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TheBoulderite
28-03-2016, 16:38
Does anyone know what the current record is for the final strength of the tower at the end of a match? If you don't know, what is the lowest you've seen the tower? I'm just curious, as I have not seen every match of every event.
The lowest I've seen happened on Saturday at the Colorado Regional.
Colorado Regional Finals 2 (1619, 1011, 4550):
Final Tower Strength: -10
Autonomous: 1
Teleop: 17
SteveGPage
28-03-2016, 16:51
I'm sure there are lower tower strength's out there, but since I've only been focusing on the CHS District, I believe this is the lowest in our district:
Central Maryland - Chesapeake District Event. Qualification Match 45
Final Tower Strength: -6
AM: 1 Boulder
TO: 13 Boulders
Source: http://frc-events.firstinspires.org/2016/MDEDG/qualifications/45
Median240
28-03-2016, 16:56
Team 1305 along with 1241 and 1285 managed a - 7 tower score. 1 ball in auto and 14 in teleop.
Tech Valley Qual 49
Red alliance 359 3624 5254. (1 high in auto, 11 high in teleop, 4 low in teleop).
Tower Strength at -8.
Lowest I can recall, but I haven't seen every match either.
Edit: Oh, wow, -10. Wow. Even if 8 of them were low, that's... impressive as heck.
RonAyyyyyyyy
28-03-2016, 17:27
In qual 66 at Iowa, 5172, 1775, & 2164 also managed a -8 score. I thought that was the lowest it's gotten, but -10 is insane, kudos.
WPI District Semi 2-2
-9
14 -2's
3-5's
10-2's by Team 126
Let's go to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ8SY7KI4aQ
Colorado Regional Finals 2 (1619, 1011, 4550):
Final Tower Strength: -10
Autonomous: 1
Teleop: 17
This is the lowest the tower has gotten so far at any event. Fun fact: the "-10" on the FMS overlay overlaps the white oval it's meant to fit in!
Ehter,
Would you be willing to graph Weeks 1, 2, 3, 4 in differenct colors or separate graphs?
I am curious about the possible trending.
Matt_Boehm_329
30-03-2016, 10:16
So then will starting tower strength be changed for week 7 and championship events?
Would you be willing to graph Weeks 1, 2, 3, 4 in differenct colors or separate graphs?
I am curious about the possible trending.
Is this what you had in mind?
I'm attaching an XLS instead of PNG so you can change the graph if there's a better way to view it.
TheBoulderite
30-03-2016, 11:43
So then will starting tower strength be changed for week 7 and championship events?
FIRST doesn't usually change fundamental game mechanics, so I'm guessing they won't. I could definitely see the tower health increase for post season events like IRI, though.
MasterMentor
30-03-2016, 12:05
Fun fact: the "-10" on the FMS overlay overlaps the white oval it's meant to fit in!
I would bet the game designers didn't think teams would be scoring so many boulders in a single match. This is reminiscent of the game "Missile Command," which could only show the last 6 digits of a score - so if you had a score of 2,650,000 you'd only see a score of 650,000.
Ahhh, good times.
-George
Anthony4004
30-03-2016, 12:10
FIRST doesn't usually change fundamental game mechanics, so I'm guessing they won't. I could definitely see the tower health increase for post season events like IRI, though.
They actually clearly state that they may do this. Per 3.1.4 Blue Box:
"As the season progresses, TOWERS may become fortified to increase
their starting STRENGTH. While the starting STRENGTH of a TOWER
will not change between weeks of Regional or District Competition
play, the starting STRENGTH of a TOWER may be changed for District
Championship and/or FIRST Championship play. Teams will be notified
of changes in the starting STRENGTH of a TOWER no later than the
scheduled Team Update prior to the date of the event."
So then will starting tower strength be changed for week 7 and championship events?
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146448
Is this what you had in mind?
I'm attaching an XLS instead of PNG so you can change the graph if there's a better way to view it.
Very close, and very useful. I was really interested in the percentage of matches, by week that had been fully weakened and in theory would be ready to be captured:
St-----wk1---- wk2---wk3----wk4
x<0 2.65% 5.51% 9.15% 16.65%
Now to find out percentage of actual captures...
Also, is this data per alliance or per match. It looks to be per alliance.
Also, is this data per alliance or per match. It looks to be per alliance.
Yes, per Alliance. Each match generates 2 scores (one for each alliance). The X axis of the graph is number of alliance scores.
Qual 61 at SVR had 18 goals scored for a -10 tower strength
All 18 were high goals :eek:
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