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Jared
15-04-2015, 14:02
Carson has the highest average OPR (44.08) and 1/4 of the top 24 teams (by OPR). This is going to be a stacked division!

Team List:
16
20
60
67
85
93
173
203
225
236
246
254
375
399
418
467
558
973
999
1058
1241
1296
1306
1325
1458
1501
1510
1511
1519
1629
1710
1711
1730
1885
2075
2085
2283
2377
2471
2521
2534
2601
2905
3256
3339
3478
3481
3506
3547
3604
3728
3880
3946
4028
4215
4488
4499
4574
4587
4818
4953
4980
5053
5059
5122
5254
5338
5406
5416
5510
5549
5625
5655
5659
5696
5719

Gaurav27
15-04-2015, 14:11
Great resource for a quick summary!
http://championship-notifier.evanforbes.net:3000/division/Carson

Jean Tenca
15-04-2015, 14:13
Hello Carson! We look forward to playing with all these great teams.

Wayne Doenges
15-04-2015, 14:15
WE GOT 254 AND 1501 :D

microbuns
15-04-2015, 14:20
This looks like it will be the strongest division this year, with 67, 225, 254, 1519, 1730, 2085, 4488, 5254, and 5406 all looking like they could captain a high alliance on another division. Very, very exciting.

cgmv123
15-04-2015, 14:23
There's no other way to put it: Carson Division is stacked.

Arpan
15-04-2015, 14:24
There's no other way to put it: Carson Division is stacked.

:yikes: :ahh: :]

Michael 4499
15-04-2015, 14:25
Team 4499 is excited to be in Carson with all of the amazing teams.

Louis_
15-04-2015, 14:34
Not to mention you guys have 1519... This division is honestly just unfair.

Bryce2471
15-04-2015, 15:00
We're super excited to play with all these amazing teams! The field will definitely be a very exciting place!
#StackCity

Kevin Leonard
15-04-2015, 15:02
This is gonna be awesome.

Maximillian
15-04-2015, 15:06
5254 is very excited to be able to play with so many amazing teams! We are also glad to see our local friends 20 and 1511 in the same division.

NWChen
15-04-2015, 15:17
2601 is excited to be with 67, 254, 4488, etc. in Carson during our first ever year at Worlds. Looking forward to a great competition.

Vespasian
15-04-2015, 15:18
There's no other way to put it: Carson Division is stacked.

I'm liking the pun usage.

I can't wait to see all of these amazing teams in action, and I'm sure working with everyone in this division will be a great experience! Good luck to everyone!

AWoL
15-04-2015, 15:40
Well this is going to be interesting... :yikes:

Thad House
15-04-2015, 15:45
This is gonna be one Shocking division, that's for sure. The Carson curse could also be Poofed before it even begins.

BBray_T1296
15-04-2015, 15:49
This is gonna be one Shocking division

Nope, that's Tesla.

You could say the division is Deep.

GuyM142
15-04-2015, 16:35
Team 3339 is very excited and looking forward to play with all of you guys!
See you in St. Louis :)

Jay O'Donnell
15-04-2015, 16:48
1058 is very excited to be playing on Carson! See you all in a week!

Amit3339
15-04-2015, 16:59
Is there going to be posted a match schedule including the matches for Carson field like they did last year?

samfruth
15-04-2015, 17:40
1710 is pumped! Maybe we will be able to work with 1730 this time instead of against :)

Bryce2471
15-04-2015, 18:20
I look forward to seeing what can burglars teams bring. When glancing though the team list, there doesn't seem to be a ton of talent in that department going in.

rhinobot
15-04-2015, 18:22
Rookie team 5406 is super excited to be competing with all the great teams in Carson division! Best of luck to everyone!:D

AdamHeard
15-04-2015, 18:34
Everyone please post pics of Carson teams.

Jean Tenca
15-04-2015, 19:05
Everyone please post pics of Carson teams.
Yes please. We're digging through photos for something to throw on TBA. It's tempting to create a Flickr space for everyone to put a picture of each robot.

AdamHeard
15-04-2015, 19:08
Yes please. We're digging through photos for something to throw on TBA. It's tempting to create a Flickr space for everyone to put a picture of each robot.

I've handled pic collection in the past (don't have time this year), you don't want to leave it public and open.

Instead have the gallery view only, and people can email pics in.

You saw what trolls did to the division prescouting doc after all.

Jean Tenca
15-04-2015, 19:16
I've handled pic collection in the past (don't have time this year), you don't want to leave it public and open.

Instead have the gallery view only, and people can email pics in.

You saw what trolls did to the division prescouting doc after all.
Good point. I was impressed but disappointing as I watched Mario and Nyan cat take over the sheets. Does anyone want to volunteer to manage this photo collection?

King Boopington
15-04-2015, 20:07
Wow this is very interesting!! Definitely one of the two most stacked divisions this year. Looking forward to it!

Michael Blake
15-04-2015, 20:13
Everyone please post pics of Carson teams.

3481 Bronc Bots

https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/21310_10203990355736104_3455975686272068990_n.jpg? oh=5819df5a093e129b8579280b4e0fae27&oe=55BAF6D0

https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11127203_10203990147890908_4472293625994920008_n.j pg?oh=f911efe8fe4b4e79af5573a7e30b34b1&oe=55A91766&hc_location=ufi

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11133795_10203990159371195_5016154594720367720_n.j pg?oh=cb4c6817a1a7054e866d07eea8efb26a&oe=55A51641&__gda__=1438317700_18cfda2538687eae47414f881f65853 3

Jaywalker1711
15-04-2015, 21:18
I look forward to seeing what can burglars teams bring. When glancing though the team list, there doesn't seem to be a ton of talent in that department going in.

You just wait....

Jay O'Donnell
15-04-2015, 21:37
Important question: are any teams on Carson planning on recording all of the matches?

Kevin Leonard
15-04-2015, 21:42
Important question: are any teams on Carson planning on recording all of the matches?

20 will for scouting purposes, but I'm unsure whether we will post them (or whether they'll stay posted for that matter.)

75vs1885
15-04-2015, 21:58
aside from having so many great teams, it's even better seeing that there are some many great teams who are older and younger, 254 and 4488 being the most notable in my perspective. 254...well everyone knows them and 4488 has been doing SOOOO well recently, last years robot and this years robot are top notch.
Best of luck and don't forget to stop by and ask about our team!!!!
(I'll be in the pit a decent amount of the time, if anyone want to say hi :) ...I can always use another robotics friend)

Kingland093
15-04-2015, 22:12
4215 is excited to be in St Louis for the first time and we can't wait to play with all these amazing teams
Best of luck to everyone!

ThunderousPrime
15-04-2015, 22:29
Important question: are any teams on Carson planning on recording all of the matches?

