Teams Capable of 3+ Full Stacks

[Gregor]

What are the teams that have currently shown the ability to do 3 or more full stacks of 6 with container and noodle in an official match? Provide video if you have it!

So far I have:

118
148
195
254
1023
1114
1325
2056
3476
4488

The list must be longer than that, who are they?

[Kevin Sheridan]

1671 and 971.

[jajabinx124]

Team 2826 is more than capable of doing 3 capped 6 stacks(They don't noodle the RC but they still deserve to be mentioned).

Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgCg6wy0gC8&index=115&list=PLx_nxv3OgJ-3TI4SK4QD5TFi3Rsb5LwUj) is one of their matches where they accomplish that.

[RahulPatel]

3683 can do three 36 point stacks (5 high with litter) and a co-op.

http://www.watchfirstnow.com/archives/122868884

[The other Gabe]

in a good game 955 can do it... happened a few times (I think)


Best I could find was 2 6's and a 4 stack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCYcIR8gi8M&list=PLwES-SbpsnxwcUwESUPZT0A_P6LASx5W3&index=146

[Ben Martin]

When the cans are properly oriented & nearby--

1403
1640
2590

[dodar]

How many of these teams listed are landfill robots?

[Nato]

What are the teams that have currently shown the ability to do 3 or more full stacks of 6 with container and noodle in an official match? Provide video if you have it!

So far I have:

118
148
195
254
1023
1114
1325
2056
3476
4488

The list must be longer than that, who are they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iCgPSn9i-g

Thanks to 1538 for getting the RCs.

[Abhishek R]

624 did it in Qualification 50 and both the Finals matches at the Lone Star Regional. 3 stacks with 6 totes and litter, so 42 points each.

(Qualification 50) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MWHQPuG8AE
(Final 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9OfA-_XU-8
(Final 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz7wfz3v6cU

[MrForbes]

looks like 2122 did it too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQplHScOC0k

but I was on the other end of the field, so I didn't watch as well as I should have!

[WeJohnFriedIt]

Team 3824 did it at Smoky Mountain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TELqGM6DkIU&app=desktop

[Chris is me]

One limitation of this list is that it required these robots to either be on alliances where they made all of the stacks and caps themselves, or they were on alliances that received containers from the center in auto. Some robots, particularly tethered ramp robots, are possibly able to do this, but they've deferred game piece control to alliance partners for a more conservative strategy, and by design can't have center bin autonomous modes.

For example, 5254 got extremely close to doing so at Finger Lakes, but 340 took possession of the final can of their last stack as it was safer to work in parallel than in series. They were one tote short as a result (340 caps 5 stacks). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_nJgFuGVOI

[Dragonking]

33

[Clayton Summerall]

4587 did it in the finals at Lonestar.

http://youtu.be/xz7wfz3v6cU

[Ninja_Fish]

548 is capable of getting 3 5 stacks and still have 30 - 40 seconds remaining. Although the RC must be upright, 548 shows they could upright 3 RCs if needed and still have time for each of their stacks of five.

[mwmac]

looks like 2122 did it too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQplHScOC0k

but I was on the other end of the field, so I didn't watch as well as I should have!

You beat me to it, Mr. Forbes. Team Tators were able to put up 3 - 42 pt stacks with time to spare. Working on getting 4...

[orangelight]

548 is capable of getting 3 5 stacks and still have 30 - 40 seconds remaining. Although the RC must be upright, 548 shows they could upright 3 RCs if needed and still have time for each of their stacks of five.

We were doing 4 stacks of 5 on the practice field at MSC but with all the RC upright

[Canop3n3r]

Here is a Video of team 148 getting 3 stacks with RC. Love their Ramp/Elevator Design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3zbhZvjbTQ

[Kevin Leonard]

So:
Stacks of 6:
33
67
68
118
148
195
254
314
368
624
955
971
987
1023
1114
1325
1403
1619
1640
1671
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2590
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)
3476
4488
4587
Stacks of 5:
548
1296
1678
3683

Split into two by request
Continuously updating

[Louisiana Jones]

S.W.A.T. 1806 consistently was able to make three full stacks of 6 plus noodles at the Oklahoma City Regional with time to flip RC's. 1296 The Full Metal Jackets was able to make 4 stacks of 5 with noodles, which made the finals a crazy showdown. Links to some of those matches below.

http://youtu.be/Yh0Y3rDIUBM

http://youtu.be/R0N3u-pgDj8

http://youtu.be/vivqkBdgVjU

[Jared Russell]

So:
33
118
148
195
254
548
624
955
971
1023
1114
1325
1403
1640
1671
1806
2056
2122
2590
3476
3683
4488

I have seen 368, 987, 2826, 1678 (5 tall) do this more than once.

