2016 MAR Season [Archive]

AGPapa

27-02-2016, 16:53

The 2016 MAR season is about to begin! One hundred and twenty-one MAR teams are signed up, the same amount as last year (since our 8 rookie teams are offset by 8 lost teams). Fifty-five teams will go to Lehigh for the MAR District Championship and twenty-two teams, plus the three HoF teams (103, 341, and 356), will go St. Louis for the FIRST Championship.

Here's a spreadsheet showing which events team are attending.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AD60XfVzM5jZmuV_2PC4KlDwW2laGyn2lWvVEETnv0M/edit#gid=22
I may be missing a few Regionals or External Districts that teams are going to, let me know and I'll add it to the sheet.

MAR Events
Week 1: Hatboro-Horsham, Mount Olive
Week 3: Seneca, Springside-Chestnut Hill
Week 5: Bridgewater-Raritan, Westtown
Week 6: Montgomery

Teams attending a 3rd Event
Bridgewater: 193, 219, 1279, 4281
Westtown: 708, 1218, 1391, 1640
Montgomery: 103, 433, 869, 1228, 1403, 2180, 3974

Teams attending Regionals
South Florida: 11, 87, 2590, 4575
Buckeye: 303, 1676, 3314
Windsor-Essex: 2234
Queen City: 2016

In addition to the Buckeye Regional, 3314 is going to the NE Waterbury event.

We also have 190 from New England coming to the Montgomery event.

This year's District Rankings: http://frc-districtrankings.usfirst.org/

All time MAR Rankings: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s087OqNmn4xS_coJCsqX8bFfSPTKDocORiikkBvkXiE/edit

All time MAR Results at FIRST Championship: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YEe9beTRJF3qkbkFTXnnc1MOVn1AocsCeFqJAm0Ao30/edit#gid=0

Past year's threads:
2015:http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130649
2014:http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127415
2013:http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114857

The Lucas

27-02-2016, 18:14

Excellent work as always, I love the color gradients for past performance!
This will be a big time saver for prescouting robots at other events, even outside MAR.

simpsonboy77

03-03-2016, 15:34

Thanks, this is super useful as a CSA. The night before I usually go through each team to figure out if they are a first play, or a rookie as I want to visit them as early as possible.

Ben Martin

03-03-2016, 15:38

Good luck to everyone this weekend! Looking forward to seeing other 2016 MAR robots in person for the first time at Hatboro.

AGPapa

06-03-2016, 18:16

Congratulations to 1257, 5624 and 1676 for winning Mt. Olive!
Also to 1218, 2590 and 5407 for winning Hatboro!

I was at Hatboro and was impressed by a lot of the robots, particularly 834 and 25. Both had very solid low goal scoring robots and excellent drivers.

Inexplicably, the 2016 District ranking points website (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/)isn't live for 2016 yet. I'm not sure why, since from what I remember it updated live last year. The Blue Alliance rankings also aren't giving any points for Alliance Selection, Elims or Awards.

EDIT:The Blue Alliance (http://www.thebluealliance.com/events/mar#rankings) is now correctly showing district ranking points.

jgerstein

07-03-2016, 00:16

Congratulations to 1257, 5624 and 1676 for winning Mt. Olive!
Also to 1218, 2590 and 5407 for winning Hatboro!

I was at Hatboro and was impressed by a lot of the robots, particularly 834 and 25. Both had very solid low goal scoring robots and excellent drivers.

Inexplicably, the 2016 District ranking points website (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/)isn't live for 2016 yet. I'm not sure why, since from what I remember it updated live last year. The Blue Alliance rankings also aren't giving any points for Alliance Selection, Elims or Awards.

Thanks, and thanks for the spreadsheet you posted earlier. I'm hoping FIRST gets the ranking points site updated soon.

samefman

07-03-2016, 08:14

Congratulations to 1257, 5624 and 1676 for winning Mt. Olive!
Also to 1218, 2590 and 5407 for winning Hatboro!

I was at Hatboro and was impressed by a lot of the robots, particularly 834 and 25. Both had very solid low goal scoring robots and excellent drivers.

Inexplicably, the 2016 District ranking points website (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/)isn't live for 2016 yet. I'm not sure why, since from what I remember it updated live last year. The Blue Alliance rankings also aren't giving any points for Alliance Selection, Elims or Awards.
Thank you! Week 1 was really amazing and I was surprised by the high intensity of this years game. I'm looking forward to seeing how the game play evolves later in the season.

vmorgs

08-03-2016, 16:42

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this so if it's not, let me know. Anyway, I am a mentor from Team 5401 and received this e-mail from the Mid-Atlantic Region's District Advocate:

Hope everyone who competed this past weekend had fun. While I was judging at the Hatboro-Horsham Event, I was made aware of an issue pertaining to Team 87, Diablo from Rancocas Valley Regional High School District.

I am hoping someone will be able to help. They needed to borrow a RoboRio, from Spare Parts, during the competition since theirs had failed and their robot became inooperable. They are still in possession of the borrowed RoboRio, so they can compete at Seneca.

The mentor tried to order a replacement from AndyMark. Unfortunately, it is out of stock.

Is there any team that has an extra RoboRio that they are willing to lend or even sell to them?

If you can help, please contact Harvey Hans directly at harveyhans57@gmail.com or hhans@rvrhs.com.

Thank you and enjoy your competitions

It went out all of the teams in the MAR Region and we have one we might be able to lend them but I am not sure so I thought I would post this here in case another team was certain they did.

Hallry

09-03-2016, 09:41

I greatly appreciate The Blue Alliance tracking District Ranking Points (and the official FIRST site too, if it ever starts working again), but I also enjoy being able to see how the rankings and MAR/World Championship advancement would play out by inputting hypothetical scenarios. So, I made this Google Doc to track the MAR Rankings through the 2016 season: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qceaOJivEiD_zIZp8KLf4GpVpyW665MZhKLBKF9Wids/edit?usp=sharing.

I'll be continuously updating this document ASAP over the next coming weeks of competitions. I'll also do my best to update it real-time offline at MAR Champs, so feel free to find me there if you'd like a (completely unofficial) preview at your team's World Championship advancement prospects. Please message me if you find any errors in the document.

Thanks so much to Jack Greenbaum for the template, with credit also given to previous ranking Google Docs created by Scott Meredith and Antonio Papa.

Hallry

09-03-2016, 14:28

Congratulations to 1257, 5624 and 1676 for winning Mt. Olive!

Thanks! Forgot to post this here earlier, but 1676's full-field footage of all the Qualification and Elimination matches, as well as the Alliance Selections and Award Ceremony, has now been posted on our team's YouTube Channel here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUJJPXRAlEQ-j-E2PVJjWTkBn920n6Jy, and the videos have also been submitted to The Blue Alliance: http://www.thebluealliance.com/event/2016njfla. Enjoy!

alephzer0

09-03-2016, 16:26

Inexplicably, the 2016 District ranking points website (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/)isn't live for 2016 yet. I'm not sure why, since from what I remember it updated live last year. The Blue Alliance rankings also aren't giving any points for Alliance Selection, Elims or Awards.

EDIT:The Blue Alliance (http://www.thebluealliance.com/events/mar#rankings) is now correctly showing district ranking points.

Yeah this is strange. I wonder why it's still down...

Hallry

20-03-2016, 18:54

AGPapa

20-03-2016, 19:41

Here are the 2016 unofficial MAR Rankings after Week 3: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qceaOJivEiD_zIZp8KLf4GpVpyW665MZhKLBKF9Wids/edit?usp=sharing.

Also, Team 1676 earned the Chairman's Award at the Buckeye Regional this past weekend, advancing them to the World Championship and taking away a MAR point slot.

Congratulations 1676! For those who are counting, that's 21 Championship slots left that will be awarded at Lehigh.

Also congratulations to 11, 225 and 423 for winning Springside-Chestnut Hill! I caught some of the first day on the webcast, and the competition looked intense. I was very impressed with 225's design, hope to see you at Lehigh!

