View Full Version : Last call for bold predictions before competition begins!
Bryce2471
25-02-2016, 00:59
I predict
The winning alliance in St. Louis will consist of no fewer than one robot that cannot limbo the low bar, and no fewer than two robots whose primary shooting position is from the outer works.
Bryce Nack has spoken.
PS. Make your last minute bold predictions here. Or just tear mine to shreds and don't worry about it. :D
I predict that defending your tower from incoming boulders will be more difficult than most people here on CD are thinking.
Bluman56
25-02-2016, 01:06
The #1 seed at every event will be a low bar bot.
I predict that winning alliances will often consist of at least 1 robot that can do nothing but climb and play defense (and scale the easier defenses), probably with a cheesecaked climber. All 6 bots on einstein will have climbers. The top seed at every regional will be a low bar bot, but the 2nd seed may not be. And I'm willing to bet that 1st seeds will win strong regionals, but weak regionals will not be won by 1st seeds.
Street_dreamZ
25-02-2016, 01:11
2056 will lose their first regional, and win their first championship.
The #1 seed at every event will be a low bar bot.
I'll challenge that with, At least 1 event will have a non-low bar robot as #1 seed captain.
Bryce2471
25-02-2016, 01:19
I'll challenge that with, At least 1 event will have a non-low bar robot as #1 seed captain.
I'll raise you that no less that 20% of events will be won by an alliance captain that is not low bar capable.
The Portcullis will quickly become the most popular defence to be chosen by alliances and audiences alike.
Rangel(kf7fdb)
25-02-2016, 01:25
254 will have a 3 ball auto by championships.
Also championship winning alliance will be 3 cycling robots who all shoot in the high goal from the outerworks.
The top 20 high goal shooters in terms of OPR will all have some form of alignment other than driving manually, i.e. vision targeting
Bluman56
25-02-2016, 02:19
254 will have a 3 ball auto by championships.
Also championship winning alliance will be 3 cycling robots who all shoot in the high goal from the outerworks.
Replace outerworks with batter and I agree.
Replace outerworks with batter and I agree.
How do you expect 3 separate robots to efficiently score from the batter? That seems like a nightmare even without a defender. If you add a defender into the mix (which I think we'll see in nearly all eliminations matchups) the scoring will become abysmal.
Bluman56
25-02-2016, 02:23
How do you expect 3 separate robots to efficiently score from the batter? That seems like a nightmare even without a defender. If you add a defender into the mix (which I think we'll see in nearly all eliminations matchups) the scoring will become abysmal.Easy, same way that 2/3 bots used the position under the pyramid facing the center high goal in 2013.
Bluman56
25-02-2016, 02:25
To clarify, I mean up the batter against the castle wall as a hard stop, not just getting close to the batter and shooting.
Mitchell1714
25-02-2016, 02:41
The world champion alliance will not have a high goal shooting robot. ALSO, they will have their division's best robot at playing defense on the opposing alliance.
The other Gabe
25-02-2016, 02:48
there will be at least one time during Einstein play where a robot will become stuck underneath the low bar, or flip itself attempting to traverse one of the other outer works
Keefe2471
25-02-2016, 03:15
I think you will see a few things develop over the next few weeks.
1. I think as scoring of boulders increases and inbounding becomes something that you are forced to do as boulders come in, instead of as your alliance needs them, you will need to have a presence in the secret passage to keep the enemy from short circuiting their cycles and easily running up the score. Therefor, defense will be critical and will be something you see on 6/8 elimination alliances at every regional up until district championships and Saint. Louis.
2. Tall robots will be the landfill robots of this year (a bit biased... but looking at #1, congestion issues at the batter and in the courtyard in general, and ease of manipulation of category A and C if you built tall, etc.)
3. Least bold prediction: Climbing will be much more like in 2010 than 2013.
Anthony Galea
25-02-2016, 06:57
ITT: people predicting that their robot design will win Einstein.
