3 Rule Clafarication

[Christian3197]

Hello, I am part of team 3197 in Wisconsin. I have three scenarios that I need clarified, if someone would help me with them.\

SCENARIO 1:

Robot A crosses a defense in AUTO earning the Alliance 10 points. Can Robot A back up to the same defense and reach it from the opposite side and qualify as "reaching" the defense? Can it back up to a different defense and qualify as reaching?

SCENARIO 2:

Robot A successfully gets a boulder across a defense. Robot A drops the boulder into the courtyard. Can Robot A pick the dropped ball back up from the courtyard? Can other robots pick it up from the courtyard?

SCENARIO 3:

If Robot A misses a goal shot in AUTO, can Robot A pick that boulder back up from the courtyard and try for another shot once TELETOP commences?

Thank you for your time, and I hope you all have a great robotics year!

[nxtmonkeys]

Scenario 1 is legal if you drop the boulder on the other side(in the opponent's courtyard) and you can't do double damage to a defense in auto.

Scenario 2: other robots can pick up and use the ball, as long as they aren't holding one already.

scenario 3: yes, the robot can pick up the missed shot. Otherwise, if robots missed all shots, there'd be a bunch of boulders on the field that nobody can use...


Hope this helps!

[EricH]

Scenario 1 is legal if you drop the boulder on the other side(in the opponent's courtyard) and you can't do double damage to a defense in auto.
Actually, Scenario 1 is legal, period. You don't even need to drop the boulder you're carrying if you've got one.

[Christian3197]

Scenario 1 is legal if you drop the boulder on the other side(in the opponent's courtyard) and you can't do double damage to a defense in auto.

Scenario 2: other robots can pick up and use the ball, as long as they aren't holding one already.

scenario 3: yes, the robot can pick up the missed shot. Otherwise, if robots missed all shots, there'd be a bunch of boulders on the field that nobody can use...


Hope this helps!

Thanks for the help!

Could you elaborate a little bit more on Scenario 1? I don't think you explained it well enough for me to understand it.

[Christian3197]

Actually, Scenario 1 is legal, period. You don't even need to drop the boulder you're carrying if you've got one.

So, what you're saying is, reaching the opposite side of a defense (from the courtyard) gets the Alliance the two points in AUTO?

Thanks for the help!

[rich2202]

Team update 1 clarified that during autonomous, you get crossing or reaching points, but not both.

[Giantwalker]

Scenario 1: Section 3.13 of the rule book states "Once a ROBOT CROSSES a DEFENSE in AUTO, any additional DEFENSES that ROBOT REACHES or CROSSES during the AUTO period will not decrease DEFENSE STRENGTH nor contribute points to the ALLIANCE" I interpret this as saying once you cross a defense you cannot obtain auto points for reaching or crossing another defense.

Scenario 2: Yes others can pick up the ball as long as they are not holding another ball.

Scenario 3: Yes after the missed shot the ball is fair game for both alliances in teleop

Edit: looks like others beat me to the punch but looking at the specific section of the rules is always helpful :)

[Christian3197]

Scenario 1: Section 3.13 of the rule book states I interpret this as saying once you cross a defense you cannot obtain auto points for reaching or crossing another defense.

Scenario 2: Yes others can pick up the ball as long as they are not holding another ball.

Scenario 3: Yes after the missed shot the ball is fair game for both alliances in teleop

Edit: looks like others beat me to the punch but looking at the specific section of the rules is always helpful :)

Thank you! I wasn't looking in the right section. Thanks for the clarafication!

[EricH]

So, what you're saying is, reaching the opposite side of a defense (from the courtyard) gets the Alliance the two points in AUTO?

Thanks for the help!
It doesn't--see the posters in between. I was referring to the statement about needing to drop any boulders, which is not part of getting auto points.

[MARS_James]

SCENARIO 1:

Robot A crosses a defense in AUTO earning the Alliance 10 points. Can Robot A back up to the same defense and reach it from the opposite side and qualify as "reaching" the defense? Can it back up to a different defense and qualify as reaching?

No Manual page 31
Once a ROBOT CROSSES a DEFENSE in AUTO, any additional REACHES or CROSSES by
that ROBOT during the AUTO period will not decrease DEFENSE STRENGTH nor contribute points to the
ALLIANCE.


SCENARIO 2:

Robot A successfully gets a boulder across a defense. Robot A drops the boulder into the courtyard. Can Robot A pick the dropped ball back up from the courtyard? Can other robots pick it up from the courtyard?

Yes to both


SCENARIO 3:

If Robot A misses a goal shot in AUTO, can Robot A pick that boulder back up from the courtyard and try for another shot once TELETOP commences?


Yes so can Robot B, or C