2015 Arizona East Regional

[z_beeblebrox]

I've heard we'll be having one...

Anyway, the Bit Buckets are excited to compete, after a chance to practice at the Central Valley Regional.

Team List:
60 Bionic Bulldogs Kingman, AZ, USA
498 Cobra Commanders Glendale, AZ, USA
698 Hamilton Microbots Chandler, AZ, USA
842 Falcon Robotics Phoenix, AZ, USA
996 Mecha Knights Casa Grande, AZ, USA
1011 CRUSH Tucson, AZ, USA
1165 Team Paradise Phoenix, AZ, USA
1290 Robowolves Chandler, AZ, USA
1492 Team CAUTION Tempe, AZ, USA
1538 The Holy Cows San Diego, CA, USA
1633 RoboBuffs Tempe, AZ, USA
1700 Gatorbotics Palo Alto, CA, USA
1828 BoxerBots Vail, AZ, USA
2375 Dragon Robotics Phoenix, AZ, USA
2403 Plasma Robotics Mesa, AZ, USA
2449 Out of Orbit Robotics Tempe, AZ, USA
2478 Westwood Robotics Mesa, AZ, USA
2486 CocoNuts Flagstaff, AZ, USA
2647 Cyborg Mustangs Phoenix, AZ, USA
2662 Robo Krew Tolleson, AZ, USA
2840 Blue Tide Paradise Valley, AZ, USA
3019 Firebirds Scottsdale, AZ, USA
3048 Critical Mass Mesa, AZ, USA
3133 Coronado Robotics Scottsdale, AZ, USA
3158 TECBOT Toluca, MEX, Mexico
3187 Titans Phoenix, AZ, USA
3785 Gila Monsters Yuma, AZ, USA
3853 Pridetronics Phoenix, AZ, USA
3944 All Knights Tempe, AZ, USA
4111 Peace Love Robots Mesa, AZ, USA
4126 Decepta-Kings Yuma, AZ, USA
4146 Sabercats Scottsdale, AZ, USA
4160 The Cannons San Diego, CA, USA
4183 Bit Buckets Tucson, AZ, USA
4496 Sonoran Storm Robotics Gilbert, AZ, USA
4565 Coyotes Mesa, AZ, USA
4841 Optimal Robotics Tucson, AZ, USA
5207 Bearcepticons Coolidge, AZ, USA
5465 Binary Bots Chandler, AZ, USA
5475 Thunder Phoenix, AZ, USA
5539

[RoboAlum]

Honestly kinda excited for this event some good teams here and now Mexico is back and then Holy Cows are gonna be there seating is gonna be hard to find.

[MattRain]

Team Caution is excited as well. Now lets finish the robot first....

[Gatorbotics]

Team 1700 is very excited to compete in Arizona Regional this year - it's our first time at this event and we are all looking forward to meeting everyone.

We're wondering if any Arizona team would be willing to help us with shipping? Usually FIRST gives us a drayage location to ship to but this year, they are telling us they can't guarantee we can use it at this time. So they suggested we ask a local Arizona team if they would be able to receive our crate and help us transport it to the competition site.

Thanks so much! Good luck to everyone for the last few days of the build season!

Angi
Advisor to Team 1700

[DeeTaffy2486]

Team 1700 is very excited to compete in Arizona Regional this year - it's our first time at this event and we are all looking forward to meeting everyone.

We're wondering if any Arizona team would be willing to help us with shipping? Usually FIRST gives us a drayage location to ship to but this year, they are telling us they can't guarantee we can use it at this time. So they suggested we ask a local Arizona team if they would be able to receive our crate and help us transport it to the competition site.

Thanks so much! Good luck to everyone for the last few days of the build season!

Angi
Advisor to Team 1700

Hi Team 1700,

2486 would happily like to provide a place to ship your robot for the 2015 AZ East regional. We live in Flagstaff, Arizona, roughly 2 hours north of the venue. However we'd be happy to drive your robot down to the venue early Thursday morning. We can be reached at fusd1robotics@gmail.com . Can't wait to see you there!

David

[Fauge7]

don't give them another reason to win chairmans :p The firebirds are excited to show off the robot we have this year! Its a promising year!

