Predictions for Season High Score

[swaxman12345]

So after seeing the week one and two events, it seems that scoring this year is much higher than last year's game. I'd like to see what people think will be the high scores for this season. So far it's 210 at Central Valley I think, but high 180s seems to be the general trend for champs.

I'm prediction at least 250 at Einstein Field.

P.S. I was going to do a poll, but then decided that they were overrated.

[Boltman]

So after seeing the week one and two events, it seems that scoring this year is much higher than last year's game. I'd like to see what people think will be the high scores for this season. So far it's 210 at Central Valley I think, but high 180s seems to be the general trend for champs.

I'm prediction at least 250 at Einstein Field.

P.S. I was going to do a poll, but then decided that they were overrated.

Auto: 60 (1 cross, 30 point 2 ball, cross + HG)
Tele: 45 (Breach Capture) HG to -9 strength= 70 Def=50
End: 45

Total prediction= 270

[IronicDeadBird]

The highest score so far has been made when a robot has shot a boulder into the high goal...

Also, maybe 286
Odds are I'm wrong but if I'm right it will all be worth it.

[RoboChair]

Autonomous
Crossed: 30 points
High Goal: 30-40 points(3 high goals with a slim chance of 4)

Tele-Op Period
Defenses: 25 additional points from crossing 35 if someone comes up with a wicked easy Class C mechanism(low probability)
High Goal: 100 points from 20 Boulders scored
Scale: 30 points
Challenge: 5 points
Breach: 20 points
Capture: 25 points

Point Total 265(285 under unlikely circumstances)

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Auto-70 including 3 crosses and four high goal shots
Defenses-55 points including breach
High Goals-100 (20 shots)
Low Goals-6 (3 shots)
Scale-45
Capture-25

[Nathan Streeter]

I'm going to guess 260 for the highest score without fouls... My assumptions are identical to Devin's, but with a little less ball scoring and the potential for a 4th auto ball or Class C defenses.

Autonomous
Crossed: 30 points
High Goal: 30-40 points(3 high goals with a slim chance of 4)

Tele-Op Period
Defenses: 25 additional points from crossing 35 if someone comes up with a wicked easy Class C mechanism(low probability)
High Goal: 100 points from 20 Boulders scored
Scale: 30 points
Challenge: 5 points
Breach: 20 points
Capture: 25 points

Point Total 265

[MooreteP]

I'm prediction at least 250 at Einstein Field.

Or 257 at the NEDCMP

Autonomous
Crossed: 30 points
High Goal: 30-40 points(3 high goals with a slim chance of 4)
Not that slim anymore with 195 CyberKnights in the Two-Ball Autonomous club.

Tele-Op Period
Defenses: 25 additional points from crossing 35 if someone comes up with a wicked easy Class C mechanism(low probability)
High Goal: 100 points from 20 Boulders scored
Scale: 30 points
Challenge: 5 points
Breach: 20 points
Capture: 25 points

Point Total 265(285 under unlikely circumstances)

Very close. 257....so far, with 202 in tele-op

Auto-70 including 3 crosses and four high goal shots
Defenses-55 points including breach
High Goals-100 (20 shots)
Low Goals-6 (3 shots)
Scale-45
Capture-25
21 High Goals.

I'm going to guess 260 for the highest score without fouls... My assumptions are identical to Devin's, but with a little less ball scoring and the potential for a 4th auto ball or Class C defenses.
How prescient. Mayhem missed it by only 3.

[M217]

How prescient. Mayhem missed it by only 3.

Actually by 8, since the post you quoted specified without fouls.

[chrisfl]

After watching NE champs. I bet there will be a few matches that exceed 300. More teams will have cheesecaked climbers and autonomous shots. I think there will be matches that have all offensive strategy where each robot scores 8+ high shots and all 3 bots climb.

[Jcarbon]

35 if someone comes up with a wicked easy Class C mechanism(low probability)


Interestingly, 27 takes down the drawbridge very quickly, and used this very well during MSC playoffs to get some very high scores. When matches are decided by a few extra high goals or an extra hang, 10 extra defense points from not ignoring Category C are very helpful.

[BrennanB]

After watching NE champs. I bet there will be a few matches that exceed 300.

Nobody will break 300 this season. :)

[EmileH]

Defenses: 25 additional points from crossing 35 if someone comes up with a wicked easy Class C mechanism(low probability)


Check out 4678. Their Sally Port/Drawbridge mechanism isn't that different from other teams' but the software makes all the difference:

http://watchfirstnow.com/archives/162638135

[Rypsnort]

Nobody will break 300 this season. :)

I only agree with this because when we finally get to the matches where this would be possible (as in Einstein or high powered "world class" alliances) there will be more defense. Teams will realize their only shot at winning is slowing the other team down. If defense was not a factor *cough 2015* then there would be plenty of scores over 300.

