutes (66 teams per minute-just for this time period)
887 at 5 minutes (49 teams per minute)
926 at 6 minutes (39 teams/min)
946 at 7 minutes (20 teams/min)
972 at 8 minutes (26 teams/min)
1007 at 10 minutes (17.5 teams/min)
1067 at 15 minutes (12 teams/min)
1109 at 20 minutes (8.4 teams/min)
1180 at 30 minutes (7.1 teams/min)
1300 at 60 minutes (4 teams/min)
1397 at 90 minutes (3.2 teams/min)
1443 at 2 hours (1.5 teams/min)
1482 at 2.5 hours (1.3 teams/min)
1513 at 3 hours (1 team/min)
1563 at 4 hours (<1 team/min)
1604 at 5 hours
1700 at 9 hours 42 minutes

It must be so slow because people are actually reading the legal pages...

P.S. 1st Rookie number is 5400

Forgive my ignorance on this, but how are you pulling all this data?
Do you have the ability to see who the very first team to register was?

[Lil' Lavery]

Kudos to 4573 for being the lone team registered for the North Brunswick district event. :yikes:

[Mark McLeod]

There is one District event in each of the district systems, except for Indiana, that has only a single team registered so far.
FiM Lansing
MAR North Brunswick
NE UMass-Dartmouth
PNW Philomath PeakFor total teams I'm just using the old team list page that gives the total teams assigned to an event, rather than the newer page that lists all the team hopefuls.

[jwfoss]

For total teams I'm just using the old team list page that gives the total teams assigned to an event, rather than the newer page that lists all the team hopefuls.

Can you provide the link to this page? Thanks.

[MechEng83]

There is one District event in each of the district systems that has only a single team registered so far.

FiM Lansing
MAR North Brunswick
NE UMass-Dartmouth
PNW Philomath Peak
For total teams I'm just using the old team list page that gives the total teams assigned to an event, rather than the newer page that lists all the team hopefuls.

Don't forget about us in Indiana! We're at 24, 11, and 12 for our district events.

[Mark McLeod]

Can you provide the link to this page? Thanks.
Yes and no.

The link doesn't work directly unless you've established a session with the FIRST server. The session actually lasts forever after you've established it.
https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso probably returns a blank screen for you.

I'm trying to find an easy (though odd) way that anyone can use.

[Mark McLeod]

Don't forget about us in Indiana! We're at 24, 11, and 12 for our district events.
Indiana doesn't have an event with only a single team registered.
That's why it doesn't fit that list.

I'll change the phrasing a little.

[The_ShamWOW88]

Yes and no.

The link doesn't work directly unless you've established a session with the FIRST server. The session actually lasts forever after you've established it.
https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso probably returns a blank screen for you.

I'm trying to find an easy (though odd) way that anyone can use.

Yes, it occasionally pops up for me when I open the events page on usfirst.org but not always.

[Mark McLeod]

Here's one way that seems to work consistently.
Go to the Regional & District Events webpage: http://www3.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/regional-events
Leave the page alone for a good while to let the page session expire.
Refresh the page and you should see it switch to the old style page.
Optional, some browsers let you open just that part in it's own tab or window.

[Basel A]

As of 8:30am ET
Teams Registered:

MI = 158
MAR = 97
PNW = 110
NE = 138
IN = 46
Regionals = 1203

1748 teams total

That's only the Michigan teams that opted into their home event, correct? Because you'd have no way to tell if a team registered but opted out?

[jwfoss]

For just the team list, going through FRClinks seems to work out, try this: Team List (www.frclinks.com/t)

[Mark McLeod]

That's only the Michigan teams that opted into their home event, correct? Because you'd have no way to tell if a team registered but opted out?
I believe you are correct. Right now only the close-to-home opt-in teams seem to be listed.

Correlating with the 1st Event Registration – How Boring Was That? (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/blog-1st-Event-Registration%E2%80%93How-Boring-Was-That) FRC Blog post, it appears that at midnight ~70 to 75 teams were waitlisted.
Some of these must have been due to MI teams opting out of the home event, but there were also 10 full events that were accumulating waitlists by that time.

[PayneTrain]

I gotta say, nearly 24 hours after registration opened, FIRST really rocked it. No issues with getting registered so far. As someone who characterized HQ's web presence as something
probably controlled by 3 interns peddling a bicycle in the basement to generate enough electricity to run whatever toaster they put their content on
I was super impressed and I'm looking forward to second/unrestricted registration and FIRST Choice now instead of dreading it.

[MrTechCenter]

I gotta say, nearly 24 hours after registration opened, FIRST really rocked it. No issues with getting registered so far. As someone who characterized HQ's web presence as something

I was super impressed and I'm looking forward to second/unrestricted registration and FIRST Choice now instead of dreading it.

I'm very pleased with how event registration went, but I'm still a tad skeptical about FIRST Choice....I'd hope HQ and AndyMark are planning on running a series of test runs before the madness ensues.

[JB987]

Now, if we could just have the same level of success with booking hotels through the as yet to be identified booking agency for FIRST this year on the first day(which also has not been identified yet)...

[FrankJ]

I'm very pleased with how event registration went, but I'm still a tad skeptical about FIRST Choice....I'd hope HQ and AndyMark are planning on running a series of test runs before the madness ensues.

In the end 1st choice worked pretty well. I expect issues with it helped to make this years registration better. I don't think anybody wants a repeat of last years debacle. :]

[Aren Siekmeier]

...
In case anyone's still curious about this...

The query expressions appended to index.lasso only work if you have an active session with the server and if you send the http request with the appropriate headers. These headers should include both a cookie with your session ID, as well as the headers:
host: my.usfirst.org
referer: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?event_type=FRC&year=2015or some variation of these (I didn't rigorously test for what is required, I just mimicked the headers in Chrome's logs until it worked).

Then you can send a request to:
https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=event_details&eid=[Event ID]with your Event ID. Or you can request any other data. A list of Event IDs that I scraped from the event listing can be found at:
https://netfiles.umn.edu/users/siekm008/Shared/FRCdata/eids.csv

I wrote a python script that scrapes all the event details and builds a table in html. For example, this was scraped at ~11:00am EST on Friday, 9/26:
https://netfiles.umn.edu/users/siekm008/Shared/FRCdata/table.html

If I can find access to a webserver, I could put up a page that updates this table a few times every hour. However, processing 100+ separate https requests takes nearly a minute, so it's obviously a better idea for usfirst.org to aggregate this data for us and make it available with a single request...

[Pat Fairbank]

Yes, the event pages now require a Referer header that contains the string "usfirst.org", otherwise they show up blank.

FRCLinks gets around this by adding an intermediate redirect to another frclinks.com URL that happens to contain "usfirst.org".

If you're getting data programmatically instead of in the browser, it's pretty easy to get around this. E.g:

curl -H "Referer: usfirst.org" "https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&sort_teams=number&year=2015&event=casj"

[Aren Siekmeier]

Yes, the event pages now require a Referer header that contains the string "usfirst.org", otherwise they show up blank.

FRCLinks gets around this by adding an intermediate redirect to another frclinks.com URL that happens to contain "usfirst.org".