[AZDevilRobot]

Hey everyone,

We are really excited for this week and can't wait to compete. I just have one question. According to the agenda for the AZ East Regional it states that there is a load in period Wednesday night from 6-8pm. We have never brought our robot during this time (we usually do it Thursday since Wednesday is a school night) so my question is: During this time period are we allowed to bring just are robot, or all our supplies? I'm trying to determine how big a vehicle we need to transport everything. Thanks for your help.

[MrForbes]

Normal procedure (at most regionals, including AZ) is to let you bring your bagged robot, and all the equipment/supplies/COTS parts/withheld (fabricated) parts in to the venue, and leave them in your pit. But you can't set anything up at all, you can just leave it there.

Be sure to bring the robot lockup form (put it in an envelope, taped to the bag, to help you remember it!) so the Robot Inspectors can check and sign it, so you will be able to get to work on your robot right away Thursday when the pits open to teams at 8:30

[Uniwersel]

Are there any plans of a webcast? I'm hoping to make it Saturday, but won't be there Friday.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Are there any plans of a webcast? I'm hoping to make it Saturday, but won't be there Friday.

I'm not sure about the webcast but 842 plans on recording the field with a high quality camera and uploading it here like last year: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn8-R2ZfQtC0w1ODrzPkH6A/videos

Depending on connection speed, the plan is to upload right after every match but no promises.

[RoboAlum]

So how many teams are presenting chairmans at this event i know its usually a low number. I we are, crush, and plasma are but thats all i really know are.

[Uniwersel]

I'm not sure about the webcast but 842 plans on recording the field with a high quality camera and uploading it here like last year: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn8-R2ZfQtC0w1ODrzPkH6A/videos

Depending on connection speed, the plan is to upload right after every match but no promises.
Awesome, from what I remember last year those uploads were very helpful with scouting.
So how many teams are presenting chairmans at this event i know its usually a low number. I we are, crush, and plasma are but thats all i really know are.

The last I heard, 1828 was intending on presenting this year.

[Nathan Rossi]

So how many teams are presenting chairmans at this event i know its usually a low number. I we are, crush, and plasma are but thats all i really know are.

Team 1492 will be presenting.

[sergioCorral842]

Although the rain was tough, we are all done loading in and are ready for the competition tomorrow! Good luck teams and see you all tomorrow!

[plasma_54]

Are there any plans of a webcast? I'm hoping to make it Saturday, but won't be there Friday.
If there is a live stream, it will be up Friday Morning.
We're still working out some internet connectivity issues.
We'll post the link here if/when it is up.

[hunterteam3476]

Does anyone know if they are going to show a webcam for practice matches?

[Fauge7]

there was maybe only 3/6 teams for the practice matches, 3019 intends on doing chairman's as well.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Due to some technical difficulties, videos will not be uploaded real time. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

[plasma_54]

Ok we got it figured out. Check out the live stream here:
http://www.plasmarobotics.org/live/

[The Lucas]

Odd ruling watching the webcast of Q51:
842 ended the match touching a previously scored (>3 secs ago) Coop stack in an attempt to score more landfill totes.
Announcer went nuts about they just ruined 40 pts (not surprising that a game announcer wouldn't know the specifics of Coop scoring)
Surprisingly, they posted the score without any Coop points (not even a set)
After a long delay (seemingly teams were discussing with refs), the announcer said the the refs had decided to count the stack. However, instead of a rules clarification he said it was in the spirit of GP that they counted it.
After another match, he tried to clarify that ruling by implying that they had moved 842 away after the buzzer and since the stack stood for 3 sec that is why it counted (not because coop points are awarded instantly and can't be descored).

Is there still confusion among the refs at Arizona over the nuances of Coop points scoring or is the announcer just not conveying their rulings well?

If it is just announcer confusion, it might be good for the audience of varied rules familiarity to explain how the coop stack points score permanently (3 secs after robots break contact, many refs give a hand count). Perhaps an extreme example, where 842 decided to disassemble the scored Coop stack and place the yellow totes upside-down on top of step containers and still scores 40 pts, would drive home the point.