[Citrus Dad]

I predicted 270 early in the build season, and I think it will be between 270 and 280 based on the scores last weekend. Probably will be in the subdivision QFs or SFs when the top seeded start getting cranked up. Then defenses will kick in and scores will drop.

[Richard Wallace]

I predicted 270 early in the build season, and I think it will be between 270 and 280 based on the scores last weekend. Probably will be in the subdivision QFs or SFs when the top seeded start getting cranked up. Then defenses will kick in and scores will drop.

60 pt auton. 20 teleop high goals. Breach, double tap Sally, capture, triple scale. No defense, no fouls.

That makes 285. I think it will happen in a stacked CMP quarterfinal match.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

The current high score of 257 will stand through champs.

[EmileH]

60 pt auton. 20 teleop high goals. Breach, double tap Sally, capture, triple scale. No defense, no fouls.

That makes 285. I think it will happen in a stacked CMP qualification match.

At NE Champs, the #2 seed alliance of 195, 125 and 2168 had multiple runs with a 70 point auto due to 195's two ball capability. I doubt there would be a triple scale in a qual match, but it depends how much teams change between now and Champs.

[Chris is me]

The current high score of 257 will stand through champs.

Agreed. It took a complete lack of presence in the secret passage for 257 to happen, and that quite simply will never happen again. Not to mention an alliance with the quality and depth to find three very proficient high goal shooters like that.

[sysdes]

Check out 4678. Their Sally Port/Drawbridge mechanism isn't that different from other teams' but the software makes all the difference:

http://watchfirstnow.com/archives/162638135

Very true. The programming of our sally port and draw bridge crossing is actually based on the code that 254 posted on their impressive, smooth and precise drive train motion control. We studied how they managed fairly complex motion like their auto in 2014 that allowed them to park up against the low goal before tossing the ball into the target to guarantee they couldn't be defended against.

Thanks to their willingness to share how they did it, we came to realize that the motion control profiles they described did not need to be restricted to just the drive train motors. Our Sally Port and Drawbridge crossings are pretty much automatic (in teleop, the operator just has to hold down a button as the programming goes through the motions). We use a system similar to their drive train motion profiling but we add in the 2 axes of our arm to go along with the motion of the drive train. To program the motion, we took our robot and placed it in front the defense. We manually put the arm into the starting position, recorded the encoder values and then moved the arm to what appeared to be a good "next position". We did this several times and recorded encoder values of the arm and the drive train encoders until we had moved the robot completely through the defense. Then we created code that would interpolate the encoder positions based on time and we just feed new position values to the Talon SRXs for the arm joints and do a similar position control of the drive train (using Victor SP's) at approximately 50 times per second. There are plenty of videos of the results.

Thanks again to team 254 for sharing their valuable insights (and code) on how to get the most out of the robots we build.

[evanperryg]

Our HP's prediction- the Einstein finalist alliance will set the high score in division semis.

My prediction- 257 will remain the world high score until IRI.

Lead qualitative scout- 272 in Einstein semis.

[Citrus Dad]

This (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1574843&postcount=14)

And this. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1531723&postcount=12)

:rolleyes:

[RoboChair]

World High Scores

With 25 Foul Points (Carver QF3-2)
275 (250 without)
Teams 330, 120, 2481, 1086
Auto High Goal x2: 20pts
Auto Cross x3: 30pts
TeleOp Cross x5: 25pts
TeleOp High x19: 95pts
Scale x2: 30pts
Challenge x1: 5pts
Breach: 20pts
Capture: 25pts
Fouls: 25pts

Win Margin: 120pts


NO Fouls High Score (Hopper QF1-2)
270
Teams 148, 1678, 364, 2990
Auto High Goal x3: 30pts
Auto Cross x3: 30pts
TeleOp Cross x5: 25pts
TeleOp High x21: 105pts
Scale x2: 30pts
Challenge x1: 5pts
Breach: 20pts
Capture: 25pts

Win Margin: 140pts


World Combined High Score
480 Points (440 without)
Teams 148, 1678, 364, 2990 vs 4334, 294, 2013, 1732
Auto High Goal x3: 30pts
Auto Cross x6: 60pts
TeleOp Cross x10: 50pts
TeleOp High x32: 160pts
Scale x2: 30pts
Challenge x4: 20pts
Breach x2: 40pts
Capture x2: 50pts
Fouls: 40pts

Win Margin: 40pts