1511 will be recording the matches as well; I'll do everything I can to get them uploaded ASAP. :D

Cash4587
16-04-2015, 00:20
Interesting how our team keeps getting missed as somebody to look out for.. :rolleyes:

lol, see y'all at champs we are looking forward to playing with all of y'all! :D

Clayton Summerall
16-04-2015, 01:19
Interesting how our team keeps getting missed as somebody to look out for.. :rolleyes:

lol, see y'all at champs we are looking forward to playing with all of y'all! :D

Cooper just accept it........ :mad: :mad: :mad:

Cash4587
16-04-2015, 01:28
Cooper just accept it........ :mad: :mad: :mad:

But..... :(

Jean Tenca
16-04-2015, 01:39
Interesting how our team keeps getting missed as somebody to look out for.. :rolleyes:

lol, see y'all at champs we are looking forward to playing with all of y'all! :D
Trust me, you guys will be on everyone's radars. I've been watching a lot of your matches. Love your design and it's awesome seeing you guys put up 3 full stacks! I look forward to taking a close look at your robot(s) next week :)

Eric Scheuing
16-04-2015, 09:14
999 checking in. Very excited for some matches with you all!

Here are some pictures. Best I could do on short notice
http://i.imgur.com/Qpm4JZ0.png
http://i.imgur.com/t6Bbjqx.png

Wayne Doenges
16-04-2015, 09:21
Here's FRC Team 1501 T.H.R.U.S.T. robot
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/41906

Jaywalker1711
16-04-2015, 09:36
Who in our division has canburglars?

Here's my list so far:

16
67
1711

(I'm sorry that my list is so short, I don't know many of you guys. Yet!:D )

Maximillian
16-04-2015, 09:52
Who in our division has canburglars?

Here's my list so far:

16
67
1711

(I'm sorry that my list is so short, I don't know many of you guys. Yet!:D )

I have added some more that I remember off the top of my head.

16
67
225
254
1511
1711
3339
4488 (1x)

MagiChau
16-04-2015, 10:09
I have added some more that I remember off the top of my head.

16
67
225
254
1511
1711
3339
4488 (1x)
85 (1x) they used it at MSC

16
67
85 (1x)
225
254
1511
1711
3339
4488 (1x)

richtop
16-04-2015, 10:23
5053 Laker Robotics is blown away by the quality of the robots in Carson.

We have been lucky to have been mentored by Killer Bees 33 and learn from Rush 27, who are in our neighborhood, but when I saw that HOT 67 was ranked 8th in the division I was both scared and thrilled.

We look forward to playing with all of you in St. Louis.
http://c7e96921-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/ollroboticsteam/home/frc/Crowned6stackJustStacked.png
If you want to know more about our team please see:
the spot on Robozone about us, http://voice.adobe.com/v/SpXmE5TFSZJ
or our video about our first year, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vNGkcI6runI#t=1080.

Kevin Leonard
16-04-2015, 10:39
85 (1x) they used it at MSC

16
67
85 (1x)
225
254
1511
1711
3339
4488 (1x)

And these are only the ones we've seen so far! I think every alliance could have a can grabber if they scout well. The question is: Who is the fastest?

Jay O'Donnell
16-04-2015, 10:50
85 (1x) they used it at MSC

16
67
85 (1x)
225
254
1511
1711
3339
4488 (1x)

558 and 5122 both had them at NE Champs. 1058 is rebuilding ours.

Nathan Streeter
16-04-2015, 11:13
85 (1x) they used it at MSC

16
67
85 (1x)
225
254
558
973
1511
1519
1711
3339
4488 (1x)
5122

1519 also has a 2-can grab. It was well-practiced at the practice fields at NE DCMP, but it only saw use in one official match (see Q38 at DCMP, in which it worked perfectly)... a side-effect of having a dependable 3 tote auto is that we typically wanted to lock in the 20 points! We are currently speeding up our canburglars; for DCMP 'reliability!' was our mantra, now we're complimenting that with speed.

558 and 5122 both have quick ~1s 2-RC burglars that they used throughout NE DCMP. Both have two of the better canburglars at DCMP, but expect them to be speeding them up some!

nuclearnerd
16-04-2015, 11:18
Me, filling out our pre-scouting table earlier:

4+ stacks
3 stacks
3 stacks
3 stacks
3 stacks
2.5 stacks
2.5 stacks
2.5 stacks
... (list continues impressively)

Yikes. Tough crowd to stand out in!

philso
16-04-2015, 12:48
Interesting how our team keeps getting missed as somebody to look out for.. :rolleyes:

You were not missed at Bayou :)

We will be cheering for you from the Tesla Field.

Gweiss96
16-04-2015, 12:50
I feel like Carson shouldn't have a field named after her. For example, Copernicus seems much more impactful than Carson.

Carson - alerted world about the impact of fertilizers/pesticides on environment
Copernicus - proved planets and planetary objects orbit around the Sun, not Earth

and most people have never heard of Carson. Maybe only known scientists should have fields named after them like Stephen Hawking, Ada Lovelace, Thomas Edison, or Dmitri Mendeleev. Anyone have any opinions?

Jaywalker1711
16-04-2015, 13:02
I feel like Carson shouldn't have a field named after her. For example, Copernicus seems much more impactful than Carson.

Carson - alerted world about the impact of fertilizers/pesticides on environment
Copernicus - proved planets and planetary objects orbit around the Sun, not Earth

and most people have never heard of Carson. Maybe only known scientists should have fields named after them like Stephen Hawking, Ada Lovelace, Thomas Edison, or Dmitri Mendeleev. Anyone have any opinions?

So what if people haven't heard of her? Does that make her work any less influential and impactful?
She did more than alert the world about pesticides and the environment; she inspired the green revolution.
Read her book.


On a similar note......we need a cheer.....

Boydjt
16-04-2015, 13:05
Team 2471 has a two can grabber as well!

Kevin Leonard
16-04-2015, 13:06
So what if people haven't heard of her? Does that make her work any less influential and impactful?
She did more than alert the world about pesticides and the environment; she inspired the green revolution.
Read her book.


On a similar note......we need a cheer.....

RA-CHEL CAR-SON! *clapclapclapclapclap*

Gweiss96
16-04-2015, 13:07
So what if people haven't heard of her? Does that make her work any less influential and impactful?
She did more than alert the world about pesticides and the environment; she inspired the green revolution.
Read her book.


On a similar note......we need a cheer.....

Yes it does make her less impactful. Alerting the world about pesticides is far less impactful than what Einstein did. That is why the finals field is not named after her. And because the scientists I listed are more impactful than she, one of them should be named a field over her.

dcarr
16-04-2015, 13:11
Yes it does make her less impactful. Alerting the world about pesticides is far less impactful than what Einstein did. That is why the finals field is not named after her. And because the scientists I listed are more impactful than she, one of them should be named a field over her.

The good news...with two Championships, there will be potentially be more field naming opportunities.
I appreciate what FIRST is trying to do by including a diverse set of changemakers in their naming schemes. Objectively measuring the magnitude of one's impact is not an exact science.