If you're getting data programmatically instead of in the browser, it's pretty easy to get around this. E.g:

curl -H "Referer: usfirst.org" "https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&sort_teams=number&year=2015&event=casj"


It appears even with the Referer header, the event_details page always reads eid as invalid, until a different page (such as another frclinks request or a request directly to my.usfirst.org) establishes a cookie. This cookie also needs to be supplied to the event_details page, while it's not needed for other requests.

[thatprogrammer]

4592 is registered for South Florida!

[Mark McLeod]

Northern Lights has reached initial capacity.

1800 teams showing just before 1pm ET.

97 rookies have signed up for an event.

[ttldomination]

Yes, the event pages now require a Referer header that contains the string "usfirst.org", otherwise they show up blank.

FRCLinks gets around this by adding an intermediate redirect to another frclinks.com URL that happens to contain "usfirst.org".

If you're getting data programmatically instead of in the browser, it's pretty easy to get around this. E.g:

curl -H "Referer: usfirst.org" "https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&sort_teams=number&year=2015&event=casj"


Yes.

It appears even with the Referer header, the event_details page always reads eid as invalid, until a different page (such as another frclinks request or a request directly to my.usfirst.org) establishes a cookie. This cookie also needs to be supplied to the event_details page, while it's not needed for other requests.

AND YES. I have quite a sore spot on my head from figuring out why it wasn't working. Thanks a ton.

- Sunny G.

[Kevin Pardus]

Northern Lights has reached initial capacity.

1800 teams showing just before 1pm ET.

97 rookies have signed up for an event.

Last year, 1800 teams were registered by 12:55pm on 30 Sep; if my notes are correct. So it looks like registration is running 4 days ahead of last year.

[wilsonmw04]

I logged in around 11:57 eastern and was able to register. Did it open early, or are my clocks slow?

[Mark McLeod]

It opened on time according to NIST & USNO (http://time.gov)
You can check your clocks against that.

[Electronica1]

I logged in around 11:57 eastern and was able to register. Did it open early, or are my clocks slow?

Were you using the school clocks, since they are usually 5 minutes off.

[Mark McLeod]

Last year, 1800 teams were registered by 12:55pm on 30 Sep; if my notes are correct. So it looks like registration is running 4 days ahead of last year.

Here's a graph comparing the last 3 registrations with this year.
Not quite as big a gap as it has been in the past.

[Mark McLeod]

Forgot to mention that Long Island, Kansas City and San Diego are all at initial capacity and now accumulating waitlists.

On Sunday, Midwest joined them.

[sanddrag]

I'm still interested in seeing a page with all the regionals, capacities, and open spots, like FIRST had years ago before they redid the website.

[BrendanB]

I'm still interested in seeing a page with all the regionals, capacities, and open spots, like FIRST had years ago before they redid the website.

It would also be nice if they allowed you to search by region/district. Being in a district with 6 states requires a lot of clicking to get information on our area for teams and events. If there is an easier way its not easy to find.

[allgoodthehood]

2512 is registered for Northern Lights again this year. Were excited for an exciting week 1 event!

[Mark McLeod]

Took the registered teams and grouped them by rookie years.
Here is where registration currently stands - 9/28/14 @ 9pm

This includes 5 new veteran teams that I grouped with the 2015 rookies.
4953-Upland, CA
3233-Satellite Beach, FL
3166-Sandy, UT
2682-Winterville, NC
2095-Newtown Square, PA

Rookie Year - # teams currently registered
1992-13
1993-1
1994-3
1995-10
1996-17
1997-26
1998-19
1999-45
2000-45
2001-64
2002-63
2003-49
2004-71
2005-69
2006-83
2007-87
2008-131
2009-120
2010-123
2011-157
2012-195
2013-168
2014-215
2015-109
Total-1883

[Joe G.]

Took the registered teams and grouped them by rookie years.
Here is where registration currently stands - 9/28/14 @ 9pm

This includes 5 new veteran teams that I grouped with the 2015 rookies.
4953-Upland, CA
3233-Satellite Beach, FL
3166-Sandy, UT
2682-Winterville, NC
2095-Newtown Square, PA

Rookie Year - # teams currently registered
1992-13
1993-1
1994-3
1995-10
1996-17
1997-26
1998-19
1999-45
2000-45
2001-64
2002-63
2003-49
2004-71
2005-69
2006-83
2007-87
2008-131
2009-120
2010-123
2011-157
2012-195
2013-168
2014-215
2015-109
Total-1883

Interesting information! For the veteran teams, can you post what percentage of the final 2014 numbers the current team count by rookie year represents?

[Mark McLeod]

2014
Rookie Year----# Teams Registered----% Returned for 2015
-1992----14----92.9%
-1993-----3----33.3%
-1994-----5----60.0%
-1995----10---100.0%
-1996----18----94.4%
-1997----30----86.7%
-1998----23----82.6%
-1999----52----86.5%
-2000----51----88.2%
-2001----77----83.1%
-2002----77----81.8%
-2003----58----84.5%
-2004----86----82.6%
-2005----94----73.4%
-2006---110----75.5%
-2007---127----68.5%
-2008---183----71.6%
-2009---192----62.5%
-2010---181----68.0%
-2011---271----57.9%
-2012---343----56.9%
-2013---308----54.5%
-2014---394----54.6%

Total 2014 Teams=2707

Class of 1995 wins

[Aren Siekmeier]

I'm still interested in seeing a page with all the regionals, capacities, and open spots, like FIRST had years ago before they redid the website.

This table has been updated ~10:00pm EST Sunday 9/28.
https://netfiles.umn.edu/users/siekm008/Shared/FRCdata/table.html

If I can find a suitable server to run it on, I'll post a link to something that updates more often.

[Arefin Bari]

1746 is registered for Peachtree!

Looks like a number of Florida, Tennessee, and South Carolina will be joining us this year!

This time around, we are coming with our sister team. Looking forward to see you guys there.

... oh yeah, the registration process was super fast and easy. Thank you FIRST.

[The_ShamWOW88]

I'm still interested in seeing a page with all the regionals, capacities, and open spots, like FIRST had years ago before they redid the website.

I've also had a Google Docs page with this information. I've been updating it once or twice a day as teams register.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kADS0IyLTVAlZjhhxi60l-iTPIee2xxqxG5aa7fgkcw/edit?usp=sharing

[AcesPease]

2014
Rookie Year----# Teams Registered----% Returned for 2015
-1992----14----92.9%
-1993-----3----33.3%
-1994-----5----60.0%
-1995----10---100.0%
-1996----18----94.4%
-1997----30----86.7%
-1998----23----82.6%
-1999----52----86.5%
-2000----51----88.2%
-2001----77----83.1%
-2002----77----81.8%
-2003----58----84.5%
-2004----86----82.6%
-2005----94----73.4%
-2006---110----75.5%
-2007---127----68.5%
-2008---183----71.6%
-2009---192----62.5%
-2010---181----68.0%
-2011---271----57.9%
-2012---343----56.9%
-2013---308----54.5%
-2014---394----54.6%

Total 2014 Teams=2707

Class of 1995 wins

1996 was only a little behind :)

[Taylor]

2014
Rookie Year----# Teams Registered----% Returned for 2015
-1992----14----92.9%
-1993-----3----33.3%
-1994-----5----60.0%
-1995----10---100.0%
-1996----18----94.4%
-1997----30----86.7%
-1998----23----82.6%
-1999----52----86.5%
-2000----51----88.2%
-2001----77----83.1%
-2002----77----81.8%
-2003----58----84.5%
-2004----86----82.6%
-2005----94----73.4%
-2006---110----75.5%
-2007---127----68.5%
-2008---183----71.6%
-2009---192----62.5%
-2010---181----68.0%
-2011---271----57.9%
-2012---343----56.9%
-2013---308----54.5%
-2014---394----54.6%

Total 2014 Teams=2707

Class of 1995 wins

100% of registered 2015 teams have registered. So the rookies win as well, too, right?

