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maxgmeyerson
06-10-2014, 19:46
I am just a simple mechanical guy, but hey, word clouds are cool. so I thought that it would be cool to make this little design. Let me know if you think it's cool. I do. Which counts for something, right?

https://tagul.com/show/djgd7s7dssd2/Petoskey%20Robotics
Christopher149
06-10-2014, 19:50
It's not really an image per se, so here's a working link -> https://tagul.com/show/djgd7s7dssd2/Petoskey%20Robotics
thatprogrammer
06-10-2014, 19:51
Cool! Mind if we use this for something?
cgmv123
06-10-2014, 19:54
Cool! Mind if we use this for something?

Not without the permission (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/About_Us/UseofUSFIRSTandLEGOGroupTrademarksandCopyrightedMa terials_FINAL.pdf) of FIRST (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/FRC_Communications_Resource_Center/Branding_and_Logos/FIRST_BrandGuidelines_web.pdf).
thatprogrammer
06-10-2014, 19:58
Not without the permission (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/About_Us/UseofUSFIRSTandLEGOGroupTrademarksandCopyrightedMa terials_FINAL.pdf) of FIRST (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/FRC_Communications_Resource_Center/Branding_and_Logos/FIRST_BrandGuidelines_web.pdf).

Oh thanks, didn't realize that we have to get permission in this case. I'd like to get the permission of the creator of this image as well :)
MrBasse
06-10-2014, 20:27
Oh thanks, didn't realize that we have to get permission in this case. I'd like to get the permission of the creator of this image as well :)

Judging by page 11 of the design standards I would hazard a guess that they would, and should, say no. If this will be displayed publicly, or for anyone other than you to see, it is against their policy for logo use. They don't even want you to place a border around it or display it rotated.

Also, you can use their logo as long as it is for a direct team activity (section II.1 of the document linked above). But if it is for a seminar or clinic stick to just the wordmark (section II.2).

Just remember, the logo is a part of their identity, it is their property and it is defended pretty strongly by the wording in those documents.
thatprogrammer
06-10-2014, 20:34
Judging by page 11 of the design standards I would hazard a guess that they would, and should, say no. If this will be displayed publicly, or for anyone other than you to see, it is against their policy for logo use. They don't even want you to place a border around it or display it rotated.

Also, you can use their logo as long as it is for a direct team activity (section II.1 of the document linked above). But if it is for a seminar or clinic stick to just the wordmark (section II.2).

Just remember, the logo is a part of their identity, it is their property and it is defended pretty strongly by the wording in those documents.

Good points, but I think I'll ask directly just to be safe. If they do approve, it'd be nice as a little poster for demonstration on what FIRST is about for rookies if not, I'll just have to work that much harder to teach them all of the things FIRST covers.:D
asid61
06-10-2014, 23:23
Very nice wordle! Bookmarked.
cadandcookies
06-10-2014, 23:27
Judging by page 11 of the design standards I would hazard a guess that they would, and should, say no. If this will be displayed publicly, or for anyone other than you to see, it is against their policy for logo use. They don't even want you to place a border around it or display it rotated.

Also, you can use their logo as long as it is for a direct team activity (section II.1 of the document linked above). But if it is for a seminar or clinic stick to just the wordmark (section II.2).

Just remember, the logo is a part of their identity, it is their property and it is defended pretty strongly by the wording in those documents.

They do tend to be flexible as long as you ask. Considering some of the ridiculous stuff they've done previously (see: Einstein 2013), they'll probably be willing to at least consider it.
DCA Fan
07-10-2014, 19:35
Chances are they will say yes. Something like this constitute a piece of art that is derived from the logo, but isn't actually the logo (I can't see anyone shrinking this down to put as an icon, for example).
MrBasse
07-10-2014, 22:50
Chances are they will say yes. Something like this constitute a piece of art that is derived from the logo, but isn't actually the logo (I can't see anyone shrinking this down to put as an icon, for example).

I completely agree they might say yes, but I more like to lean towards teaching the right thing to do. It is still derived from their logo/property and is very much similar to the way that Shepard Fairey got in hot water with the Associated Press over his Obama Hope poster. That was a piece of art created from a photograph that no one even recognized for three years...

Sorry, I just got done talking about copyright in my graphic design class and I can't let go of the sad truths of ownership of an image and other intelectual property.