Here's a bold prediction: the portcullis will be knocked over or broken at least once this year.
RadonH0926
25-02-2016, 07:26
The alliance that wins Einstein will have a rookie team that was the first pick by the alliance captain. That same alliance will not have been a #1 seed in its respective division.
Chris is me
25-02-2016, 07:29
At least one low goal will be scored on Einstein.
Not every robot on the winning alliance will hang.
carpedav000
25-02-2016, 07:43
The winning alliance will be able to breach the outer works within 30 seconds (after autonomous)
The top 25 teams in FRC (measured however you would like -- FRCTop25, Looking Forward top 25, whatever) will have a greater percentage of low bar challenged robots than FRC as a whole.
In the elimination rounds, over 50% of low bar capable robots will never use the low bar.
Captures will occur in fewer than 30% of qualification matches across all weeks of regionals/districts. Of these captures, more than half will be achieved entirely through low goal scoring.
Matches in which all three robots make a high goal auto shot will occur, on average, less than three times per regional. Multi-ball autos don't count, but these will also be rarer than many are expecting, much rarer than they were in 2014
An 8th seed will make Einstien, and make a deep run there.
So will a rookie, and not as a 4th team.
No robots with Rhino tread modules will make Einstien.
A record number of backup robots will be used, both at championships and at regionals/districts
A highly favored alliance will loose in the finals due to a roboRIO brownout related error.
Scaling will start the season rare, but become practically a necessity for einstein teams.
Related, a cheesecakeable scaling device will emerge later in the season.
Across all week 0.5 and week 1 events, the number of triple tortugas will approach double digits.
A robot will successfully, if roughly, perform a barrel roll crossing the ramparts. People will be talking about it for years.
A majority of robot redesigns this year are going to be focused on swapping from a variable position to a fixed position shooter. The number of batter shooters will increase dramatically as the season goes on.
The category C defenses will never be used past the divisional quarterfinals.
Somebody is going to do something stupid with plastic pneumatic tanks, resulting in a hard impact to them during a defense crossing, catastrophic failure of the tank, and will subsequently re-open debate about these things.
For the first time since an equivalent statement was added in 2012, FIRST will act on the blue box under section 3.1.4 of the game manual, re-scaling the tower strength for championships. People will be disgruntled by this.
People will like this game less in April than they do right now. Reasons cited will be similar to Aerial Assist: robot fatigue, scoring/penalty inconsistencies, in addition to a less severe repeat of 2010's tendency to cause robots designed for the tunnel to blur together when viewed from a distance.
Ginger Power
25-02-2016, 08:11
Every team will wish they had a climber, and climbing will be shown to be way more valuable than expected.
The difference in performance between short and tall robots will be a lot less extreme than everybody is predicting. In the end it won't make a huge difference if you're tall or short if you can play the game effectively.
The qualities that describe most elite teams will be: Low bar capable, with an unblockable shot, and a climber.
Defense will play a factor in every single playoff match, but very few qualification matches.
The overall high score at most events will come during quals.
On Einstein, at least one alliance in every round will have both breached the opponents' defenses and weakened the opponents' tower with 1:15 left in the match.
No scissorlifts will be in the CMP division finals.
There will be two Dean's List Finalists from the same school.
The CMP Chairman's Award will go to a team that is not American.
One Einstein alliance will be made of teams from the same district.
Categories B & D and the low bar will be, on average, the first to be damaged.
Poseidon5817
25-02-2016, 09:29
The #1 seed at every event will be a low bar bot.
This.
This.
Why, with almost everyone (on CD) at least claiming that they can go under the low bar the value of it had dramatically dropped, at least in my opinion. My bold prediction is that only half to 3/4 of the robots on Einstein will be low bar bots.
the_godfaubel
25-02-2016, 09:48
There will be a robot on Einstein that has a cheesecaked climbing device. :D
A #1 seed will pick the best robot available and be respectfully declined. The #1 seeded alliance will face that robot's alliance in the finals and win. (At a regional)
Someone will make a paper airplane that makes it into one of the towers on Einstein.