Bryce2471
16-04-2015, 13:14
16
67
85 (1x)
225
254
558
973
1511
1519
1711
2471
3339
4488 (1x)
5122

2471 is on the list as well, and we'll have new and improved burglars for champs.

nuclearnerd
16-04-2015, 14:09
I feel like Carson shouldn't have a field named after her....
Carson - alerted world about the impact of fertilizers/pesticides on environment


I'm going to have to disagree strongly with you there. As Jaywalker said, Rachel Carson changed the world, especially for scientists and engineers. Before Silent Spring, few people gave any thought to the side effects and long-term impacts of the products they produced and consumed. The future was bright, and humans could do no wrong that they couldn't fix later :)

Carson's careful research, and effective publicity woke us all up to the fact that our environment commons did not have a limitless capacity to absorb our crap. The book created a movement that led to the first really strong environmental protection laws, but more importantly changed the way everyone thinks of their place in nature. There are tens of thousands of environmental scientists working in fields of study that didn't exist before the 70s. Engineers today have to consider a much broader context when introducing new products, and I think we're a better profession because of that.

Gweiss96
16-04-2015, 14:16
I'm going to have to disagree strongly with you there. As Jaywalker said, Rachel Carson changed the world, especially for scientists and engineers. Before Silent Spring, few people gave any thought to the side effects and long-term impacts of the products they produced and consumed. The future was bright, and humans could do no wrong that they couldn't fix later :)

Carson's careful research, and effective publicity woke us all up to the fact that our environment commons did not have a limitless capacity to absorb our crap. The book created a movement that led to the first really strong environmental protection laws, but more importantly changed the way everyone thinks of their place in nature. There are tens of thousands of environmental scientists working in fields of study that didn't exist before the 70s. Engineers today have to consider a much broader context when introducing new products, and I think we're a better profession because of that.

Never said she didn't do anything or didn't have an impact. I said there are others who had greater impacts. And if you want to talk about things before the scientists, before Copernicus everyone believed Earth was the center of the universe. Before Ada, there was no programming. Before Edison, there were no lightbulbs.

My point was I think the fields should be named after people who are known. No doubt there are a myriad of scientists who impacted the world, but if no one knows of them, they shouldn't have fields named after them. The name of the field should make one think "Hey, I know of that person. They did this..." Not, "Never heard of them." Also, Nye Field would be cool.

Kevin Leonard
16-04-2015, 14:23
Predictions!

254-973-1241-85 W
1519-4488-236-1629 SF
225-1296-3339-999 SF
1730-16-203-3478 QF
67-5254-246-3604 F
1325-4587-2471-1058 QF
399-2085-1501-3547 QF
60-5406-1711-5122 QF

Most of this is totally unlikely- but hey, if you don't like my predictions, go out there and prove them wrong!

EDIT: Thanks for pointing that out, Nick.

Also add your predictions. I love this stuff.

ThunderousPrime
16-04-2015, 14:36
Predictions!

254-973-1241-5122 W
1519-4488-236-1629 SF
225-1296-3339-999 SF
1730-16-203-3478 QF
67-5254-246-3604 F
1325-2085-2471-1058 QF
399-5406-1501-3547 QF
60-1711-85-1511 QF

Most of this is totally unlikely- but hey, if you don't like my predictions, go out there and prove them wrong!

Also add your predictions. I love this stuff.

Forgot 4587.

Cash4587
16-04-2015, 15:04
Forgot 4587.

Lol..... :rolleyes:

ELIADETACH
16-04-2015, 16:13
3339 is very excited to be able to play with so many amazing teams :D
SEE YOU !!

Sean4488
17-04-2015, 18:14
This is going to be such a competitive division, I can't wait to get to work with these teams and some of our friends from PNW! #StackCity

marj1346
17-04-2015, 19:50
Team 60 is excited to make some PHAT $TACK$ with everyone!:D ;) This is definitely going to be the most exciting and competitive field! Good luck to everyone in advance!

Maximillian
17-04-2015, 21:33
The Preliminary Match Schedules have been posted.

Practice (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2015/2015_FRC_CMP_CarsonPractice_prelim.pdf)

Qualification (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2015/2015_FRC_CMP_CarsonQual_prelim.pdf)

Mr. B
17-04-2015, 21:37
FIRST Robotics Team 5122 the RobOTies would like to share some photos of our robot:
https://www.facebook.com/frc5122/posts/647727005359627

By removing 3 parts we can be 10.5 LB underweight so cheesecake is an option!

Floodie Wowerz
17-04-2015, 23:36
FIRST Robotics Team 5122 the RobOTies would like to share some photos of our robot:
https://www.facebook.com/frc5122/posts/647727005359627

By removing 3 parts we can be 10.5 LB underweight so cheesecake is an option!
Wow!

nuclearnerd
18-04-2015, 23:58
I've taken a stab at calculating everyone's "Strength of Schedule" (SOS) in Carson using the preliminary schedule. You can find the results here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fLf1zDl0CUUVRnrSlg28hNz6rJu_tgc91qMKkc78iiU/edit?usp=sharing

This was a little different than what I did last year (which was use OPR to predict a "win margin" for each team at each match and then average the predicted win margin). This year, I thought the best way to show SOS was, for each team, calculate the average number of *points* all of their alliance partners will bring to their matches (where max OPR is a stand in for points in this method). A team's own OPR is ignored, as are the OPRs of the opposing alliance. This ignores the resource constraints that will come into play during the high scoring matches (the limited number of chutes and cans), and any unique pairings that might help or hurt a team's efficiency, but I think it's a good first effort. The data could be useful for planning strategy, and might also influence scouting. Feel free to suggest modifications to my method!

And I'm sorry for team 1629 :(

Adam Freeman
19-04-2015, 09:57
I've taken a stab at calculating everyone's "Strength of Schedule" (SOS) in Carson using the preliminary schedule.

Yuck! SOS 74 out of 76....lets go partners, we gotta do better than that! Gonna have to come up with some creative strategies to maximize our skills together.

Planning has started already. Can't wait unil Wedbesday.

styxracer97
19-04-2015, 13:15
I've taken a stab at calculating everyone's "Strength of Schedule" (SOS) in Carson using the preliminary schedule. You can find the results here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fLf1zDl0CUUVRnrSlg28hNz6rJu_tgc91qMKkc78iiU/edit?usp=sharing

This was a little different than what I did last year (which was use OPR to predict a "win margin" for each team at each match and then average the predicted win margin). This year, I thought the best way to show SOS was, for each team, calculate the average number of *points* all of their alliance partners will bring to their matches (where max OPR is a stand in for points in this method). A team's own OPR is ignored, as are the OPRs of the opposing alliance. This ignores the resource constraints that will come into play during the high scoring matches (the limited number of chutes and cans), and any unique pairings that might help or hurt a team's efficiency, but I think it's a good first effort. The data could be useful for planning strategy, and might also influence scouting. Feel free to suggest modifications to my method!

And I'm sorry for team 1629 :(
25th. We can work with that.

Jaywalker1711
19-04-2015, 13:29
I've taken a stab at calculating everyone's "Strength of Schedule" (SOS) in Carson using the preliminary schedule. You can find the results here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fLf1zDl0CUUVRnrSlg28hNz6rJu_tgc91qMKkc78iiU/edit?usp=sharing



Looks like we got lucky...