[ThunderousPrime]

68 Truck Town Thunder

https://youtu.be/6AUEOqAcgTQ

[Kpchem]

At the Colorado Regional, 1619 was able to do this fairly consistently. I only ever saw them work from the feeder station.

Update: Not many videos of the Colorado Regional online with 1619 except for elims, where they were splitting feeder station totes with 1730 and therefore never got 3 complete stacks up. But I know that they did do it at some point over the course of the weekend.

[Rkant14]

2170 is able to do three stacks in a game. But we average around two 6s and a 4

Here's a video where we put up 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8rdAwCWKPo

[Bpk9p4]

1756 can
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015ilch_qm33

[lovelj]

Team 3824 did it at Smoky Mountain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TELqGM6DkIU&app=desktop

3824's goal is every stack in under 45 sec. Team captain targets 90 sec mark and 45 sec mark on clock. In finals at Smoky they did it every time (2 fully capped stacks and a 6 container stack) but ran out of containers (other alliance member MARS did one full capped and one 6 container stack). Thus the need for a good canister bot on an alliance.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h2hHNrONJ7U

[dodar]

How many of these teams are corner only stackers?

[Kevin Leonard]

Landfill:
33
118
254
368
987
1114
2056

Feeder:
67
68
148
195
314
624
955
971
1023
1325
1403
1619
1640
1671
1806
2122
2170
2590
2826
3476
3683
4488
548
1296
1678

Both:
254
1114
2056

[MarcD79]

It was a real pleasure to be field reset at NE Champs on Saturday. Watching 1519, 195, 2170 & more. The one to watch is clearly 195. I have been watching them all season. They are far better than 1519.They CONSISTANTLY place at least 4 6-stacks with RC & noodles. They will only be better in STL. I predict 5-6 full stacks w/RC & noodles. Their HP is quick & accurate. Prediction; they WILL win their division & go on to Einstein. They WILL be at least finalists.

[ThunderousPrime]

I predict 5-6 full stacks w/RC & noodles.They WILL be at least finalists.

With only 30 totes behind the glass only 5 six stacks are possible from the HP Station.

An aside who's been able to do 4 capped 5/6 stacks in a single match? I know 1114 and 254 have.

[Kevin Leonard]

It was a real pleasure to be field reset at NE Champs on Saturday. Watching 1519, 195, 2170 & more. The one to watch is clearly 195. I have been watching them all season. They are far better than 1519.They CONSISTANTLY place at least 4 6-stacks with RC & noodles. They will only be better in STL. I predict 5-6 full stacks w/RC & noodles. Their HP is quick & accurate. Prediction; they WILL win their division & go on to Einstein. They WILL be at least finalists.

195 has never made 4 fully capped stacks of 6 in competition. I've watched. They quite often made 3 stacks though.

[Arhowk]

314

I don't have a video of it atm but check out the Lansing or midland finals, they won both consistently pulling off 3 stacks of 6++

[ThunderousPrime]

Also since when has 3683 (Team Dave) been working from the HP station. Maybe I missed it at Windsor but I thought they were a Landfill bot.

[svenw]

Also since when has 3683 (Team Dave) been working from the HP station. Maybe I missed it at Windsor but I thought they were a Landfill bot.
We can operate out of the human player zone with help from our ramp, or from the landfill. We played about 50-50 at Windsor and Waterloo depending on the strength of our alliance. During the playoffs at Windsor we were purely landfill.

[themccannman]

Pro-tip: you only need 36 point stacks to lock in the win. Making 4+ perfect stacks solo won't mean much in 2 weeks. :rolleyes:

[Kevin Leonard]

I'm told 3683 can only make 3 full stacks if they're running from the HP.

[Banderoonies]

You are correct, 195 easily puts up 3+ capped six-stacks plus noodle EVERY match.

