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I CANT PROMISE ANYTHING BUT.......
Expect the field to have Bowling Balls, or some really hard/heavy object that needs to be dropped.
Maybe a Medicine Ball, although that might be too soft.
They where testing the field above us, and paint chips where falling from the ceiling!!!
FotoPlasma
03-08-2002, 15:57
Maybe it was just a poor quality paint job?
It could be, but the building was flooded in April and all the water settled on the FIRST floor, just happens to be FIRST PLACE. The whole build cept the 5th Floor is all FIRST. We have storage in the basement, then we have FIRST PLACE, then we have the place where they build the feild, then we have the FIRST offices. Then there is a bank.
To cut a long story short,
The whole place was re-painted in April. And you can really hear the sound. Its LOUD!
mmm, medicine balls....
/me thinks back to middle school gym
it would be pretty cool if they had medicine balls, because those are nice and big, and they weigh a lot. the only problem is buying one to test your bot with, cause FIRST sure as hell isn't going to supply one to each team :D
Aaron Lussier
03-08-2002, 17:57
Hmmm.. Bowling balls instead of soccer balls do you think they will still have ten behind the player stations to be thrown out??? :confused: Ouch that might hurt if you miss.
Kyle Fenton
03-08-2002, 18:09
Come on it can't be hard and it can't be heavy. Think about it, there is always a human player side to this game. Do you really think they are allow to freely throw heavy stuff. Even a better question, how can an average person throw a heavy object that far. Besides smashing up the field, could you think of the liability if a person was hit with a hard object. You can just reject this as common sense. They are mostly likely constructing something, that always makes a lot of noise.
Bill Gold
03-08-2002, 18:26
/me echoes Kyle's post
FotoPlasma
03-08-2002, 18:29
Originally posted by Kyle Fenton
They are mostly likely constructing something, that always makes a lot of noise.
That was the first thing that came into my mind.
By the way... I was joking about the paint...
Hmmm, Maybe they where building something. I'll ask if they were on monday, doubt I'll get a straight answer though
well, they could always just let you bowl the bowling ball out through a little hole at the bottom of the player station... :D
Rob Ribaudo
03-08-2002, 20:26
Think of all the damage that will be done to the robots is there are bowling balls going around the playing field. Some teams would end up spending alittle extra time in the pit area. ;)
sanddrag
03-08-2002, 20:52
The game would be a lot more boring because there would be no airborne projectiles such like the current soccer balls. If a human can't throw the bolwing ball how the heck will a robot do it? I think if there were bowling balls or medicine balls on the field, the game would just be a glorified version of shuffleboard.
that could actually be a possibility which scares me very much although it would be viewer friendly but scary none the less :eek: :eek: :eek: :(
WernerNYK
04-08-2002, 00:57
Just look at it this way.... if there WILL BE bowling balls.... why does that also have to be the human player aspect of the game as well? Bowling balls on the field, some other sort of object for the human players...
...who knows :D
I see it now. Elf bowling freestyle mechanical remix. that would make an interesting game for about ten minutes....
FotoPlasma
04-08-2002, 02:09
SKEE BALL!!!!
(please kill this thread)
Wait... ... ... when hasn't the game been a glorified version of shuffleboard???
Jon Lawton
04-08-2002, 03:56
This sounds like a good way to damage the floor under the carpet. I highly doubt FIRST would employ heavy objects being dropped from any height.
...the robots themselves do enough damage to the carpet and floor...
FotoPlasma
04-08-2002, 05:49
Originally posted by Jon Lawton
This sounds like a good way to damage the floor under the carpet. I highly doubt FIRST would employ heavy objects being dropped from any height.
...the robots themselves do enough damage to the carpet and floor...
It's people like you that spoil the fun of $@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#es like me...
>: (
Mike Martus
04-08-2002, 09:21
My inside source tells me that we will be stacking boxes with different colores on each end. Teams can steal the stack by balancing their color on top. There are three sizes of boxes all cubes, 12', 18' and 24".
Each team can build 2 robots but both must be within the starting size at the beginning of the match. They are not tethered. You really have a game of 2 vs 2 but you have the 2 robots.
Sounds like fun.
Well, of course, it's important to note that some teams (*cough*810*cough) have enough trouble finishing ONE robot :)
If they really expected us to build two, they'd have to dumb things down a lot, like, each robot that moves get 10 pts. :)
Jim Giacchi
04-08-2002, 18:14
Originally posted by Michael Krass
Well, of course, it's important to note that some teams (*cough*810*cough) have enough trouble finishing ONE robot :)
If they really expected us to build two, they'd have to dumb things down a lot, like, each robot that moves get 10 pts. :)
I second that. I'm lucky if my team can get more than three people working on the ONE robot. I'd go crazy.
I want to congratulate(translation beat down) those teams that manage to build two identical robots one to ship and one to practice with.
drr, i just realized something...
it's physically impossible to build two competition robots, that are not teathered, using the current control system scheme. from what i've heard, the controls are NOT changing, which means that there's no way that you're allowed two robots. of course, if the control system is changed to allow two RCs and two OIs, then 2 robots would be possible :D.
SlamminSammy
04-08-2002, 18:37
Maybe the human player would be converted to a driver. If it took us 36 hours of staight work to finish the 1st robot that would be 72 hours or 3 days. I hope I can operate power-tools after 3 days without sleep.:(
Mike Martus
04-08-2002, 20:21
What if you had two controlers and your robots were built to perform two different functions as opposed to an All-In ONe machine. And... your team drove both units as they deployed at the start of the match.