The winning alliance on Einstein will consist of all first time Champs.
Procolsaurus
25-02-2016, 09:54
There will be teams on Einstein that score their only boulder during autonomous.
Zebra_Fact_Man
25-02-2016, 10:15
The top 25 teams in FRC (measured however you would like -- FRCTop25, Looking Forward top 25, whatever) will have a greater percentage of low bar challenged robots than FRC as a whole.
I almost guarantee it.
Captures will occur in fewer than 30% of qualification matches across all weeks of regionals/districts. Of these captures, more than half will be achieved entirely through low goal scoring.
I'd wager > 75% of all captures will be done primarily with low goal scoring (5+ balls).
No robots with Rhino tread modules will make Einstien.
That will be the biggest surprise of them all. Due to just the sheer mass quantity of them, I think like last year with mecanums, it's just bound to happen.
Related, a cheesecakeable scaling device will emerge later in the season.
I sure would like to know how that will happen. I keep hearing whispers about cheesecake lifting, but that sounds crazier than cheesecake can burglary last year, which I don't think ever happened.
A robot will successfully, if roughly, perform a barrel roll crossing the ramparts. People will be talking about it for years.
That's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em.
The number of batter shooters will increase dramatically as the season goes on.
This also in; the amount of defense played on said batter shooters will also increase as the season goes on.
The category C defenses will never be used past the divisional quarterfinals.
I hope that's not the case. C plans to be the first one we damage.
Caleb Sykes
25-02-2016, 10:30
No robots with Rhino tread modules will make Einstien.
No robots with swerve drives will make it to Einstein.
Procolsaurus
25-02-2016, 10:44
The 2016 Palmetto regional will be the most watched regional during week 0.5.
It will also be the most watched palmetto regional ever.
Anthony Galea
25-02-2016, 10:46
Here's my set of predictions:
1) There will be at least one regional where the event is decided by a crossing that is missed by a referee, causing Chief Delphi to grab their torches and pitchforks.
2) There will be at least three alliances in the top three seeds throughout the season that picks a random third robot, only for their capture to fail because that third bot rolls off the batter when they try to park on it.
3) More than 70% of winning alliances will capture in the finals matches that they win.
4) At the Championship, out of the 24 robots that play on Einstein, there will be less than 10 that scale.
5) Barring a robot comms issue, every match on Einstein will have a breach on both sides.
6) The Einstein winning alliance will have at least one robot that does not go under the low bar.
7) The most high goals a single team will score in a match is 10.
8) 1678 will be on Einstein again, moving into the sole owner of second place for the record of consecutive Einstein appearances (177 is in 1st, 1678 and 67 are tied for 2nd)
9) Michigan will have their 4th HoF team.
10) The following countries will be represented on Einstein: USA, Canada, Israel, Mexico, Australia.
11) A district championship winning alliance will have two of their alliance members on the same alliance on Einstein.
12) A VERY controversial call will knock an alliance out in some level above the division semifinals.
The rough terrain will be the least common defense this season.
Hjelstrom
25-02-2016, 10:50
I sure would like to know how that will happen. I keep hearing whispers about cheesecake lifting, but that sounds crazier than cheesecake can burglary last year, which I don't think ever happened.
Here are some cheesecaked canburglars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssRfFHOz2tM
Cheesecaked lifting sounds crazy though.
Zebra_Fact_Man
25-02-2016, 10:56
Here are some cheesecaked canburglars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssRfFHOz2tM
Cheesecaked lifting sounds crazy though.
Which robot? There were like four can burglars in that video.
carpedav000
25-02-2016, 10:59
Several winning alliances at the regional level will be composed of three low goal only robots.
Cheesecaked climbing devices will be somewhat common at state/dcmp
179, 33, and 1477 will be on Einstein
2 Indiana teams will make it to Einstein
118 and 4334 will beat 1114 and 2056 at GTR
Jared Russell
25-02-2016, 11:01
Bold prediction:
More than half of the predictions in this thread (as of the time of this posting) will be wrong.
