View Full Version : Australian 4613 Robot Reveal 2016!!
Josho499#4613
20-02-2016, 23:45
4613 Barker Redbacks present our 2016 Robot for FIRST Stronghold
http://vimeo.com/156129484
See you in Calgary and in Sydney Regionals
Good luck to all teams
Turret!!!!! This robot looks awesome!
logank013
20-02-2016, 23:51
First of all, your field looks amazing! Secondly, very impressive robot. Most of the teams I've seen have had lots of issues aligning correctly with the goal. Your bot seemed to have a consistent shooter from what I saw. I can honestly say, you changed my opinion of the 6 wheel pneumatic drive. Great robot. Good luck in this season.
Josho499#4613
20-02-2016, 23:54
First of all, your field looks amazing! Secondly, very impressive robot. Most of the teams I've seen have had lots of issues aligning correctly with the goal. Your bot seemed to have a consistent shooter from what I saw. I can honestly say, you changed my opinion of the 6 wheel pneumatic drive. Great robot. Good luck in this season.
Maybe your opinions are correct. Check at 0:28 and recount the wheels :) :)
First of all, your field looks amazing! Secondly, very impressive robot. Most of the teams I've seen have had lots of issues aligning correctly with the goal. Your bot seemed to have a consistent shooter from what I saw. I can honestly say, you changed my opinion of the 6 wheel pneumatic drive. Great robot. Good luck in this season.
You'd be surprised how well 6 wheel pneumatic works. We've got almost the same robot aside from the turret part.
JohnSchneider
20-02-2016, 23:58
Really solid robot from one of the newest #TeamIFI members!
The sideways shot from the back is a neat wrinkle in strategy.
Hope to see you at champs!
logank013
20-02-2016, 23:59
Maybe your opinions are correct. Check at 0:28 and recount the wheels :) :)
Wait... 7 wheels? or is there another one in the center that I couldn't see? I take it that extra wheel is for the cheval de fries?
Wait... 7 wheels? or is there another one in the center that I couldn't see? I take it that extra wheel is for the cheval de fries?
Nah, keep looking. There are a few more than that :)
logank013
21-02-2016, 00:04
Nah, keep looking. There are a few more than that :)
Geez... is that 10? are all of those wheels for the drive system? either way, that is a powerful drive system.
serenagh
21-02-2016, 00:10
Awesome. I was blown away. Good luck this season. This is my favorite robot so far:)
Dave Campbell
21-02-2016, 00:15
Very nice Barker College! Jeser, Daiane and your awesome Aussie crew! Another fantastic bot.
tickspe15
21-02-2016, 00:28
Looks Great!
It was a pleasure to work with 4613 on Curie last year, I look forward to seeing them at Champs.
Your bot seemed to have a consistent shooter from what I saw.
Am I missing something? What did they do to show that their shooter is consistent?
Geez... is that 10? are all of those wheels for the drive system? either way, that is a powerful drive system.
Corndogs for you. There are 6 pneumatic wheels on the outside and 4 on the inside, each is driven with belts, which reside inside the chassis tube.
Bob Steele
21-02-2016, 00:52
Great looking robot from Down Under!! (or anywhere else for that matter)
Love to see you on the field!!
good luck!!
Josh Goodman
21-02-2016, 01:05
Beautiful! My first "why didn't I think of that" of the season -- kudos!
Good luck at competition. Hope to see you at champs!
The robot looks fantastic in the video! I am very excited to go to Australian regionals with it.Thanks Josh for the awesome vid!
Lord Basket
21-02-2016, 15:40
Are those bumpers legal?
joelg236
21-02-2016, 15:42
Very nice, hope to talk to you guys in Calgary - let me know if there's anything we can do to make your stay here better!
Josho499#4613
21-02-2016, 16:19
Are those bumpers legal?
They fill all the bumper requierements. They're just not flat
10 wheels...wow! Great job, guys - and best of luck at Sydney and WCR!
Awesome! Good luck this season guys
Super work. That's a regional winner for sure, and also deserves some engineering and imagery awards. Best of luck!
Nice robot!
Amazing video, please pass it on to your video team!
Oh wow, that thing is terrifying! Looking forward to seeing you guys here at Western Canada!
Great robot! What wheels are you using for the shooters? And what motors are you using? My team is using 4" Stealth Wheels ran by mini cims, geared 1:1.67 with 3" of compression. We are having issues shooting so we may change the gearing again.
Spirator
22-02-2016, 16:31
It was great playing with the Barker Redbacks at the week 0 scrimmage. Congrats on making a fantastic robot!
Hjelstrom
22-02-2016, 17:06
Wow, this robot looks awesome! Great job!