[Mark McLeod]

100% of registered 2015 teams have registered. So the rookies win as well, too, right?
Well, except for the other hundred or two...

[Mark McLeod]

Just broke 1900 teams 100% registered.

[Mark McLeod]

North Carolina just added in 10 teams from the waitlist.
Kevin noted awhile back that NC had added 8 more reserved slots the day before registration opened. Well, they have been assigned.

An hour later,
MN 10K Lakes added 23
MN North Star added 15


2000 teams just after noon today.

Followed by a smattering of minor waitlist changes at:
Los Angeles
Kansas City
Arizona East
Long Island
San Diego

plus
Dallas

So, being so early these must be local teams being brought into the fold.
It seems that the waitlist doesn't appear to include any Michigan non-home teams after all, as they are being drawn into Regional events.

[Kevin Pardus]

North Carolina just added in 10 teams from the waitlist.
Kevin noted awhile back that NC had added 8 more reserved slots the day before registration opened. Well, they have been assigned.

An hour later,
MN 10K Lakes added 23
MN North Star added 15

NC should still have at least 13 reserved slots remaining to use up on any other wait-listed teams from the 1st event registration (15+8-10=13). Do not think there will be many reserved slots left in NC for the upcoming 2nd event registration.

EDIT: By the end of the day NC added in a total of 12 teams from the wait-list. NC should still have at least 11 reserved slots remaining (15+8-12=11).

[Mark McLeod]

Today brought us close (7 short) to 2100, but not quite yet.
(7:00 ET in the morning we were right at 2100)

There seems to have been a number of teams dropping one event and moving to another.

Waterloo added 10 available slots and one team dropped or switched, so 11 slots there are now open.

Reaching initial capacity are:
St. Louis
Va

[Mark McLeod]

2177 team registered
215 --- MI
103 --- MAR
134 --- PNW
157 --- NE
50 ---- IN
1518 -- Regionals

The little dip in the chart there, where the lines for 2015 and 2014 come close then separate, is due to the extra 5 reserved slots held back this year.

(18) Regionals on waitlists
3 of those have significantly drawn down their waitlists

(3) Districts are at waitlist status with 2nd district registration coming up on Thursday

[MrForbes]

see you all in the morning, eh? To sign up for our second regional

[Link07]

see you all in the morning, eh? To sign up for our second regional

Only district teams can sign up for their second event tomorrow.

[wilsonmw04]

see you all in the morning, eh? To sign up for our second regional

Don't scare me like that!! I haven't paid for the first yet!

I believe we get 2nd crack at regionals on the 25th.

[MrForbes]

See...that's why I asked. I can't understand complicated instructions!

(23rd...not 25th)

[PayneTrain]

Don't scare me like that!! I haven't paid for the first yet!

I believe we get 2nd crack at regionals on the 25th.

You're probably not going to get into whatever 46-slot event you want around here if you wait until Saturday :D

[wilsonmw04]

You're probably not going to get into whatever 46-slot event you want around here if you wait until Saturday :D

:o

[Mark McLeod]

2291 teams registered before noon
Just before 2nd District registration opens.
2323 five minutes after noon.

In preparation, some FiM District events have zero'ed out their open slots even though they haven't reached initial capacity.
E.g., Traverse City is only at 21, Great Lakes Bay @ 25, Kettering @ 29

PNW Auburn Mountainview has had one team drop out or move, so they are at 30 teams.

Before noon:
MI ---- 235
MAR -- 107
PNW -- 139
NE ---- 159
IN ------ 50
Regionals - 1601

[Jon Stratis]

2177 team registered
[...]

Just saw this... and yes, we did register :p :D :p

[Jon Stratis]

3 of those have significantly drawn down their waitlists


Just to comment on this... 10,000 is at full capacity, based on previous year's numbers and the limitations of the venue for pit size. The wait list there is just people hoping someone drops out at this point!

[Mark McLeod]

Just to comment on this... 10,000 is at full capacity, based on previous year's numbers and the limitations of the venue for pit size. The wait list there is just people hoping someone drops out at this point!
That looks like it happened for one team already.
The 10K event total dropped to 62 on Oct 7 and came right back up to 63 the next day, so somebody got in.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Is 2nd regional registration up yet.
I don't see 'add event' :(

[Joe G.]

Is 2nd regional registration up yet.
I don't see 'add event' :(

Second regional opens on the 23rd. Today's opening is just for district regions.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Second regional opens on the 23rd. Today's opening is just for district regions.

Thanks all.

I feel sheepish :p

[Mark McLeod]

289 District event slots were claimed within 5 minutes.

[The_ShamWOW88]

Seems to be going smoothly too...slots picked up quickly...

[Joe G.]

Granite State, UNH, and Northeastern District Events are all at initial capacity, with five hidden slots based on last year.

[Anthony Galea]

In preparation, some FiM District events have zero'ed out their open slots even though they haven't reached initial capacity.
E.g., Traverse City is only at 21, Great Lakes Bay @ 25, Kettering @ 29

Could anyone possibly explain why these were zero'd out? Is it just to help with site traffic?

[thegnat05]

Second regional opens on the 23rd. Today's opening is just for district regions.

I'm just curious as to where this October 23rd date is coming from? According to this post from FIRST (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/calendar/registration-unrestricted-regional-event-registration-opens-2015) unrestricted regional registration opens on the 30th? Is this for your 3rd or 4th regional competition?

[Allison K]

Could anyone possibly explain why these were zero'd out? Is it just to help with site traffic?

By my count we are missing 44 teams that competed in 2014 in Michigan. 21 of those were rookies in 2014. I'd guess that they are reserving spots for younger teams and yet-to-register 2015 rookies, and they expect that those areas will have a higher concentration of young teams than the others.

Tangent - At this point in time MI teams make up approximately 11.53% of all FRC teams.

[FrankJ]

I'm just curious as to where this October 23rd date is coming from? According to this post from FIRST (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/calendar/registration-unrestricted-regional-event-registration-opens-2015) unrestricted regional registration opens on the 30th? Is this for your 3rd or 4th regional competition?

It comes of the season calendar for one place. It is for the second regional. 10/30 is for 3rd & more.

[Anthony Galea]

Maxed out FiM districts (30 is maxed out, event capacity is usually 40):

Howell
West Michigan
Center Line
Livonia
Kettering*
Traverse City*
Great Lakes Bay*

*These events have less than 30 teams

[Mark McLeod]

I'm just curious as to where this October 23rd date is coming from? According to this post from FIRST (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/calendar/registration-unrestricted-regional-event-registration-opens-2015) unrestricted regional registration opens on the 30th? Is this for your 3rd or 4th regional competition?
Try this post (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/calendar/registration-second-regional-event-registration-open-2015) instead.