Sperkowsky
25-02-2016, 11:04
1. There will be a Tortuga on Einstein.
2. A regional will be won without a single high goal
3. There will be at least one backup robot playing on Einstein
4. Not a single Rhino Track drive will be on Einstein
5. The winning alliance on Einstein will have 3 hanging robots
6. Not a single 3 ball auton will be completed
7. There will be at least one IFI team on the winning alliance
8. There will be one robot that will catch on fire during elims at a regional
9. There will be an instance where a robot landed on top of another.
Is This Bold enough for you?
Bluman56
25-02-2016, 11:10
Bold prediction:
More than half of the predictions in this thread (as of the time of this posting) will be wrong.
If a bold prediction predicts that a bold prediction is wrong, does it make it a bold prediction?
I think we need to amp up the boldness.
efoote868
25-02-2016, 11:17
The starting STRENGTH of the TOWER will not be increased.
Zebra_Fact_Man
25-02-2016, 11:27
For the first time since an equivalent statement was added in 2012, FIRST will act on the blue box under section 3.1.4 of the game manual, re-scaling the tower strength for championships. People will be disgruntled by this.
The starting STRENGTH of the TOWER will not be increased.
So we've had bold predictions for both Value raised at Champs, AND Value NOT raised.
Well, which is it; they both can't be bold. Fight, fight, fight!!!
orangemoore
25-02-2016, 11:31
Bold prediction:
More than half of the predictions in this thread (as of the time of this posting) will be wrong.
I have to agree with this.
BrennanB
25-02-2016, 11:44
118 and 4334 will beat 1114 and 2056 at GTR
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
4334 isn't attending an event with 1114 or 2056.
I will singlehandedly win Champs.
Usage of the Category C defenses will be almost non-existent in Qualification matches, but will be used in EVERY match in Eliminations.
There will be at least one match of closed-cycle Stronghold.
Green Potato
25-02-2016, 12:26
From seeing teams' releases on CD, over 50% of high goal shooters will be able to be rendered useless by a piece of duck-taped pool noodle, especially in Elims.
I'll even go as far as to say this: At palmetto, a quite reliable and quick climber will be MORE VALUABLE than a decent high-goal shooter SHOULD defense be played well.
Some team, I'll even go as far as to limit only to alliance captains, is going to win a regional just by scoring low goals at lightning-fast speed and scaling.
We'll see 3 times as many breaches as captures at palmetto, but this will decrease to about 1.5 by worlds.
Every single defense, at some point or another, is going to get severely damaged. For some more vulnerable defenses, like the portcullis or cheval, this will be about once a week. For things like the rock wall, it may turn into one in the season.
Ginger Power
25-02-2016, 12:29
Every single defense, at some point or another, is going to get severely damaged. For some more vulnerable defenses, like the portcullis or cheval, this will be about once a week. For things like the rock wall, it may turn into one in the season.
I fear it may be much more common than this...
Tall shooters will be better than low bar shooters!
Most (>90%) low robots with shooters would have been better off without their shooters, because they miss too many shots.
Some robots will seed #1 without scoring any high goals in qualifier rounds.
SoccerTaco
25-02-2016, 12:50
A team standard will be destroyed by a boulder during autonomous.
Ditto for teleop, with the standard falling on the drive team.
Hjelstrom
25-02-2016, 13:16
Nearly all of the boulders scored on Einstein will be in the high goal!
tindleroot
25-02-2016, 13:44
The amount of non-limbo robots that are alliance captains vs. first picks will be almost equal.
For the first 2-3 weeks of the season, capturing a tower will be a very rare occurrence. There will likely be some regionals or districts where fewer than 2 captures occur during qualification.
This will make many question if the capture standard is too high.
If "strengthening" does not occur, CAPTURING at district championships may become so universal that it will "mess with the ranking". Historically this is around 50%+ for a bonus that involves ranking.