[cglrcng]

There wasn't enough to really tell on the live stream, sounded like the contact wasn't actually broken when buzzer went off. But, who knows...Only the refs. know for sure, and they met and awarded the coop. score. The points are awarded immed. after the stack is completed, and you break contact w/ the completed stack, and then 3 seconds have elapsed.

Nobody should expect the Announcer to parse the rules of the game like we do. That's what those great Ref's are for. They (Voice game announcers), are hired (volunteer for the endless play-by-play color commentary), for their ceasless voices and high volume of air and low caloric intake! Lol, and he does a good dang job of it too.

Just too bad all that coop. hard work is for naught when it comes to The Actual Playoffs. But it sure can hype those Q Points averages a whole bunch. Now I really see why the picks are all over the board after the top 12 are used up. Took 4 weeks to really see all there is to see.
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Oh, a previously scored coop.. They were absolutely right then...Missed that in your post. And in the stream.

[cglrcng]

Thank You to Plasma Robotics for the Live Stream also! (Only wish is that it was full field all the time is all...But, no complaints, thoroughly enjoy having it live). Thanx again!

[plasma_54]

Thank You to Plasma Robotics for the Live Stream also! (Only wish is that it was full field all the time is all...But, no complaints, thoroughly enjoy having it live). Thanx again!
You're welcome! And we will have the full field live stream online all day tomorrow. We started the majority of setup this morning, and didn't have time before the the first match to get everything for the full field camera ready.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Apologize to everyone again about the video recording. Unfortunately, we won't be able to upload videos until Sunday after the regional but they will be the good quality like last year.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Odd ruling watching the webcast of Q51:
842 ended the match touching a previously scored (>3 secs ago) Coop stack in an attempt to score more landfill totes.
Announcer went nuts about they just ruined 40 pts (not surprising that a game announcer wouldn't know the specifics of Coop scoring)
Surprisingly, they posted the score without any Coop points (not even a set)
After a long delay (seemingly teams were discussing with refs), the announcer said the the refs had decided to count the stack. However, instead of a rules clarification he said it was in the spirit of GP that they counted it.
After another match, he tried to clarify that ruling by implying that they had moved 842 away after the buzzer and since the stack stood for 3 sec that is why it counted (not because coop points are awarded instantly and can't be descored).

Is there still confusion among the refs at Arizona over the nuances of Coop points scoring or is the announcer just not conveying their rulings well?

If it is just announcer confusion, it might be good for the audience of varied rules familiarity to explain how the coop stack points score permanently (3 secs after robots break contact, many refs give a hand count). Perhaps an extreme example, where 842 decided to disassemble the scored Coop stack and place the yellow totes upside-down on top of step containers and still scores 40 pts, would drive home the point.

It was a confusing moment. I think since coopertition was never descored, everyone thought it could be descored. We of 842 didn't intend to try and descore the co op. Our driver is pretty new with maybe only a week of training so rookie mistakes happened every now and again. We apologize to anyone who thought we might have done it on purpose and to all teams it could have negatively affected. But yes everyone thought for some reason that co-op could be descored since it was the first time it happened at the event. The refs figured it out and corrected their initial mistake. Don Knight, our beloved game announcer tried to explain it the best he could but if their is any confusion, this is the straight answer here.

[MattRain]

Odd ruling watching the webcast of Q51:
842 ended the match touching a previously scored (>3 secs ago) Coop stack in an attempt to score more landfill totes.
Announcer went nuts about they just ruined 40 pts (not surprising that a game announcer wouldn't know the specifics of Coop scoring)
Surprisingly, they posted the score without any Coop points (not even a set)
After a long delay (seemingly teams were discussing with refs), the announcer said the the refs had decided to count the stack. However, instead of a rules clarification he said it was in the spirit of GP that they counted it.
After another match, he tried to clarify that ruling by implying that they had moved 842 away after the buzzer and since the stack stood for 3 sec that is why it counted (not because coop points are awarded instantly and can't be descored).

Is there still confusion among the refs at Arizona over the nuances of Coop points scoring or is the announcer just not conveying their rulings well?

