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I dunno how accurate this info is! I am a counsler @ FIRST PLACE in Manchester NH, (hometown of the Segway) and one of the kids I had as a camper who's dad works for segway, said they were developing a Model that could "kinda climb stairs, its really cool! The two sets of wheels move like the Ibot's do, they kinda rotate".
If I am wrong, sorry. But this is what I heard, and its pretty close to the source.
-Matt :)
Ashley Weed
26-07-2002, 21:49
That would be a cool addition if anything, because if it couldn't climb stairs, maybe it would at least be able to drive on and off a street curb without causing any harm to its rider.
I kinda regret posting this, I dont want any news service to see it. They may go wild.
:rolleyes:
Joe Matt
28-07-2002, 17:07
Look familiar?
http://theitquestion.com/news/patent/21.gif
That was an origional patent picture. The Segway was always ment to climb stairs, they just unvailed a simpiler, cheeper model on December 5th, 2001.
Originally posted by MattK
I kinda regret posting this, I dont want any news service to see it. They may go wild.
:rolleyes: you can delete your original post hence deleting this thread
JosephM
Yeah I do remeber that, all I was saying is that they might bring it to production.
P.s. Do you know where to get all those old Pattent Sheets are?
hmm, if the segway was always meant to climb stairs, why did they cut that out of the current model? i would think that would be an important thing to many people, especially in the city. think about it, you want to buy a segway, but your apartment building has a few stairs in the front. you're not going to be able to ride up (heck, dean couldn't clear the lip on the playing field, you're not going to make it up a staircase), and you're not going to carry it up. a segway with three wheels that could climb stairs would make a huge amount of sense. the only problem i see is an increase in power needed, so either a bigger battery, or shorter run time per charge. but i think that problem is a minor thing when compared to all the benefits from a design like that.
I completely agree. I would sacrafise 2 houres of run time for a feature like that.
Joe Matt
29-07-2002, 19:31
As for the patenet sheets, I went to www.theitquestion.com . GO to additional reading then patents.
As for leaving it out of the current model, think, you have just announced a machine that costs $3000, much more than what some will pay, and you want to add a feature that could add atleast $1000 to the bottom line, that would be bad business.
The will release the origional verson and then the Segway 2. There are probably a few prototypes floating around, but think here. They might have had to releas the lower verson because the more expensive one that can climb stairs might not be ready. The eStand feature was just implimented for the Segways in the past few weeks. It wasn't available for any of the Demo models at WDW or for testing at GE.
eStand? i've never heard of that. care to explain?
I SAW ONE! I Saw a new SEGWAY Model! I was down by their headcourters and this guy was rididng one around with a big yellow EXPERIMENTAL Sicker on it!
is it like the patent picture, or different? also, do you have any ideas on the specs? be interesting to see how the two versions compare.
His idea to walk up stairs isn't new. It's even been in a movie.(guess which one)
I dont understand this whole movie thing!?
sorry i was a little vague on that:rolleyes:. Anyway the wheel design is called the tri-star. It was originally patented in the U.S. as military vehicles. Well the same design appears on a vehicle in the movie called damnation island. I need to go edit my last post quickly sorry:). Try searching for "tri-star" wheel patent on yahoo. I think there are pictures and informationa about it at hear (http://www.visi.com/~dc/tristar/) Btw is it just because of all the gyroscopes that the segway can balance only on two wheels like that in the picture?? It's even been attempted on junkyard wars. It's very effective.
Wow that lego thing is phat :cool:
Joe Matt
01-08-2002, 21:40
e-Stand is a feature that allows you to step off the Segway and it not fall over, while it is still turned on without a kickstand.
Also, I too have lost all respect for you, especialy with the prototype running around. Dean is a little paranoid when it comes to projects. I woudn't expect you to see one anytime soon. Unless he plans to announce this new model on the 1st birthday of the Segway....
Of course dean wouldent let anyone see anything that great about the segway. The new models I have seen have just been with experimental Software, and Some new type of "Saddle Bags".
There havent been any MAJOR design changes, although some of the older models (Beafore they were released) have different color sceams.
I dont know why people are all made @ me :(
P.s. The E-Stand Isnt avaible on all models, actualy only on the a few I models and all E Models. The problem is people where getting on them without dis-enaging the E-Stand. The P model doesnt have a E-stand, you just have to lean it against something.
P.s. (AGAIN) you have to remeber I work @ FIRST PLACE, thats right next door to SEGWAY and DEKA. They test drive stuff around there ALOT. MattM can vouch for me on that so can Ann.
Joe Matt
04-08-2002, 15:39
OK, the do ride around to test, but if you have ever heard of Dean allowing new versons to run around the streets of Manchester?
BTW, the hacking post did startle some featers, but otherwise, I recall back the other post, and I'll give you another chance.
Also, what's new in this code that you mentioned and sattle bags?
Aslo, give me an IM, it's JWM1314 on AIM. I want to know some Segway insiders.