Dylan Danzeiser
19-04-2015, 13:57
Let's remember these teams with super high negative rank differences (like 1629) when picking...
(not at all motivated by the fact that my team has the third most negative rank difference :D)

Jaywalker1711
19-04-2015, 14:08
Let's remember these teams with super high negative rank differences (like 1629) when picking...
(not at all motivated by the fact that my team has the third most negative rank difference :D)

Don't worry, I'm sure that the best teams will sort through the purple haze :yikes:

Vale
19-04-2015, 15:23
Let's remember these teams with super high negative rank differences (like 1629) when picking...
(not at all motivated by the fact that my team has the third most negative rank difference :D)

Don't worry, I'm sure that the best teams will sort through the purple haze :yikes:

Yeah, I mean, most of us should be scouting teams. And also, I'm definitely gonna be rooting for you to pull through because you are awesome for making it this far. I believe in you guys.

1629GaCo
19-04-2015, 15:51
1629 GaCo, is looking forward to the challenge. We have the 20 point auto, great at coopertition, and can make some stacks! We can/will be valuable for an alliance in elims, the 20 point auto can make or break things!!! We will just be out there trying to be as consistent as we can be! Keep us in mind!

Ken Streeter
19-04-2015, 16:12
Yuck! SOS 74 out of 76...
Ouch! We thought our 61 of 76 was going to be an uphill climb -- you're in an even tougher spot!

Then, looking at the average "SOS" for 1629 -- that's quite a hole, makes me wonder if it can even be correct, being over 20 points below 75th place -- but, assuming it is correct, it's cool to hear that they seem unphased by the challenge!

nuclearnerd
19-04-2015, 18:40
I've updated the table to include a "SOS difference from the mean" column. This gives a signal for just how much boost or hindrance the schedule might mean for a team's QA:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fLf1zDl0CUUVRnrSlg28hNz6rJu_tgc91qMKkc78iiU/edit?usp=sheets_home

Don't take this table as gospel though - the max OPRs from previous events won't tell you exactly how much your alliance mates will help at Carson (as previously disclaimed).

nuclearnerd
19-04-2015, 19:39
... and I just read this post about the overly weighted influence of auto OPR on the predicted score. Oh goody, more work to do :)
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1473448&postcount=13

angelah
19-04-2015, 22:13
I have a favor for anyone in Carson...

We need a cross fitting (am-2380) for our pneumatics before inspection. We ordered one to our pit, but at MSC our order didn't get to our pit until Thursday night, so I'm not sure we will have it in time. If anyone could loan us one, we can give it back when ours arrives.

Thanks! :)

nuclearnerd
19-04-2015, 22:33
OK, that took longer than expected, but I updated the SOS spreadsheet to show the modified method of match prediction mentioned upthread. It certainly shifted the SOS rankings around a bit, but the team955 OPR database has a couple of differences than Ed Law's, so that could have been responsible too.

I've also added a column for *prediction caution* which flags any match predicted to exhaust the 3 staged cans. That's like half of them, so expect there to be many fewer QAs over 130 than predicted.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fLf1zDl0CUUVRnrSlg28hNz6rJu_tgc91qMKkc78iiU/edit#gid=1772597961

Finaly, Angelah - We don't have a cross fitting, but I think we can spare two (1/4" press-in) tee fittings. If that helps, feel free to visit us at our pit.

Edit - just thinking a bit more, there's some other weirdness about the predicted co-op scores in SOS V2. I've added some comments about that here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1473831&postcount=24

AWoL
19-04-2015, 23:15
16
67
85 (1x)
225 (2+2)
254
558
973
1511
1519
1711
2471
3339
4488 (1x)
5122

Minor update to the canburgaling list...our 4 can autonomous ran successfully at the Upper Darby MAR District Event where we started on one side and then drove over to the other side of the field and got the other set of two cans.

Amit3339
19-04-2015, 23:56
16
67
85 (1x)
225 (2+2)
254
558
973
1511
1519
1711
2471
3339
4488 (1x)
5122

Minor update to the canburgaling list...our 4 can autonomous ran successfully at the Upper Darby MAR District Event where we started on one side and then drove over to the other side of the field and got the other set of two cans.

Do you remember in which game/s did you guys used this autonomous? And if you do do you have any videos?

ThunderousPrime
20-04-2015, 07:02
Do you remember in which game/s did you guys used this autonomous? And if you do do you have any videos?

I dont have a link to tge video right now but I saw it yesterday and can verify that it happened at least in one match.

1629GaCo
20-04-2015, 09:35
Ouch! We thought our 61 of 76 was going to be an uphill climb -- you're in an even tougher spot!

Then, looking at the average "SOS" for 1629 -- that's quite a hole, makes me wonder if it can even be correct, being over 20 points below 75th place -- but, assuming it is correct, it's cool to hear that they seem unphased by the challenge!

Why would we be phased by the challenge? In 2015, we won a regional, and the Chairmans Award, what a great season already!!! Championships is just icing on the cake! We here at Team 1629 take everything in stride. To quote my 2 year old daughter "That's what you get and don't throw a fit". So when it comes to match schedules, that is the philosophy we use. The only thing we can control somewhat is the strategy that is played out in each match to maximize points!!! Good luck to all teams!

Jaywalker1711
20-04-2015, 09:52
Why would we be phased by the challenge? In 2015, we won a regional, and the Chairmans Award, what a great season already!!! Championships is just icing on the cake! We here at Team 1629 take everything in stride. To quote my 2 year old daughter "That's what you get and don't throw a fit". So when it comes to match schedules, that is the philosophy we use. The only thing we can control somewhat is the strategy that is played out in each match to maximize points!!! Good luck to all teams!

I love this guy! I hope that we are on an alliance with you!

carlgr32
20-04-2015, 10:55
Team 85 rocks my face off!!!!!!!! GO Carson division:] :] :] :] :]

Kevin Leonard
20-04-2015, 11:18
Team 85 rocks my face off!!!!!!!! GO Carson division:] :] :] :] :]

Sounds painful.

Ken Streeter
20-04-2015, 17:50
Why would we be phased by the challenge? In 2015, we won a regional, and the Chairmans Award, what a great season already!!! Championships is just icing on the cake!

What a fantastic attitude! Sorry we're not scheduled to have a match together.

When I saw that there was an "SOS v2" I thought, "Maybe 1629 won't still be 76 of 76 in the new list." However, it looks like you still are bottom of the list. :(

However, 1519 is moving down to keep you company. We went from "61 of 76" in "SOS v1" to "73 of 76" in the new list!

We're looking forward to working with our alliance partners to come up with some strategies that defy the predictions... :)

nuclearnerd
20-04-2015, 18:28
However, 1519 is moving down to keep you company. We went from "61 of 76" in "SOS v1" to "73 of 76" in the new list!

The V2 algorithm works against consistent co-op teams like 1519 (and 5406 fwiw). It assumes that your team will do co-op all of the time, but that the next highest co-op teams on your alliance will only score their average number of stacks (instead of making more stacks with the time they save not co-oping). Still - it does highlight the fact that you need to work on the strategy for those matches.

