2015 New York City Regional

[Rich Wong]

NYC Regional is going International again for 2015!

1x Brazil
4x China
2x United Kingdom
2x Turkey

If other attending teams have relationship or are supporting any these International teams let me know since the pit layout is starting.
:]

[fred1860]

all the team # 1860 are very excited about the beginning of the New York City Regional . It will certainly be a very good event . I would like to exchange information with this regional teams about the game, strategy , over the city.

good luck to all

1860
Cephas brazilian team

[MooreteP]

Considering the higher quality of the webcasts this year, I am nostalgic.

[Ether]

Has anyone seen an announcement from FIRST explaining why the NYNY Match Results qual match data (http://frc-events.usfirst.org/2015/NYNY/qualifications) are incomplete?

[MooreteP]

They have nostalgia?

[Ether]

Your post was linked to mine (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18655&stc=1&d=1426450821), but seems unrelated (unless I am missing some inside joke).

[MooreteP]

My previous post was a jibe about how the quality of the webcast reminded me of years past, when the webcasts were just beginning.

Like the 5-1/4" floppy, I don't necessarily miss them.

The ability to get (almost) real time data from competitions as they happen amazes the old me.

The new me has become impatient and decided to transfer my floppies to my iomega 100 MB Zip Drive if I can find the cables for my Timex Sinclair 1000.
WYSIWIG? What's WYSIWIG? :ahh:

[Ether]

5-1/4" floppy

I finally threw out a box of 500 of those last summer. Including copies of Harvard Graphics, WordPerfect, Borland Paradox, Watcom C, and DesqView.

iomega 100 MB Zip Drive

I still have 4 of those in my computer parts closet.

They're backups for the hundred or so ZIP disks I haven't yet transferred to other media.

Timex Sinclair 1000

I built 2 of those in 1982.

[Sperkowsky]

It was a good regional even if I didn't compete at it. Congratz to the winning Alliance.

[MooreteP]

NYC was won by the #6 Alliance!

RoboTigers from Long Island City, 1796, The Griffins from Londontown 1884, The Saunders Droid Factory from Yonkers 2344.

Loving this games outcomes and how scouting and alliance "meshing" is worth so much.

[jds2001]

NYC was won by the #6 Alliance!

RoboTigers from Long Island City, 1796, The Griffins from Londontown 1884, The Saunders Droid Factory from Yonkers 2344.

Loving this games outcomes and how scouting and alliance "meshing" is worth so much.

I was a scorer and scored that last match (from the VIP seating side of the red - aka winning - alliance). It was a close one! Loved the last second "get a tote on the platform!" move

Now I'm exhausted. Can I sleep for a week? Can't wait to score at CMP as well!!

[plnyyanks]

My previous post was a jibe about how the quality of the webcast reminded me of years past, when the webcasts were just beginning.


Has anyone seen an announcement from FIRST explaining why the NYNY Match Results qual match data (http://frc-events.usfirst.org/2015/NYNY/qualifications) are incomplete?


The field had a really slow internet connection. I'd guess the Javits Center charged an arm and a leg for anything better. Most of the match results uploads are pretty big (they include some log data), so they failed often due to the slow speeds. The rankings uploads are much smaller, that's why they were going through regularly. I know that it seemed to work here and there, which is why the results came in chunks. Not much we could've done, sorry.

I want to say the webcast was on a different connection (I can't say for sure), but I doubt it was much better.

I posted a summary of what I saw fieldside as FTAA over on this thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1457911&postcount=30).

[ThunderousPrime]

Is there recorded match footage from this regional?

Also does anyone have pictures of 395, 743, 1155, 1660, or 2265's robots?

[RoboTigers1796]

The field had a really slow internet connection. I'd guess the Javits Center charged an arm and a leg for anything better. Most of the match results uploads are pretty big (they include some log data), so they failed often due to the slow speeds. The rankings uploads are much smaller, that's why they were going through regularly. I know that it seemed to work here and there, which is why the results came in chunks. Not much we could've done, sorry.