Every single defense, at some point or another, is going to get severely damaged. For some more vulnerable defenses, like the portcullis or cheval, this will be about once a week. For things like the rock wall, it may turn into one in the season.
I assume you mean literally damaged, not damaged by the game manual's definition
Green Potato
25-02-2016, 15:14
I assume you mean literally damaged, not damaged by the game manual's definition
Yep, and that's why I added in "seriously." We're talking peices just flying off this bases, major clippings, etc.::ouch::
matthewdenny
25-02-2016, 16:50
On average at least 1 match in elimination rounds will be affected by electrical systems failing.
Hitchhiker 42
25-02-2016, 16:53
The Portcullis will quickly become the most popular defence to be chosen by alliances and audiences alike.
Change that to sally port - makes it harder!
SoccerTaco
25-02-2016, 16:57
Every single defense, at some point or another, is going to get severely damaged.
#1. Low bar at Palmetto. The fabric has already been ripped off one of the low bars and they are just running the practice matches without it.
Zebra_Fact_Man
25-02-2016, 17:05
#1. Low bar at Palmetto. The fabric has already been ripped off one of the low bars and they are just running the practice matches without it.
Sooo... does this mean that our HP is going to get fouled for returning balls to the opposing courtyard if there is no fabric?
NoahTappen
25-02-2016, 17:19
This season's highest scoring match will take place on Curie, 1114 will be part of this alliance.
The match begins with the first robot, a high goal shooter, driving under the low bar, scoring a high goal and parking in the corner of the courtyard by the spy. This robot will remain in the courtyard in-taking balls from low goal shooters, retrieving balls from it's opponents secret passage and scoring high goals, at the end of the match this robot hangs.
The BDE defenses will be weakened in auton This alliance will achieve a breach of defenses for the BCDE defenses within 30 seconds of the match.
The second robot which specialized on breaching will fall back and play effective defense until endgame, upon endgame this robot hangs.
The third robot spends the match damaging the category A defense and passes boulders to the first robot. This third robot is a rookie who can only score low goals but has an effective drive-train. This robot has a cheesecaked hang mechanism and wins highest rookie seed on Curie.
Match score: 245
Sooo... does this mean that our HP is going to get fouled for returning balls to the opposing courtyard if there is no fabric?
I asked a Q&A question about this recently, mostly about exploiting the field damage. It's Q878, and to put it simply, no foul. However, if the refs think that the robot that broke the low bar did it strategically or intentionally, a yellow/red card may be called.
Since predictions that conveniently favor your team's strategy seem popular, here are some of mine:
Short, high goal shooting robots won't be blocked very often early on if they're driving is good because the defender isn't fast enough to get in the way before the shot.
It will be significantly easier for most defending teams to stop a robot from getting to the batter and shooting than to block a robot from shooting from the outerworks.
A robot with a good drivetrain and good drivers will be able to breach in almost every single match, regardless of their alliance.
FarmerJohn
25-02-2016, 18:30
Nobody is going to climb the tower.
No robots with swerve drives will make it to Einstein.
No robots will make it to Einstein.
There will be many broken belts and many tears.
Scaling will not be a factor on Einstein.
A tortuga will cost a major alliance a chance to get to Einstein.
Three robot scaling will be as common as the loch ness monster.
thatprogrammer
25-02-2016, 22:20
You will see a large amount of alliances get broken by picking a bad defensive robot as their last pick. These robots will not be able to prevent good low bar robots from getting to the high goal.
Inter-match setup time will be ages, and the regionals will mostly be behind schedule.
thatprogrammer
25-02-2016, 22:24
Inter-match setup time will be ages, and the regionals will mostly be behind schedule.
But that's every year :p
In all seriousness, it seemed like setting up the matches at the week 0 events was actually very quick.
IronicDeadBird
25-02-2016, 22:28
Uhhhh craziest thing I can see happening.