If it is just announcer confusion, it might be good for the audience of varied rules familiarity to explain how the coop stack points score permanently (3 secs after robots break contact, many refs give a hand count). Perhaps an extreme example, where 842 decided to disassemble the scored Coop stack and place the yellow totes upside-down on top of step containers and still scores 40 pts, would drive home the point.

One of my students, from 1492 went and talked to the head ref, and had it reveresed. In the end, the points were given to us after we specifically pointed out that after 3 seconds, the co-op stack is scored, even if it falls over after those three seconds. In the end, the co-op points were given.

[cglrcng]

No apologies necessary...If it was scored, it was scored...(I was watching but texting the site, and watching, scouting too, so stat sheets were up, and there were 2 matches well before you where 6 points were re-added to the stats sheet for 2 matches, after the live score was completed on the stream (so I was reporting that too in the text), they evidentally reversed 2 penalties, 1 for each match -36 & 37) and it wasn't on camera at the moment of statements or completion of that coop. stack anyway (we only had the Announcer info)....The Ref's saw it and corrected it, that's all that counts. Great Job!

You get it there, it scores, you can knock it down later...onto your side though. :D

[plasma_54]

Live Streams are up.

HD Full Field (http://www.plasmarobotics.org/live/camera2.html)

Conventional Video Feed with Scores (http://www.plasmarobotics.org/live/index.html)

[cglrcng]

Can't find the Alliance Pick thread right now so will park this here temporarily. (Will update and move to proper thread later as the event completes). Good luck to all the teams. (Sry, I'm very partial to the number 1 seeded Alliance Go Out Stack Em' big 1538/60/4496!)

AZ East Regional

1 1538 60 4496 **Advanced to Finals
2 4183 3944 4146 **Advanced to Finals
3 1492 2478 5539
4 498 2486 1828
5 3158 842 3019
6 1165 3021 2647
7 1290 3853 3133
8 1700 4160 3785

*Heard no declines (If you know of any please add them below).

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Good luck to all the teams competing. (Sry, I'm very partial to the number 1 seeded Alliance "Go and Out Stack Em' big 1538/60/4496!")


Added: (Highest Q Match Scores*)Red Blue R / B *Beyond 100 points scored an Alliance
AZ East Regional 2015
79 Sat 3/21 - 11:34 AM 1492 1011 5207 3048 1165 60 - 60~155
69 Sat 3/21 - 10:24 AM 3944 5475 1492 5539 842 2375 - 130~54
13 Fri 3/20 - 10:34 AM 1011 2662 1165 3158 1538 3853 - 34~122
47 Fri 3/20 - 3:32 PM 2478 3158 1828 1538 2375 2486 - 83~119
74 Sat 3/21 -10:59 AM 3019 4183 3853 3187 698 2647 - 116~ 54
4 Fri 3/20 - 9:21 AM 1492 3133 1538 1700 2403 2486 - 114~88
78 Sat 3/21 -11:27 AM 698 498 4183 1633 1290 1538 - 99~110
67 Sat 3/21 -10:10 AM 1290 60 1700 4160 3021 3019 - 104~97

*Proven fact...Reaction times slow a bit after eating. 9:00 AM ~11:59 AM hours seem/are the best for most high school students. Most attentative, sleep somewhat rubbed out of some of their eyes, not yet consumed all that food and those sugary beverages from the lunch break yet affecting their still growing bodies. (Lunch Break?...Who got a stinkin' lunch break? That bot needed a fixin' and we were busy strategizing the next few matches!) Heard many times over at every FIRST competition.

[cglrcng]

Playoff Information - Arizona East Regional
Match Start Time Red 1 Red 2 Red 3 Blue 1 Blue 2 Blue 3 Red Final Blue Final
1 Sat 3/21 - 2:30 PM 2486 498 1828 842 3158 3019 68~57
2 Sat 3/21 - 2:37 PM 2478 1492 5539 3021 1165 2647 64~89
3 Sat 3/21 - 2:44 PM 3944 4183 4146 3853 1290 3133 133~34
4 Sat 3/21 - 2:51 PM 60 1538 4496 4160 1700 3785 119~36
5 Sat 3/21 - 2:58 PM 2486 498 1828 3021 1165 2647 71~59
6 Sat 3/21 - 3:05 PM 2478 1492 5539 842 3158 3019 63~80
7 Sat 3/21 - 3:12 PM 3944 4183 4146 4160 1700 3785 140~46
8 Sat 3/21 - 3:19 PM 60 1538 4496 3853 1290 3133 115~65
Semifinals (Alliance QF Points Avg. 1 vs 4, 2 vs 6) 3 matches each, Best 2 Alliances combined points avg. advances Finals.

