Australia is coming! 4613 robot release

[jeser#1772]

Team 4613 proudly presents our robot for the 2015 game, MACHINA!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58SO-kO7Jr8

We will be attending the australian regional
Hope you enjoy!

[MARS_James]

Wow truly impressive..... I am at a loss for words

[pmangels17]

I love that auton, and your can placement thing is super cool

[Harman341]

Well, looks like Australia is the new Canada

[Mr. Lim]

Wow. Just. Wow.

[VPpanther]

that Auton is jaw dropping amazing

[The other Gabe]

*scared*

[bkahl]

I like this. A lot.

[philso]

Your strategy and design look very well thought out and very well executed. Kudos! See you at Champs.

Does your lift work autonomously or is it still commanded by the driver?

Wait! You are a rookie team???!!!

[mrnoble]

That is nuts. You guys absolutely rock.

[cbale2000]

Could you post a close up shot of that recycle bin flipper on the top of the robot? I'm very curious to see how it works.

[waialua359]

We get to see this in 4 days! 😉👍

[jeser#1772]

Your strategy and design look very well thought out and very well executed. Kudos! See you at Champs.

Does your lift work autonomously or is it still commanded by the driver?

Wait! You are a rookie team???!!!

yes it lift autonomously! we use 6 sensors for this operation

yes we are rookies!

[CTbiker105]

The phrase "deus ex machina" seems to apply to your autonomous, in the sense that the 3 totes are released just as the 15 seconds end, making it a "seemingly unsolvable problem [which] is suddenly and abruptly resolved."

Or maybe I'm reading into your name choice too much.

Either way, I like this robot a lot.

[jeser#1772]

The phrase "deus ex machina" seems to apply to your autonomous, in the sense that the 3 totes are released just as the 15 seconds end, making it a "seemingly unsolvable problem [which] is suddenly and abruptly resolved."

Or maybe I'm reading into your name choice too much.

Either way, I like this robot a lot.

our official robot name is "Deus ex Machina" but in some cultures is not good to use "Deus'' (is considered blasphemy), so for the video we used only Machina

thanks!

[dominik.daners]

Oh god we are going to either get smashed or carried this year (again). Time to start writing our autonomous to that level. (I mean how hard could it be? ::ouch::)

See you on Thursday :)

[T3_1565]

I love this bot.

Swiss army bot for sure. I definitely wanted to see a bot that has this many effectors to deal with everything.

I Love it. I hope its easy to maintain :)

[Aidan H.]

I notice that in your autonomous routine you start with the first yellow tote lifted in the air (above where it normally rests and in it's set location) in your robot's "tote pan". I looked through the game manual and Q&A and was not able to find any explicit rules about the auto game pieces (yellow totes and containers) being supported by a robot, only that robots could not be supported by the game pieces (through robots are able to contact the game pieces).
Because it seems as though your 3 tote-3 bin auto requires this tote to be possessed by the robot and off the ground, are you confident that it is allowed by the rules?
I may just be missing a rule or Q&A, but it seems to be a grey area in the rules for auto placement.

By the way, incredible robot! I love how versatile and consistent it is.

[EricH]

I may just be missing a rule or Q&A, but it seems to be a grey area in the rules for auto placement.

It's not a grey area at all. The match doesn't start unless all the totes and containers are in their designated starting positions, per Match Logistics (Section 3.1.4).

Also, G13 prohibits preloading totes into the robot. The described situation is most definitely preloading, and thus the match won't start until the situation is corrected.

[jeser#1772]

I notice that in your autonomous routine you start with the first yellow tote lifted in the air (above where it normally rests and in it's set location) in your robot's "tote pan". I looked through the game manual and Q&A and was not able to find any explicit rules about the auto game pieces (yellow totes and containers) being supported by a robot, only that robots could not be supported by the game pieces (through robots are able to contact the game pieces).
Because it seems as though your 3 tote-3 bin auto requires this tote to be possessed by the robot and off the ground, are you confident that it is allowed by the rules?
I may just be missing a rule or Q&A, but it seems to be a grey area in the rules for auto placement.

well spotted!
this is our second robot, the front "flaps" can open (hinged sideways) and we grab from the floor in the competition robot , and this system is 100%reliable grabbing from the floor

[jeser#1772]

I notice that in your autonomous routine you start with the first yellow tote lifted in the air (above where it normally rests and in it's set location) in your robot's "tote pan".


Also, G13 prohibits preloading totes into the robot. The described situation is most definitely preloading, and thus the match won't start until the situation is corrected.

look at the second 23 (you'll see the hinges in the front flaps) :)

[EricH]

look at the second 23 (you'll see the hinges in the front flaps) :)

Actually, I don't see them at that point, or at any other point in the video--unless you mean the apparent gaps along the support areas are hinges--they don't appear to be used at all. I have to assume that they're used at the start of the auto routine at about 1:10, but because that's not shown, we are assuming that the tote starts on top of the robot, which is what we are concerned about as that is a cause for holding up the match to fix the issue.

[StAxis]

Excellent work guys! Smooth all around, can't wait to see it in action!