Everyone is wrong about defensive play this year.
piersklein
25-02-2016, 23:32
I predict there will be no catapults on the winning alliance on Einstein, and that that alliance will have a dedicated defensive robot.
David8696
25-02-2016, 23:46
2056 will lose their first regional, and win their first championship.
I like this one.
Justin Montois
26-02-2016, 00:56
I like this one.
I wonder how 2056 would feel about that.
thomasweese
26-02-2016, 01:15
I predict
There will be one rookie team on the championship alliance. All three teams will be from the Silicon Valley Regional, all will be able to tackle the low bar, and two of the teams will be extremely consistent shooters. The third team will be a support robot with the ability to swiftly and effectively collect balls to make sure the shooters have ammunition.
I predict...
Some team will have figured out how to scale (by having their bumpers above low goal) without the use of any hook/claw/harpoon or winch and somehow levitate from the batter up while barley touching the bar above with some very light extension
No robots with swerve drives will make it to Einstein.
Only robots with both Rhino Modules and swerve drive will make Einstein :p .
Noudvanbrunscho
26-02-2016, 05:51
No 3 Ball autonomous but on Einstein there will be >4 boulders scored in each tower (high goal).
This season's highest scoring match will take place on Curie, 1114 will be part of this alliance.
The match begins with the first robot, a high goal shooter, driving under the low bar, scoring a high goal and parking in the corner of the courtyard by the spy. This robot will remain in the courtyard in-taking balls from low goal shooters, retrieving balls from it's opponents secret passage and scoring high goals, at the end of the match this robot hangs.
The BDE defenses will be weakened in auton This alliance will achieve a breach of defenses for the BCDE defenses within 30 seconds of the match.
The second robot which specialized on breaching will fall back and play effective defense until endgame, upon endgame this robot hangs.
The third robot spends the match damaging the category A defense and passes boulders to the first robot. This third robot is a rookie who can only score low goals but has an effective drive-train. This robot has a cheesecaked hang mechanism and wins highest rookie seed on Curie.
Match score: 245
This is the hardest read anyone has posted on this thread so far. I'm impressed.
petercooperjr
26-02-2016, 07:59
At some point during the season, there will be a penalty issued for violating G45.
Segev Huly
26-02-2016, 08:01
I predict that winning alliances will have to contain robots which able to shoot above defenders / be fast enough to shot while avoiding defenders.
Peyton Yeung
26-02-2016, 08:08
I wonder how 2056 would feel about that.
I'm not sure if I'd rather maintain a regional win streak or win the last solo Champs.
I'm not sure if I'd rather maintain a regional win streak or win the last solo Champs.
Huh. You can continue to win the $1,000 weekly lottery, or the $5B jackpot.
carpedav000
26-02-2016, 08:35
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
4334 isn't attending an event with 1114 or 2056.
Whoops. :p Make that 118 and 610.
SoccerTaco
26-02-2016, 10:29
#1. Low bar at Palmetto. The fabric has already been ripped off one of the low bars and they are just running the practice matches without it.
#2. Cheval de frise at Palmetto. Broken twice. One on the panels snapped in two.
They are taking it out of play until they get a solution.
Peyton Yeung
26-02-2016, 10:48
Huh. You can continue to win the $1,000 weekly lottery, or the $5B jackpot.
I forgot the /s for sarcasm
Noudvanbrunscho
26-02-2016, 10:50
#2. Cheval de frise at Palmetto. Broken twice. One on the panels snapped in two.
They are taking it out of play until they get a solution.
Make that 3. but it won't break anymore, it's taken out of the choices.
BBaltrusch
27-02-2016, 00:51
At some point during the season, there will be a penalty issued for violating G45.
Last year there was a team on Carson that got a yellow card for using the Chute Door to control a tote introduced to the field. There will always be people that don't read the rules.
Make that 3. but it won't break anymore, it's taken out of the choices.