[Christopher149]

Could anyone possibly explain why these were zero'd out? Is it just to help with site traffic?

For TC specifically (IMO), I think it is because last year, basically all the teams were from northern Michigan or the UP, and zeroing it out now means that FiM can sort through later to make sure that those teams make it in before, say, someone from Detroit signs up and someone has to drive >9 hours for a district event.

[Tungrus]

Maxed out FiM districts (30 is maxed out, event capacity is usually 40):
.....
*These events have less than 30 teams

FiM is holding spots for rookie home teams till they decide not to compete in their home event. Once the rookie teams sign up for two events in other locations, the spots will be open to non-home teams... this is my understanding.

[MrBasse]

FiM is holding spots for rookie home teams till they decide not to compete in their home event. Once the rookie teams sign up for two events in other locations, the spots will be open to non-home teams... this is my understanding.

Also coaches received an email stating that there will likely need to be another district event added for week two. So more teams are definitely in the works, even if they haven't gotten registered just yet.

[MooreteP]

I am surprised that the Pioneer Valley event in the New England District is so undersubscribed.

This is an outstanding venue in a cool small city.

Compared to events that are held in high schools, this venue is a great space that can handle many teams with aplomb.

I am hoping that more teams will choose this as their third district.
If not, MAR, FiM, and Indiana are welcome. (PNW, a long ride :yikes: )
A great travel "regional".
The airport (BDL) is close and there are many hotels right next to the venue.

Inter-districts, let's make this like the old days. Miscegenation rocks!

[Mark McLeod]

16 District events were taken to waitlist status today, so now 23 District events are waitlisted.

Waitlisted events/total events:
11/16 - MI
1/3 - IN
2/7 - MAR
4/10 - NE
5/9 - PNW

[Allison K]

Google Spreadsheet of Michigan registration stats is here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r5S4hem5_14fOz979EUEd2U-i1jELerbEDJtJ7rxr_Y/edit?usp=sharing)

I update manually around once per day, so exact numbers may be a little bit out of sync.

Feel free to PM me with suggestions for information and/or presentation (or post, but a PM will help minimize thread clutter).

[Mark McLeod]

I see England, I see France,...

12 --- Australia
5 ---- Brazil
159 -- Canada
2 ---- Chile
15 --- China
1 ---- Colombia
2 ---- Dominican Republic
1 ---- France
1 ---- Germany
11 --- Israel
16 --- Mexico
2 ---- Netherlands
1 ---- Singapore
1 ---- Taiwan
5 ---- Turkey
1 ---- United Arab Emirates
1 ---- United Kingdom
2135 - USA

[Tom Ore]

I see England, I see France,...

Great - now that rhyme's going to be stuck in my head the rest of the day.

[tindleroot]

Team 135 is considering trying to attend a week 1 FiM District Event. Do you MI teams think there will be any slots open at either week 1 event once the "other district" registration opens?

[P.J.]

Team 135 is considering trying to attend a week 1 FiM District Event. Do you MI teams think there will be any slots open at either week 1 event once the "other district" registration opens?

In all honesty I would guess no. There's only 10 and 11 spots left at Howell and Southfield, respectively. However there is always a chance.

Also since there's talk (per an earlier post) of adding another event Week 2, that could lead to some available spots that week if your scheduling allows for a trip to Michigan then.

[RonnieS]

Team 135 is considering trying to attend a week 1 FiM District Event. Do you MI teams think there will be any slots open at either week 1 event once the "other district" registration opens?

I would recommend coming to a week 2 ;)

Side note: I have noticed that the listed capacity is down from what some of them ended up being last year, so they could always bump up the number of teams aloud in.
-Ronnie

[Mark McLeod]

Here's a breakout
Total teams = 2393

Total ---- % ---- State/Country/Province
281 --- 11.7% --- MI
209 --- 8.7% ---- CA
163 --- 6.8% ---- MN
122 --- 5.1% ---- NY
109 --- 4.6% ---- Canada-ON
104 --- 4.3% ---- TX
99 ---- 4.1% ---- WA
66 ---- 2.8% ---- NJ
64 ---- 2.7% ---- VA
62 ---- 2.6% ---- MA
59 ---- 2.5% ---- IL
57 ---- 2.4% ---- MO
55 ---- 2.3% ---- PA
51 ---- 2.1% ---- OH
50 ---- 2.1% ---- FL
50 ---- 2.1% ---- IN
45 ---- 1.9% ---- AZ
44 ---- 1.8% ---- CT
44 ---- 1.8% ---- OK
42 ---- 1.8% ---- NC
42 ---- 1.8% ---- OR
40 ---- 1.7% ---- GA
39 ---- 1.6% ---- Canada-QC
39 ---- 1.6% ---- TN
38 ---- 1.6% ---- WI
36 ---- 1.5% ---- SC
35 ---- 1.5% ---- MD
31 ---- 1.3% ---- NH
27 ---- 1.1% ---- CO
20 ---- 0.8% ---- KS
18 ---- 0.8% ---- Mexico
17 ---- 0.7% ---- HI
17 ---- 0.7% ---- LA
17 ---- 0.7% ---- ME
15 ---- 0.6% ---- China
15 ---- 0.6% ---- Israel
14 ---- 0.6% ---- UT
13 ---- 0.5% ---- Canada-AB
13 ---- 0.5% ---- DC
13 ---- 0.5% ---- ID
13 ---- 0.5% ---- Australia (mostly NSW)
12 ---- 0.5% ---- AR
11 ---- 0.5% ---- KY
8 ----- 0.3% ---- MS
8 ----- 0.3% ---- NV
7 ----- 0.3% ---- AL
7 ----- 0.3% ---- IA
5 ----- 0.2% ---- Brazil
5 ----- 0.2% ---- Turkey
4 ----- 0.2% ---- DE
4 ----- 0.2% ---- NM
4 ----- 0.2% ---- RI
4 ----- 0.2% ---- WV
3 ----- 0.1% ---- ND
3 ----- 0.1% ---- WY
2 ----- 0.08% --- SD
2 ----- 0.08% --- VT
2 ----- 0.08% --- Chile
2 ----- 0.08% --- Dominican Republic
2 ----- 0.08% --- Netherlands
1 ----- 0.04% --- Canada-SK
1 ----- 0.04% --- AK
1 ----- 0.04% --- MT
1 ----- 0.04% --- Colombia
1 ----- 0.04% --- France
1 ----- 0.04% --- Germany
1 ----- 0.04% --- Singapore
1 ----- 0.04% --- Taiwan
1 ----- 0.04% --- United Arab Emirates
1 ----- 0.04% --- United Kingdom

Chart shows 1% and higher areas and gathers all <1% areas into one pie wedge.

[Basel A]

Mark, could you make an estimate (based on historical trends) how many teams 2015 will shake out to have? Alternatively, is your data available in non-chart form?