However, when positioned at driver station 2 or 3, we maximize even further having about 20 seconds left to continue to stack whatever totes remain.

Here is one match video I found with 15 seconds remaining after the 3rd stack is placed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLCX6vv33Gc

Our human player does not waste any time, her body movements have been carefully timed to maximize output. Practices 7 days a week like an athlete till she's exhausted.

[mott]

At the Colorado Regional, 1619 was able to do this fairly consistently. I only ever saw them work from the feeder station.

http://upacreekrobotics.smugmug.com/Colorado-Regional-2015/i-L9dDggk

Above is a link to our "enhanced" video of Qual Match 13 from Colorado. Like many teams, we've been working to "up" our game before St. Louis!

*Credit to Ed and our awesome A/V team for the video. We'll try to get some more Colorado videos up soon.

[Abhishek R]

Before people start making some hard predictions, I want to remind people that the cans are still the limiting resource on the field. If you can make 3+ stacks, that's great for quals, but how the divisions work out may decide matches if the fast can grabbers end up unevenly spread out across each division.

Tl;Dr cans still > everything

[XaulZan11]

Tl;Dr cans still > everything

That is assuming the two "best" can grabbers in the division pair up, which I think is more likely to not happen than happen. I predict most of the division final matches will be split on cans and thus stacking will win most divisions.

That being said, I expect the world champion alliance to come from the unlikely division where the two best can grabbers pair up. So, I do agree with the common belief that can grabbing will, in the end, be all the matters.

[Gregor]

That is assuming the two "best" can grabbers in the division pair up, which I think is more likely to not happen than happen. I predict most of the division final matches will be split on cans and thus stacking will win most divisions.

That being said, I expect the world champion alliance to come from the unlikely division where the two best can grabbers pair up. So, I do agree with the common belief that can grabbing will, in the end, be all the matters.

The weaker alliance wants a can battle, they don't want to split the cans, and the weaker alliance should be blue going into finals, thus they get to choose if they split the cans or go for the battle of the fastest.

[MarcD79]

With only 30 totes behind the glass only 5 six stacks are possible from the HP Station.

An aside who's been able to do 4 capped 5/6 stacks in a single match? I know 1114 and 254 have.

MY mistake, they will have another team that pulls from the landfill, who can do 2 or 3 full stacks w/RC & noodle to make a total of at least 5-6...maybe more.

[MarcD79]

195 has never made 4 fully capped stacks of 6 in competition. I've watched. They quite often made 3 stacks though.

They get better every time. Only time will tell. But they have gotten attention, you admit you have watched them. By the way, I am in no way associated with this team. I am with team 176. I just think they have a great chance this year.

[Clem1640]

1640 made three capped stacks of 6 totes (2 with litter) at MAR Championships.

[13spangs]

At our first regional 1756 almost cleared the landfill our first try. When our tether was knotted at the last minute we were force to try it. If our driver would have hit it the correct way of 3,3,6,6 I'm pretty confident we would have cleared it. The feeder station most of the time was a lot more consistent and we could easily produce three stack form there by our second regional, reason being why we haven't attempted to clear the whole landfill again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGwwnA2oW34&index=39&list=PLGEVWSs4MszgG8Tb8agC9wQRyaHUmAe_O

[MaGiC_PiKaChU]

3360 can do that from the landfill, or with a ramp when everything goes right

[Dunngeon]

The weaker alliance wants a can battle, they don't want to split the cans, and the weaker alliance should be blue going into finals, thus they get to choose if they split the cans or go for the battle of the fastest.

Or choose which robot they want to tie up for quite a bit during the match.....

If the second pick (w/ cheesecaked grabbers) is able to tie up one of the top scorers on the other alliance, it can quickly become about more than just the cans.

That's one of the reasons we have 10lbs remaining.

[Cash4587]

Why doesn't our team get the recognition we deserve.. :(

We can do 3 capped stacks of 6 with noodles and if all goes well there is time to deploy a fourth uncapped stack. (Hasn't happened yet but we are hoping it will) We work entirely out of the HP Station and are a tethered robot.

We also are working out the bugs for our 20pt auton. We are still unsure or not if it will be done in time for champs. That being said, we will be working non-stop until it does get on fully working.