1629GaCo
20-04-2015, 20:04
1629 is packing up and will be on the way tomorrow!!!! Let's do thing St. Louis!! FRC is coming, can you feel it??? Stop by our pit and see our LEGOS, and ask how we provide inspiration all over the world with our LEGOS!! Safe travels to all, have a great time, and stay calm and FRC on!

AWoL
20-04-2015, 21:03
Do you remember in which game/s did you guys used this autonomous? And if you do do you have any videos?

Not the best view, but here it is: https://youtu.be/UTapc7CNcH4?t=2h58m46s

ThunderousPrime
21-04-2015, 21:17
1511's Championship re release video :)

https://youtu.be/B0R0skR1nFo

ThunderousPrime
21-04-2015, 21:26
Carson Robot Pics

imgur.com/a/OeFwI

Also if you know of any pics that arent on the album let me know and ill get them uploaded. I apologize if anyone is offended that their image was reuploaded. I found it the easiest way to compile the images.

TikiTech
21-04-2015, 22:26
By removing 3 parts we can be 10.5 LB underweight so cheesecake is an option!

Team 3880 is ready to go! We have a nice light ramp for use by anyone, I believe it was under 3lbs., I will reweight it tomorrow.

We started a can grabber at Silicon Valley Regional with the help of Devin from Citrus Circuits and will should have it ready in time for qualifiers.
Mahalo Devin you are the man!

If not we currently have 7lbs. free and if we remove one part it will free up an additional 15lbs. That's 22 lbs of cheese caking goodness!!

I will post a new picture tomorrow after we uncrate to reflect the improvements added during our two regionals!

Very excited to be part of this division and look forward to working with all of you.

Good Luck to Everyone!

ALOHA!

Hallry
22-04-2015, 23:14
It looks like Carson is the one division where the official qualification schedule is different than the preliminary schedule: http://frc-events.usfirst.org/2015/CARSON/qualifications

GuyM142
23-04-2015, 00:05
It looks like Carson is the one division where the official qualification schedule is different than the preliminary schedule: http://frc-events.usfirst.org/2015/CARSON/qualifications
So much luck.. :'(

PVCpirate
23-04-2015, 13:11
OK I'm confused, I just turned on the stream at noon St. Louis time and they're on match 9. The schedule says they should be through match 26. Anyone know what happened?

Hallry
23-04-2015, 13:12
OK I'm confused, I just turned on the stream at noon St. Louis time and they're on match 9. The schedule says they should be through match 26. Anyone know what happened?

Delays.

Bmarshall645
23-04-2015, 13:18
I'd be interested in what caused three hours of delays, that's pretty significant.

No delays. They just had to replay the match due to a field issue.

PVCpirate
23-04-2015, 13:20
No delays. They just had to replay the match due to a field issue.

Oh that makes more sense, thanks. So match 27 will be next, after lunch?

EDIT: Results were just updated through match 26.

Bmarshall645
23-04-2015, 13:22
Oh that makes more sense, thanks. So match 27 will be next, after lunch?

I am not to sure on what match they left off on. I have been switching between the streams.

microbuns
25-04-2015, 12:09
Wow... With that, the poofs are out. 2 bad matches, it's all it takes.

wesleyac
25-04-2015, 14:48
Wow... With that, the poofs are out. 2 bad matches, it's all it takes.

What happened to them?

Were there problems with their robot, or was it just bad luck?

cgmv123
25-04-2015, 14:50
What happened to them?

Were there problems with their robot, or was it just bad luck?
Two stacks collapsed in one of their matches, and the second one wasn't much better.

Clayton Summerall
25-04-2015, 14:51
Jersey Voltage had an amazing time at St.Louis!

We started the event after we were making 3 6 stacks with trash can and noodle in the LoneStar finals.
We played our first match in SL and every few feet the drive train would stop and trip a 40 amp. After countless mentors and inspectors we fixed the issue after our 6th match.
Going into the 7th match our robot was working well and we performed well. The next three matches went well and we were back to our performance at Lonestar.
The team was not picked on any team in alliance selection which was disappointing but understandable because we didn't do well for the first 6 matches. As a Whole the team had a great time and enjoyed learning so much this year!

We are ready for the Summer!!

Wayne Doenges
26-04-2015, 10:06
To all those people who had FRC Team 1501 out in the QF :P
We were out at the SF but we had a great time.
That's as high as we have ever been.
Thanks 16, 85 and 203. It was one helluva ride.

Mark McLeod
26-04-2015, 11:44
I'd like to thank team 4488 Shockwave, 67 The HOT team, and 225 TechFire for picking rookie team 5659 Team Supreme and allowing us along for the ride to Finals.

We've had the most amazing ride for a rookie year and a school of 40 students (in the entire school).
You all gave us an unbelievable finish to an incredible season.

mateoland
26-04-2015, 15:51
What happened to them?

Were there problems with their robot, or was it just bad luck?

First match two things happened:

1). 999 Auton period saw the 3rd team bot "run" away towards the driver station after the Step RC grab, wiping out the final tote to mess up 254's auto tote stack set attempt.

2) near the end of the match, greybot (973?) went for a final 6 tote + RC set, but the noodle they tried to push away with their bottom tote didn't move enough off the platform. The set was placed on the noodle which made the stack tip over into another 42 or stack.

The RC may have left the field for a penalty as well when the stack fell, but was not clear on that.

Next game two problems again:

1). They set up the 3rd bot on the platform with no step RC grab or movement. The last tote still got away from 254 to prevent the 20-point auto accomplishment. As teleop began, the third bot toppled as it was leaving the platform, blocking a bulk of the left landfill from the greybots. This limited their tote available potential.

2) When greybots finally found enough totes to make a stack at the end of the game, from what I could tell, they got stuck in 254s tether. While freeing themselves, they unfortunately set the stack down judt behind the fallen robot. It ended up butting up against the fallen bot (supported stack, no score).

A series of unfortunate events for sure.

Jared Russell
26-04-2015, 16:02
A couple corrections:

In the first match, 973 drive all the way into the driver station wall and cut off our auto due to a software glitch. We missed the 20 point tote stack as a result. Then at the end of the match, with 7 stacks standing, 973 inadvertently placed the 8th stack on a noodle, causing it to topple and take out another 42 point stack (as well as costing us a couple of penalties for ejecting game objects out of the field).

In the second match, 973 fixed the glitch but still drove a bit too far, and again hit us in auto. Soon after teleop began, 999 flipped over onto the landfill, thus cutting off 973's access to their second and third stacks. We knew we needed 215 points to advance, and at this point it was basically impossible. We dropped a can at the end as well, but by that point it didn't matter.

All in all an unfortunate series of events. Our alliance was capable of scoring every can and upright tote on the field, had canburglars on all four robots (subjectively, three of them were at least as fast as the fastest ones on Einstein), and had three robots with 20 point autonomous modes, but the vicious nature of the eliminations format along with some really mistimed bad luck ended our day way earlier than we had hoped.