[Mark McLeod]

If this year follows last year and the year before at this particular date, then that'd extrapolate into a team total of 2860 for this year, but registration shows up a little differently this year because of the longer waitlists hiding teams a bit more than usual.
If overall growth is the same as last year, then that'd be about 2903 total teams for this year.

The daily registration tally is available at:
Open Registration Year-to-Year Comparison (http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/FRC_RegistrationChart.xls)
It's only updated every once in a while for the current registration period.

Note that the dates in the chart have been normalized to bring registration schedule openings/closings differences over the years into alignment for comparison purposes.
The vertical markers represent the opening of registration for: 2nd District, 2nd Regional, Unrestricted Regional, Closing, and Kickoff.

[lynca]

Thank you again for organizing FRC data Mark, it serves as another reminder that Texas is being left behind in the FRC registration curves. I've discussed Texas registration in 2014 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120776)and i will jump into it again for Texas 2015 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=130789).

Minnesota is very interesting as the 21st most populous state but #3 in FRC teams!

[tindleroot]

In all honesty I would guess no. There's only 10 and 11 spots left at Howell and Southfield, respectively. However there is always a chance.

Also since there's talk (per an earlier post) of adding another event Week 2, that could lead to some available spots that week if your scheduling allows for a trip to Michigan then.

Any idea where the new event might be held if it happens?

[Mark McLeod]

Reached 2400 teams

[BriteBacon]

Any idea where the new event might be held if it happens?

If I were to guess I'd say either the middle or west side of Michigan, considering the other week two events are on the east side of the state.

[VioletElizabeth]

Sorry if this is a dumb question—but I can't find the Colombian team. Where are you getting this data? I tried searching on usfirst.org but Colombia wasn't on the list of countries I could look in.

[Andrew Lawrence]

Sorry if this is a dumb question—but I can't find the Colombian team. Where are you getting this data? I tried searching on usfirst.org but Colombia wasn't on the list of countries I could look in.

5311 is not registered for any 2015 regional event, Violet, so they are not currently searchable.

[Mark McLeod]

Columbia Team 5521
Sopó - Cundinamarca, Colombia

Signed up for the Los Angeles Regional
I'm only counting teams that are registered for an event.

[Mark McLeod]

Pittsburgh added 10 teams bringing them up close to, if not at, max capacity.

Smoky Mtns reached initial capacity.

Australia reached initial capacity.

Indianapolis District reached initial capacity.
---------------------

This is what I got...

Regionals that are between initial and max capacity:
Lake Superior Regional
Northern Lights Regional
Dallas Regional
Greater Toronto Central Regional
Greater Pittsburgh Regional
Australia Regional
Los Angeles Regional
Orlando Regional
Greater Kansas City Regional
Arizona East Regional
St. Louis Regional
North Carolina Regional
New York Tech Valley Regional
Virginia Regional
Peachtree Regional
SBPLI Long Island Regional
Oklahoma Regional
San Diego Regional
Silicon Valley Regional
Midwest Regional
Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional
Smoky Mountains Regional




Districts at waitlists:
FiM Howell Event
FiM Southfield Event
FiM Kettering University Event
FiM Waterford Event
FiM Woodhaven Event
FiM Gull Lake Event
FiM Traverse City Event
FiM West Michigan Event
FiM Great Lakes Bay Region Event
FiM St. Joseph Event
FiM Center Line Event
FiM Livonia Event
FiM Troy Event
IN Indianapolis Event
IN Purdue Event
MAR Hatboro-Horsham Event
MAR Mt. Olive Event
MAR Springside Chestnut Hill Event

MAR Bridgewater-Raritan Event
MAR Upper Darby Event
NE Granite State Event
NE Reading Event
NE UNH Event
NE Northeastern University Event
NE Hartford Event
PNW Oregon City Event
PNW Auburn Mountainview Event
PNW Glacier Peak Event
PNW Wilsonville Event
PNW Mount Vernon Event
PNW Central Washington University Event
PNW Auburn Event

[VioletElizabeth]

Columbia Team 5521
Sopó - Cundinamarca, Colombia

Signed up for the Los Angeles Regional
I'm only counting teams that are registered for an event.

Thank you.

Andrew Lawrence, I was aware that they were not registered (through http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/team/265389?ProgramCode=FRC), I was curious to know who the other team was, as googling "Colombia FRC" got me only the Space Stars. (Sorry, I don't know how to quote multiple posts.)

For some reason, googling "FRC 5521" does get me to http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/team/324821?ProgramCode=FRC, which seems inaccessible through any other means, as Colombia continues to be absent from the drop-down menu for countries in the search page. Is this the only way to reach this page?

PS My name is Elizabeth, not Violet. (I just like the color purple.)

[Bob Steele]

16 District events were taken to waitlist status today, so now 23 District events are waitlisted.

Waitlisted events/total events:
11/16 - MI
1/3 - IN
2/7 - MAR
4/10 - NE
5/9 - PNW

Does ANYONE know why no one can sign up for a third district until December 11th? Actually District 3rd plays have a window of December 11th until December 30th. Given the fact that District teams have priority for extra slots over inter District teams... an inter District team might have to wait until after Christmas to know that they are going to be let in.

I don't understand why 3rd District Event registration is SIX WEEKS after open registration for regionals.(October 30)

Does anyone have any idea why this is? Was it this way last year too?

Just wondering

[Allison K]

Does ANYONE know why no one can sign up for a third district until December 11th? Actually District 3rd plays have a window of December 11th until December 30th. Given the fact that District teams have priority for extra slots over inter District teams... an inter District team might have to wait until after Christmas to know that they are going to be let in.

I don't understand why 3rd District Event registration is SIX WEEKS after open registration for regionals.(October 30)

Does anyone have any idea why this is? Was it this way last year too?

Just wondering

Perhaps they are waiting until after the payment deadline to make sure that no more rookie teams (or late registering veteran teams) pop up before they give those spots away? That's what I'd guess for FiM. The past two years they've ended up adding an event (or two) pretty late in the fall (or even not until build season started I think) so I'd guess that managing total available event spots and getting everybody assigned is rather time consuming, thus necessitating a much later time period for 3rd event registration. The waiting is kind of a bummer though.

[Tom Ore]

Try:

frclinks.com/t

This will generate a list of all teams currently registered.

[Jim Wilks]

I see England, I see France,...

12 --- Australia
5 ---- Brazil
159 -- Canada
2 ---- Chile
15 --- China
1 ---- Colombia
2 ---- Dominican Republic
1 ---- France
1 ---- Germany
11 --- Israel
16 --- Mexico
2 ---- Netherlands
1 ---- Singapore
1 ---- Taiwan
5 ---- Turkey
1 ---- United Arab Emirates
1 ---- United Kingdom
2135 - USA


How do we find out the team #, etc on the teams here who are not from the major player countries and thus not easily searchable on usfirst.org?

[Christopher149]

How do we find out the team #, etc on the teams here who are not from the major player countries and thus not easily searchable on usfirst.org?

frclinks.frclinks.com/t, sort by location. Non-USA locations will be on the first two pages (of 250 teams). No countries appear after USA.

[Pat Fairbank]

FRCLinks also supports search-by-area.

http://frclinks.com/t/CA-USA
http://frclinks.com/t/Canada
http://frclinks.com/t/Colombia

[Tungrus]

Does anyone know when FIM will announce wait listed teams?