Finally, congratulations to 2590, 365 and 1626 for winning Seneca. It was nice seeing 365 and 2590 pair up to win Seneca like they did in 2012 when I was on the team. I was very impressed by 365, 1640 and 1089. All three of them had very nice high goal shots from the outer works.

Additionally, it seems like the official 2016 district ranking points website (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR)is online. I'm not sure why it took until week 3 to get running, but I'm glad it's here now.

John Weissman

21-03-2016, 07:01

Congratulations to 2590, 365 and 1626 for winning Sennica. You had a excellent alliance and we pushed as hard as we could and brought out the best in both alliances in the finals and put on one heck of a show. Thanks to our alliance partners teams 4573 and 6203 for being our partners. Both were great partners and can only get better as the season goes on.
John Weissman, mentor team 1640

Ben Martin

21-03-2016, 10:22

I was very impressed with 225's design, hope to see you at Lehigh!

Thanks!

I watched some Seneca footage last night, and I was very impressed with the 2590 & 365 alliance. We definitely have our work cut out for us to make our outer works shots more consistent for Westtown and MAR Champs. :)

Lil' Lavery

21-03-2016, 14:50

Anyone doing the mathematical tracking and prediction of where the DCMP cutoff will be?

rocpe

21-03-2016, 16:46

1626 Falcon Robotics would like to thank our alliance partners 2590 Nemesis and 365 MOE for the honor and the opportunity to run with them at MAR Seneca. Thank you for believing in us and taking a chance on us. 1626 will remain part MOEbot and part Nemesis forever. In all, we were aided by almost half of the teams present in our efforts to stay on the field and improve after we broke in our Saturday Practice match. Special thanks to Jack in the MAR machine shop who fabricated about 10 custom parts for us and to Matt and his crew from 1089 Mercury that kept us in ideas, raw materials and manpower. This event showed the Best of the FIRST community and it's concept of gracious professionalism.

Our friends from 1640 Sabotage,4573 Rambots and 6203 Blue Devil's were true intense competitors and were genuinely gracious in defeat. We offer them our congratulations and respect. They were true gladiators and warriors.

The Iron Devil's, 1647, were fantastic hosts and we congratulate them on their well-earned Chairman's Award. We also can't thank enough all of the hard-working and dedicated volunteers that make this event special.

Hallry

21-03-2016, 17:50

Anyone doing the mathematical tracking and prediction of where the DCMP cutoff will be?

Going off of last year's rankings (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uytGBBCrEhdVTiZ52nPjzomGiYcCu51HGJ0I1KKUBvU/edit#gid=0), the cutoff was around 50 ranking points when taking into account declined invitations to DCMP. I would expect roughly the same to be true this year (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qceaOJivEiD_zIZp8KLf4GpVpyW665MZhKLBKF9Wids/edit?usp=sharing).

galewind

21-03-2016, 18:06

Thanks!

I watched some Seneca footage last night, and I was very impressed with the 2590 & 365 alliance. We definitely have our work cut out for us to make our outer works shots more consistent for Westtown and MAR Champs. :)

We're thinking the same thing, Ben. We might need to tighten our error angle when we're > 11ft out. That said, we were pleased with our performance when our machine was functioning. We thankfully got a lot of that resolved, too :)

Big Kid

21-03-2016, 23:04

Congratulations to the Winning Alliance and the Runner-Ups at Seneca. As always a great event to watch and participate in.

I have one request, if anyone has a good picture of the (unfortunately failed attempt) of the the 816-87 robot stack (aka "Seneca Stack"), can you you please link it or send it to me that would be great.

Deetman

21-03-2016, 23:13

Hallry

01-04-2016, 11:36

Lot of MAR action happening this weekend. Some of interest:

Regional Plays
South Florida
11
87
2590
4575

Queen City
2016

Third District Plays
Bridgewater-Raritan
193
219
1279
4281

Westtown
1218
708
1640
1391

First Timers
Bridgewater-Raritan
555
714
1672
1989
3314 (Already played at Waterbury NE District Week 1 and Buckeye Regional Week 3)
5895 (Rookie)
5992 (Rooke)

Here are the webcast links for Bridgewater-Raritan and Westtown this weekend:

Bridgewater-Raritan - Apr 1st to Apr 3rd, 2016

Day 1 (Saturday, April 2nd) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyr-zWtmxmw
Day 2 (Sunday, April 3rd) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-rm8N1AA6c

Westtown - Apr 1st to Apr 3rd, 2016

Day 1 (Saturday, April 2nd) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuVMh30Je5A
Day 2 (Sunday, April 3rd) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoAiDUYiQTI

And, as usual, Team 1676 will be uploading our full-field footage of all of Bridgewater-Raritan's Qualification and Elimination Matches, as well as the Alliance Selections and Awards Ceremony, onto our YouTube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/Team1676), and I'll be updating my unofficial 2016 MAR Ranking Google Doc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qceaOJivEiD_zIZp8KLf4GpVpyW665MZhKLBKF9Wids/edit?usp=sharing) A.S.A.P.

Good luck to all!

The Lucas

01-04-2016, 13:15

First Timers
Bridgewater-Raritan
555
714
1672
1989
3314 (Already played at Waterbury NE District Week 1 and Buckeye Regional Week 3)
5895 (Rookie)
5992 (Rooke)

Looks like 6216 (Rookie) did not compete at Springside, so let's hope they make their debut at Westtown

Hallry

01-04-2016, 23:25

Link07

02-04-2016, 18:40

Congrats to 2590, who were finalists at South Florida and earned a wildcard spot to the Championship. Also congrats to 11, who won the South Florida Chairman's Award.

For those counting, that's 3 point slots deducted from MAR's overall total (1676 CA, 2590 Finalist, 11 CA)

alephzer0

02-04-2016, 21:13

It's worth noting that it appears 3637 is now registered for the World Championships via the waitlist. I don't recall whether or not this takes away from MAR's 22 World Championship slots (I don't believe it does, but don't quote me on that), nor do I remember what happens if they additionally qualify for STL by winning, earning a qualifying award, or being given a point slot at MAR Champs.

Waitlist slots do not count against MAR. As to your second question, they will still count the slots against MAR. If those teams would get points slots, we simply don't lose any slots (i.e. the bar is still set at the 22nd ranked team) but if they rank below the bar will be raised (up to possibly the 19th ranked team in this case).

DonRotolo

02-04-2016, 22:29

(I don't believe it does, but don't quote me on that)Sorry, I just cannot resist. :p

AGPapa

03-04-2016, 18:27

Well there goes week 5! With only event left before MAR Champs we should expect invites for teams with mathematical locks on a DCMP bid to go out early this week. (Last year it was Tuesday (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1464522&postcount=77)).

We (5895) had a blast at the Bridgewater-Raritan event! Congratulations to 1676, 5624 and 223 for winning! I also really liked team 25's robot, they took the already fantastic robot they had at Hatboro and added an amazing scaling mechanism.

Also congratulations to 225, 1640 and 1391 for winning Westtown. The Westtown roster looked very challenging, and I look forward to watching the webcast recording.

Finally, congratulations to 11 for winning the Chairman's Award in South Florida!

Waitlist slots do not count against MAR. As to your second question, they will still count the slots against MAR. If those teams would get points slots, we simply don't lose any slots (i.e. the bar is still set at the 22nd ranked team) but if they rank below the bar will be raised (up to possibly the 19th ranked team in this case).

I believe this is correct, but the reverse-wildcards rules are fairly arcane so I'm not sure (there may be a difference between points slots and winning/awards).

I also think it comes down to FIRST Mid-Atlantic being given discretion to give points slots to any team they want, so they can skip over waitlist teams when giving out points slots. They can't do the same for awards.