Fixed by adding a 1/8" steel plate across the whole bottom of the polycarb. After looking at the field drawings, I'm surprised that wasn't there from the beginning due to the countersunk holes for the bolts mounting the panels to the pivot bracket. They were reintroduced to the field around match 28ish (?) and didn't seem to have any issues from there.
Zac Schofield
27-02-2016, 09:57
1. Highest scoring match this year will be over 250, it will be in the QUALIFIERS of a division
2. In elims at a district event, the 1st seed will suffer a double or triple Tortuga, allowing the 8th seed to beat them out, and go on to be finalists at that event.
3. At champs, we will see almost no scaling (in both quals and elims) on one of the fields.
4. On Einstein, there will be an alliance that has no US teams.
MaGiC_PiKaChU
27-02-2016, 10:38
1. Highest scoring match this year will be over 250, it will be in the QUALIFIERS of a division
I will challenge that. It will happen during eliminations
Zac Schofield
27-02-2016, 12:54
I will challenge that. It will happen during eliminations
I guess we'll have to find out :)
The way I see it happening in elims is if its 3 god-tier teams that just dominate the match.
I will challenge that. It will happen during eliminations
Definitely during eliminations. People are forgetting that breaches and captures are worth straight points during elimination rounds.
Dibit1010
28-02-2016, 07:05
As scouting time increases we will see more overall points but less ranking points
At the majority of events, the #1 seed will not be the team with the best W-L-T record.
Hitchhiker 42
01-03-2016, 08:41
Captures will be rare. Most teams will breach, and the one with a better auto and better scoring will win. General RP score will be 3-1.
High goals will be rare, and low goals will be more common.
michchinn
01-03-2016, 09:25
For the first few weeks of competition, high goals will be significantly more common than low goals.
Both towers would be discarded in up to 5% of the games, including elims, until the districts champs and the championship...
I predict that defending your tower from incoming boulders will be more difficult than most people here on CD are thinking.
From what I have seen, defence is a pretty difficult position to play. Although, Team 1793's method was both annoying and effective... Essentially they just backed their robot up and bumped it repeatedly into the opposing shooter. It was rather hilarious to watch, as the bumps were not even remotely malicious, just rather annoying and just enough to throw off the aim of the shot. I described it as the robot going "*bump* hey *bump* hey *bump* Over here *bump* Pay attention to me *bump* LOOK AT ME, I'M ADORABLE"
Zebra_Fact_Man
23-03-2016, 12:43
From what I have seen, defence is a pretty difficult position to play. Although, Team 1793's method was both annoying and effective... Essentially they just backed their robot up and bumped it repeatedly into the opposing shooter. It was rather hilarious to watch, as the bumps were not even remotely malicious, just rather annoying and just enough to throw off the aim of the shot. I described it as the robot going "*bump* hey *bump* hey *bump* Over here *bump* Pay attention to me *bump* LOOK AT ME, I'M ADORABLE"
Honestly, in the short time we needed to play defense, 1076 had no problem shutting down an entire alliance from scoring boulders. Zero boulders were scored (across 2 matches) when we were in the defensive area. We just stayed between the tower and whatever robot was coming up trying to score. They'd shoot and miss, or give up on the tower, and we'd turn our attention to the next robot up.
A more coordinated alliance would send 2 robots in at a time, but still, cancelling a team's top robot is quite impactful. In fact, if there is a qualifying match where we are up against a completely stacked alliance, I might just go play defense on them to show the opposing teams what we are capable of, instead of giving up on the 2 win rank points and trying to attempt the tower rank point.
adpalonis19
18-04-2016, 19:54
The tower will have 25 balls scored in the high goal during one match. Almost happened at the NE District Championship. Only 2 high goal bots shooting and one defense bot on winning alliance. Not a 1 seed.
howellroy
22-04-2016, 19:15
Why?
RoboChair
22-04-2016, 19:30
I'm not sure if I'd rather maintain a regional win streak or win the last solo Champs.