[MrBasse]

Does anyone know when FIM will announce wait listed teams?

In my experience it is announced almost too late to make other plans. You would be wise to have the coach for the team email Gail and find out where on the list you are. Any further down than three or four and it is best to look elsewhere. Otherwise you just have to wait and hope.

We definitely preferred knowing for a fact that we would drive a few hours further over simply hoping to get in to an event.

[Mark McLeod]

2500 teams now.

[Mark McLeod]

In regards to the FRC Blog post: Helping Rookie Teams (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/blog-Helping-Rookie-Teams)

Here is a chart comparing rookie registration over the same period to date in 2013, 2014, and 2015.
Note some of the data is interpolated and that's the unnaturally straight parts.
The start day for each year was one day off of the year before, so that was normalized to a common start date (this year's).
2014 had an unusually high initial registration for rookies for some reason.

[Richard Wallace]

2014 had an unusually high initial registration for rookies for some reason.
I wonder if a surge in support for FIRST somewhere near the Great Lakes might have had a "hand" in that?:rolleyes:

[Basel A]

I wonder if a surge in support for FIRST somewhere near the Great Lakes might have had a "hand" in that?:rolleyes:

Yeah, probably a little impact (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1400644#post1400644)

[Tom Ore]

More teams from China registered. Total of 22 now:

7 - Australia
5 - Las Vegas
4 - New York City
3 - North Star
2 - 10,000 Lakes
1 - Midwest

[Aren Siekmeier]

If I can find a suitable server to run it on, I'll post a link to something that updates more often.

Here's a link. (http://173.255.246.196/)

Right now it updates every hour. Starting tomorrow at noon EDT it will update every 5 minutes or so, tapering back off to every hour.

[lynca]

More teams from China registered. Total of 22 now:


This is fantastic growth for FRC in China. Color me impressed
A chinese regional should definitely happen in 2016 if all these teams stick around.

[Jon Stratis]

2014 had an unusually high initial registration for rookies for some reason.

Didn't Michigan have some special rookie Grant thing last year that boosted their numbers up a ton? Could that have accounted for some of the initial increase? I know many rookie teams apply for the NASA Grant or others that don't come in until later, so they have to sit around and wait to see if they'll have money before registering. Having a group that knows they have money before things get started would boost initial numbers.

[Mr V]

Didn't Michigan have some special rookie Grant thing last year that boosted their numbers up a ton? Could that have accounted for some of the initial increase? I know many rookie teams apply for the NASA Grant or others that don't come in until later, so they have to sit around and wait to see if they'll have money before registering. Having a group that knows they have money before things get started would boost initial numbers.

Late rookie registration is often due to teams that are waiting to hear if they have received a grant or not. In WA we have a grant from the state that for rookies that is in the amount of $7000 which did not close until last Thur. Typically it takes a week or more for that grant to be approved and the applicants to receive notice that they will be awarded the grant. Then they have to complete some steps to claim the grant and wait some more until they actually receive the funds.

There is always a issue on deciding when to have the grant deadline. I've found that I typically have a very hard time getting responses from those who might want to start a team until school has been in session for a couple of weeks. So if you have the deadline early enough that they will be notified that they have the grant before first event registration and you'll be eliminating many potential rookies. I always tell the potential teams that are on my radar to go ahead, register a team and register for an event even if they don't know if they will receive funding since the worst that will happen if they don't pay the registration fee is that they will loose their spot. Despite this many do not even begin team registration until they have the cash in hand.

[Mark McLeod]

2600 teams are fully registered and listed for events.
It took 7 days to add 100 teams.

[Wetzel]

Will be interesting to see which events snap full at noon today. I was surprised by Troy last year, though in hindsight it makes perfect sense how desirable it was.

Wetzel

[Shrub]

The regionals with the most teams currently registered are Minnesota North Star and 10k Lakes, at 58 and 63. I can't wait to see what other events fill up :D

[Mark McLeod]

There are 13 Regionals with fewer than 10 open slots showing, not counting the reserved spots.
While these other double digit choices offer a better chance of getting in:

36 -- South Florida Regional
22 -- Palmetto Regional
18 -- Georgia Southern Classic Regional
16 -- Mexico City Regional
29 -- Arkansas Rock City Regional
32 -- Central Valley Regional
27 -- Israel Regional
10 -- Greater Toronto East Regional
16 -- Alamo Regional
11 -- Waterloo Regional
10 -- Central Illinois Regional
16 -- Bayou Regional
16 -- Wisconsin Regional
12 -- Colorado Regional
13 -- Hawaii Regional
22 -- Las Vegas Regional
16 -- Buckeye Regional
33 -- Hub City Regional
19 -- Windsor Essex Great Lakes Regional
33 -- Queen City Regional
21 -- Lone Star Regional

[The_ShamWOW88]

We'll have a decent idea after today how many teams we're down or up from last year.

Still 364 teams from last season that haven't registered for an event this year.

[Mark McLeod]

I don't expect much of a jump in teams as a result of 2nd Regionals opening.
We'll historically see a gain of maybe 30 teams today.

Teams hidden on waitlists won't appear until more events start clearing them.

[sanddrag]

I don't see how to register in TIMS. What do I click on?

[Arefin Bari]

Same here... not finding the button to add event... :ahh:

[Arefin Bari]

Same here... not finding the button to add event... :ahh:

never mind. it worked!

[DarrinMunter]

The add event button was a little late showing up for me too.

[Wetzel]

Got into Mexico! Vamos a Mexico!

[sanddrag]

It looks like no additional slots have opened for today's registration at San Diego, Ventura, or Phoenix west, which are all full. We have full events at only 21 teams, during second registration! Huh? Combined with not knowing where we are on the waitlist and the fact that events fill to capacity in a matter of mere minutes, this is ludicrous. How are we supposed to know where to register? How can someone possibly take a gamble on a waitlist of unknown position and unknown additional capacity forthcoming, and miss out on registering for something that's open now. This system "inhales audibly." Not happy. Vegas it is for now. Our school administration and parents are going to throw a fit.

And also, why did FIRST ever remove that single page that showed all event capacities, number of registered teams, and open spots? We REALLY need that back.

[mrnoble]

Forgive my ignorance. We'd like to attend three regionals this year, but I can't figure out how to make that happen. Any ideas out there?

[DarrinMunter]

Forgive my ignorance. We'd like to attend three regionals this year, but I can't figure out how to make that happen. Any ideas out there?

One week from now, is open registration, you can select your third one then.

[Nemo]

Forgive my ignorance. We'd like to attend three regionals this year, but I can't figure out how to make that happen. Any ideas out there?

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/calendar/

There you can see that unrestricted registration starts next week. You'll have to wait and see what's still available.

[mrnoble]

Thanks everyone. This is our first time trying so many.

[czeke]

I hear ya, sandrag. We're on the waitlist for Northern Lights. The regionals fill up pretty fast.

[Aren Siekmeier]

It looks like no additional slots have opened for today's registration at San Diego, Ventura, or Phoenix west, which are all full. Combined with not knowing where we are on the waitlist, this is ludicrous. How are we supposed to know where to register? How can someone possibly take a gamble on a waitlist of unknown position and additional capacity forthcoming, and miss out on registering for something that's open now. This system "inhales audibly." Not happy.