Hey what about establishing your parther team at the start of the season. You go to all the same regionals, all events. You planned the robot build together so they functioned as a very well coordinated team?
your partner for the entire season.
no, i'm just saying i thought that the controllers were going to be more or less exactly the same as last year, which means two robots per team is physically impossible. if they make changes to the controls, then two robots is possible.
Originally posted by Ian W.
drr, i just realized something...
it's physically impossible to build two competition robots, that are not teathered, using the current control system scheme. from what i've heard, the controls are NOT changing, which means that there's no way that you're allowed two robots. of course, if the control system is changed to allow two RCs and two OIs, then 2 robots would be possible :D.
Hmmm. Let me think. Standard control system we are used to + EduRobotics kit control system + autonomy = two OI's + two RCs + four robots per alliance = way cool competition.
But then, what do I know....
-dave
D.J. Fluck
05-08-2002, 00:04
Maybe the goal of the 2003 game is to knock over some tower with balls and position them somewhere? Instead of driving over to the other side of the field and picking up balls you first have to get them down from a higher elevation...just a thought
All I wanna see is another entertaining competition that can have basic functions performed by a brick with wheels again.
Originally posted by dlavery
Hmmm. Let me think. Standard control system we are used to + EduRobotics kit control system + autonomy = two OI's + two RCs + four robots per alliance = way cool competition.
But then, what do I know....
-dave
i thought that the EduRobotics control system was not to be used for competition robots because it didn't have as many outputs as the competition one, or something like that... :/
Jeff Waegelin
05-08-2002, 11:16
It doesn't, but there would be nothing wrong with using it if the rules were to allow you to. You just couldn't make your second bot as complex.
E. The Kidd
05-08-2002, 13:09
Originally posted by dlavery
Hmmm. Let me think. Standard control system we are used to + EduRobotics kit control system + autonomy = two OI's + two RCs + four robots per alliance = way cool competition.
But then, what do I know....
-dave
i think u know more then your letting on.
besides i don't rememebr reading anything like 2 robots per team in that 2003 design thread
Originally posted by Ian W.
i thought that the EduRobotics control system was not to be used for competition robots because it didn't have as many outputs as the competition one, or something like that... :/
I think that the actual statement was to the effect that the EduRobotics control system would not REPLACE the Isaac 32 control system we have been using. I don't recall anything about "in addition to..."
-dave
p.s. anyone remember that one of the most effective and far-reaching Directorates of the old KGB in the former Soviet Union was fully dedicated to producing just one thing: dis-information. You know, release information that sounded real, seemed real, but wasn't; the sole purpose was to flood the channels with LOTS of information, all of it plausible, so that you could never really be sure what was real and what wasn't. But none of us would think that ANYONE associated with FIRST would EVER resort to those sorts of tricks... :rolleyes:
Nate Smith
06-08-2002, 02:32
FIRST explicitly said at the MI forum that the EduRobot controller would not be allowed on any competition robot(read: anything that's on the field at a regional or championship)...
Mike Schroeder
06-08-2002, 23:43
Hey what about establishing your parther team at the start of the season. You go to all the same regionals, all events. You planned the robot build together so they functioned as a very well coordinated team? - Mike Martus
I dont think That is possible look at it this way even with the internet, team 25 in north brunswick nj and team 47 pontiac Michigan make sharing ideas difficult and going to regionals even more so.
A team that attends many regionals ie. CD could get paired with team that barely can afford to goto one regional and then nationals would be out of the questions with odd even pairs
Hailfire
05-10-2002, 20:55
Man, I'm in the new Stoney Creek Robotics Team and it's going to be this challenging???!!!
Hailfire
05-10-2002, 21:32
Where do you guys get all of this information from anyway?
Different sources, usually rumors, mostly from people in FIRST that you might meet just by having a team shirt on or stuff like that.
Hailfire
06-10-2002, 10:05
Oh.
Some some people just make up. Like that Dave character, allways acting like he knows what he is talking about, then goes and talks about something he isnt.
VROOM!
Wetzel
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/me exhibits shifty eyes
-Jim
All of you people seem to be taking these rumors as true, not what they are, which is in fact rumors. It is fun to think about what the game could be, bust most ideas are generally fantasies. For example, I don't think FIRST will ever require one team to build two robots. It is far too demanding time wise and money wise. Also bowling balls would never be used for the fact that they are very heavy and potentially dangerous. Water is the most sabsurd idea I have ever heard, seeing as water and electronics NEVER go well together. Anyways. maybe its just me, but it seems like too many people are giving too much value to these rumors.
Thats my $.02.
The rumors forum is compiled from loads of absurd rumors that we all build upon, just to do it. No reason, just that we like to post and stuff. Around November last year, I started a thread here about tacos. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously, and it wasn't. It stood in the first page till the end od Febtober, though. Just interesting stuffs.
Originally posted by Cory
... Water is the most sabsurd idea I have ever heard, seeing as water and electronics NEVER go well together...
Gee, that's going to be a really big surprise to these folks. (http://www.auvsi.org/competitions/water.cfm) :rolleyes:
We have this discussion every year (search the old threads). Technically, adding water to the competition would not be that big a leap. It has already happened unintentionally at a few events. The only real anti-aquatic arguments that hold water (heh!) are about the various logistical difficulties associated with moving moist elements of the field in and out of the competition venues.
-dave
Originally posted by Cory
Water is the most sabsurd idea I have ever heard, seeing as water and electronics NEVER go well together.
Only if you are not prepared.
The most absurd ideas (metal files as a mobility system) sometimes work the best.
VROOOM
Wetzel
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/me exhibits shifty eyes
-Jim
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