EDIT: I'm actually not sure if FIRST Mid-Atlantic can skip over waitlist teams for points slots, I thought that is what happened in 2014, but I was mistaken. There was a very complicated chain of events in 2014 that Ryan summarizes here. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1374719&postcount=131)

Jscout11

03-04-2016, 21:05

EDIT: I'm actually not sure if FIRST Mid-Atlantic can skip over waitlist teams for points slots, I thought that is what happened in 2014, but I was mistaken. There was a very complicated chain of events in 2014 that Ryan goes summarizes here. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1374719&postcount=131)

I'm not positive, but I think last year 1403 was skipped over for points slot because they already got in through the waitlist.

Brian Maher

03-04-2016, 21:43

Congratulations to the winning alliance at Bridgewater of 1676, 5624, and 223! Those were some intense finals matches; you certainly earned your banner! Congratulations to 1676 on EI and 869 on Chairman's Award. I had no idea 869 had such an impressive outreach program! A thank you to teams 25, 3340, and 555 for being a part of 1257's first ever #1 alliance!

Well there goes week 5! With only event left before MAR Champs we should expect invites for teams with mathematical locks on a DCMP bid to go out early this week. (Last year it was Tuesday (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1464522&postcount=77)).
I've put together a list of those mathematical locks. Congrats to all these awesome teams that have secured their MAR Championship qualification!

1 225
2 2590
3 1676
4 1257
5 5624
6 365
7 1218 DCA
8 11
9 25
10 193
11 708 DCA
12 1640
13 834
14 341
15 4573
16 1391
17 5404
18 1403
19 869 DCA
20 4454
21 5407
22 1626
...
37 1647 DCA
...
54 1923 DCA
...
78 321 DCA
...
It was calculated as:
55 (teams at DCMP) - 7 (DCA teams) - 19 (teams with second play remaining, excluding 1923 with their DCA) = 19, plus the Chairman's teams.

Ben Martin

04-04-2016, 09:28

Congratulations to 1676, 5624, and 223 for winning Bridgewater! I'm looking forward to watching how the competition went down.

We are looking forward to playing with many of the best New Jersey teams for the first time this year at MAR Champs. Based on the defense we saw during the playoff rounds at Westtown, the playoff rounds are going to be insane. There were 3 or 4 good low goal scoring robots with quality driving that didn't get picked.

Hallry

04-04-2016, 10:01

With week 5 in the bag, I've updated my unofficial 2016 MAR Ranking Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qceaOJivEiD_zIZp8KLf4GpVpyW665MZhKLBKF9Wids/edit?usp=sharing. I will note that it does differ from the official FIRST Rankings (http://frc-districtrankings.usfirst.org/2016/MAR) in regards to Team 225's ranking points. The official FIRST Rankings show them having a total of 145 points, while at their two districts they earned 72 and 68 points, respectively, which only adds up to 140. I've messaged the FRC Teams email about the matter. Either way, 225 is still decisively ranked first - Congrats!

Congratulations to the winning alliance at Bridgewater of 1676, 5624, and 223! Those were some intense finals matches; you certainly earned your banner! Congratulations to 1676 on EI
Congratulations to 1676, 5624 and 223 for winning!
Congratulations to 1676, 5624, and 223 for winning Bridgewater! I'm looking forward to watching how the competition went down.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! It was another crazy weekend for us and we greatly appreciate all of your support. Special thanks to 5624 and 223 for being truly amazing alliance partners - we couldn't have asked for a better elimination alliance. We've posted our full-field footage of all the 2016 Bridgewater-Raritan Qualification and Elimination Matches, as well as Alliance Selections and the Awards Ceremony, on our YouTube Channel here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUJJPXRAlETMOz23-uvGwP0QPyEFMd9D. I also just submitted all of our videos to the TBA page, so they should all appear here once they are approved: http://www.thebluealliance.com/event/2016njbri. Enjoy, and we can't wait to see everyone at MAR Champs in two weeks! Best of luck to everyone competing at the Montgomery District Event next weekend!

Ben Martin

04-04-2016, 10:19

I will note that it does differ from the official FIRST Rankings (http://frc-districtrankings.usfirst.org/2016/MAR) in regards to Team 225's ranking points. The official FIRST Rankings show them having a total of 145 points, while at their two districts they earned 72 and 68 points, respectively, which only adds up to 140. I've messaged the FRC Teams email about the matter. Either way, 225 is still decisively ranked first - Congrats!

Why would we not have 73? The playoff rules clearly state you have to "win" 2 matches to advance, and a "win" is worth 5 points. I read this as a true "tie" is only if you get to the 7th order sort.

Hallry

04-04-2016, 10:34

Why would we not have 73? The playoff rules clearly state you have to "win" 2 matches to advance, and a "win" is worth 5 points. I read this as a true "tie" is only if you get to the 7th order sort.

Ah now I see (Sorry, with being at Bridgewater this past weekend I didn't know much about what went on at Westtown). I agree with you Ben, it should be counted as a win, not a tie. I'll be sure to fix that in my Google Doc, sorry about that. It's interesting that this page of the official rankings (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR/PAWCH) doesn't credit the win, but it is taken into account in the overall ranking points (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR).

AGPapa

04-04-2016, 10:56

Ah now I see (Sorry, with being at Bridgewater this past weekend I didn't know much about what went on at Westtown). I agree with you Ben, it should be counted as a win, not a tie. I'll be sure to fix that in my Google Doc, sorry about that. It's interesting that this page of the official rankings (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR/PAWCH) doesn't credit the win, but it is taken into account in the overall ranking points (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR).

There is currently a bug in how playoff points are calculated with tiebreakers in the official rankings, so FIRST is manually adding in tiebreaker points to fix it.

You can see this adjustment at the bottom of this page (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR/225).

vmorgs

04-04-2016, 11:25

AGPapa

04-04-2016, 11:35

Our team is currently 46th so we're not a mathematical lock, especially since there's still Montgomery next weekend. So when can we expect to find out if we've made the cut for Lehigh? I would assume next Monday but is that too soon? Also, how does it work if teams make the cut but can't end up going for financial or other reasons? Do they just notify the next highest ranked team and if so when? Forgive all of the questions, but we're only in our 2nd year and I couldn't find some of these answers in the Admin Manual. Thanks!

Right after the Montgomery event ends on Sunday the top 55 teams should know that they will qualify (well, not the 55 teams by points, since there are spots for teams that won a District Chairman's award). I'm not sure when the actual invites will go out, but those teams will know that they'll receive them.

If a team declines their bid then FIRST Mid-Atlantic will try to notify the next highest ranked team as soon as they can. Those teams could decline too, so it takes a while to go down the list.

I believe that a team last year received their invitation on Thursday morning after practice matches had already started.

vmorgs

04-04-2016, 11:41

Right after the Montgomery event ends on Sunday the top 55 teams should know that they will qualify (well, not the 55 teams by points, since there are spots for teams that won a District Chairman's award). I'm not sure when the actual invites will go out, but those teams will know that they'll receive them.

If a team declines their bid then FIRST Mid-Atlantic will try to notify the next highest ranked team as soon as they can. Those teams could decline too, so it takes a while to go down the list.

I believe that a team last year received their invitation on Thursday morning after practice matches had already started.

Thanks for the reply..it was very helpful and informative! As a team ranked 46th is this even something we should be worrying about?

AGPapa

04-04-2016, 11:56

Thanks for the reply..it was very helpful and informative! As a team ranked 46th is this even something we should be worrying about?

Only a few teams will need to jump you for you to not receive one of the initial bids. Unfortunately I wouldn't say that your chances are good. If you do receive an invite it will probably be later in the week as teams decline their invitations. Luckily for you MAR teams decline their spots fairly often!

In order to stop teams from jumping you you'll want to cheer on teams this weekend that are playing for the 3rd time. These teams can't earn points and will stop other teams from earning points that they could use to jump you. You'll also want to cheer on teams that already have more points than you, since they won't be able to pass you. Additionally, you'll want teams who have won a District Chairman's award to get a lot of points since they will jump you anyway.

