View Full Version : BEST Capping Robot youve seen.
While I was wrong about my preseason predictions and the hefty majority of Robots focus on totestacking, there are definitely a few capping specialists. Out of the ones youve seen who would be the top? The robots that are the best at what they do. They can stack as well but I'm talking about the most effective robot that only caps.
JDGallagher
23-03-2015, 11:52
540 was an incredible capper at Virginia. They were getting 4 or 5 caps on 4 stacks, usually 2 of them with litter, during elims.
wilsonmw04
23-03-2015, 12:34
540 was an incredible capper at Virginia. They were getting 4 or 5 caps on 4 stacks, usually 2 of them with litter, during elims.
+1 best capper on the field in VA. I bet they will be much better when they get to Worlds. really excited to see what they are going to do.
Peyton Yeung
23-03-2015, 12:38
For purely capping I'd say 1741 is the best in Indiana. There are some other good cappers but they also focus on building stacks.
BrendanB
23-03-2015, 12:50
133 and 138 are leading the charge in New England along with 230 efficient stacking.
138 is reliable at retrieving two from the step in auto and pulled off the double stack several times at UNH by placing two RCs on one stack.
133 and 138 are leading the charge in New England along with 230 efficient stacking.
138 is reliable at retrieving two from the step in auto and pulled off the double stack several times at UNH by placing two RCs on one stack.
Actually saw your match with them in the playoffs. Was a little disappointed. It seemed like the combo of a weaker 3rd alliance, 138 struggling to finish the double cap and 3467 seeming a little slow ended up finishing you guys.
BrendanB
23-03-2015, 12:58
Actually saw your match with them in the playoffs. Was a little disappointed. It seemed like the combo of a weaker 3rd alliance, 138 struggling to finish the double cap and 3467 seeming a little slow ended up finishing you guys.
It was a disappointing finish but stuff happens. Our operator lost his gamepad for the first 30 seconds so we went from doing two 5 stacks and a 4 stack to two 4 stacks and a 2 stack. That slow down really prevented us from giving 138 something work with quickly.
The first RC 138 placed upside down went on a little wonky so the second one wasn't going on cleanly. It was one of the first times they couldn't pull it off.
pandamonium
23-03-2015, 13:02
192 in Utah was awesome at this strategy. They could pull all 4 off the step 1 at a time and stack on 4.
Jaywalker1711
23-03-2015, 13:22
I'm a bit biased but 1711 was great at capping during elims at FIM Kettering. We capped every stack that was made with bins and noodles every match, usually about four 4 stacks.
Then, at FIM Traverse City, we learned that we can stack fairly well, better than most everyone there. Our strategy changed and we no longer were capping!
Other Michigan teams have mostly been capping their own stacks. There was a rookie team, I believe 5507, that was a bin stealer and capper at TC. It was okay, but it has a rather large footprint which made it unwieldy.
Andrew Lawrence
23-03-2015, 13:25
192 in Utah was awesome at this strategy. They could pull all 4 off the step 1 at a time and stack on 4.
Now this interests me - is there any match video of it?
Rachel Lim
23-03-2015, 13:39
Now this interests me - is there any match video of it?
TBA seems to only have videos where 624 competed, but there are two with 192:
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015utwv_sf1m6 -- they get two from the step because the red alliance gets there first, but they do cap those two and get one tipped over one from their side.
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015utwv_qm56 -- they get one from the step but since they don't have other stacks to cap, they stop with that one
It was a disappointing finish but stuff happens. Our operator lost his gamepad for the first 30 seconds so we went from doing two 5 stacks and a 4 stack to two 4 stacks and a 2 stack. That slow down really prevented us from giving 138 something work with quickly.
The first RC 138 placed upside down went on a little wonky so the second one wasn't going on cleanly. It was one of the first times they couldn't pull it off.
Darn, I was excited to see that alliance, As well as Riot Crews. I want to see 138 with either you guys or 1519 at New Englands.
It was interesting how UNH shaped out. It seems that the field was deep right up until the 5th seed selected their last team, then it dropped off drastically. The fact that the 2nd seed lost to the 6th seed speaks for that in my opinion.
BrendanB
23-03-2015, 13:47
Darn, I was excited to see that alliance, As well as Riot Crews. I want to see 138 with either you guys or 1519 at New Englands.
It was interesting how UNH shaped out. It seems that the field was deep right up until the 5th seed selected their last team, then it dropped off drastically. The fact that the 2nd seed lost to the 6th seed speaks for that in my opinion.
We liked our partners as well. We worked over lunch to help improve 1307's claw to help them handle totes more efficiently. First quarter final they got 10 totes on the platform and in the second match got their three stack capped w litter.
Once we saw the #6 alliance formed we knew who was going to put up some of the highest scores. Both 213 and 501 were putting up a lot of stacks and 133 is an impressive finisher.
saikiranra
23-03-2015, 13:51
At the Long Beach Regional, 330 gathered all 3 containers in auto and set them aside for later use. Later in the match, they picked them up again and set all 3 on top of their 2 stacks of 5 totes. It also looks like they can use that arm to get the containers from the middle.
Edit: Stacks of 5
We liked our partners as well. We worked over lunch to help improve 1307's claw to help them handle totes more efficiently. First quarter final they got 10 totes on the platform and in the second match got their three stack capped w litter.
Once we saw the #6 alliance formed we knew who was going to put up some of the highest scores. Both 213 and 501 were putting up a lot of stacks and 133 is an impressive finisher.
After just watching the matches. I think you guys might have won had you got into semi-finals. 138 could pretty much guarantee in each of the 3 matches that none of your opponents would get more then 3 barrels up as they could pretty much control the step.
nahstobor
23-03-2015, 14:02
Error Code Xero, team 1425 out of the PNW. They can easily cap 5 and 6 stacks with litter.