I want to say the webcast was on a different connection (I can't say for sure), but I doubt it was much better.

I posted a summary of what I saw fieldside as FTAA over on this thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1457911&postcount=30).

Can confirm Javits charges 2 arms, a leg, and a pinky toe for internet speeds acceptable for a sustainable stream and internet in general, even just for one connection drop at the entire event. We, in collaboration with NYC FIRST, tried our best to find a way to make the webcast work in the beginning but finally succumbed to their .27mbps upload speeds and NYC FIRST got it upgraded near the end of the event.
With that said would like to sincerely thank NYC FIRST for spending the large sum it cost to upgrade the line and allow us to stream at a viewable bitrate.

Our apologies for the poor quality the first two days, and the switch from ustream to twitch (since twitch allows you to set a bitrate so we could actually show something before we upgraded) and then the switch back to ustream (after we upgraded the speeds and Twitch decided to ban our channel because it was not gaming related...)
Both the field and the webcast were on the same connection. We hope near the end of the event the quality was much higher and we strive to continue to make the stream better from the beginning next year.


Does anyone know how MAR and NEFIRST stream events without having problems on Twitch because we are fairly upset with them right now.

Again thank you to everyone for your patience as we dealt with the problems and we hope you enjoyed watching Sundays matches.

[Libby K]

Does anyone know how MAR and NEFIRST stream events without having problems on Twitch because we are fairly upset with them right now.


MAR streams on YouTube, and cuts the event music out of the stream.

FRCtop25 and GameSense are on Twitch as well, so it might be worth dropping them a line.

[JABianchi]

Is there recorded match footage from this regional?

Also does anyone have pictures of 395, 743, 1155, 1660, or 2265's robots?


Yes, Here is a picture of 1660's robot :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10926287_1021645211183370_51959902006131407_o.jpg

At least, that's what it will look like next week!:rolleyes:

Here is DragoKnight, the Harlem Knights' 2015 robot before bagging:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/0dd_T3Ffcv7_0EICj71bRwkBcMRUUj0c40i9xzJktZR-x309g6qM7EZ9Ew2bT8mNxdHb-BxOmcySQyE=w1342-h523

and at the Regional:
https://instagram.com/p/0QqHZNFJ5y/?taken-by=takeoff

[ThunderousPrime]

Yes, Here is a picture of 1660's robot :D
At least, that's what it will look like next week!:rolleyes:

Here is DragoKnight, the Harlem Knights' 2015 robot before bagging:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/0dd_T3Ffcv7_0EICj71bRwkBcMRUUj0c40i9xzJktZR-x309g6qM7EZ9Ew2bT8mNxdHb-BxOmcySQyE=w1342-h523

and at the Regional:
https://instagram.com/p/0QqHZNFJ5y/?taken-by=takeoff

Well played, well played. :) Looks great. Can't wait to see you guys at FLR. If you're interested check out our release video (https://youtu.be/f_sYVUyP2Nk) but know that there will be two new features added on before/during FLR. How was 743 doing? It appears they picked you for elims. :)

[mtaman02]

Has anyone seen an announcement from FIRST explaining why the NYNY Match Results qual match data (http://frc-events.usfirst.org/2015/NYNY/qualifications) are incomplete?




The reason why the info wasn't all uploaded was because of the venues internet speed that the NYC Regional committee paid for and the size of the file uploads.

It was basically trying to download an entire DVD Movie over 56K to put this into better perspective. A lot of data over a slow connection...

Checking FIRST's website everything seems to be there but during the event it was hard to get the stuff uploaded timely without it timing out.

[Sperkowsky]

Can confirm Javits charges 2 arms, a leg, and a pinky toe for internet speeds acceptable for a sustainable stream and internet in general, even just for one connection drop at the entire event. We, in collaboration with NYC FIRST, tried our best to find a way to make the webcast work in the beginning but finally succumbed to their .27mbps upload speeds and NYC FIRST got it upgraded near the end of the event.
With that said would like to sincerely thank NYC FIRST for spending the large sum it cost to upgrade the line and allow us to stream at a viewable bitrate.