The teams you want to do well this weekend so you can get a MAR Champs bid are:

103 (3rd event)
433 (3rd event)
869 (3rd event)
1228 (3rd event)
1403 (3rd event)
2180 (3rd event)
3974 (3rd event)
6203 (already has more points)
1923 (Chairman's)

It seems like your team made big improvements in performance from Hatboro (when I saw you) to Westtown. I hope you qualify to Lehigh so I can see those improvements! Good luck!

vmorgs

04-04-2016, 12:59

It seems like your team made big improvements in performance from Hatboro (when I saw you) to Westtown. I hope you qualify to Lehigh so I can see those improvements! Good luck!

Thanks! After Hatboro-Horsham we abandoned our high goal shooter and focused on getting our our scimitar (scaler) working. Our programming team was a little disappointed we were ditching our high goal shooter because they spend a TON of time trying to figure out vision processing in C++ but in the end, we made the right call. Now we'll just be anxiously awaiting the results of Montgomery this weekend to see what's next for us.

The Lucas

04-04-2016, 16:58

I believe that a team last year received their invitation on Thursday morning after practice matches had already started.

Yes there was, Team 5438 the Technological Terrors. There were 3 late cancellations last year and they were the only one who could fill on day of the event (and all the way from Jersey City, New Jersey). The last 2 spots went unfilled. Here is a video queued to Rizzo telling the story:

https://youtu.be/SmqR_KuUuxQ?t=4h40m24s

I finished the last bits of that inspection while the cart was rolling to the queue. In a scheduling coincidence, they were paired with the eventual MAR Champs 316 & 225. That is 188 points you wouldn't want to miss out on. 5438 only had 41 district points last year so that gives you some feel of how few points a team can have and still have a possibility be invited to the Champs. Everyone on the bubble, make sure you have the registration fee ready in an account in case you get a late call. It was a fun story to go from registered to competing in such a short time (students were literally pulled out of classrooms), but hopefully we will not have as many late declines this year.

Ari423

06-04-2016, 17:11

Just FYI, I can now officially say that Team 3974, E=mCD, will not be attending Montgomery. Taking their place will be Team 423, the Simple Machines. We learned that there was a spot open yesterday, and we jumped on the opportunity. We are looking forward to seeing all of our friends again this weekend!

rcoren22

07-04-2016, 08:00

With week 5 in the bag, I've updated my unofficial 2016 MAR Ranking Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qceaOJivEiD_zIZp8KLf4GpVpyW665MZhKLBKF9Wids/edit?usp=sharing. I will note that it does differ from the official FIRST Rankings (http://frc-districtrankings.usfirst.org/2016/MAR) in regards to Team 225's ranking points. The official FIRST Rankings show them having a total of 145 points, while at their two districts they earned 72 and 68 points, respectively, which only adds up to 140. I've messaged the FRC Teams email about the matter. Either way, 225 is still decisively ranked first - Congrats!

Thank you, thank you, thank you! It was another crazy weekend for us and we greatly appreciate all of your support. Special thanks to 5624 and 223 for being truly amazing alliance partners - we couldn't have asked for a better elimination alliance. We've posted our full-field footage of all the 2016 Bridgewater-Raritan Qualification and Elimination Matches, as well as Alliance Selections and the Awards Ceremony, on our YouTube Channel here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUJJPXRAlETMOz23-uvGwP0QPyEFMd9D. I also just submitted all of our videos to the TBA page, so they should all appear here once they are approved: http://www.thebluealliance.com/event/2016njbri. Enjoy, and we can't wait to see everyone at MAR Champs in two weeks! Best of luck to everyone competing at the Montgomery District Event next weekend!

And Thank You, thank you, thank you!
What an incredible ride it was. Thanks to our friends at 1676 for believing in us. We have been dreaming of winning a banner with you guys for awhile and it seems that the steaks are finally on the grill! After we had some difficulties Saturday, we knew we had to come out Sunday like crazy and it seemed to work. 5624, it was great working with your team - you guys are a real fast low goal cycling bot and you were great throughout the entire elims. 1676 is absolutely a shut down d with capabilities of low goal cycles and defense breaching- triple threat.

Looking forward to running with the rest of MAR next week at Lehigh!

Hallry

09-04-2016, 12:57

It was just announced at Montgomery that the capacity of MAR Champs will be increased from 55 teams to 60 teams!

And Thank You, thank you, thank you!
What an incredible ride it was. Thanks to our friends at 1676 for believing in us. We have been dreaming of winning a banner with you guys for awhile and it seems that the steaks are finally on the grill! After we had some difficulties Saturday, we knew we had to come out Sunday like crazy and it seemed to work. 5624, it was great working with your team - you guys are a real fast low goal cycling bot and you were great throughout the entire elims. 1676 is absolutely a shut down d with capabilities of low goal cycles and defense breaching- triple threat.

Looking forward to running with the rest of MAR next week at Lehigh!

Thanks so much for the compliments. You guys certainly turned up the heat on Sunday morning, scoring 7 and 8 low goals in two qualification matches, and we were ecstatic to get you guys on our alliance. We certainly couldn't have done it without you. I hope Jack enjoys his steak. ;)

vmorgs

09-04-2016, 13:27

For those of you not at Montgomery and not live streaming it, I thought I'd let you know they just announced it will be the top 60 teams going to Lehigh instead of the top 55.

Brian Maher

10-04-2016, 13:41

For those of you not at Montgomery and not live streaming it, I thought I'd let you know they just announced it will be the top 60 teams going to Lehigh instead of the top 55.

I am happy to hear this. Going to MAR Champs can be a really inspirational experience. My team's first MAR Champs appearance in 2014 did a ton to motivate the team; it made us want to be good enough to return every year. I'm glad that five more teams will be presented with this opportunity.

Hallry

10-04-2016, 18:03

With the last District Event in the bag, here are my unofficial rankings going into MAR Champs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qceaOJivEiD_zIZp8KLf4GpVpyW665MZhKLBKF9Wids/edit?usp=sharing. Congratulations and best of luck to everyone that is a lock to compete at MAR Champs next weekend!

Ben Martin

10-04-2016, 21:50

Congratulations to 5895, 56, and 41 for winning Montgomery! I couldn't watch the stream today, so I look forward to watching the playoffs footage.

YoJoe360

10-04-2016, 22:02

Congratulations to 5895, 56, and 41 for winning Montgomery! I couldn't watch the stream today, so I look forward to watching the playoffs footage.

Thank you! It was a huge moment for all of us at 5895, and I am so grateful for this amazing team we have. Shout out to our head scout for the fantastic data which allowed us to choose our incredible alliance. And if anyone from 56 or 41 is reading, thank you for being amazing alliance mates. I am extremely excited for MAR as a rookie.

AGPapa

10-04-2016, 22:29

Congratulations to 5895, 56, and 41 for winning Montgomery! I couldn't watch the stream today, so I look forward to watching the playoffs footage.

Thanks Ben! See you at Lehigh!

It sure was a crazy weekend! I'd like to thank our fantastic alliance partners 56 and 41! They were incredible. I also need to thank our scouts for finding those teams, they really did an unbelievable job.

I also want to draw attention to an ingenious defense selection made by our finals oppenents (222, 190 and 6203). For the finals they had us face the rough terrain instead of the rock wall (which nearly all alliances pick, as the rough terrain is laughable easy to cross). Because of that, we actually hadn't run our rough terrain auto routine for the whole event (we faced the rock wall each time); finals 1 was the first time it was really tested on an actual field. That clever trick made us miss our auto shot that match (we fixed it for finals 2 though). Anyways, I just wanted to give a shoutout to an incredibly clever tactic that cost us 10 points in the finals.

I was impressed with the changes 5684 made for Montgomery. They completely remade and greatly improved their collector, and added a cdf auto routine! It's incredible that this second year team has been an alliance captain at three out of their four district events in team history.

