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philso
04-03-2015, 12:06
Would it be legal to use one of these on our robot to handle the totes? The manipulator would have to be modified slightly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7lKo9ERX2s


Maybe we could use one of these to manipulate the noodles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt_6cQCBjC8

Christopher149
04-03-2015, 12:14
So long as you can buy it from a vendor, is a component <$400, is safe, contains no illegal motors... sure, why not?

MrJohnston
04-03-2015, 12:18
You'd likely have to cheese-hole the heck out of it....

FrankJ
04-03-2015, 12:40
It would have to stay under the 78" height limit. From the sound of it, you will need a bigger compressor.

philso
04-03-2015, 22:43
I saw these at the ABB APW trade show here in Houston. They were showing off their various products. My colleagues and I were there to attend some of the (excellent) classes and to spy on their products that we compete with.

The industrial robot salesmen I spoke with was amused that our game was so similar to their demo and said that their division works with FIRST quite a bit and love seeing what the kids come up with.

http://new.abb.com/apw

Chad987
04-03-2015, 22:46
I'd suggest taking a look at 3310. Their robot is awesome and ridiculously fluid.

asid61
05-03-2015, 00:03
I'd suggest taking a look at 3310. Their robot is awesome and ridiculously fluid.

+1. 3310 essentially just used an arm like that one to stack totes.
If it's <120lbs and it's a donation, plus i uses approved motors and such, I guess nothing really stops you? Not 100% sure those are likely to begin with.

Mulcahy
05-03-2015, 00:41
I'd suggest taking a look at 3310. Their robot is awesome and ridiculously fluid.

3310 - Truly a work of art.....

tomead
05-03-2015, 13:15
Would it be legal to use one of these on our robot to handle the totes? The manipulator would have to be modified slightly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7lKo9ERX2s



You shall see our robot at the Bayou competition, our design was based on that of a palletizing robot. Picture the robot in your video on wheels and you will pretty much have our robot. If you have seen the FRC Rhapsody video, the control system of this robot proves that the math has finally found its place.

philso
05-03-2015, 23:15
Tomead

I was able to watch some of the Dallas Live Stream last week. It was very cool to see your robot at work. It looked like you got a lot of the advantages of the "conveyor belt bots with no wheels" but with mobility. I am surprised you are the only team I have seen so far using this strategy. That is why I put up these videos from the trade show I have been attending this week.

I am looking forward to having a closer look at your robot in two weeks.

BBray_T1296
06-03-2015, 14:07
I am surprised you are the only team I have seen so far using this strategy.

The fluid motion profiling of a 4 DOF arm is not a simple one to program. I am not so surprised for this reason.

It is almost as if 3310 has a mentor with particular knowledge of these systems :D