Congratulations to the four alliances that were able to capitalize on our mistakes, and to the eventual division champions!

AdamHeard
26-04-2015, 16:19
First match two things happened:

1). 999 Auton period saw the 3rd team bot "run" away towards the driver station after the Step RC grab, wiping out the final tote to mess up 254's auto tote stack set attempt.

2) near the end of the match, greybot (973?) went for a final 6 tote + RC set, but the noodle they tried to push away with their bottom tote didn't move enough off the platform. The set was placed on the noodle which made the stack tip over into another 42 or stack.

The RC may have left the field for a penalty as well when the stack fell, but was not clear on that.

Next game two problems again:

1). They set up the 3rd bot on the platform with no step RC grab or movement. The last tote still got away from 254 to prevent the 20-point auto accomplishment. As teleop began, the third bot toppled as it was leaving the platform, blocking a bulk of the left landfill from the greybots. This limited their tote available potential.

2) When greybots finally found enough totes to make a stack at the end of the game, from what I could tell, they got stuck in 254s tether. While freeing themselves, they unfortunately set the stack down judt behind the fallen robot. It ended up butting up against the fallen bot (supported stack, no score).

A series of unfortunate events for sure.

These things happen...

Thad House
26-04-2015, 21:45
I'd like to thank team 4488 Shockwave, 67 The HOT team, and 225 TechFire for picking rookie team 5659 Team Supreme and allowing us along for the ride to Finals.

We've had the most amazing ride for a rookie year and a school of 40 students (in the entire school).
You all gave us an unbelievable finish to an incredible season.

It was incredible working with you guys too. Talking to some of your drive team you have an incredible team, and I hope to see you guys go far in the next few years.

mateoland
26-04-2015, 21:49
A couple corrections:

In the first match, 973 drive all the way into the driver station wall and cut off our auto due to a software glitch. We missed the 20 point tote stack as a result. Then at the end of the match, with 7 stacks standing, 973 inadvertently placed the 8th stack on a noodle, causing it to topple and take out another 42 point stack (as well as costing us a couple of penalties for ejecting game objects out of the field).

In the second match, 973 fixed the glitch but still drove a bit too far, and again hit us in auto. Soon after teleop began, 999 flipped over onto the landfill, thus cutting off 973's access to their second and third stacks. We knew we needed 215 points to advance, and at this point it was basically impossible. We dropped a can at the end as well, but by that point it didn't matter.

All in all an unfortunate series of events. Our alliance was capable of scoring every can and upright tote on the field, had canburglars on all four robots (subjectively, three of them were at least as fast as the fastest ones on Einstein), and had three robots with 20 point autonomous modes, but the vicious nature of the eliminations format along with some really mistimed bad luck ended our day way earlier than we had hoped.

Congratulations to the four alliances that were able to capitalize on our mistakes, and to the eventual division champions!

Thanks for the correction Jared.

wireties
27-04-2015, 05:41
Hope to see our new Carson-friends off-season and next year! Thanks for a good time in a great division! Congratulations to 3339, 1711, 1325 and 215 on the win!

We hoped to help our qualification alliance partners more. We "went for it", modified the robot to do 6 stacks - put up 5 stacks of 6 twice on the practice field. But on Carson it seemed like some little thing killed us in most every match. On to next year!

Adam Freeman
27-04-2015, 10:13
Public thank you to the teams and volunteers in the Carson division. We had a great experience participating and working with all our qualification partners. Volunteers were very friendly and helpful on and off the field (significant improvement over previous years).

Couple of specific shout outs:

4488 - Thank you for selecting us! Short of being on the #1 alliance, we were realistically hoping to be playing with you guys on Saturday. We did not have the greatest showing during our qualification matches. My drive team and I made a ton of mistakes trying to do too much. Luckily you guys believed in our ability to execute our with our can arms and only put up our two stacks.

You created a perfect alliance that developed synergy faster than I have ever experienced! Your entire team is extremely impressive! Very well organized and prepared for any possible situation. Your robot was so consistently great at executing your match responsibilities. You guys deserved to be on Einstein, I feel really bad that our machine failure was responsible for not getting you there. You guys are well on your way to "powerhouse" status and I'm sure have an Einstein appearance in the very near future.

225 - - Ahh...WOW! I didn't see very many matches this weekend, so I had no clue you guys were that good. Seeing how quickly you guys were clearing the landfill and creating stacks, we probably could have even maximized aour scores a little higher by letting you clear out in front of our scoring platform even more. Your container righting and delivery was amazing. You guys were a pleasure to work with!

5659 - Unfortunately, I did not get to interact with you guys at all. I appreciate the amount of work you were putting in to be retro-fitted with 4488's special device. I wish I would have gotten a better opportunity to meet and interact with you team.

254 - Seeing my friends, who I only see once a year, is what makes this entire Championship experience so special! Talking robots in the pits, watching matches field side, hanging out in the evenings is always better when you guys are there. Would have been incredible to get a chance to work with you guys. Hopefully it doesn't take another 12 years to get a chance to play together. You have the best robot in the world for this game. The level of work and detail you guys will do to to be the best is inspiring and terrifying at the same time. I have no idea how you guys do it. I hope we get to see you guys again someday.

973 - Similar to Poofs, seeing our Einstein partners and friends from last year was extremely fun for us. You guys deserved to be the #1 pick, your performance was incredible. Keep your heads help high, stuff happens so quickly in these 2min matches, that require split second decisions. It's very hard to always be perfect under that amount of stress and expectation year after year. You all have a great attitude and we are very happy to call you friends of the HOT team!

16 - Seeing Meridith, John, and Brandon this weekend, re-living our old Einstein experiences from '08, and having you in our corner for the Finals was awesome! I'm glad we could both get into the Semi's before we had to fight it out for cans. Working with and against you is always a blast. Similar to 254 and 973, you guys are on that list of special friends that we get to see once/year. It's good we are taking advantage of it before this opportunity gets taken away from us.

Thank you all!
-Adam

Williane
27-04-2015, 14:07
You created a perfect alliance that developed synergy faster than I have ever experienced! Your entire team is extremely impressive! Very well organized and prepared for any possible situation. Your robot was so consistently great at executing your match responsibilities. You guys deserved to be on Einstein, I feel really bad that our machine failure was responsible for not getting you there. You guys are well on your way to "powerhouse" status and I'm sure have an Einstein appearance in the very near future.

Adam, your team is amazing. To be able to play on opposite sides of the field last year made our competition special, imagine this time working side by side with Team 67! It was very exciting to see how each team in the alliance played its part well. Team 225, what a sweet team, in the pits and the arena, your robot timing bringing the cans and stacking looked like we have practiced a lot before. Our dear rookies 5659, great GP and teamwork allowing our team to install the system on your robot. Each robot and driver doing their best; it was impressive.

Let's look at this from the bright side, your team participation brought our alliance very close to getting to Einstein. One of the 4488 team rules is to never blame individuals or groups for mistakes or get hung up on errors, as long as everyone in the team is doing their best. Everything that happens, good or bad, is handled by the team, as a unit. We improve and learn from each experience.