Anyway, here are the top 60 teams that will receive invites to MAR Champs. This is going to be such a crazy event!

225 - TechFire
2590 - Nemesis
1676 - The Pascack PI-oneers
1257 - Parallel Universe
5624 - Tiger Tech
365 - Miracle Workerz
1218 - Vulcan Robotics
11 - MORT
25 - Raider Robotix
5895 - Peddie School Robotics
56 - R.O.B.B.E.
193 - MORT Beta
708 - Hatters Robotics
1640 - Sab-BOT-age
834 - SparTechs
341 - Miss Daisy
4573 - SRNJRambotics
303 - The T.E.S.T. Team
222 - Tigertrons
3637 - The Daleks
41 - RoboWarriors
1391 - The METAL MOOSE
5404 - Gearaffes
6203 - Titanium Knights Robotics
3314 - Mechanical Mustangs
1403 - Cougar Robotics
869 - PowerCord
4454 - Artisan Rockets
1089 - Team Mercury
5407 - Wolfpack Robotics
1626 - Falcon Robotics
6226 - Blue Devils
5684 - Iron Mechs
2607 - The Fighting RoboVikings
2016 - Mighty Monkey Wrenches
1811 - FRESH
75 - RoboRaiders
1923 - The MidKnight Inventors
102 - The Gearheads
223 - Xtreme Heat
4954 - Palindrome Robotics
484 - Roboforce
2559 - Normality Zero
2234 - Alternating Current
4342 - Demon Robotics
4653 - Ironmen Robotics
5666 - Purple Lightning
4750 - BERT
5113 - Combustible Lemons
1143 - Cruzin' Comets
1647 - Iron Devils
272 - Cyber-Crusaders
6016 - Tiger Robotics
423 - Simple Machines
5938 - Razor Steel Robotics
2095 - Direct Current
1989 - Viking Robotics
219 - Team Impact
5457 - Falcobots
321 - RoboLancers

If any of those teams decline the next five on the list to get in are:

5401 - Fightin' Robotic Owls
1712 - Dawgma
4575 - The Tin Mints
4637 - BambieBotz
1279 - Cold Fusion

Good luck to everyone next weekend!

ScandallB225

10-04-2016, 23:13

For those of you not at Montgomery and not live streaming it, I thought I'd let you know they just announced it will be the top 60 teams going to Lehigh instead of the top 55.

Has the schedule changed for MAR CMP? 5 more teams will add 10 matches at 12 matches per team. ~ 7 minutes per match = +35 minutes for each of Thursday and Friday evening?

Hallry

10-04-2016, 23:50

Has the schedule changed for MAR CMP? 5 more teams will add 10 matches at 12 matches per team. ~ 7 minutes per match = +35 minutes for each of Thursday and Friday evening?

10 more matches will have to be added into the schedule somewhere, and 5 more pits have to be squeezed in too

http://i.imgur.com/G460DWM.jpg

jfischer

11-04-2016, 07:48

Thank you! It was a huge moment for all of us at 5895, and I am so grateful for this amazing team we have. Shout out to our head scout for the fantastic data which allowed us to choose our incredible alliance. And if anyone from 56 or 41 is reading, thank you for being amazing alliance mates. I am extremely excited for MAR as a rookie.
A big thanks to Team 5895 for picking us as your partners. You were an amazing rookie team and great captains. You had a strong game plan which worked perfectly. It was also great to play with our friends and long time pit neighbors Team 41.

George A.

11-04-2016, 08:41

10 more matches will have to be added into the schedule somewhere, and 5 more pits have to be squeezed in too

http://i.imgur.com/G460DWM.jpg

This has been the subject of some discussion going back and forth for all volunteers. AFAIK the schedule hasn't been updated and will come out soon?

Ben Martin

11-04-2016, 09:48

Running through the numbers--it looks like for playoff rounds, it is likely that the 16th pick will be able to shoot well, scale, or just be really, really good at driving/low goaling. The field keeps getting deeper at every event as teams get better at shooting and scaling. There will be many good robots that go unpicked.

Speaking of good robots, the range from 60-67 on the rankings is loaded with teams who either improved drastically between events or got stuck multiple times on the back half of the draft. I wonder if we will see any teams decline the invitation, and some of these teams could make it in.

vmorgs

11-04-2016, 11:11

Speaking of good robots, the range from 60-67 on the rankings is loaded with teams who either improved drastically between events or got stuck multiple times on the back half of the draft. I wonder if we will see any teams decline the invitation, and some of these teams could make it in.

I'm a coach of the 60th team and this is KILLING me! Do teams typically decline their invitations? This is my first year as a coach so have no frame of reference.

George A.

11-04-2016, 11:18

I'm a coach of the 60th team and this is KILLING me! Do teams typically decline their invitations? This is my first year as a coach so have no frame of reference.

Last year several teams declined to the point where there were 55 slots available but only 53 teams competed.

A combination of the short notice, the back to back weeks, the registration cost, or maybe qualified for Championships from another avenue (Regional award/win etc).

So if you are 60th in the rankings I would at least start making plans (getting registration fees together, getting a bus reserved, and students getting prepared) in the event that you receive the call.

M.O'Reilly

11-04-2016, 12:06

Hm, the FIRST website was updated this morning to list the 60 registered teams for the MAR Championship.

Can't imagine it's completely accurate though, since two of the teams are not actually MAR teams (1671 and 4594). Perhaps typos? Looks like 1676 is a qualifier but not listed as registered.

http://www.firstinspires.org/team-event-search/event?id=17365

Hallry

11-04-2016, 12:34

Ben Martin

11-04-2016, 12:38

Kristian Calhoun

11-04-2016, 14:17

Anyway, here are the top 60 teams that will receive invites to MAR Champs. This is going to be such a crazy event!

<snip>

Good luck to everyone next weekend!
I compiled each team's highest OPR from all of their regional/district events for fun. An asterisk * denotes data from the week 6 Montgomery event was not included for that team.

Team # Highest OPR
225 59.2
25 56
869 50.86
2590 49.4
1640 49
5895 44.2
303 44.2*
1143 44
11 42.3
1257 42.1
2016 42
3314 41.16
341 40.9
365 40.8
708 40.5
193 40
3637 38.9*
1989 38.72
5404 38.5
56 38.36
222 38.35
4954 37.6
1089 37.28
4573 36.8
4653 35.9
1626 35.8
5624 34.9
1923 34.7*
4454 34.6
1218 34.5
1811 34.2
1391 34.1
1403 33.8*
484 33.5
102 33*
5113 33
834 32.8
75 32.5
1676 32.3
41 31.5
2607 31
321 30.8
4342 30.5
2095 29.7
219 29.4
2559 29
423 28.7
5407 28
2234 28
4750 27.9*
6226 27.7
272 27*
5938 26.3
223 26.2
5684 25.8*
1647 23.4
5457 22.8
6016 22.2
5666 20.5
6203 20

Hallry

11-04-2016, 18:01

It looks like the updated MAR Champs schedule (http://www.midatlanticrobotics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2016_MARChamps_Schedule_Updated_60_Teams.pdf) and event packet (http://www.midatlanticrobotics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2016_MARChampsTeamVisitorInformationGuide_Updated_ 60_Teams1.pdf) have been released. With the 5 additional teams added in, Practice Matches will now end at 12pm on Thursday, with the Driver's Meeting happening at 1pm and Qualification Matches running from 2pm to 5:30pm.

5 additional pits have been added to the arena layout, and they have also gotten rid of the Chairman's displays in the main lobby: http://i.imgur.com/320Rp1w.jpg

AGPapa

11-04-2016, 18:17

I'm a coach of the 60th team and this is KILLING me! Do teams typically decline their invitations? This is my first year as a coach so have no frame of reference.

Congrats on qualifying! The official rankings (http://frc-districtrankings.usfirst.org/2016/MAR) show that both 6226 and 219 have declined their invitations, and 5401 and 1712 are now qualified. Can't wait to see both teams there!