Same for Northern Lights and Lake Superior, the two Duluth, MN regionals (and probably others), which are are both "full" at 15-20 below their usual capacities.

And also, why did FIRST ever remove that single page that showed all event capacities, number of registered teams, and open spots? We REALLY need that back.

This page (http://173.255.246.196/) is updating about every minute.

[Boe]

It looks like no additional slots have opened for today's registration at San Diego, Ventura, or Phoenix west, which are all full.

It appears LSR and Northern Lights have not added any slots either for today...

[ehochstein]

It appears LSR and Northern Lights have not added any slots either for today...

They'll be added as time goes on - waitlists are for late registering rookies and teams that haven't registered for their first event.

Minnesota teams are known for registering late, which is why there are so many waitlist spots this year.

[topgun]

We need another Regional in Minnesota or we need to add one in Iowa!

Judging by how many regionals are at capacity, we need more regionals everywhere.

[Doug G]

It looks like no additional slots have opened for today's registration at San Diego, Ventura, or Phoenix west, which are all full. We have full events at only 21 teams, during second registration! Huh? Combined with not knowing where we are on the waitlist and the fact that events fill to capacity in a matter of mere minutes, this is ludicrous. How are we supposed to know where to register? How can someone possibly take a gamble on a waitlist of unknown position and unknown additional capacity forthcoming, and miss out on registering for something that's open now. This system "inhales audibly." Not happy. Vegas it is for now. Our school administration and parents are going to throw a fit.

Yeah I'm feeling that doing three regionals on the west coast (without back to back) is going to be an impossibility this year.

On a completely different topic but the same sort of issue... WE NEED MORE COMPETITIONS!! This is happening in FLL and Vex (maybe FTC as well?). We are hosting a dual FLL event (32 teams - sharing it with 2085) because not enough folks are hosting events to meet demand. We are hosting multiple Vex events (sharing it with a middle school vex team), and I am flooded with emails from teams that are begging to participate. I am so tempted to start charging extra $$ because the demand is so high!! (I won't do that.)

[Mark McLeod]

It's still changing but here's a snapshot sample of what's left:

29 --- Hub City Regional
26 --- Windsor Essex Great Lakes Regional
24 --- South Florida Regional
23 --- Israel Regional
20 --- Queen City Regional
18 --- Lone Star Regional
15 --- Mexico City Regional
12 --- Arkansas Rock City Regional
10 --- Waterloo Regional
10 --- Las Vegas Regional
9 ---- Central Valley Regional
6 ---- Alamo Regional
6 ---- Hawaii Regional
5 ---- North Bay Regional
4 ---- Colorado Regional
3 ---- Bayou Regional
1 ---- Georgia Southern Classic Regional
1 ---- Montreal Regional

[Andrew Lawrence]

Yeah I'm feeling that doing three regionals on the west coast (without back to back) is going to be an impossibility this year.

On a completely different topic but the same sort of issue... WE NEED MORE COMPETITIONS!! This is happening in FLL and Vex (maybe FTC as well?). We are hosting a dual FLL event (32 teams - sharing it with 2085) because not enough folks are hosting events to meet demand. We are hosting multiple Vex events (sharing it with a middle school vex team), and I am flooded with emails from teams that are begging to participate. I am so tempted to start charging extra $$ because the demand is so high!! (I won't do that.)

What you want is districts. Districts in California is what is how we solve the population problem and get more matches.

[Wetzel]

Districts are coming.

[aldaeron]

Judging by how many regionals are at capacity, we need more regionals everywhere.

Since on of our mentors organizes and runs the CO regional I have a little insight into how difficult this is. Regionals are very expensive and it is hard to find a space that is big enough and cheap enough and then staff it with volunteers. It is also challenging to convince people to take 2 days off to volunteer at the regional (thank you, thank you, thank you to those who do every year). And that is just part of what happens locally. Since the field ships on multiple big rig trucks the movement of the fields is no small effort (travelling salesman optimization anyone?). Great job FIRST HQ for making this happen every year!

-matto-

[Nemo]

Since on of our mentors organizes and runs the CO regional I have a little insight into how difficult this is. Regionals are very expensive and it is hard to find a space that is big enough and cheap enough and then staff it with volunteers. It is also challenging to convince people to take 2 days off to volunteer at the regional (thank you, thank you, thank you to those who do every year). And that is just part of what happens locally. Since the field ships on multiple big rig trucks the movement of the fields is no small effort (travelling salesman optimization anyone?). Great job FIRST HQ for making this happen every year!

-matto-

Agreed; in some ways it's amazing that we have as many events as we do. The volunteers give a ton to make it happen.

[sanddrag]

Yeah I'm feeling that doing three regionals on the west coast (without back to back) is going to be an impossibility this year.I was struggling just to get two!

I know registration fills in a matter of seconds for some events. As soon as it opened, I waitlisted for San Diego, thinking maybe they just hadn't added the spots yet. Then I checked and Ventura showed openings. So I went to register there, and after I had, it confirmed me on the waitlist. At risk of jeopardizing a second regional at all, I registered for Vegas which still had spots open. I called FRC Team support, and they indicated the waitlists were short, and that if I waitlisted for San Diego, I'd likely get in once additional spots were added, because the rookies are not showing up in the quantities expected. So, I went back into TIMS and tried to switch the registration for Vegas back to wait list for San Diego. Can't do it. Can't re-join a waitlist you've previously dropped and FIRST confirms, that's by design. You get one chance to decide where to go. In 13 years of doing FRC, I've never known about this "feature" in TIMS.

They really need to do a preference and lottery system, like FIRST Choice. Or at least something different.

[Doug G]

What you want is districts. Districts in California is what is how we solve the population problem and get more matches.

Absolutely! What's the latest on that front... 2016-2017? It is a problem though does span outside of FRC though.

[Doug G]

I was struggling just to get two!
...
They really need to do a preference and lottery system, like FIRST Choice. Or at least something different.

I agree. Boy how things are different these days. I used to have our students and parents plan for where we wanted to go, now I just tell them we will have to see what's available and go from there.

[Bryan Herbst]

It looks like no additional slots have opened for today's registration at San Diego, Ventura, or Phoenix west, which are all full. We have full events at only 21 teams, during second registration! Huh? Combined with not knowing where we are on the waitlist and the fact that events fill to capacity in a matter of mere minutes, this is ludicrous. How are we supposed to know where to register? How can someone possibly take a gamble on a waitlist of unknown position and unknown additional capacity forthcoming, and miss out on registering for something that's open now. This system "inhales audibly." Not happy. Vegas it is for now. Our school administration and parents are going to throw a fit.

And also, why did FIRST ever remove that single page that showed all event capacities, number of registered teams, and open spots? We REALLY need that back.

The best way to find out what your chances are of getting in off of the waitlist is to contact someone from your event's planning committee. They can see exactly who is on the waitlist and they have a pretty good idea of which teams they will be adding and in what order.

[waialua359]

I was struggling just to get two!