Alliance Results
Alliance Captain Round 1 Round 2 Backup QF Rank QF Average SF Rank SF Average Finals Wins
1 1538 60 4496 2 117.00 2 115.33 **Advanced to Finals (****Best 2 of three matches wins Regional)
2 4183 3944 4146 1 136.50 1 132.33 **Advanced to Finals

3 1492 2478 5539 6 63.50
4 498 2486 1828 4 69.50 3 71.00
5 3158 842 3019 5 68.50
6 1165 3021 2647 3 74.00 4 65.00
7 1290 3853 3133 7 49.50
8 1700 4160 3785 8 41.00

9 Sat 3/21 - 3:26 PM 60 1538 4496 2486 498 1828 138~99
10 Sat 3/21 - 3:33 PM 3944 4183 4146 3021 1165 2647 116~63
11 Sat 3/21 - 3:40 PM 60 1538 4496 3021 1165 2647 151~70
12 Sat 3/21 - 3:47 PM 3944 4183 4146 2486 498 1828 128~74
13 Sat 3/21 - 3:54 PM 3021 1165 2647 2486 498 1828 62~40
14 Sat 3/21 - 4:01 PM 3944 4183 4146 60 1538 4496 153~57


Finals: Seed Match 1 Match 2 Match 3 (If Necessary)

1 1538 60 4496 2 117.00 2 115.33 146 (Timeout called after match 1).
2 4183 3944 4146 1 136.50 1 132.33 168 New Event HS (Corrected...sry)

After Finals Match 2!

Finals: Seed Match 1 Match 2 Match 3 (If Necessary)

1 1538 60 4496 2 117.00 2 115.33 146 117 **Finalists Congrats. Teams 1538 / 60/ 4496
2 4183 3944 4146 1 136.50 1 132.33 168 132 **Champions (New Event HS-Final Match 1)

Congrat's to Teams 4183 / 3944 / 4146 - AZ East PHX Regional Champions 2015

(Final 1 Match Scores were quickly corrected...Very sry.!)

***(#1 Qualifier "1538 The Holy Cows" was awarded a Personal Segway by The Regional Host, and Director of AZ FIRST! Congrat's to Team 1538!) What a Gracious Host we have AZ.

I'm done.

[cglrcng]

Alliance Results
Alliance Captain Round 1 Round 2 Backup QF Rank QF Average SF Rank SF Average Finals Wins
1 1538 60 4496 2 119.00
2 4183 3944 4146 1 133.00
3 1492 2478 5539 5 64.00
4 498 2486 1828 4 69.50
5 3158 842 3019 6 57.00
6 1165 3021 2647 3 74.00
7 1290 3853 3133 8 34.00
8 1700 4160 3785 7 36.00
*After QF 1
Alliance Results
Alliance Captain Round 1 Round 2 Backup QF Rank QF Average SF Rank SF Average Finals Wins
1 1538 60 4496 2 117.00 **
2 4183 3944 4146 1 136.50 **
3 1492 2478 5539 6 63.50
4 498 2486 1828 4 69.50 ** **(Moves on to SF Matches)
5 3158 842 3019 5 68.50
6 1165 3021 2647 3 74.00 **
7 1290 3853 3133 7 49.50
8 1700 4160 3785 8 41.00
*After QF 2

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Added: Sry I didn't update the posts in order, and it may not make much sense at all...I got lost, but looking at previous page, all the scores were recorded w/ 1 fairly quickly fixed mistake. (A reversal from live feed video to the page caused it). For actual results see FIRST Results page...It makes more sense, though w/ fewer details. They need to reverse the schedule results pages, or the camera side of field, or the live scoring on the feed...(On the feed, scoring is Red Left...But there is Blue Carpet behind the Red...and it is the Left side of the field....Left is Red, Right is Blue, no, that's not right...They do not ever match. Red/Blue...Blue/Red...Red/Blue. (Do that to a type A! Argh....)

