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first_newbie
14-12-2015, 22:01
What is the thing circled in red?
jkelleyrtp
14-12-2015, 22:03
Pancake pneumatic piston.
Used for shifting.
http://www.vexrobotics.com/vexpro/pneumatics/217-2778.html
Chief Hedgehog
14-12-2015, 22:03
What is the thing circled in red?
Pancake Cylinder.
Anupam Goli
14-12-2015, 22:03
That's a pancake Cylinder. It's used in 2+ speed gearboxes to shift gears on the fly.
Pancake pneumatic piston.
Used for shifting.
http://www.vexrobotics.com/vexpro/pneumatics/217-2778.html
Your link says Pancake Pneumatic Cylinder"
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"It's a cylinder, not a piston"
"It's a cylinder, not a piston"
The piston is the piece inside the cylinder which is pushed by the air and which in turn pushes and pulls the output shaft relative to the main cylinder body. P4s (pernickety persons' pet peeves) aside, the term piston is commonly used for the whole thing because it won't be confused with the shape of a pneumatic tank, compressor, motor, wheel, or shaft.
OBTW, if the one in the render above is a cylinder, we can also include any sort of extrusion as a cylinder by shape.
MrForbes
14-12-2015, 23:06
If you call it a pneumatic cylinder, it might remove some confusion
If you call it a pneumatic cylinder, it might remove some confusion
I've had team members come back with air tanks (more commonly aluminum than plastic). We keep the tanks and actuators in different bins.
MrForbes
15-12-2015, 01:08
Yup, that's why I said "might", rather than "will".
The piston is the piece inside the cylinder which is pushed by the air and which in turn pushes and pulls the output shaft relative to the main cylinder body. P4s (pernickety persons' pet peeves) aside, the term piston is commonly used for the whole thing because it won't be confused with the shape of a pneumatic tank, compressor, motor, wheel, or shaft.
OBTW, if the one in the render above is a cylinder, we can also include any sort of extrusion as a cylinder by shape.
I don't know a single person in industry who would call it a piston. As mentors it's up to us to teach proper terminology.
Daniel_LaFleur
15-12-2015, 07:28
I don't know a single person in industry who would call it a piston. As mentors it's up to us to teach proper terminology.
IndySam is correct. If we are to prepare these students for working in the industry, we should teach (use) proper terminology. Incorrect, or non-standard, terminology leads to confusion and mistakes.
It is a cylinder or pneumatic actuator.
It can be used as a piston when attached to a cam but it is not a piston.
protoserge
15-12-2015, 08:33
And here I am calling them pneumatic actuators...
Jimmy Nichols
15-12-2015, 08:52
I don't know a single person in industry who would call it a piston. As mentors it's up to us to teach proper terminology.
We have had some engineering mentors call them pistons and we correct them at the same time. These are also mentors who never work with these types of components in their day jobs.
MrForbes
15-12-2015, 09:50
When I went shopping on FIRST Choice for our team, I selected several pneumatic cylinders, but no pistons.
The pneumatic cylinders each contain a piston, though
And I always assumed it was a British thing. They are always screwing up the English language over there. :]
GreyingJay
15-12-2015, 11:47
And I always assumed it was a British thing. They are always screwing up the English language over there. :]
And misspelling things, too! ;)
Kidding, kidding... I'm Canadian. We misspell them the same way!
And misspelling things, too! ;)
Kidding, kidding... I'm Canadian. We misspell them the same way!
Using the "colour" white huh?
GreyingJay
15-12-2015, 12:32
Using the "colour" white eh?
FTFY ;)
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