[ThunderousPrime]

3360 can do that from the landfill, or with a ramp when everything goes right

This is practice since Montreal right? I pretty sure you didn't get 3 6s at Montreal and I know you didnt have a ramp. I wouldn't be surprised that youre robot could pull it off because its quite capable.

[indubitably]

2338 did 3 from HP at Midwest: https://youtu.be/U5NikmvrJpQ

Hadn't focused on landfill since Wisconsin where we did 2 consistently.

[Kevin Leonard]

Stacks of 6:
33
67
68
118
148
195
254
314
368
624
955
971
987
1023
1114
1325
1403
1619
1640
1671
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2590
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)
3476
4488
4587

Stacks of 5:
548
1296
1678
3683

Split into two by request
Continuously updating
[/QUOTE]
Why doesn't our team get the recognition we deserve.. :(

We can do 3 capped stacks of 6 with noodles and if all goes well there is time to deploy a fourth uncapped stack. (Hasn't happened yet but we are hoping it will) We work entirely out of the HP Station and are a tethered robot.


I mean I've heard of you but I had no idea if you were doing that well or not. Care to provide video to back up you claim? (match video not practice)

3360 can do that from the landfill, or with a ramp when everything goes right

Match video or it didn't happen.

[Dunngeon]

2338 did 3 from HP at Midwest: https://youtu.be/U5NikmvrJpQ

Hadn't focused on landfill since Wisconsin where we did 2 consistently.

I hope that you guys have talked to your human player about his operation of the chute door... He's lucky he didn't get any fouls when he let go of the door with the tote stuck.


I mean I've heard of you but I had no idea if you were doing that well or not. Care to provide video to back up you claim? (match video not practice)



Match video or it didn't happen.

http://youtu.be/xz7wfz3v6cU

They did it fairly consistently throughout lone star.

[Kevin Leonard]

I hope that you guys have talked to your human player about his operation of the chute door... He's lucky he didn't get any fouls when he let go of the door with the tote stuck.



http://youtu.be/xz7wfz3v6cU

They did it fairly consistently throughout lone star.

That's pretty freaking awesome.

[Adam Freeman]

Stacks of 6:
67

Unfortunately we have never been able to put up 3 full stacks in competition. We were very close once at Livonia to doing it, but ended up dropping the can. Maybe someday...

[Clem1640]

1640 made three capped stacks of 6 totes (2 with litter) at MAR Championships.

Here is a link to the 1640 video: http://youtu.be/La8kdWltIPM

[MaGiC_PiKaChU]

Match video or it didn't happen.

it didn't happen, but we'll do that in saint louis i'm pretty sure

[MaGiC_PiKaChU]

This is practice since Montreal right? I pretty sure you didn't get 3 6s at Montreal and I know you didnt have a ramp. I wouldn't be surprised that youre robot could pull it off because its quite capable.

we had a ramp in practice matches, but didn't have enough spare weight to use it for real. It takes about 10 seconds to stack 6 totes using it.

We also found a solution to avoid getting stuck on noodles, so we can also put up 3 stacks from the landfill

[Michael Leicht]

When the cans are properly oriented & nearby--

1403
1640
2590

Thanks Ben for the mention. At bridgewater (see video below) we did 3x 5 totes stacks capped and littered. We are looking to increase our lifter speed for worlds and with the addition of a grabber at the top turn a stack of 5x into a six.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPd6R04yOU&feature=youtu.be&t=19625

Regards,

Michael

[EricLeifermann]

Stacks of 6:
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)

We haven't needed to noodle in either of our regional competitions. We have been practicing like mad and will be noodling at champs.

[indubitably]

4587 making 3 stacks: https://youtu.be/C6BMumPB5OM

I hope that you guys have talked to your human player about his operation of the chute door... He's lucky he didn't get any fouls when he let go of the door with the tote stuck.

Fouls were called that match, not exactly sure for what though. And that was the "happened once, won't happen again" match. At least he was careful enough to set the tote back down before operating the chute door again.

[lynca]

Landfill (3 6-stacks) + 20 pt auton:
33
118
254
987
1114
2056



It will be interesting to see how these teams are divided into divisions.
3 6-stacks + 20 pt auto from the landfill will be huge to posting 240+ scores in eliminations.

[SoccerTaco]

Stacks of 6:
<snip?