Try doing this from home.

[Sputinc]

Moral of the finals:

6>4.

Congratulations, 4183, 3944, and 4146!

[mrnoble]

Moral of the finals:

6>4.

Congratulations, 4183, 3944, and 4146!

Please elaborate. I am very interested in 4183, but wasn't able to see many of their matches and missed the finals entirely. What do you mean?

[AdamHeard]

Any video of elims?

[MrForbes]

Stacks of six with a can are better than stacks of four with a can. Might be a short while before video is posted. The game is exciting with evenly matched alliances.

Oh..... Congrats to Crush 1011 for the long deserved chairman's!!

[Nathan Rossi]

Those were the most entertaining finals I have ever witnessed in person. Congrats to 4183, 4146, and 3944, on a well deserved win!

As for us, we will see everyone at Arizona West. We'll be pushing that 30lb. weight allowance...

[kuraikou]

Please elaborate. I am very interested in 4183, but wasn't able to see many of their matches and missed the finals entirely. What do you mean?

What happened was we focused on more stacks of fewer totes with cans and they had higher stacks but less of them

[cglrcng]

Another CG Book, so sorry... (For the truncated version, just read between the lines, look at paragraphs 5~8). And do your own search).

Compiling results and doing some math / team comparisons...I just noticed something quite unique...That must affect comparisons of Regionals / Teams /Results / And Q Point Averages / OPR's / etc. across the board this year, and it can be either good or bad...Depending on your team's specific situation.

Under the new format this year (everything up until the Final 3 matches is all Points Avg. Based, then best 2/3). Many Regionals conducted so far have had (between 8 and 12 Q Matches per team
after comparing ranking sheets), so Q Point Avg's. are better or worse for each team depending of course, on how they personally performed individually, and amongst their own competition field only.

We had 12 Q Matches, so comparing the field from this Regional to another (this year), cannot actually reliably be done w/ any real certainty, if paying strict attention to the Q Avg. Scores (we completed 20% more Q Matches than some others having 10, much higher for those having only 8 -33% higher).

There are Regionals w/ even less. Ck. Dallas (Week 1), rankings for comparison. (Though they had a weather related issue on Friday as I remember, so did they just truncate & drop the last set of Q Matches Saturday morning? It appears so looking at the Q Schedule results, but they only completed 10 each).
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Then ck. Virgina (Week 4 -8 Q Matches), and AZ E. Phx (Week 4 -12Q). 1/3rd or 33% more Q matches? (That's 33% more chances to shine / or, to screw up!) So, it all does not necessarily come out in the wash. (The Playoff Point Avg's. can be compared w/ fair certainty). There are fewer playoff matches though 7~8 max. (2+3+2~3) vs. 9 possible.

Q Point Avg. disparity is very evident between Regional/District competitions, and not all is due to the actual robots/teams building/operating them (it's a basic math issue also). It was before, now I know exactly why.

Go look; http://frc-events.usfirst.org/ Click on a few regionals, and click Rankings, look @ the rt column for total Q Matches played.

Anyone know if later published OPR results actually compensates in any way for that wide disparity? (If that is possible....How exactly is it done?)
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I realize comparisons across the board, are somewhat foolish in a way (as "competitions are what they are," just a snapshot in time & place & circumstances...w/ real life rewarded accomplishments or bloody toe-stubs attached,...(Nobody possibly fails if they actually play!). But, we all do them (Comparisons). Especially in FIRST!

Personally it helped our team a lil' bit, as we scored our highest Q Match score in Q79 our 12th (Q High of 155), and 76 in our 11th (1 Way up above & 1 Below our final avg.). There is enough disparity between Avg. Q Scores, and actual Playoff Scores, as is when you can somewhat attempt to design/pick your own alliance (within reason, LOL).

Maybe it has always been like this, and I just never noticed it? (But, the change from Win/Loss/Tie format, to Q Avg's. format for seeding, certainly changes things when comparing 1 competitors regional/district rankings results, to anothers, FRC wide).