I dunno, they guy said that it was new code. Probebly written for the ones with the new bags. They new bags are more like a basket that are on the front. But they are NOT the ones you can see on their websites. This one had a wire frame.
You can *edit* posts, MattK! It's much easier and quite a bit less annoying that posting 47 P.S.'s after your original message.
For what it's worth, by the way, the child of some guy who supposedly works for Segway isn't exactly rock solid information.
It's like how things go in the amusement park industry - the Dippin' Dots guy doesn't know anything about what sort of ride an amusement park will install next season. Ever.
dude dont put dippin dots down like that!
;) ;)
Joe Matt
04-08-2002, 19:56
Originally posted by Michael Krass
You can *edit* posts, MattK! It's much easier and quite a bit less annoying that posting 47 P.S.'s after your original message.
For what it's worth, by the way, the child of some guy who supposedly works for Segway isn't exactly rock solid information.
It's like how things go in the amusement park industry - the Dippin' Dots guy doesn't know anything about what sort of ride an amusement park will install next season. Ever.
So true, so true.
Less #1, NEVER TRUST A DISNEY CASTMEMEBER ABOUT RUMORS!
Thank You...
BTW, Cedar Point is getting a Intimen Hydrolics Launch coaster next season....
Originally posted by JosephM
BTW, Cedar Point is getting a Intimen Hydrolics Launch coaster next season....
It's an Intamin Rocket Coaster, and they don't fit on the site of bumper cars ;)
Joe Matt
06-08-2002, 12:48
Originally posted by Michael Krass
It's an Intamin Rocket Coaster, and they don't fit on the site of bumper cars ;)
Whatever, Excelerator at Knott's, that's it.
Plus, I got to go and see the construction spot at Cedar Point this summer, and if they push it over the cannal, they would have enough room.
Jeff Waegelin
06-08-2002, 13:55
I know they already have one Intamin coaster, called the Wicked Twister. It opened this May, and it's right on the beach behind the Ferris Wheel. I don't know if that's the one you're talking about or not.
Joe Matt
07-08-2002, 19:36
Originally posted by Jeff Waegelin
I know they already have one Intamin coaster, called the Wicked Twister. It opened this May, and it's right on the beach behind the Ferris Wheel. I don't know if that's the one you're talking about or not.
Nope, this one is across from the enterence from Magnum (sp?).
-Edit-
I just got this from Screamscape this moment...2003 - Rumor - (8/7/02) Screamscape has it here and now... and it seems that The Point will deliver a really BIG thrill next season. If the rumored stats are true, this sucker is expected to be the world’s fastest, tallest, continuous circuit coaster ever built. We’re talking about an Intamin Rocket Coaster that may shoot you out at 110mph up a vertical 420 foot tall mountain and straight down the other side. More info coming as we get it!
Lookout for a "metro Series"
Jeff Waegelin
07-08-2002, 20:39
Originally posted by JosephM
We’re talking about an Intamin Rocket Coaster that may shoot you out at 110mph up a vertical 420 foot tall mountain and straight down the other side.
Wow. That's nice. And I thought Millenium Force was fast...
Joe Matt
08-08-2002, 16:09
Originally posted by MattK
Lookout for a "metro Series"
You mean the pSeries, like the one Dean rides, or another, different, unannounce, un-showed one?
Ummm its a little diff. It was a beta model that they were going to use but then was replaced with the Pmodel. It has wheels that look like the I and E model, yet they are the size of the Pmodel.
Its not really a secret, if you ask someone from segway they will tell you about it. They are thinking of bringing it to the market too.
Originally posted by JosephM
Nope, this one is across from the enterence from Magnum (sp?).
-Edit-
I just got this from Screamscape this moment...2003 - Rumor - (8/7/02) Screamscape has it here and now... and it seems that The Point will deliver a really BIG thrill next season. If the rumored stats are true, this sucker is expected to be the world’s fastest, tallest, continuous circuit coaster ever built. We’re talking about an Intamin Rocket Coaster that may shoot you out at 110mph up a vertical 420 foot tall mountain and straight down the other side. More info coming as we get it!
Lance, over at Screamscape, is a really nice guy. He means well. He even gets good information every now and again.
However, a lot of garbage pops up on there, too.
Have you stopped to think if you could even climb a 420' tall element starting at 110 mph? I bet you can't.
Millenium Force hits 93. It drops 308'. An extra 17 mph isn't going to get you up an additional 112'.
I promise.
*edit*
I just did some quick math. Assuming that the train were traveling vertically, beginning at ground level, and had an instantaneous velocity of 110 mph, it would climb to a height of 404.7687'. This, of course, assumes there's no friction.
So, realistically, launching to 110 near horizontally, and without the aid of boosters on the vertical track, and taking into account rolling friction, losses in the bearings, and air resistance, said roller coaster is impossible to construct.
I'll send this to Lance.
*edit*
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