Hi Kevin,

3824 has put up 3 stacks of 6. We noodled 2 of the 3 ourselves, our alliance partner 3140 was kind enough to noodle the third for us. Does that count for your list?

Here is the video - 3824 is on the blue alliance, top right of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TELqGM6DkIU&app=desktop

Thanks,
Steve

[Kevin Leonard]

Stacks of 6:
33
67
68
118
148
195
254
314
368
624
955
971
987
1023
1114
1325
1403
1619
1640
1671
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2590
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)
3476
4488
4587

Stacks of 5:
548
1296
1678
3683

Split into two by request
Continuously updating
Stacks of 6:
33
68
118
148
195
254
314
368
624
955
971
987
1023
1114
1325
1619
1640
1671
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2590
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)
3476
3824
4488
4587

Stacks of 5:
125
548
1296
1403
1678
3683

[StAxis]

So with this list, and I imagine there will be lots more at champs that aren't accounted for here, we're looking at the top 3 alliances likely being able to do 6-7 full stacks. Maybe even the 4th alliance.

Can wars are going to be huge in semis and beyond. I'm curious if any stack and cap separately alliances will be able to top any of the cap and stack alone alliances.

[RonnieS]

So with this list, and I imagine there will be lots more at champs that aren't accounted for here, we're looking at the top 3 alliances likely being able to do 6-7 full stacks. Maybe even the 4th alliance.

Can wars are going to be huge in semis and beyond. I'm curious if any stack and cap separately alliances will be able to top any of the cap and stack alone alliances.

Watch MSC Finals, 3098 and 27 had a pretty good combo going, at worlds such a combo with a stronger single scoring bot would be a lethal.

Example: Captain can put up 3 solo stacks and has fast can grabbers, then picks a team like 27 and their last pick they get a pure tote scorer that maybe is an auto juggernaut. I think you might see this become more of a possibility due to the large number of auto can burglars we will see.

-Ronnie

[Brandon Holley]

We (125) were able to put up 3x capped 5s numerous times throughout the competition season.

Brando

[mott]

In the interest of advanced scouting, it would be awesome to see this list enhanced with the following:

Does this team run a 20pt auton?
Does this team Grab Step RCs during auton? If so, how many?


Our findings are that most of these 3+ stack landfill bots are the best 20pt auton bots but if you don't run the 20pt auton, you really need to be a proficient (if not "world-class") RC grabber to be a high seed/high seed 1st pick.

[M1KRONAUT]

I would be very surprised if 3130 can't do this, but I haven't seen it. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

[JABot67]

In the interest of advanced scouting, it would be awesome to see this list enhanced with the following:

Does this team run a 20pt auton?
Does this team Grab Step RCs during auton? If so, how many?


Our findings are that most of these 3+ stack landfill bots are the best 20pt auton bots but if you don't run the 20pt auton, you really need to be a proficient (if not "world-class") RC grabber to be a high seed/high seed 1st pick.

I would imagine that reliability is also an issue. If a robot can only do 3 fully capped stacks in the fairest of weather, but normally only makes one or two stacks, it could easily be lower on the list than another robot that can do 2 fully capped stacks but can do something special like use cans on their sides (like 1983 or 67, who have to my knowledge have never made 3 stacks).

[saikiranra]

2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)


To be fair, that is his constant state :rolleyes:

[Pouncing Zebra]

Expect it from team 2826 Wave Robotics at Champs http://youtu.be/NVxWY06J2XU

[Pouncing Zebra]

Stacks of 6:
33
67
68
118
148
195
254
314
368
624
955
971
987
1023
1114
1325
1403
1619
1640
1671
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2590
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)
3476
4488
4587

Stacks of 5:
548
1296
1678
3683

Expect Noodles from us :D

[jajabinx124]

I would be very surprised if 3130 can't do this, but I haven't seen it. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Of all the matches I've seen of them I don't think so, but the reason they couldn't at North star(Or at least in eliminations) is because 2826 takes possession of 3 RC's after their auto(Which they use later on). 3130 was forced to grab 2 RC's off the STEP with their can grabber(Which seems to be limited from only getting 2 center cans of the STEP because of their can grabber design (https://youtu.be/JFXkJV_mwJE?t=14)) and then they create 2 capped 6 stacks.