#LastWORLDChampions
djperry1009
22-04-2016, 19:33
A 3-8 seed will win Einstein
Bluman56
22-04-2016, 20:21
OP Robotics will be 4th seed alliance captain in their division and will win Einstein after an intense division finals.
Bluman56
22-04-2016, 20:27
OP Robotics will be 4th seed alliance captain in their division and will win Einstein after an intense division finals.
Just saw the division assignments and my gut is telling me that 1678 will have a repeat Einstein win with 971. I'm still holding out for 2056 winning their first World Championship.
EDIT: Wrote logic, meant gut. Logic says whoever comes out of the stacked Newton division will win Einstein.
RoboChair
22-04-2016, 20:59
Just saw the division assignments and my gut is telling me that 1678 will have a repeat Einstein win with 971. I'm still holding out for 2056 winning their first World Championship.
EDIT: Wrote logic, meant gut. Logic says whoever comes out of the stacked Newton division will win Einstein.
Want to have it both ways...
Can't :(
I personally was hoping to be in the same division as 2056 so we could try our best to win with them, not against them.
Bluman56
22-04-2016, 21:07
Want to have it both ways...
Can't :(
I personally was hoping to be in the same division as 2056 so we could try our best to win with them, not against them.
I felt like I made a million predictions there... That's how insane the competition will be. Usually I can confidently make a prediction, not so much this year it seems.
P.S If you guys tone down your insane scouting maybe you won't be able to steal an incredible 3rd robot yet again, giving 2056 an opportunity to win. ;)
AndrewPospeshil
22-04-2016, 22:36
Logic/a cursory glance says Newton is gonna win it all, so my gut tells me they won't. I do, however, think the world high score will come from this subdivision.
The other Gabe
22-04-2016, 23:06
On hopper, the eliminations alliance with 2046 on it will set the division high score in the Quarterfinals and then fail to move past the Semi-finals
(this has happened twice to them so far - Auburn and DCMP)
Dinokaiz2
23-04-2016, 18:47
The final match on Einstein will be decided by a clutch scale.
Bluman56
23-04-2016, 19:47
The final match on Einstein will be decided by a clutch scale.
Or a robbed two ball auton, depending how you look at it. ;)
RonAyyyyyyyy
23-04-2016, 20:02
I'm sticking with my original call that 2056 will win champs, with either 33, 2451, or maybe even 111.
The Einstein finals will be Newton vs Tesla, Newton will give them a run for their money. especially if it has 1241 and 254
carlgr32
23-04-2016, 21:03
The top 20 high goal shooters in terms of OPR will all have some form of alignment other than driving manually, i.e. vision targeting
I actually disagree with this on the fact that (as several teams found out at the state level) that banners and green lights on scoreboards throw of the vision targeting. I wouldn't rely on it to heavily
christheman200
26-04-2016, 10:53
The winner on Einstein will be decided by who gets to the centre ball first in auto.
Rangel(kf7fdb)
26-04-2016, 11:34
Newton has the most intense and competitive elimination matches but will lose in quarterfinals on Einstein.
346CADmen
26-04-2016, 12:10
In all divisions first 1 vs 8 matched, defense will not be a factor.
Ginger Power
30-04-2016, 18:22
2056 will lose their first regional, and win their first championship.
It's getting close...
Edit: knock on wood
MARS_James
30-04-2016, 18:39
Newton has the most intense and competitive elimination matches but will lose in quarterfinals on Einstein.
Give the man a medal lol
The other Gabe
30-04-2016, 19:15
Newton has the most intense and competitive elimination matches but will lose in quarterfinals on Einstein.
A+ prediction my friend
meanwhile, I'm incorrect twice ::ouch::
Adithya Balaji
30-04-2016, 19:22
Newton has the most intense and competitive elimination matches but will lose in quarterfinals on Einstein.
This man is clairvoyant... oh 'seer of the future' what is next year's game?
MARS_James
30-04-2016, 19:40
2056 will lose their first regional, and win their first championship.
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