DonRotolo

11-04-2016, 19:34

I hope Jack enjoys his steak. ;)Uh, I'm in on that too, I'll have you know...

Worth a plane ticket for a free steak.

rcoren22

11-04-2016, 20:24

Uh, I'm in on that too, I'll have you know...

Worth a plane ticket for a free steak.

I really hope so!

Jscout11

11-04-2016, 21:29

Didn't see it mentioned here but I saw in the waitlist thread that 5404 is now registered for CMP.

Also, good luck to everyone this weekend! Wish I could be there.

vmorgs

11-04-2016, 22:41

Congrats on qualifying! The official rankings (http://frc-districtrankings.usfirst.org/2016/MAR) show that both 6226 and 219 have declined their invitations, and 5401 and 1712 are now qualified. Can't wait to see both teams there!

Thanks! We found out in the middle of our team meeting tonight and the kids are REALLY excited! See you at Lehigh!

Hallry

13-04-2016, 12:49

Oddly it looks like they took off the MAR Champs "Qualifying" label from all teams on the ranking site here: http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR; don't know what that's about. Also, only 55 teams are shown as registered here: http://www.firstinspires.org/team-event-search/event?id=17365 (is this due to the fact that only 55 teams were scheduled to compete originally rather than 60?). There must have been one additional decline besides 6226 and 219, because 4575 (the 62nd ranked team) is now shown as registered. Anyone know of any other declines? Only 3 declines this year is nothing when compared to last year's 13 DCMP declines.

I'll be doing my best to live update my 2016 Unofficial MAR Ranking sheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qceaOJivEiD_zIZp8KLf4GpVpyW665MZhKLBKF9Wids/edit?usp=sharing) at MAR Champs. Assuming no wifi, it'll be done offline on my own computer rather than on Google Docs. Feel free to find me anytime on Saturday afternoon to see how your World Champs prospects look (or feel free to download the Google Doc as an Excel file beforehand and work the numbers for yourself). Best of luck to everyone competing, and see you all at Lehigh tomorrow!

Kristian Calhoun

13-04-2016, 12:55

Oddly it looks like they took off the MAR Champs "Qualifying" label from all teams on the ranking site here: http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR; don't know what that's about. Also, only 55 teams are shown as registered here: http://www.firstinspires.org/team-event-search/event?id=17365 (is this due to the fact that only 55 teams were scheduled to compete originally rather than 60?). Anyone know if there were any other declines other than 6226 and 219? Only 2 declines this year is nothing when compared to last year's 13 DCMP declines.

Previously the top 60 teams were listed on FIRST's site. The number dropped to 55 after they removed some of the declined teams and fixed the 1671/1676 and 4594/4954 mixups. 4637 posted (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/43685?) they're attending MAR Champs, but are not yet listed on the official site. I suspect there may be a few other teams added last minute.

Hallry

13-04-2016, 13:02

The teams that have qualified but are not yet listed as registered are:

41. 4954
44. 2344
56. 2095
59. 5457
60. 5401
61. 1712

alephzer0

13-04-2016, 13:50

Oddly it looks like they took off the MAR Champs "Qualifying" label from all teams on the ranking site here: http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR; don't know what that's about.

This is also the case for all the other districts with week 7 DCMP events. I assume it's because the event is technically in progress (the "start date" is listed as today rather than tomorrow).

Lil' Lavery

13-04-2016, 14:58

The teams that have qualified but are not yet listed as registered are:

41. 4954
44. 2344
56. 2095
59. 5457
60. 5401
61. 1712

1712 has paid our registration and is looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow morning.

Hallry

15-04-2016, 06:23

All of our MAR Champs Day 1 footage has now been uploaded to our channel (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUJJPXRAlERID8zm9DgwLB8Te-nnTMwe) and submitted to TBA (http://www.thebluealliance.com/event/2016mrcmp)! Enjoy!

Hallry

15-04-2016, 13:47

It looks like three more MAR teams got off the wait list for Wold Champs (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1573508#post1573508). Congrats to 303, 423, and 433!

Foster

16-04-2016, 16:27

What was going on during the MAR District Champs with the Blue Alliance connections? Most of the elims were delayed while they worked on a Blue Robot? 1640 was dead during their SF1-1 match.

AGPapa

16-04-2016, 20:36

Congratulations to 225, 341 and 1257 for winning MAR Champs! What a crazy event.
Team 225 really earned that first seed spot and the event win; such an incredible machine. I can't wait to see how well they do in St. Louis.

MAR is sending 30 teams to St. Louis this year, and here they are (in order of ranking):

225: MAR CMP Winner
341: MAR CMP Winner
25: Points
3314: Points
5895: Points
1257: MAR CMP Winner
2590: South Florida Wildcard
1218: MAR CMP EI
708: Points
1089: Points
56: Points
1640: Points
365: HoF
869: Points
1391: Points
41: Points
1712: Points
5401: Points
1676: Buckeye Chairman's/MAR CMP EI
1403: Points
303: Waitlist
11: South Florida Chairman's
5404: Waitlist
1923: MAR CMP Chairman's
3637: Waitlist
321: MAR CMP Chairman's
6016: MAR CMP RAS
423: Waitlist
103: HoF
433: Waitlist

This list could change if MAR teams decline their spots or if more waitlist spots are given to MAR teams.

Hallry

17-04-2016, 16:19

Huge congrats to 225, 341, and 1257 for winning, 3314, 25, and 1089 for an incredible finalist showing, Rookie All-Stars 6016, 1218 for Engineering Inspiration, and 321 and 1923 for well-deserved Chairman's awards. Thanks so so much to 3314 for lending us a spare output shaft after ours spectacularly snapped (http://i.imgur.com/OzaJnvD.jpg) in (http://i.imgur.com/oJltEAB.jpg) half (http://i.imgur.com/AutoB70.jpg) in our penultimate qualification match, causing us to sit out for our last (it was fixed in time for eliminations, but I guess that was for naught :rolleyes:). And, thanks to all the volunteers for putting on another excellent event.

It was great to see and compete with so many good friends once more. 1676 is proud to again represent the MAR region at World Champs next week.

Here are the final district ranking point counts according to my unofficial Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qceaOJivEiD_zIZp8KLf4GpVpyW665MZhKLBKF9Wids/edit?usp=sharing. Hope some people found it useful over the season.

Lastly, here is all of 1676's full-field footage of the Qualification and Elimination Matches, Alliance Selections, and Awards Ceremony from this weekend: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUJJPXRAlERID8zm9DgwLB8Te-nnTMwe. It looks like we accidentally missed recording Qualification Match 51; my apologies to the teams in that match.

We can't wait to see some of you in St. Louis, and the rest at some off-seasons and next year! Best of luck to all!

alephzer0

17-04-2016, 16:51

Ben Martin

17-04-2016, 17:32

225 had another great MAR Champs -- we want to give a big thanks to all the MAR event staff for putting it on.

Thanks to 341 and 1257 for joining our alliance! We really couldn't have accomplished it without both of these teams-- 341 covered everything offensively when we experienced technical issues, and 1257 covered everything on the defensive end of things.

Congrats to 321 and 1923 on your Chairman's Awards!

scottandme

17-04-2016, 17:40

I updated the MAR All-Time Standings - see the link below

MAR All-Time Standings (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s087OqNmn4xS_coJCsqX8bFfSPTKDocORiikkBvkXiE/edit?usp=sharing)

Couple fun observations after 5 seasons of district play in the region.