I would certainly expect 3130 at champs to be capable of doing 3 capped 6 stacks though even if they haven't done it already. They have had a solid year!

[The other Gabe]

Or choose which robot they want to tie up for quite a bit during the match.....

If the second pick (w/ cheesecaked grabbers) is able to tie up one of the top scorers on the other alliance, it can quickly become about more than just the cans.

That's one of the reasons we have 10lbs remaining.

you guys are not going to be a second pick

[The other Gabe]

(like 1983 or 67, who have to my knowledge have never made 3 stacks).

1983 has not yet shown the speed to do much more than 2 6 stacks, but has one of the fastest Canburglars (for 1 can) and can deal with cans on their sides

[Kevin Leonard]

It'll definitely be interesting to see how many of each of these robots are in each division.
I'll update later today with that information (hopefully!).

[Jacob.B]

Watch MSC Finals, 3098 and 27 had a pretty good combo going, at worlds such a combo with a stronger single scoring bot would be a lethal.

Example: Captain can put up 3 solo stacks and has fast can grabbers, then picks a team like 27 and their last pick they get a pure tote scorer that maybe is an auto juggernaut. I think you might see this become more of a possibility due to the large number of auto can burglars we will see.

-Ronnie

Ending the day on Friday, we wanted to stay near the top and pick RUSH. If we ended up in that position we would of taken 573's role, but I felt we would be very capable of putting down 4 6 stacks for 27 to cap.

[Breakaway3937]

The pieces are in place for a great elimination alliance. To go far, you will need an auto robot and two canburglars. If you want to be successful at the high levels, you will need to do one or the other. Right now, there is not a single four RC robot that can quickly get the RCs off the step before they could possible be stolen by the other team. 610 is a quick 4 RC bot, but they can be beaten by fast hookem robots like 3310 and 118. Once their hookems are in, 610 cannot come around and grab the RC. I am sure with their caliber, 610 will have some awesome things in store. I see the winning alliance on Einstein having a 20 pt auto bot and two hookem bots going off the step. With the possibility of diluted divisions this year, we may not see this alliance but who knows.

[Bpk9p4]

1756 was able to put up 3 stack of 6 from the feeder station almost every match at Midwest Regional
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015ilch_qm33

we were also able to put up 2 stacks of 6 and 1 stack of 5 from the landfill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGww...C9wQRyaHUmAe_O

Other Features
- 20 point auto
- Auto can grabber
- Telop can grabber http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015ilch_qm54

[Kevin Leonard]

33
68
118
148
195
254
314
368
624
955
971
987
1023
1114
1325
1619
1640
1671
1756
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2590
2826 (Gregor is annoyed you don't noodle your stacks)
3476
3824
4488
4587

Stacks of 5:
125
548
1296
1403
1678
3683

[asid61]

Pro-tip: you only need 36 point stacks to lock in the win. Making 4+ perfect stacks solo won't mean much in 2 weeks. :rolleyes:

Why? The cans are valuable because they essentially triple the stack points (plus noodle). If you use one less tote in stacks of 5, wouldn't that mean you have to use three extra totes per capped stack of 5 to make up the difference with capped stacks of 6 once the cans are out?

[Gaurav27]

Stacks Size Teams Performance Type Division
3 6 68 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 314 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 1023 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 1640 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 2338 Powerhouse Feeder Archimedes
3 6 254 Powerhouse Landfill Carson
3 6 1325 Powerhouse Feeder Carson
3 6 4488 Powerhouse Feeder Carson
3 6 4587 Powerhouse Feeder Carson
3 5 1296 Powerhouse Feeder Carson
3 6 368 Powerhouse Landfill Carver
3 6 971 Powerhouse Feeder Carver
3 6 148 Powerhouse Feeder Curie
3 6 1114 Powerhouse Landfill Curie
3 5 3683 Powerhouse Feeder Curie
3 6 1619 Powerhouse Feeder Galileo
3 6 2056 Powerhouse Landfill Galileo
3 6 33 Powerhouse Landfill Hopper
3 6 987 Powerhouse Landfill Hopper
3 6 2590 Powerhouse Feeder Hopper
3 6 2826 Powerhouse Feeder Hopper
3 5 125 Powerhouse Feeder Hopper
3 5 548 Powerhouse Feeder Hopper
3 6 118 Powerhouse Landfill Newton
3 6 195 Powerhouse Feeder Newton
3 6 955 Powerhouse Feeder Newton
3 6 1671 Powerhouse Feeder Newton
3 5 1678 Powerhouse Feeder Newton
3 6 624 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 1806 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 2122 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 2170 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 3476 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 6 3824 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla
3 5 1403 Powerhouse Feeder Tesla

[wireties]

With only 30 totes behind the glass only 5 six stacks are possible from the HP Station.

