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allgoodthehood
19-01-2016, 18:55
Is tank swerve drive a feasible drive train?
Like tank treads in swerve modules? Seems like the weakness of both with slight benefit over regular swerve.
How would that look? The treads would have to be really short so the the modules could go into a typical 4-module swerve configuration.
Oslim1999
19-01-2016, 19:31
Are you asking if a two-tread swerve (where the normal sized-tank treads rotate), or a 4-tread swerve with four really small treads?
Anthony Galea
19-01-2016, 19:44
If I'm visualizing this right, I feel like the rotation of the modules if it was 4 module swerve would cause a lot of turning scrub, and even more so if it was 2 module. If you could design it and build it, congratulations, but I don't really see a competitive advantage that could be gained from it.
Electronica1
19-01-2016, 19:56
Does this count? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTp2UAaihaI)
Does this count? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTp2UAaihaI)
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that more of an omni-wheel style than an independently steered tank drive module?
Justin Ridley
19-01-2016, 20:13
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/12291
The godfathers of swerve, FRC47, did it in 2001. 4 wheel independent tank tread swerve modules. This, back when motor selection was nowhere close to what we have today.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/12291
The godfathers of swerve, FRC47, did it in 2001. 4 wheel independent tank tread swerve modules. This, back when motor selection was nowhere close to what we have today.
Huh. TIL. Any videos of this floating around?
RyanShoff
19-01-2016, 22:33
The real question is whether it is called a twerve drive or a swank drive.
Ricky Bobby
19-01-2016, 23:09
We are planning on doing a butterfly drivetrain with the low gear wheels on the inside, but instead of wheels we will be using tank treads to be able to push around other bots and be able to cross some of the tougher defenses while still being able to out maneuver many bots on the offensive
TheHolyHades1
19-01-2016, 23:11
Do you mean having a turreting center piece, similar to how a modern tank's weapon can aim independent of the wheel orientation (I think)?
Peyton Yeung
20-01-2016, 00:08
461 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/08c/08ca8c55b5be72ee2d27608e782a61e7_l.jpg)did a tank swerve in 2002. I uploaded a video (https://youtu.be/FNBldK_j6sI?t=110)of one of the matches where the camera features it near the end.
Ricky Bobby
20-01-2016, 00:30
Wait, so swerve or butterfly? The two are not the same.
It will be butterfly with tank treads instead of high traction wheels, not swerve drive. We are calling it Butter Tank.
allgoodthehood
20-01-2016, 17:34
The real question is whether it is called a twerve drive or a swank drive.
This is really the only question the needs to be answered in this thread.
The real question is whether it is called a twerve drive or a swank drive.
How about twerk drive?
It's doable I guess they may these
https://www.mattracks.com/
pwnageNick
21-01-2016, 11:12
Sounds like something we would do...
RAGTOPSTANG
21-01-2016, 11:36
I just...
How is this even done?
saikiranra
21-01-2016, 14:15
Can't wait to see how 1717 impliments that this ye- oh wait :(
Can't wait to see how 1717 impliments that this ye- oh wait :(
Too soon T.T
RyanShoff
06-02-2016, 23:47
https://twitter.com/MarsWars4143/status/696156498351779840
Our team has settled on "twerve drive".
Munchskull
07-02-2016, 13:09
https://twitter.com/MarsWars4143/status/696156498351779840
Our team has settled on "twerve drive".
How are you dealing with wire wrap?
allgoodthehood
07-02-2016, 16:07
https://twitter.com/MarsWars4143/status/696156498351779840
Our team has settled on "twerve drive".
You guys are a legend.
How are you dealing with wire wrap?
In the past few years with swerve we've used slip rings, which is a possibility as well as either a mechanical stop or limiting it in the code or perhaps both.
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