Edit: Here's a match from them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O62_guepwW0
C9TalonNation
23-03-2015, 14:07
133 and 138 are leading the charge in New England along with 230 efficient stacking.
138 is reliable at retrieving two from the step in auto and pulled off the double stack several times at UNH by placing two RCs on one stack.
Wait, so you guys placed two RCs on one tote stack? How did they score that?
BrendanB
23-03-2015, 14:10
Wait, so you guys placed two RCs on one tote stack? How did they score that?
They (138 Entropy) placed the first RC on the stack upside down slightly sticking off the backside of the stack and the second one rightside up on the other end. Very difficult but their drivers made it look easy.
dradoxen
23-03-2015, 14:18
3322 is one of the best I have seen in Michigan. So far they can only go up to stacks of 4 or 5, but I wouldn't be surprised if they could do 6 by MSC. They capped a 3rd RC on 2 stacks with ease at Woodhaven (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PWyPKmaUnQ&t=134). Not to mention they can grab all 4 RCs off the step in auton.
They (138 Entropy) placed the first RC on the stack upside down slightly sticking off the backside of the stack and the second one rightside up on the other end. Very difficult but their drivers made it look easy.
Agreed, General Scoring formula is just 10*level of tote
a double capped 4 stack is 40 points.
Out of the ones youve seen who would be the top?
Pun intended?
jajabinx124
23-03-2015, 16:18
93 is the best robot that only caps stacks I've seen. They played a crucial part in their alliance at Lake superior and Wisconsin.
Mike Norton
23-03-2015, 18:30
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x4E4yEX2irw
This is what happens when you get two good capers. They have to build their own tower. Two 6 stacks with time to cap more but no stacks around to cap.
brandon.cottrell
23-03-2015, 18:47
1572 got seeded #1 because of their capping ability. Their RC score was way above everyone else at Inland Empire. The alliance they made with 359 was awesome.
OWilliamson
23-03-2015, 19:01
I would like to mention our alliance partners from Utah, 3374. I don't have any video, but with their arm they could snag recycling containers from the step, place litter in them, and place them on our stacks of 4. In the first quarterfinal match they actually pulled all 4 from the step.
Pic of 138 Entropy's double capped stack at UNH day two.
http://i.imgur.com/JajC5ZY.jpg
Anthony4939
23-03-2015, 21:06
I enjoyed 1305 in Waterloo.
Agreed, General Scoring formula is just 10*level of tote
a double capped 4 stack is 40 points.
This ONLY applies to double-capped stacks, though. For a single-stack that's capped, it's... wait for it... 6*level of tote. (Technically, it's 4*level of tote, plus tote score--but there are some shortcuts that can be made.)
Ken Streeter
23-03-2015, 22:29
The best cappers that we on 1519 have been with in New England are 95, 138, and 230. All three of these robots are capable of capping stacks faster than we can build them, so we'd be very pleased to be allied with any of them!
The Grasshoppers, 95, were our first pick at the Week 1 Granite State District Event and were essential for our elimination alliance strategy.
Entropy, 138, was also a great capper at GSD and has upped their game quite a bit since Week 1 through both a canburglar and double-capping as demonstrated at UNH in Week 4. However, we haven't had the privilege of playing with 138 since Week 1.
The Gaelhawks, 230, were our first pick at the Week 3 UMass Dartmouth District Event. In addition to being a quick capper, they are a good landfill robot in their own right.
We're hoping we have the opportunity to be allied with each of these awesome capping robots at the New England Championship event!
There are also some other great capping robots we haven't had the privilege to play with yet, but since this topic is focused on capping robot's we've seen personally, I'll limit our shout-out to these three.
We realized that we couldn't stack well from the center station with the state of the polycarb at St. Joseph (our robot requires driver alignment of totes, you could say,) so we picked alliance partners to join our seventh alliance who could stack solidly. We made it into the semifinals, capping 3 stacks per match. It was a similar strategy we used at Southfield to make it into the semifinals.
Not the best by far, and not our only strategy (we usually build a 4 stack with a container on top, from the chute,) but it worked out well for us. We really enjoy 2014-style alliance play. :)
Mackenzie W
25-03-2015, 22:31
I enjoyed 1305 in Waterloo.
Aw shucks, thanks! We'll be competing at North Bay this weekend, and this time our robot won't freeze in autonomous!
For anyone who's curious, our stacking arm uses three string potentiometers mounted on our three pivot points, and autolevels the wrist holding the recycling bin so that the driver doesn't have to manually control everything. We thought we could only cap 4 tote high stacks, but in Waterloo we capped off a 5 tote stack in eliminations with ease.
Ichlieberoboter
25-03-2015, 23:20
Team 93 (New Apple Corps) was almost definitely the best capper at Lake Superior. They won by having an alliance with 4818, an amazing tote stacker, and doing 4-5 stacks a match, multiple ones with litter.
Will worlds see a demand for purely capping robots? Will they need to go 5 high? 6 high? It will be interesting to see alliances form. Does highly seeded hybrid team take a stacker or a capper first round?
Ryan Dognaux
27-03-2015, 15:52
Will worlds see a demand for purely capping robots? Will they need to go 5 high? 6 high?
We're thinking yes. If you're paired with one of the best landfill robots and best human loading robots, you're going to need someone who can solely focus on the extra cans from the step.
With some modifications to our robot we should be able to take cans from the step and place them on top of 6 stacks on the scoring platform. We're going to spend the next few weeks testing to see how reliable we'd be at it and be ready to make that change at champs as needed.
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