It is the same here, our alliance was one single team with a big number "4488-67-225-5659" :) and it was perfect! I don't think anyone has any doubt we all did our best.

We know it is part of this competition that a robot may fail and mistakes may happen, that is what makes our hearts pound and our adrenaline rush, and makes the audience cheer and scream loud. I believe ours, and the first alliance, brought some excitement to Carson, don't you think?

We are honored to have played with each of our alliances members both in Carson division and at the PNW events. We are grateful for the many friends we made throughout the year and the moments we had.

Kevin Leonard
27-04-2015, 16:41
What a crazy and unexpected result to a phenomenal weekend.
First, I'd like to thank our alliance partners for being absolutely incredible.

1325 has the most simple design I wish I had thought of. 3 stacks/match consistently, even when there were seconds left to place their last set of 3 totes and a container, they almost always got it done. And the match they dropped the container on the last stack, our other amazing alliance partners were right there and ready to cap both small stacks of three. Incredible teamwork.

3339 was one of the most consistent teams in the division, and had an incredibly smart set of brains behind the glass and in the stands. Their spirit could be heard in the hallways outside the stands, and every member of their team was extremely gracious. They knew the shortcomings of their robot, and when things went wrong on the field, they knew exactly what to do. I talked quite a bit to some of their mentors and students and was impressed by how cool and knowledgeable every member of this team was. Congratulations on being the first Israeli team on Einstein!

1711 started working perfectly at exactly the right times. While in qualifications, their canburglars were less than consistent, in eliminations they beat some of the best and fastest teams in the world to the cans, and managed their role incredibly well. Our team knew when you were on the field, our alliance was better off. Also made the only upside-down stack on Einstein, and the only one I've seen all year.

20 was thrilled to be a part of this international alliance, and can't believe luck went in our favor as many times as it did. We're honored to be an Einstein team for the first time in our long history.
Thanks to 1325 and 3339 for believing in us enough to make that pick, and for taking everyone's input when it came to match strategy. We can sometimes be a bit much to handle, as we have some strong-willed strategists, but all of you acted in the most gracious manner imaginable throughout the whole run to Einstein.

To the finalists- Wow!
When your alliance formed, I was sure we couldn't make it to division finals, let alone win the division.

4488, one of our drivers may have had a crush on your robot. Such a consistent machine and an amazing team to face on the field.

67 is the team I bring up in examples of how to build robots intelligently. Your robot this year was fantastic, and your canburglars were scary fast. I was excited when I saw we had a qualification match with you in our revised schedule.

225 was the dream 2nd robot, and I don't know how they lasted that long. Consistent landfill stacking, blazing fast canburglars, and smart driving brought this team a MAR championship, and a division finals appearance. You always have a unique approach to the game, and this year is no different.

And wow did I want to see 5659 take the field and see the crazy can-stealing contraption they ended up with. Who knows what would have happened.
Your alliance was scary, and things could have easily gone the other way in finals and seen the SupremeShock HotFire alliance make its way to the big stage.

Now to the #1 seeded alliance,
254, 973, 999, 4499, I was both upset and excited to see your alliance falter. Upset because I knew your alliance was capable of a world championship, but excited because it meant everyone else in the division had a chance. Our team was super excited when we found out we had a practice match with both 254 and 973, and what I saw during that was scary, to say the least.

Lastly, I want to mention one of our team's newest BFF's, Team 5254, the Trumansburg Robot Raiders (or #5poofs, for some).
They're an awesome second year team with an incredible robot who I was disappointed to see lose as early as they did. 20 didn't actually expect to be picked on Saturday morning, so we decided to help 5254 picklist and strategize Friday night, as from the #10 seed they could have ended up an alliance captain very easily. We were thrilled when they ended up getting picked by 1519, and then managed to get the steal of 399 in the second round. When we unexpectedly got picked, their team cheered for us, and our teams have become closer than ever as a result. To anyone who doesn't know 5254, check them out, and get ready for them to do great things in 2016.

AWoL
27-04-2015, 17:56
Our alliance was capable of scoring every can and upright tote on the field

Not to be an annoying pedant...but step totes?

Jean Tenca
27-04-2015, 22:25
Not to be an annoying pedant...but step totes?
Step totes in elims! I was blown away that you guys grabbed them and scored them. You guys were incredible.

Ben Martin
28-04-2015, 09:21
Step totes in elims! I was blown away that you guys grabbed them and scored them. You guys were incredible.

You guys built a fantastic alliance. I don't think we've ever built alliance synergy that fast. It was a real pleasure working with you, 67 and 5659. You were the most rock-solid on the alliance, always worth half or greater of the scores we were pushing. Our showing wasn't great for many matches, so thank you for trusting that we play a strong support game in eliminations.

67, it was great playing with you guys! It was great having a little 'Einstein experience' around to help ground us as we pushed through quarters and semis.

Hope to play with both these powerhouses again soon!

5659, I didn't get much chance to interact with you guys, but thank you for your willingness to install 4488's mechanism. It would have been critical had we made it to the Einstein stage and into semis.

For the step totes--the left side of the landfill was boxed in with stacks, what were we supposed to do with 30 seconds? ;)

Congratulations to 1325, 3339, 20, and 1711--we thought we might have you even after we lost a can in the last match, but you guys pulled it out. Great job, and congratulations!

To the #1 alliance--it was unfortunate that things ended the way they did for you, after everyone clearly put hours and hours of effort and thought into building an extremely strong team. Regardless of how it ended, the best 2 robots in the division were on that alliance, and as such they will be serious inspiration for us as we work on off-season upgrades.

Deke
28-04-2015, 20:03
For all our qualification alliance partners, thank you! We had absolutely zero problems working out strategy to maximize the alliance score and that was a huge part of our ranking. It was a privilege to work with so many great teams.

To all those people who had FRC Team 1501 out in the QF :P
We were out at the SF but we had a great time.
That's as high as we have ever been.
Thanks 16, 85 and 203. It was one helluva ride.

Thank you to 16, 1501, and 203 for joining us in the playoffs. I never would have guessed we would have been so lucky to work with such amazing teams. All of you were class acts and were nothing short but amazing to work with. We were all blown away that 16, 1501, and 203 were left on the board.

16 - You really showed the veteran experience that we needed in the playoffs, I appreciated all the strategy discussions we had as we planned field maneuvers around each other on the field. Even when things didn't go to plan, you were able to re route and execute very quickly.

1501 - We knew you guys could go stack crazy, but you took it to another level by cranking out three stacks a few times. Your robot performed magnificently, and your team was a pleasure to work with. I am so very glad to have worked with you.

203 - With how your qualifying went, your robot deserved to be playing Saturday morning, but you handled it with class. I know we struggled whether our not to sit 85 out and let you guys stack because you were so good at it! It was also a struggle to let you guys put on a spare can grabber because we knew you had to take parts off such a great working robot. It wasn't the original plan to have your team work on that, we picked you because of your stacking ability, but your team never batted an eye and got to work on it. We really appreciate all you went through for the alliance.

Congrats to 1325, 3339, 20, and 1711! It was fun to watch all the amazing teams form their alliances. With such a deep Carson field, I know we struggled with what strategy to take in the playoffs, it was fun to see how other teams approached it.

GuyM142
30-04-2015, 06:11
Does someone have recodings of the carson playoff rounds?

Amit3339
30-04-2015, 14:10
So after landing in Israel just wanted to say thank you for all the teams competing with us in Carson. We had the pleasure to meet you all and learn so much from you.
A special thanks goes to 1325 who believed in us enough to invite us to be their alliance partners as their 1st pick. You guys had a simple but smart and amazing design that was able to function in such a consistent way. I had the opportunity to be on the field with you guys and learn how a winning team should be functioning. With any request we or our alliance partners had you were the first to be there and help out. Thanks!

Team 20 Were one of the most awesome teams I've ever met. They were a successful 2rd pick for our alliance and helped us out in the right moments, both on the field and off the field. They're were extremely gracious and helped us to spread our Israeli spirit with our flags with a big proud!

Team 1711 was an amazing 3rd pick to our alliance. They're mentors were very experienced and helped us with every problem we had. The drive team was amazing and kept his consistency with his job on the field. They fought till the last match over any RC and was a huge part in our victory.

A big Shout Out to the Finalist alliance! I've got the chance to play with some of you in qualification and can say that you guys are friendly, welcoming and gracious. Even in the finals you guys knew to keep calm and fought well until the last match.

Jean Tenca
30-04-2015, 15:29
Does someone have recodings of the carson playoff rounds?
You can find videos on this thread: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=137017

Was awesome watching those matches again!

Edit: Looks like those are all set to private now.
Team Driven (1730) has some matches on their channel: https://youtu.be/O_CbJli6iCo?list=PLK-1Uq8qaDljF2Gf1urTiUIbhiPux59Hr

MooreteP
30-04-2015, 18:40
A couple corrections:

In the first match, 973 drive all the way into the driver station wall and cut off our auto due to a software glitch. We missed the 20 point tote stack as a result. Then at the end of the match, with 7 stacks standing, 973 inadvertently placed the 8th stack on a noodle, causing it to topple and take out another 42 point stack (as well as costing us a couple of penalties for ejecting game objects out of the field).

In the second match, 973 fixed the glitch but still drove a bit too far, and again hit us in auto. Soon after teleop began, 999 flipped over onto the landfill, thus cutting off 973's access to their second and third stacks. We knew we needed 215 points to advance, and at this point it was basically impossible. We dropped a can at the end as well, but by that point it didn't matter.

All in all an unfortunate series of events. Our alliance was capable of scoring every can and upright tote on the field, had canburglars on all four robots (subjectively, three of them were at least as fast as the fastest ones on Einstein), and had three robots with 20 point autonomous modes, but the vicious nature of the eliminations format along with some really mistimed bad luck ended our day way earlier than we had hoped.

Congratulations to the four alliances that were able to capitalize on our mistakes, and to the eventual division champions!

Here is some field side video of the match that I posted in another thread:

Carson QF 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maEnW8d29ps)
I have a feeling that 973 being in the right driver station was also having their vision of the field blocked by the stacks of totes placed right in the front of them.
Did they know that the noodle was there? Did the countdown cause them to push their luck?

Carson QF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mUiEc-99Qc)
The most poignant part of this match was at the very end as time expired.
254's tether became entangled in 973's drivetrain at 2:00.
The tether snaps as the buzzer sounds.

In spite of the publicity this year, no tethered robots made it to the Einstein Finals.

AdamHeard
30-04-2015, 18:58
Here is some field side video of the match that I posted in another thread:

Carson QF 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maEnW8d29ps)
I have a feeling that 973 being in the right driver station was also having their vision of the field blocked by the stacks of totes placed right in the front of them.
Did they know that the noodle was there? Did the countdown cause them to push their luck?

Carson QF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mUiEc-99Qc)
The most poignant part of this match was at the very end as time expired.
254's tether became entangled in 973's drivetrain at 2:00.
The tether snaps as the buzzer sounds.

In spite of the publicity this year, no tethered robots made it to the Einstein Finals.

Kids and I knew it was there. They were hesitant to score for that reason, I thought we were clear enough and told them to go for it.

It wasn't a good call.

GuyM142
01-05-2015, 03:53
Kids and I knew it was there. They were hesitant to score for that reason, I thought we were clear enough and told them to go for it.

It wasn't a good call.

I can say for sure that your alliance had the best can burglar and the best robots and I was really hoping to have the chance to play on the same field with you.
Things like that can happen.. especially in the rush of the game.
Thank you for a wonderful season, you guys rock!

MooreteP
01-05-2015, 05:46
Kids and I knew it was there. They were hesitant to score for that reason, I thought we were clear enough and told them to go for it.

It wasn't a good call.

Recycle Rush, for all of the controversy about the nature of the game, has it's redeeming qualities. Those wang dang noodles (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w6IY0v-0pA) affected the outcome of many matches.
Human players = important

This particular match had all of the drama of this years Super Bowl with the blocked pass to the end zone at the end that determined who won the game. Just listen to the response from the audience when the stacks fell.
GDC = good job.

Tom Bottiglieri
01-05-2015, 06:08
This particular match had all of the drama of this years Super Bowl with the blocked pass to the end zone at the end that determined who won the game. Just listen to the response from the audience when the stacks fell.
GDC = good job.
A) It was an interception.
B) There were no pool noodles on the field for absolutely no reason.

MooreteP
01-05-2015, 06:15
A) It was an interception.

You are correct, my apologies to Mr. Butler.

B) There were no pool noodles on the field for absolutely no reason.

This has me confused. Double negative with hyperbole. Are you referring to the Super Bowl or Carson QF4?

Wayne Doenges
01-05-2015, 19:55
Several of the inspectors commented on the fact that one of the questions on the inspection form was, does your robot pose a possible entanglement hazard.
How did the tethered bots get by this?

wireties
01-05-2015, 22:01
Several of the inspectors commented on the fact that one of the questions on the inspection form was, does your robot pose a possible entanglement hazard.
How did the tethered bots get by this?

Ours had an active tether - more of an obstacle than the ramp tethers. We tell the inspectors that our robot and tether play alone in 1/8 of the field. And our robot had fenders to keep the tether from entangling. Inspectors at 3 regionals and champs didn't question us further.

We also had a ramp for alliance members to use. In our case that was a tether ran along the wall between two pieces (ramp and stacking cube) that did not move - again no problem.

GeeTwo
02-05-2015, 00:00
Thank you for a wonderful season, you guys rock!
Thanks to team Bumblebee for being such wonderful spirit - you're our role models as we work on improving our team spirit this year. Even if we hadn't gotten anything else from CMP (and oh, yes, we did), sitting next to you and rooting for you during selection and playoffs on Carson was worth the trip.

And you can bet that we kept rooting for you on Einstein from way up in 448!

Looking forward to hearing "Bee Bee Bum-ble-bee" at CMP again next year!