An aside who's been able to do 4 capped 5/6 stacks in a single match? I know 1114 and 254 have.

1296 was doing 4 capped 5-stacks in the OKC elims

[Kevin Leonard]

Interestingly, this list never got updated after Champs. I added a few and changed a few, but let me know if there are more teams I'm missing ( I definitely am)

3 Feeder Stacks of 5:
125
548
1296
1403
1678
3683

3 Feeder Stacks of 6:
68
195
234
314
525
624
955
971
1023
1296
1325
1619
1640
1671
1730
1756
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2468
2590
2826
3824
4039
4488
4587
5254
4 Feeder Stacks of 6:
148
254
1114
1296
3476
3 Landfill Stacks of 5:
3683
3 Landfill Stacks of 6:
16
33
118
254
368
987
1114
1717
2056

[jajabinx124]

Interestingly, this list never got updated after Champs. I added a few and changed a few, but let me know if there are more teams I'm missing ( I definitely am)



525 was capable of creating 3 stacks of 6 from the feeder station.

[Jakest3r42]

3 Feeder Stacks of 5:
548


We actually made a few changes to our robot design:D So we now have the ability to put up 3 capped six stacks from the feeder.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137678

[Kevin Leonard]

We actually made a few changes to our robot design:D So we now have the ability to put up 3 capped six stacks from the feeder.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137678

Haven't seen it in a real match yet- doesn't count yet :P

525 was capable of creating 3 stacks of 6 from the feeder station.

Added

[BBray_T1296]

5 Feeder Stacks of 6: 1296 (https://youtu.be/3gwoguT37RY?t=4h36m5s) (finals match 1 at 4:36:05 if the timelink doesn't work)

We are in the far Red corner.

[sastoller]

5 Feeder Stacks of 6: 1296 (https://youtu.be/3gwoguT37RY?t=4h36m5s) (finals match 1 at 4:36:05 if the timelink doesn't work)

We are in the far Red corner.
Nice stacking!

Were y'all able to get four capped at 6 high from the feeder station?

[The other Gabe]

I seem to remember 3309 putting up 3 stacks of 5 from the landfill, but I can't access youtube from where I am right now...

[BBray_T1296]

Nice stacking!

Were y'all able to get four capped at 6 high from the feeder station?

We did in our last match at TRI (https://youtu.be/vh8zu2zvJqg?t=9h26m27s), we are on the close blue corner.

[The other Gabe]

We did in our last match at TRI (https://youtu.be/vh8zu2zvJqg?t=9h26m27s), we are on the close blue corner.

they grey carpet freaked me out :ahh: I got used to the colored stuff and couldnt find out which alliance was which. also that is a brilliant design and I can't believe I didnt see your robot until now.

also, I found a video of 3309 doing their 3 stacks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph96GQIgHiA

[logank013]

According to my IRI Pre-scouting sheet, These are the teams that are going to IRI that I have found to be able to do this.

Consistently:
107 (Added after season. Mentor says consistent for off season events.)
148
195
1023
1114
1619
1730
1806
2122
2468

Honorable Mentions:
135 Consistent 3-5 stacks with litter (36 Point Stacks)
234 3 Full Stacks with litter ONCE on Archimedes (Capable if cans are not knocked over and other don't use the cans by wall)
548 Consistent 3-5 stacks with litter (36 Point Stacks)

[Abhishek R]

According to my IRI Pre-scouting sheet, These are the teams that are going to IRI that I have found to be able to do this.

Consistently:
107 (Added after season. Mentor says consistent for off season events.)
148
195
1023
1114
1619
1730
1806
2122
2468

Honorable Mentions:
135 Consistent 3-5 stacks with litter (36 Point Stacks)
234 3 Full Stacks with litter ONCE on Archimedes (Capable if cans are not knocked over and other don't use the cans by wall)
548 Consistent 3-5 stacks with litter (36 Point Stacks)

I think you're missing quite a few teams. Off the top of my head I can think of 118, 2056, etc.