Greg
Great robot! What wheels are you using for the shooters? And what motors are you using? My team is using 4" Stealth Wheels ran by mini cims, geared 1:1.67 with 3" of compression. We are having issues shooting so we may change the gearing again.
We are using 3.5 inch Colson wheels (hex bore), driven by 775pros with 4:1(5:1 originally, but 4:1 gives a faster launch speed) Versaplanetary gearboxes. 9mm belts and pulleys are used to transmit power from the gearbox to the shooter wheels, so the Versaplanetaries can be located behind the shooter wheels.
Golfer4646
22-02-2016, 18:00
Awesome looking robot and video! I must have watched this reveal 30+ times, and am still noticing things that make me wonder, "Why didn't I think of that?"!
How wide of a range is your ground intake able to pick up boulders from? Also, how do you center the boulders so that your flywheel can consistently receive them, when the boulders are initially intaked from off-center of the launcher?
Thanks
We are using 3 inch Colson wheels (hex bore), driven by 775pros with 5:1 Versaplanetary gearboxes. 9mm belts and pulleys are used to transmit power from the gearbox to the shooter wheels, so the Versaplanetaries can be located behind the shooter wheels.
They may be 4:1 now.... 5:1 wasn't quick enough :)
Joe Johnson
22-02-2016, 19:43
Another zig-zag bumper design. Seeing more and more of them. Brando was singing their praises a few years back... ...yet another new trick for this old dog to have to learn...
It never ends with this FIRST stuff. You have to keep watching, keep learning if you want to stay on top of your game.
FYI, my favorite part of this year's Behind the Design (https://marketplaceforfirst.com/2016/01/09/first-robots-behind-the-design-book/) was the great pains that Vince & Stephanie went to pull tricks of the trade out of their submissions and reveal them to the mere morals like you & I.
Zig-zag bumpers. Keep an eye out for them. They look like a lot of work. But a lot of smart teams seem to think the work is worth the bother.
Cheers,
Dr. Joe J.
Josho499#4613
23-02-2016, 02:56
Another zig-zag bumper design. Seeing more and more of them. Brando was singing their praises a few years back... ...yet another new trick for this old dog to have to learn...
We'll see how it works out soon! Hopefully it wasn't a waste of time...
Another zig-zag bumper design. Seeing more and more of them. Brando was singing their praises a few years back... ...yet another new trick for this old dog to have to learn...
Zig-zag bumpers. Keep an eye out for them. They look like a lot of work. But a lot of smart teams seem to think the work is worth the bother.
Cheers,
Dr. Joe J.
The zig-zag components of the bumpers, were manufactured on a CNC router. The pool noodles, were happy to conform to the shape after a bit of persuasion and restraint. The most complicated and time consuming component was the fabric. A lot of time was spent trying to prevent creases in the bumper fabric.
As Josh said, only time will tell whether it was worth it.
jeser#1772
23-02-2016, 04:25
Very nice Barker College! Jeser, Daiane and your awesome Aussie crew! Another fantastic bot.
Thanks Dave! hope to see you and 144 at champs again!
jeser#1772
24-02-2016, 06:25
How wide of a range is your ground intake able to pick up boulders from? Also, how do you center the boulders so that your flywheel can consistently receive them, when the boulders are initially intaked from off-center of the launcher?
Thanks
thanks
Our intake has approx 24 in of useful area, we use a combination of bumpers and a inside frame to center the ball.
cheers
The feature-set on this robot looks eerily familiar. It is good to know there is hope in this design, and we weren't crazy to jam-pack it all in.
Overall it looks really cool, like an event-dominating robot TBH. I wonder if the zig-zag bumpers will help or hurt with open-field pins. The ability to shoot 90-ish degrees to the right will help a TON if the lighting conditions change at a venue, requiring time to re-tune vision processing.
I am curious about the intake - it looks as if the pneumatic cylinders are able to stop mid-stroke to drop a ball off to the shooter?
Mike Schreiber
24-02-2016, 14:08
I am curious about the intake - it looks as if the pneumatic cylinders are able to stop mid-stroke to drop a ball off to the shooter?
Stop the video at 0:29. There's two cylinders.
I am curious about the intake - it looks as if the pneumatic cylinders are able to stop mid-stroke to drop a ball off to the shooter?
There are two cylinders, the first set push the arm to the ball drop off height. The second set, lift the arm to it's full height preventing it from getting hit by other robots, the raising of the arm also prevents the arm hitting obstacles or the ground again preventing damage. The second set, have a set of flow restrictors which reduce the forces on the arm when it stops at the top of it's travel. They allow the cylinders to act like shock absorbers, preventing jarring and damage to the arm from fatigue.
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