I know registration fills in a matter of seconds for some events. As soon as it opened, I waitlisted for San Diego, thinking maybe they just hadn't added the spots yet. Then I checked and Ventura showed openings. So I went to register there, and after I had, it confirmed me on the waitlist. At risk of jeopardizing a second regional at all, I registered for Vegas which still had spots open. I called FRC Team support, and they indicated the waitlists were short, and that if I waitlisted for San Diego, I'd likely get in once additional spots were added, because the rookies are not showing up in the quantities expected. So, I went back into TIMS and tried to switch the registration for Vegas back to wait list for San Diego. Can't do it. Can't re-join a waitlist you've previously dropped and FIRST confirms, that's by design. You get one chance to decide where to go. In 13 years of doing FRC, I've never known about this "feature" in TIMS.

They really need to do a preference and lottery system, like FIRST Choice. Or at least something different.
During the 2013 season, we noticed also that you couldnt resign up for a regional you previously registered for. We were lucky that we didnt have to. We dropped one event to get the other since we noticed the other regional was filling up fast. In fact, we got the very last spot at Boilermaker 2013 1 hour into the registration initial regional sign up. Lucky for us it all worked out.:)

[Larry Lewis]

Seems like finding a second regional this year is tougher for the NYS teams. Any events that had openings filled up quickly in the second registration cycle. Also, with the NE and MAR Districts, attending events in that area is not an option. Just tried to register for our second regional event and got waitlisted not too long after registration opened. I am hoping that we can work with the regional planning committee to see if there are spaces available. It just makes it hard to plan when you don't know if you are going to an event, and the school needs to know where you are going.
I'm hoping the schedule will work out better next year where more events in our area will be available for us to attend.

[topgun]

How soon do the waitlists get cleared so that I will know whether or not we will be attending an event?

[Bryan Herbst]

How soon do the waitlists get cleared so that I will know whether or not we will be attending an event?

Contact your regional director. There is no set date for when they will add how many teams.

[Mark McLeod]

2607 teams - 100 shy of last year's total teams (2707).

[Cory]

Absolutely! What's the latest on that front... 2016-2017? It is a problem though does span outside of FRC though.

No way it's coming in the 2016 season. 2017 seems like it could be doubtful too.

[Andrew Lawrence]

No way it's coming in the 2016 season. 2017 seems like it could be doubtful too.

That's slightly depressing...

[Mark McLeod]

Districts remaining open:

MAR District
13 --- North Brunswick Event

Indiana District
11 --- Kokomo City of Firsts Event sponsored by AndyMark


PNW District
9 ---- West Valley Event
6 ---- Philomath Event

Michigan District
1 ---- Escanaba Event
1 ---- Lansing Event
20 --- Bedford Event

NE District
24 --- UMass - Dartmouth Event
9 ---- Pioneer Valley Event
8 ---- Rhode Island Event
7 ---- Pine Tree Event
6 ---- Waterbury Event

[Kevin Pardus]

2607 teams - 100 shy of last year's total teams (2707).

Between now and April it could be an interesting roller-coster ride, if last year is any indication of how long it will take getting to that 2707. The ride (timeline) based on Mark's inputs for Registration 2014 are as follows:
18 Nov 13: crossed over the 2700 registered teams milestone
10 Dec 13: the high point was 2797 registered teams
10 Jan 14: then down to 2733 registered teams, following the 'purge'
13 Feb 14: then down to 2726 registered teams
26 Mar 14: settling down to 2710 registered teams
Finally ending at 2707 for the number of registered teams

[nikeairmancurry]

2607 teams - 100 shy of last year's total teams (2707).

There are a few Michigan teams who have not registered for events because they are sitting on the wait-list for a district spot.

[Mark McLeod]

There are a few Michigan teams who have not registered for events because they are sitting on the wait-list for a district spot.
That's true for teams across the board every year.
As long as it's somewhat consistent each year then it gives us a pattern to anticipate and gives us reasonable year-to-year comparisons.

Eventually they all get released.

[MrTechCenter]

We almost didn't get into a second regional this year, the only regional that had any openings in California after the first minute f registration today was Central Valley. While we love CVR and it got into our schedule better than last year, it's kind of disappointing to not have any choice. And we were planning on doing three regionals this year too which is now an impossibility.

[AdamHeard]

We almost didn't get into a second regional this year, the only regional that had any openings in California after the first minute f registration today was Central Valley. While we love CVR and it got into our schedule better than last year, it's kind of disappointing to not have any choice. And we were planning on doing three regionals this year too which is now an impossibility.

Keep in mind most CA events (LA being an exception, haven't looked at SVR yet) have a 15 team reserve right now still. That's a combined 60+ plays opening up.

As for 3 events, I think we're past the days of any given team assuming they can get 3 plays in CA. Too crowded unfortunately.

A lot of CA teams are looking at nonCA events for their 2nd event.

[MrTechCenter]

Keep in mind most CA events (LA being an exception, haven't looked at SVR yet) have a 15 team reserve right now still. That's a combined 60+ plays opening up.

As for 3 events, I think we're past the days of any given team assuming they can get 3 plays in CA. Too crowded unfortunately.

A lot of CA teams are looking at nonCA events for their 2nd event.

We were looking at either Arizona West in Week 6 or Utah in Week 3 and both have already filled-up as well, so unless either of those regionals has an extensive waitlist capacity, we can't even do that.

[AdamHeard]

We were looking at either Arizona West in Week 6 or Utah in Week 3 and both have already filled-up as well, so unless either of those regionals has an extensive waitlist capacity, we can't even do that.

I believe every event has a 15 team reserve.

Some events that filled during initial registration started clearing their reserves and moving teams onto the official list already (like LA).

If you talk to RD's and are patient, you'll be able to get it worked out.

[MrTechCenter]

I believe every event has a 15 team reserve.

Some events that filled during initial registration started clearing their reserves and moving teams onto the official list already (like LA).

If you talk to RD's and are patient, you'll be able to get it worked out.

Awesome! Thanks for the tip.

[Mark McLeod]

Current team total by country:

1----Colombia
1----Dominican Republic
1----France
1----Germany
1----Singapore
1----Taiwan
1----United Arab Emirates
2----United Kingdom
2----Netherlands
3----Chile
5----Turkey
5----Brazil
20---Australia
23---Mexico
25---China
29---Israel
187--Canada
2344-USA

2652-Total

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Remaining places open for immediate registration...

Regionals:
24 ---- Hub City Regional
21 ---- Windsor Essex Great Lakes Regional
17 ---- Israel Regional
13 ---- Mexico City Regional
13 ---- Queen City Regional
8 ----- South Florida Regional
7 ----- Waterloo Regional
2 ----- Central Illinois Regional


Districts
NE:
24 ---- NE District - UMass - Dartmouth District
9 ----- NE District - Pioneer Valley District
8 ----- NE District - Rhode Island District
7 ----- NE District - Pine Tree District
5 ----- NE District - Waterbury District

FIM:
20 ---- FIM District - Bedford District
1 ----- FIM District - Escanaba District

MAR:
13 ---- MAR District - North Brunswick District

IN:
10 ---- IN District - Kokomo City of Firsts District

PNW:
8 ----- PNW District - West Valley District
6 ----- PNW District - Philomath District