Also, 148 will not be going to IRI.

[Mark Holschuh]

You can add 2826 to the list.

Ref: http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015hop_qm118

[bkahl]

I think you're missing quite a few teams. Off the top of my head I can think of 118, 2056, etc.

Also, 148 will not be going to IRI.

Cmon Abhishek, you can mention yourself :D

[Abhishek R]

Cmon Abhishek, you can mention yourself :D

Haha I guess we've made 3 stacks a few times as well :)

[Mike Marandola]

Interestingly, this list never got updated after Champs. I added a few and changed a few, but let me know if there are more teams I'm missing ( I definitely am)

3 Feeder Stacks of 5:
125
548
1296
1403
1678
3683

3 Feeder Stacks of 6:
68
195
234
314
525
624
955
971
1023
1296
1325
1619
1640
1671
1730
1756
1806
2056
2122
2170
2338
2468
2590
2826
3824
4039
4488
4587
5254
4 Feeder Stacks of 6:
148
254
1114
1296
3476
3 Landfill Stacks of 5:
3683
3 Landfill Stacks of 6:
16
33
118
254
368
987
1114
1717
2056


While we didn't do it in a match yet (doesn't count, I know), we are able to make 3 five stacks from the chute with new additions. And if the stars align, with the added IRI rules, we can make 3 six stacks. We are looking forward to showing off our increased output next week.

[logank013]

I think you're missing quite a few teams. Off the top of my head I can think of 118, 2056, etc.

Also, 148 will not be going to IRI.

yeah but 118 and 2056 don't do it consistently. Both teams are very capable of doing 3 full stacks, just aren't completely consistent at it. and I added 148 because they were on the invite list and I knew them off the top of my head.

[Abhishek R]

yeah but 118 and 2056 don't do it consistently. Both teams are very capable of doing 3 full stacks, just aren't completely consistent at it. and I added 148 because they were on the invite list and I knew them off the top of my head.

While I don't agree with that, it's hard to argue against the fact that they were consistent enough to captain an alliance to Einstein and beyond.

[mwibbels]

I seem to remember 3309 putting up 3 stacks of 5 from the landfill, but I can't access youtube from where I am right now...

They definitely can make 3 stacks of 5 from the landfill. A particular favorite for me is finals match 2 at Arizona west https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph96GQIgHiA

[The other Gabe]

They definitely can make 3 stacks of 5 from the landfill. A particular favorite for me is finals match 2 at Arizona west https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph96GQIgHiA

that was a good match ;)


also; both 118 and 2056 were doing 3 capped 6 stacks consistently at Worlds: they were equal to, and sometimes better than, 1114, especially on Einstein

[logank013]

While I don't agree with that, it's hard to argue against the fact that they were consistent enough to captain an alliance to Einstein and beyond.

2056's matches on Einstein

1st. Match: 2 full stacks and a stack of 3 w/ can & litter

2nd match: 1 full stack and a stack of 4 w/ can and litter.

Neither matches hit 3 full stacks proving lack of consistency

118's matches on Einstein

1st match: 2 full stacks
2nd match: 3 full stacks (3rd stack without can) (clear landfill)
3rd match: 1 full stack and a stack of 3 w/ can no litter
4th match: 3 full stacks (2 without cans)
5th match: 1 full stack and a stack of 5 w/ can and a stack of 2 w/o can
6th match: 2 full stacks (3rd full stack without can in robot but ran out of time)
7th match: 2 full stacks (1 without can) and a 5 stack without can.

2 times where 118 got 3 full stacks. And neither time, all three stacks had cans and were right at the buzzer. Proves 118 is capable of 3 full stack, just not consistent.

I'm talking about consistency. As a scouter, I'm told to look at the data. Data shows both teams are capable of 3 full stacks. Just not at all consistent. I'm sorry if this sound like an argument. I don't mean it to be an argument ;)

[logank013]

You can add 2826 to the list.

Ref: http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015hop_qm118

Duh... How did I forget them. They are listed at 3 full stacks on my scout sheet. Just forgot to put them down. Haha