Our apologies for the poor quality the first two days, and the switch from ustream to twitch (since twitch allows you to set a bitrate so we could actually show something before we upgraded) and then the switch back to ustream (after we upgraded the speeds and Twitch decided to ban our channel because it was not gaming related...)
Both the field and the webcast were on the same connection. We hope near the end of the event the quality was much higher and we strive to continue to make the stream better from the beginning next year.


Does anyone know how MAR and NEFIRST stream events without having problems on Twitch because we are fairly upset with them right now.

Again thank you to everyone for your patience as we dealt with the problems and we hope you enjoyed watching Sundays matches.
I find it slightly ridiculous the javits center doesn't help first out financially. I love the javits center (I'm there all the time) but some things they do like their food costs are just ridiculous.

I have a media contact through the cea for twitch and can try to contact them about allowing first events. I also have a friend who does a weekly tech stream and has a good relationship with first so I'll try to get him to help you guys our for next year.

Congratz guys. You are one of the nicest teams and I can't wait to compete with you at sbpli.

[dag0620]

I find it slightly ridiculous the javits center doesn't help first out financially. I love the javits center (I'm there all the time) but some things they do like their food costs are just ridiculous.


One would think, but ultimately to many of the venues FIRST uses throughout the year, they are just another customer and show coming through who gets charged standard rates. It stinks but it happens. I know FIRST and SRE try their hardest to negotiate these things down, but many venues hold hard ground. It is sadly just part of the game.

[Foster]

MAR streams on YouTube, and cuts the event music out of the stream.

FRCtop25 and GameSense are on Twitch as well, so it might be worth dropping them a line.

The problem isn't the server, it's the "last mile". In this case they needed the JJ Center wireless to get to an internet connection to get to the video server.

And since the Center is very much for a profit place, $10 per kbyte is a good rate for them to charge. So sorry FIRST that you are a non profit, we are and we make good cash from internet usage.

[disclamer == Foster on a rant, skip down]
This is the next part of Network Neutrality, the ability to connect to the internet for a low price. I have a 4G Verizon device, it would stream one event per month, and I would hit my "unlimited cap". Some places *mariot cough cough* block my cell signal so I can't get out except at low data rate volume.

It's not a happy place, people want to be on the interwebtubes and local providers use that as a $$$ method.

The telcos / cable providers have given up some ground, but the last mile won't be given up without a fight. Because that's a lot of people that make TONS of cash on that connection.



Congrats to the teams at NYC. I know that our VEX events to talk to people from far away countries (looking at you Massachusetts) so China and the UK is huge!!


I finally threw out a box of 500 of those last summer. Including copies of Harvard Graphics, WordPerfect, Borland Paradox, Watcom C, and DesqView.

Did you cry? I did when I tossed mine , my life history as an "Uber Geek" in a trash pile. I had all of those, an my ability to run them in 1MB was great. Now 1114 robot picture is twice that size.

[Ether]

Did you cry?

No, but it wasn't easy. I save everything.

Had to make room for the new junk.

Last summer I threw out over 200 books. Nobody reads books anymore.

[RoboTigers1796]

I find it slightly ridiculous the javits center doesn't help first out financially. I love the javits center (I'm there all the time) but some things they do like their food costs are just ridiculous.

I have a media contact through the cea for twitch and can try to contact them about allowing first events. I also have a friend who does a weekly tech stream and has a good relationship with first so I'll try to get him to help you guys our for next year.

Congratz guys. You are one of the nicest teams and I can't wait to compete with you at sbpli.

That would be greatly appreciated, and also thank you for the kind words. We can't wait to head out there next weekend and play again. Hope we get a few matches together!

MAR streams on YouTube, and cuts the event music out of the stream.

FRCtop25 and GameSense are on Twitch as well, so it might be worth dropping them a line.
Hm, I would expect if anything getting in trouble for any background copyright music. But nongaming caught us by surprise considering the FRC related things I've seen on twitch. We are going through the appeal process now.