[Canon reeves]

Wow, this is just an amazing robot. Could be a solid member, or captain, of any alliance! How many stacks of six can yall produce in a round?

[jeser#1772]

I notice that in your autonomous routine you start with the first yellow tote lifted in the air (above where it normally rests and in it's set location) in your robot's "tote pan".


Also, G13 prohibits preloading totes into the robot. The described situation is most definitely preloading, and thus the match won't start until the situation is corrected.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=928884170485346&set=a.406534759386959.94723.100000913153622&type=1&theater:) :) :)

[dominik.daners]

Out of interest, did you remove the middle wheel out of the KoP drive chassis for stability? or otherwise? If so does it help, because we where considering doing the same too, but didn't have time to do so.

[angusg]

Actually, I don't see them at that point, or at any other point in the video--unless you mean the apparent gaps along the support areas are hinges--they don't appear to be used at all. I have to assume that they're used at the start of the auto routine at about 1:10, but because that's not shown, we are assuming that the tote starts on top of the robot, which is what we are concerned about as that is a cause for holding up the match to fix the issue.

It's good that people are talking about these issues - but yes, Jeser is right, we start with the tote on the floor and the spring loaded, hinged flaps fall down into the position shown at 0:23 in the video, as the first tote is lifted into the robot.

Looking forward to seeing everyone down under in a few days!

[jeser#1772]

Wow, this is just an amazing robot. Could be a solid member, or captain, of any alliance! How many stacks of six can yall produce in a round?

thanks!

we are making 4 to 5 stacks of six(3 with RC)

cheers

[jeser#1772]

Out of interest, did you remove the middle wheel out of the KoP drive chassis for stability? or otherwise? If so does it help, because we where considering doing the same too, but didn't have time to do so.

yes for a better stability and to go over the score platform without any issues (since we are doing it with 3 RCs and 3 totes)
if you want to do the same we can help you in the regional, let me know so i can bring extra parts to do it.

cheers

[jeser#1772]

It's good that people are talking about these issues - but yes, Jeser is right, we start with the tote on the floor and the spring loaded, hinged flaps fall down into the position shown at 0:23 in the video, as the first tote is lifted into the robot.

Looking forward to seeing everyone down under in a few days!

thank you Angus! your english is way better than my! :D

[dominik.daners]

yes for a better stability and to go over the score platform without any issues (since we are doing it with 3 RCs and 3 totes)
if you want to do the same we can help you in the regional, let me know so i can bring extra parts to do it.

cheers
Yes please. Did you just cut the wheel up, or did you remove the side and replace it with some custom hub?

[jeser#1772]

Yes please. Did you just cut the wheel up, or did you remove the side and replace it with some custom hub?


custon hub, i will check with the team today, to bring it in the regional for you

[angusg]

Yes please. Did you just cut the wheel up, or did you remove the side and replace it with some custom hub?

Looking forward to seeing you down there Normanhurst!! Good luck for preparation in the next few days!

[Daiane]

GO RED CRUSADE 4613!:D :D :D

3 days to australian regional!

cheers

[philso]

yes it lift autonomously! we use 6 sensors for this operation

yes we are rookies!

So you sense the presence of the totes in the correct position and lift? Watching your video again, I see a number of little mechanical stops that help get the totes to a consistent location before they are lifted. Very clever. Does this help prevent the stack of totes stay more stable as you drive around? There wasn't any shots of your robot driving more than a foot with a tall stack of totes.

It looks like your robot does what Stretchy and Fetch does but can drive around and what 148 does without needing a tether. It would be cool to see you and these other great teams playing together on the same field.

[angusg]

Yep, we can stack automatically with a system which waits for the tote to be in the right position. There isn't much clever about it, just waiting for the tote to settle.

We can drive around fairly easily with a full stack. Remains to be seen how this goes with the pressure of competition though!

[jeser#1772]

We get to see this in 4 days! 😉👍

see you guys there!

have a safe trip!:)

[PayneTrain]

gg australia

[ScandallB225]

Well thought out strategies.
And the autonomous. Let me quote MARS James

Wow truly impressive..... I am at a loss for words

[philso]

We can drive around fairly easily with a full stack. Remains to be seen how this goes with the pressure of competition though!

There are a number of robots that can build big stacks but most of them have to "tiptoe" around with the stack to avoid spilling it. So far, it only looks like one robot can drive at full speed with a full stack of 6 totes and a recycling container. It is a good sign that yours looks pretty stable so far.

Will there be any webcasts of the Australian Regional? I don't really have to sleep on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday night. ;)

[angusg]

Will there be any webcasts of the Australian Regional? I don't really have to sleep on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday night. ;)

There sure will be! I will find out the URL and post it here later.

[Spirator]

I think we'll need more recycling containers when we play together.

[jeser#1772]

I think we'll need more recycling containers when we play together.

i hope you can grab some more! :)

[Spirator]

You'll find out in 24 hours. ;)

[Jean Tenca]

That is an amazing robot. What a cool idea for storing the cans! Can't wait to see this compete.