[cglrcng]

What happened was we focused on more stacks of fewer totes with cans and they had higher stacks but less of them

You did an amazing job...Congrats! (All involved did). Enjoy the spoils of your Victory. (Time management / smooth driving / game strategy / and robot design, is everything in this game). Almost more elements than actual game pcs....LOL! (Add a slight dash of luck too as usual, with lots of angle of the dangle, and raised scoring platforms meet round wheels, and slightly offline robots). Too many other possibilities to even list.

It was exciting though to watch you 6 masters work today! (The gentleman is right..."It is WORK," EH?)
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The points average improvement (from Q to Playoffs), is amazingly outrageous. That was my comparison math project, attempting to break it down a bit further...Then I realized the above post comparing Region to Region results.

I already knew there were more 1, 2, & 5 Seeded Alliances carrying home Winner Banners this year weeks 1-3 (1 & 2 are usual...5's not so much), and a bunch of high teen Q'd teams actually sitting out of the playoffs).

[plasma_54]

Any video of elims?

Finals 1: http://youtu.be/Qo45BHzc1Qc

Finals 2: http://youtu.be/l6Xhqy-TNwk

[Fauge7]

It was amazing working with that alliance in one of our seeding matches! az was a blast! quality of the robots hasn't been too good this year but we did have a deadly combination of teams that showed in the finals!

[nixiebunny]

I was totally surprised by our winning the event. The drive team just got better and better, so much so that I had to make a graph of our scores throughout the event:
http://www.bitbuckets.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/ArizonaScores.jpg

[azcalg]

That was a great regional! Definitely a very exciting and evenly matched finals. 1212 is competing in the West Regional so we look forward to seeing some of you there as well.

On another note, if anyone is in the area, we're looking for teams that might be able to loan us some totes and rc's or other field elements to practice with in the next couple weeks. So if you're done competing we would appreciate the help and we could pick them up and return them after a couple weeks.

Also, for those of you also competing at the Arizona West or even other regionals, we'd be happy to host a practice session with you at Seton Catholic High School. We have a good portion of the field setup, we're just missing some totes and rc's and one of the scoring platforms, which we might just make. So if you don't have adequate space or just want to practice with another team, email me at cgillette15@setoncatholic.org or pm me and we can set something up. We're meeting most days after school in the next couple weeks from around 3-6 and all day during the weekends, which would probably be better.

[RoboAlum]

Those were the most entertaining finals I have ever witnessed in person. Congrats to 4183, 4146, and 3944, on a well deserved win!

As for us, we will see everyone at Arizona West. We'll be pushing that 30lb. weight allowance...

I thought it was a 20lbs allowance and 30 was just cause of last years snow storms

[Nathan Rossi]

I thought it was a 20lbs allowance and 30 was just cause of last years snow storms

WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE – a static set of FABRICATED ITEMS that shall not exceed 30 lbs., brought to an event (or Robot Access Period) in addition to the bagged items, to be used to repair and/or upgrade their ROBOT

If my memory serves me correctly, the witholding allowance was 45lbs in 2014 due to the snow storms.

[RoboAlum]

Hmmmm 30lbs should be alot of nice things to bring to west.....................

[old_luther]

As the driver for team 4183, I would like to recognize and thank a large list of people:

First out alliance partners, team 3944 was a perfect complement to our robot stacking stacks of 6 totes with a bin and noodle in them. Team 4146 was the best 2nd pick I could have hoped for, they did exactly what they said they would, and put down stacks of 4 totes making quick capping of stacks very easy.

I feel a shout out to all of our scouts and data analysis people for making that perfect alliance happen is necessary.

I would like to also thank everyone at Arizona for making this the best regional I have attended, cheering for everyone, having nice teams, and good sportsmanship from every team I encountered (it was a little limited saying as I spent all my time driving or having fun with my team).

And I would like to give a special thanks to my uncle Jim Forbes (MrForbes on CD) for suggesting that we spend all our our time practicing getting bins and capping stacks because in the end, that was the only way we could beat an amazing alliance like 1538, 60, and 4496.