1305: MAR Points accrued by the 1st place team (2590)
364: Single season MAR Points record (225)
139: Unique teams who have competed in a MAR season
99: Unique teams who have competed at MAR Champs
59: Unique teams who have attended World Champs
10: Teams who have won a MAR Championship (11, 25, 203, 225, 316, 341, 1257, 1640, 2590, 2729)
5: Teams who have made the elimination rounds at every MAR Champs event (56, 1089, 1218, 1640, 2590)
4:Repeat MAR Champions (225 - 2x, 341 - 3x, 1640 - 2x, 2590 - 2x)

Ben Martin

17-04-2016, 18:05

1305: MAR Points accrued by the 1st place team (2590)
364: Single season MAR Points record (225)
139: Unique teams who have competed in a MAR season
99: Unique teams who have competed at MAR Champs
59: Unique teams who have attended World Champs
10: Teams who have won a MAR Championship (11, 25, 203, 225, 316, 341, 1257, 1640, 2590, 2729)
5: Teams who have made the elimination rounds at every MAR Champs event (56, 1089, 1218, 1640, 2590)
4:Repeat MAR Champions (225 - 2x, 341 - 3x, 1640 - 2x, 2590 - 2x)

Also interesting--341 has never lost a MAR Champs that they attended

Deetman

17-04-2016, 21:23

The official match videos from the event are in the process of being uploaded now. The playlist they are being added to is here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIIiligkELGOxBk2l1ai7MVp4NnXSkHqW

All playoff matches are now up, the rest will come as they get uploaded.

Hallry

18-04-2016, 10:19

Looks like 1403 has officially declined their invitation to World Champs (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR). Their point slot has been passed on to 1143 (congrats!).

AGPapa

18-04-2016, 12:27

Team 56 also declined their Championship invitation, so now 193 is qualified! (http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2016/MAR)

We've worked with 56 twice this year (at Montgomery and Lehigh), and they were fantastic alliance partners. It's a shame that they can't make it to St. Louis, but 193 is also a very deserving team and it'll be great to have them at Champs.

Jscout11

18-04-2016, 12:53

...so now 193 is qualified!

Really glad to see this. I'm sure the team is absolutely ecstatic about the opportunity.

vmorgs

18-04-2016, 15:39

If my team was interested in splitting a bus to FIRST Championship with another team from MAR, how would we go about doing that?

Ben Martin

18-04-2016, 15:44

If my team was interested in splitting a bus to FIRST Championship with another team from MAR, how would we go about doing that?

When we were in this situation 2 years ago, we contacted MAR leadership (either FSMs or the MAR board) to get contacts, then started blasting emails to see how many seats everyone needed. We were the POC for the bus company. I think we ended up with members of four teams on one bus.

Now we fly, since it was a ton of pain/effort.

M.O'Reilly

19-04-2016, 12:49

A little late to the party here, but the BambieBotz had a fantastic time at our first MAR champs, and we will definitely carry some lessons-learned and inspiration into next year.

Personally, I was extremely pleased to see 225, 341, and 1257 win the competition. As always, congratulations are in order for all of the MAR award winners, but I want to point out that this alliance was a very special one to 4637. Each of these teams provided the BambieBotz with fabricated or COTS parts for our robot:

225: a milled hex hub for our ball intake at the SCH district.
341: A pair of orange hooks for our climber after we fell off the bar at the end of the match (we didn't end up using them, but the gesture was generous).
1257: manufactured the extra long toughbox mini output shafts for us when AndyMark was completely out of stock.

Each of these three teams were an important part of why our season was our most successful one yet. I hope their selfless attitudes continue to permeate through MAR in years to come.

Congratulations to Tech Fire, Miss Daisy, and Parallel Universe, and thank you for setting a good example for our team.

Lil' Lavery

19-04-2016, 13:34

1712 had one heck of a season in MAR, and now that I've gained some portion of the energy this season took out of me back, I figured I'd thank some of the many many teams and individuals that helped us out this season.

First off, the volunteer crew at MAR Champs was nothing short of outstanding. I believe we were ahead of schedule for almost all of qualifications, despite cutting a minute off the cycle times. Very few connections issues. Special congratulations to the event manager, Eric Zygmont, on his Volunteer of the Year Award. He definitely falls into the "huh, what? They haven't already won that!?!" category of award winner.

The teams were once again incredible, all season long. We received numerous parts and tools from teams at every event we went to. There's honestly too many to name here. In particular, special thanks to 225, 708, 1403, and 4342 for helping us with some parts at ideal moments throughout the season. And thanks to all the teams who expressed concern and offered aid to us after our robot crawled on his back during QF3-3, and ended up with smoking BAG motors. The outpouring of support to get our robot back on its feet was truly incredible.

To all our alliance partners, thanks again. Every one of you was a pleasure to work with, and we formed some pretty potent alliances along the way. I believe 103 and 1403 is the only teams we've been paired with in eliminations before, so it was a treat getting to work with new teams. In particular, 4342 and 708 are teams we've faced off on the other side of the glass with in the past, so finally getting to be on the same alliance was awesome. It's a pity that both of you ended up having some drivetrain issues, but watching 708 rebuild an entire drive module in roughly 15 minutes was awe inspiring. Special shoutout to Cougar Robotics as well, as they were a class act partner, willing to cooperate and pitching in with anything we needed to keep pushing further. Thanks to all of 4637, 103, 4342, 1218, 316, 708, and 1403!!

To the many "opponents" we faced in qualifications and eliminations, what a season it has been. So many great matches. I have nothing negative to say about any of our elimination opponents all season long. It was a litany of teams that I have tremendous respect for. 1143, thanks for a pair of real hard fought quarter-finals sets, in both Westtown and MAR Champs. The defense we played against you was born purely out of respect for the scores you could put up if we left you unchallenged. 75, no hard feelings towards you for the flip. Things happen quickly in the heat of competition, and its awfully hard to know exactly what's happening on the far side of the field (especially in this game). 5401 you guys really proved that you were an excellent scoring machine. Even with our defense against 1143 and 75, your alliance was able to pretty easily capture the tower thanks to your low goal prowess. I hope everything was okay with your machine after you fell off the bar in the first QF match. All in all, a red card is not the way 1712 hoped to win. We have nothing but respect towards all of your teams.

Hallry

19-04-2016, 14:33

It looks like both 5624 (http://www.firstinspires.org/team-event-search/team?id=362405) and 1989 (http://www.firstinspires.org/team-event-search/team?id=358329) are now registered for World Champs. Don't know if either got in via waitlist or by MAR declines, since they were the next highest ranked teams after MAR Champs. Either way, very glad to see them both qualified, especially 5624, our winning alliance partners at both Mt. Olive and Bridgewater this year (and 1989 has a great bot as well!)

Hallry

20-04-2016, 19:28

Brian Maher

21-04-2016, 12:14

Looks like 1989 has since dropped.

They have been replaced with 834. I am happy to see them make it; with how many low goals they can do, their not being picked at MAR Champs caught me by surprise.

Hallry

22-04-2016, 10:24

It looks like 272 has now qualified for World Champs via the waitlist: http://www.firstinspires.org/team-event-search/team?id=357169

Brian Maher

22-04-2016, 12:52

It looks like both 5624 (http://www.firstinspires.org/team-event-search/team?id=362405) and 1989 (http://www.firstinspires.org/team-event-search/team?id=358329) are now registered for World Champs. Don't know if either got in via waitlist or by MAR declines, since they were the next highest ranked teams after MAR Champs.

I've gotten confirmation from 5624 that they received a points spot. The fact that 834 got in after 1989 was removed from the list suggests that 1989 and 834 also made it on points.

Hallry

22-04-2016, 13:09

I've gotten confirmation from 5624 that they received a points spot. The fact that 834 got in after 1989 was removed from the list suggests that 1989 and 834 also made it on points.

Super pumped that 5624 is qualified for Worlds after winning two district events this year.

I figured that they, 1989, and 834 had all qualified via MAR point slots, since it would be too much of a coincidence for all three of them to get in off the waitlist. So the question is then, which two teams declined to give 5624 and 1989 (now 834) point slots besides 56 and 1403? It would be nice if the official ranking site was updated (http://frc-districtrankings.usfirst.org/2016/MAR)...

