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TheBoulderite
28-03-2016, 16:38
Does anyone know what the current record is for the final strength of the tower at the end of a match? If you don't know, what is the lowest you've seen the tower? I'm just curious, as I have not seen every match of every event.

The lowest I've seen happened on Saturday at the Colorado Regional.

Colorado Regional Finals 2 (1619, 1011, 4550):
Final Tower Strength: -10
Autonomous: 1
Teleop: 17

SteveGPage
28-03-2016, 16:51
I'm sure there are lower tower strength's out there, but since I've only been focusing on the CHS District, I believe this is the lowest in our district:

Central Maryland - Chesapeake District Event. Qualification Match 45
Final Tower Strength: -6
AM: 1 Boulder
TO: 13 Boulders

Source: http://frc-events.firstinspires.org/2016/MDEDG/qualifications/45

Median240
28-03-2016, 16:56
Team 1305 along with 1241 and 1285 managed a - 7 tower score. 1 ball in auto and 14 in teleop.

M217
28-03-2016, 16:56
Tech Valley Qual 49
Red alliance 359 3624 5254. (1 high in auto, 11 high in teleop, 4 low in teleop).
Tower Strength at -8.

Lowest I can recall, but I haven't seen every match either.

Edit: Oh, wow, -10. Wow. Even if 8 of them were low, that's... impressive as heck.

RonAyyyyyyyy
28-03-2016, 17:27
In qual 66 at Iowa, 5172, 1775, & 2164 also managed a -8 score. I thought that was the lowest it's gotten, but -10 is insane, kudos.

Ether
29-03-2016, 23:16
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Old Guy
30-03-2016, 04:42
WPI District Semi 2-2
-9
14 -2's
3-5's

10-2's by Team 126

Let's go to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ8SY7KI4aQ

Jaci
30-03-2016, 04:57
Colorado Regional Finals 2 (1619, 1011, 4550):
Final Tower Strength: -10
Autonomous: 1
Teleop: 17

This is the lowest the tower has gotten so far at any event. Fun fact: the "-10" on the FMS overlay overlaps the white oval it's meant to fit in!

IKE
30-03-2016, 07:48
Ehter,
Would you be willing to graph Weeks 1, 2, 3, 4 in differenct colors or separate graphs?
I am curious about the possible trending.

Matt_Boehm_329
30-03-2016, 10:16
So then will starting tower strength be changed for week 7 and championship events?

Ether
30-03-2016, 11:31
Would you be willing to graph Weeks 1, 2, 3, 4 in differenct colors or separate graphs?
I am curious about the possible trending.

Is this what you had in mind?

I'm attaching an XLS instead of PNG so you can change the graph if there's a better way to view it.

TheBoulderite
30-03-2016, 11:43
So then will starting tower strength be changed for week 7 and championship events?

FIRST doesn't usually change fundamental game mechanics, so I'm guessing they won't. I could definitely see the tower health increase for post season events like IRI, though.

MasterMentor
30-03-2016, 12:05
Fun fact: the "-10" on the FMS overlay overlaps the white oval it's meant to fit in!

I would bet the game designers didn't think teams would be scoring so many boulders in a single match. This is reminiscent of the game "Missile Command," which could only show the last 6 digits of a score - so if you had a score of 2,650,000 you'd only see a score of 650,000.

Ahhh, good times.
-George

Anthony4004
30-03-2016, 12:10
FIRST doesn't usually change fundamental game mechanics, so I'm guessing they won't. I could definitely see the tower health increase for post season events like IRI, though.

They actually clearly state that they may do this. Per 3.1.4 Blue Box:
"As the season progresses, TOWERS may become fortified to increase
their starting STRENGTH. While the starting STRENGTH of a TOWER
will not change between weeks of Regional or District Competition
play, the starting STRENGTH of a TOWER may be changed for District
Championship and/or FIRST Championship play. Teams will be notified
of changes in the starting STRENGTH of a TOWER no later than the
scheduled Team Update prior to the date of the event."

Ether
30-03-2016, 12:12
So then will starting tower strength be changed for week 7 and championship events?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146448

IKE
30-03-2016, 14:00
Is this what you had in mind?

I'm attaching an XLS instead of PNG so you can change the graph if there's a better way to view it.

Very close, and very useful. I was really interested in the percentage of matches, by week that had been fully weakened and in theory would be ready to be captured:
St-----wk1---- wk2---wk3----wk4
x<0 2.65% 5.51% 9.15% 16.65%

Now to find out percentage of actual captures...

Also, is this data per alliance or per match. It looks to be per alliance.

Ether
30-03-2016, 14:18
Also, is this data per alliance or per match. It looks to be per alliance.

Yes, per Alliance. Each match generates 2 scores (one for each alliance). The X axis of the graph is number of alliance scores.

M217
09-04-2016, 13:22
Qual 61 at SVR had 18 goals scored for a -10 tower strength

All 18 were high goals :eek: