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24-06-2002, 03:31
Posted by Jay Lundy at 04/11/2001 7:14 PM EST
Student on team #254, The Cheesy Poofs, from Bellarmine College Preparatory and NASA Ames, Cypress Semiconductor, and Unity Care.
This is my first year in FIRST so I can't really compare the excitement of 2v2 from previous years with this year's game, but after reading the posts of hundreds of people I feel that 2v2 must really have been exciting and it did allow the whole defensive aspect of the game. However, I also can see how frustrating it must have been to see the robot that you and your team had worked on for hundreds of hours damaged beyond repair at the end of a match. With these in mind, I plan to propose a compromise.
My compromise is a 2v2 game with a similar field layout (balls, goals, etc.) as this year with a few changes:
1. 2 robots start on one end, 2 on the other
2. On each side of the bridge where the bar used to be, the troughs from the 2000 year are placed
3. Plexi glass sheets are placed beneath the troughs to prevent robots from crossing to the other side
4. The bridge is replaced with something similar to the puck in 1999 except it is about 3 feet tall, it is illegal to climb onto the puck in this version, and there is a midfield line across the puck
5. Each side starts with 2 big balls and 20 small balls. The balls on one side are all blue and the balls on the other side are all red to help in the scoring.
Here is how the scoring works:
1. Any small ball on the opposite side of the field from which it started = 1 point
2. Any large ball on the opposite side of the field from which it started = 10 points
3. Any small ball in a trough = 2 points for the team's whose ball it is (signified by its color)
4. Any large ball in a trough = 20 points for the team's whose ball it is (signified by its color)
5. Any small ball in a goal = 1 point for the team's whose ball it is (signified by its color)
6. Any large ball on top of a goal = 10 points for the team's whose ball it is (signified by its color)
7. If the goal that started on one team's side of the field ends up completely across the midfield line on the other side and is on the puck, then the score for that team is multiplied by two. The robot CAN be touching the goal at the end and it will still count for the multiplier
Wow, I think thats about it. Not exactly simple, but at least I know how Dean feels. Anyway, there are obviously several ways to score here, and several ways to defend:
DEFENSIVE STRATEGIES:
1. Knock balls out of trough
2. Throw/place balls back to opposite side
3. Push enemy goal off puck
4. Knock over enemy goals to spill out balls
Also this gets rid of most opportunities to inflict damage on the other robots. Your arm(s) could get broken, but at least your drive train is untouchable. Plus I can see the excitement of two teams facing off with 20 seconds left to see who could push their goal over the midfield line. I would really love to see a game like this, too bad I posted it because now it will never happen. Oh well. Maybe next year's game will be based on the same idea of 2v2 without much contact between robots.
Sorry if this turned out to but kind of long. I had the idea in my head I just didn't know how detailed I would get.
Jay Lundy
Student on team #254, The Cheesy Poofs, from Bellarmine College Preparatory and NASA Ames, Cypress Semiconductor, and Unity Care.
This is my first year in FIRST so I can't really compare the excitement of 2v2 from previous years with this year's game, but after reading the posts of hundreds of people I feel that 2v2 must really have been exciting and it did allow the whole defensive aspect of the game. However, I also can see how frustrating it must have been to see the robot that you and your team had worked on for hundreds of hours damaged beyond repair at the end of a match. With these in mind, I plan to propose a compromise.
My compromise is a 2v2 game with a similar field layout (balls, goals, etc.) as this year with a few changes:
1. 2 robots start on one end, 2 on the other
2. On each side of the bridge where the bar used to be, the troughs from the 2000 year are placed
3. Plexi glass sheets are placed beneath the troughs to prevent robots from crossing to the other side
4. The bridge is replaced with something similar to the puck in 1999 except it is about 3 feet tall, it is illegal to climb onto the puck in this version, and there is a midfield line across the puck
5. Each side starts with 2 big balls and 20 small balls. The balls on one side are all blue and the balls on the other side are all red to help in the scoring.
Here is how the scoring works:
1. Any small ball on the opposite side of the field from which it started = 1 point
2. Any large ball on the opposite side of the field from which it started = 10 points
3. Any small ball in a trough = 2 points for the team's whose ball it is (signified by its color)
4. Any large ball in a trough = 20 points for the team's whose ball it is (signified by its color)
5. Any small ball in a goal = 1 point for the team's whose ball it is (signified by its color)
6. Any large ball on top of a goal = 10 points for the team's whose ball it is (signified by its color)
7. If the goal that started on one team's side of the field ends up completely across the midfield line on the other side and is on the puck, then the score for that team is multiplied by two. The robot CAN be touching the goal at the end and it will still count for the multiplier
Wow, I think thats about it. Not exactly simple, but at least I know how Dean feels. Anyway, there are obviously several ways to score here, and several ways to defend:
DEFENSIVE STRATEGIES:
1. Knock balls out of trough
2. Throw/place balls back to opposite side
3. Push enemy goal off puck
4. Knock over enemy goals to spill out balls
Also this gets rid of most opportunities to inflict damage on the other robots. Your arm(s) could get broken, but at least your drive train is untouchable. Plus I can see the excitement of two teams facing off with 20 seconds left to see who could push their goal over the midfield line. I would really love to see a game like this, too bad I posted it because now it will never happen. Oh well. Maybe next year's game will be based on the same idea of 2v2 without much contact between robots.
Sorry if this turned out to but kind of long. I had the idea in my head I just didn't know how detailed I would get.
Jay Lundy