AGPapa

22-04-2016, 20:07

Here is which division everyone will be playing in:

1257 Archimedes
1391 Archimedes
5401 Archimedes
5624 Archimedes
5404 Archimedes
1923 Archimedes

225 Carson
5895 Carson
2590 Carson
41 Carson
11 Carson

834 Carver

25 Curie
1089 Curie
321 Curie
6016 Curie

341 Galileo
365 Galileo
3637 Galileo

1218 Hopper
869 Hopper
1712 Hopper
193 Hopper
303 Hopper

3314 Newton
708 Newton
1640 Newton
1676 Newton
1143 Newton
103 Newton

272 Tesla
423 Tesla
433 Tesla

Jscout11

22-04-2016, 20:26

Hallry

22-04-2016, 20:31

Dang, beat me to it :p

Ditto :rolleyes:

DonRotolo

23-04-2016, 08:46

C'mon you guys, you're like a half hour behind here!
Maybe you're slipping in your old age...

(Fair excuse: I was on an airplane when all three of you made your posts...)

AGPapa

29-04-2016, 19:48

Qualification matches are all wrapped up, and here's how everybody did. MAR teams make up 3 of the top 4 spots on Carson! Pretty impressive.

1257 #10 6-3-1 Archimedes
1391 #19 7-3-0 Archimedes
5401 #50 3-7-0 Archimedes
5624 #31 5-5-0 Archimedes
5404 #74 1-9-0 Archimedes
1923 #36 5-5-0 Archimedes

225 #3 8-2-0 Carson
5895 #4 8-2-0 Carson
2590 #2 8-2-0 Carson
41 #15 7-3-0 Carson
11 #57 3-7-0 Carson

834 #14 6-4-0 Carver

25 #3 8-2-0 Curie
1089 #2 8-2-0 Curie
321 #30 5-5-0 Curie
6016 #56 3-7-0 Curie

341 #6 9-1-0 Galileo
365 #3 8-1-1 Galileo
3637 #33 4-6-0 Galileo

1218 #62 3-7-0 Hopper
869 #40 6-4-0 Hopper
1712 #8 7-3-0 Hopper
193 #45 4-5-1 Hopper
303 #6 7-3-0 Hopper

3314 #26 5-5-0 Newton
708 #19 6-4-0 Newton
1640 #17 6-4-0 Newton
1676 #18 6-4-0 Newton
1143 #61 2-8-0 Newton
103 #66 2-8-0 Newton

272 #20 5-5-0 Tesla
423 #36 4-6-0 Tesla
433 #59 4-6-0 Tesla

AGPapa

30-04-2016, 09:48

Here's how alliance selection went for everyone.

1257 Backup for Alliance 2 Archimedes
1391 Not picked Archimedes
5401 Backup for Alliance 4 Archimedes
5624 Not picked Archimedes
5404 Not picked Archimedes
1923 Backup for Alliance 6 Archimedes

225 First pick of Alliance 2 Carson
5895 Captain of Alliance 3 Carson
2590 Captain of Alliance 2 Carson
41 Backup for Alliance 4 Carson
11 Backup for Alliance 2 Carson

834 Not picked Carver

25 Captain of Alliance 3 Curie
1089 Captain of Alliance 2 Curie
321 Not picked Curie
6016 Not picked Curie

341 First pick of Alliance 2 Galileo
365 Captain of Alliance 3 Galileo
3637 Not picked Galileo

1218 Not picked Hopper
869 First pick of Alliance 6 Hopper
1712 Captain of Alliance 6 Hopper
193 Second pick of Alliance 3 Hopper
303 Captain of Alliance 5 Hopper

3314 Second pick of Alliance 8 Newton
708 Backup for Alliance 1 Newton
1640 Second pick of Alliance 5 Newton
1676 Backup for Alliance 2 Newton
1143 Not picked Newton
103 Not picked Newton

272 Not picked Tesla
423 Not picked Tesla
433 Not picked Tesla

Jscout11

30-04-2016, 10:13

Here's how alliance selection went for everyone.

1257 Backup for Alliance 2 Archimedes
1391 Not picked Archimedes
5401 Backup for Alliance 4 Archimedes
5624 Not picked Archimedes
5404 Not picked Archimedes
1923 Backup for Alliance 6 Archimedes

225 First pick of Alliance 2 Carson
5895 Captain of Alliance 3 Carson
2590 Captain of Alliance 2 Carson
41 Backup for Alliance 4 Carson
11 Backup for Alliance 2 Carson

834 Not picked Carver

25 Captain of Alliance 3 Curie
1089 Captain of Alliance 2 Curie
321 Not picked Curie
6016 Not picked Curie

341 First pick of Alliance 2 Galileo
365 Captain of Alliance 3 Galileo
3637 Not picked Galileo

1218 Not picked Hopper
869 First pick of Alliance 6 Hopper
1712 Captain of Alliance 6 Hopper
193 Second pick of Alliance 6 Hopper
303 Captain of Alliance 5 Hopper

3314 Second pick of Alliance 1 Newton
708 Backup for Alliance 1 Newton
1640 Second pick of Alliance 4 Newton
1676 Backup for Alliance 2 Newton
1143 Not picked Newton
103 Not picked Newton

272 Not picked Tesla
423 Not picked Tesla
433 Not picked Tesla

Small correction, 193 was the second pick for alliance 3 on Hopper

Brian Maher

30-04-2016, 10:17

AGPapa

30-04-2016, 10:18

Small correction, 193 was the second pick for alliance 3 on Hopper

Ah thanks, it was automated and it turns out I got every "second pick" backwards. Fixing now.

EDIT:

Here's another way to look at alliance selections. MAR teams are bolded.

Archimedes
1501 1986 5050 4828
4003 4564 5842 1257
3166 180 3211 999
2064 4039 2338 5401
1747 1768 107 207
4103 1318 1310 1923
45 1540 1671 236
3534 3098 2637 4911

Carson
973 610 2474 319
2590 225 2067 11
5895 1024 233 3688
2122 2052 3538 41
1718 1918 135 4362
2137 868 1625 1369
1619 525 4028 3352
4264 3824 2771 5572

Curie
3546 166 858 3618
1089 1983 4469 836
25 2848 4329 1885
5803 3310 2168 5940
5406 3641 1261 2883
639 3990 1662 287
3005 876 2557 4061
694 3339 379 1511

Galileo
195 987 1197 1065
3683 341 2383 4525
365 1124 870 68
3539 175 4009 623
5813 2468 1153 2907
558 494 2502 4740
333 1023 5448 6175
2987 245 176 2642

Hopper
148 1678 364 2990
1425 1538 2046 2471
971 1323 193 5254
4334 294 2013 1732
303 4587 1796 4085
1712 869 1730 1736
346 4967 1011 172
231 4920 3604 70

Newton
1241 254 1731 708
1519 118 3309 1676
67 5172 1477 3481
179 3620 3937 3360
5150 125 1640 48
4001 16 2614 1296
217 3476 4678 188
1418 229 3314 3663

Purpose

30-04-2016, 17:30

I'm really amazed by the MAR showing this year! Seven alliance captains!

I'm really shocked by the under-valuation of low goals on Archimedes. 5624 and 1391 played phenomenally in qualifications, running the fast low goal cyles that brought them success at their MAR district events. They were high on our pick list (we were ranked #10), and it's a shame they won't be on the field today.

I wish all the other MAR teams playing today the best of luck!!

It wasn't just Archimedes haha, we were ranked 14th and got passed up, and I think our performance was the strongest it's been this year. We pulled off quite a few upsets and our position 3 and 5 low goal autos were consistent the first time in ever. Oh well, that's how it goes. I believe it's because alliance captains wanted to go all in, win the division or nothing, and they realized low goals weren't enough to do that. It's a little disheartening, especially to see teams miss captures because they chose to run two high bots and a defense instead of one low goaler and one high goaler, but I can see why the choice was made.