[plasma_54]

The archived live stream can be downloaded here (http://goo.gl/aHjQTO).
Camera 1 is the conventional video feed with the score overaly.
Camera 2 is the HD full field camera (started streaming from Friday afternoon on).
Each day is split up into 2 or more chunks just depending on when the software program had to be restarted.
The link will remain active for a few months.
Let me know if you run into any problems downloading the footage.

[Peyton Yeung]

Will someone be uploading this to the Blue Alliance?

[Sputinc]

What happened was we focused on more stacks of fewer totes with cans and they had higher stacks but less of them

My message had meant the exact opposite, actually, though with the "6>4" bit, I was referring to 3944's stacking of 6 totes. At the end of the second and final match, if I recall correctly, there were approximately equal amounts of stacks on each side, but the two 6-tote stacks from 3944 resulted in a win over the other alliance's usage of only 4-tote stacks.

As for 4183, there was some very solid 4-tote stacking that was absolutely important to the victory.

[tcjinaz]

For 1212:

Goodness , you people are closer to the East Regional site than we are. Is there some kind of strategy related to the AZ State Championships going on?

Background: top 30 robots from the AZ Regionals go to the State Championship. The kicker is, you're scored on only your first Regional effort. I don't know the formula.

TJ
(hoping we did good enough last weekend :)

[Fauge7]

For 1212:

Goodness , you people are closer to the East Regional site than we are. Is there some kind of strategy related to the AZ State Championships going on?

Background: top 30 robots from the AZ Regionals go to the State Championship. The kicker is, you're scored on only your first Regional effort. I don't know the formula.

TJ
(hoping we did good enough last weekend :)

Your scored on the first regional you compete in. Meaning your average points on that regional and coop with that regional. So trying your best would help the most.

[Donut]

While watching the Vegas webcast this morning I took some time to compile a spreadsheet to estimate the rankings for the Arizona State Championship. These are not the official rankings but are a close estimate based on the published criteria, once you get to the 3rd tiebreaker and beyond it won't match up since I didn't build the sheet to handle that data. Since the teams submitting for Chairman's award are not published I have estimated based on teams posting about it in this thread. Auto-bids for winning Chairman's are highlighted in green. Let me know if you see any mistakes as all the data is copy paste or manual entry.

There are still 14 teams left competing for the first time this season (two in Vegas this weekend, 12 in AZ West next weekend).

With the current rankings the cutoff to qualify is 12 points, which means you automatically qualified if your team submitted for Chairman's at any event. That will change in the next two weeks but with the amount of teams competing for a second time at West who seeded well at earlier events I expect them to occupy most of the top spots there, resulting in a final cutoff point that will likely be at or below 20 points.

I really hope 4183 submitted for Chairman's somewhere this season, after doing so well at AZ East I would hate to see them miss the State Championship because of a rough first event. The sooner Arizona goes to Districts the better, I would really like to see teams with massive improvements from the first to second event still qualify for the State/District Championship by being able to count both events.

[z_beeblebrox]

I really hope 4183 submitted for Chairman's somewhere this season, after doing so well at AZ East I would hate to see them miss the State Championship because of a rough first event. The sooner Arizona goes to Districts the better, I would really like to see teams with massive improvements from the first to second event still qualify for the State/District Championship by being able to count both events.

We submitted for Chairman's at both our events but did not win. Does that mean we qualify? [Edit: never mind. I read your post.]

I'm also looking forward to districts, although I'll probably graduate by the time they come to Arizona.

[azcalg]

For 1212:

Goodness , you people are closer to the East Regional site than we are. Is there some kind of strategy related to the AZ State Championships going on

Nope. We actually just didn't sign up in time before East filled up. I don't think we even talked about going to the state championship until a couple days ago. It's wound up going in our favor though, we have a very ambitious robot for this year and the extra time has helped work out some kinks in the design.

[tcjinaz]

For those who have not seen the Arizona State Championship rules:

http://aiaonline.org/activities/robotics

[tcjinaz]

Nope. We actually just didn't sign up in time before East filled up. I don't think we even talked about going to the state championship until a couple days ago. It's wound up going in our favor though, we have a very ambitious robot for this year and the extra time has helped work out some kinks in the design.

Good Luck!

With more teams playing their second regional, the scores till be higher.