Championship Community Predictions

[Arteezy_RL]

Which top 10 teams do you think people will have to watch out for coming into the championship? Which top 5 first year rookies look the best? Do you think any will make it to playoffs?

[pilleya]

Do you think any will make it to playoffs?

There will be plenty of rookies in the divisional playoffs, maybe not as alliance captain but definitely 2nd and 3rd picks or even 1st pick depending how they go. There are some very solid rookies out there.

[Arhowk]

There will be plenty of rookies in the divisional playoffs, maybe not as alliance captain but definitely 2nd and 3rd picks or even 1st pick depending how they go. There are some very solid rookies out there.

I don't know, there are some really good rookies (first one off the top of my head- 5980) that can easily be alliance 1-2-3 captain

[JohnSchneider]

Top25 will post their final season results sometime next week before champs. That has a community vote portion so you should see a pretty good representation of who the community feels is the best. I would suggest you go vote in that!

In addition both top25 and LookingForward provide "expert" polls. Those are usually pretty neat too, and interesting to see how they differ from the community polls.

[Liam Fay]

I could totally see 118 being on a division winning (and maybe Einstein winning?) alliance. Their performance this year has kept up with the stellar one they had last year.

California looks very well represented, with 971, the aforementioned 1678, 254, 3476, and many other incredible teams looking to add to their resumes.

There's of course the Canadian cohort - 1114, 2056, 610, 1241, as well as the more recent 4678.

[hutchMN]

If you haven't heard of 5172 you will after Champs :D

[natejo99]

I'd have to say that 5980 is probably the best rookie bot to be coming out of Michigan. Definitely a team to look out for.

[M217]

There's of course the Canadian cohort - 1114, 2056, 610, 1241, as well as the more recent 4678.

Don't forget Makeshift! I had the privilege of watching them at Carver division finals last year, and their bot was spectacular; they seem to have only gotten better this year.

[Dan Petrovic]

195's got their 2-ball auto dialed in, so I expect them to do very well.

[RonAyyyyyyyy]

If you haven't heard of 5172 you will after Champs :D

THIS. I fully expect 5172 to make it to division finals at least

[AlexD744]

I fully expect 5842, the rookie team we worked with at South Florida, to fall under the radar and get picked up late to make a stellar alliance. They're built to play solid defense, and can work a ball starvation strategy if needed. If no one picks them it will be sad :/

[TheBoulderite]

I had the pleasure to meet team 125 and see their bot at Arizona North this year, and they have improved a lot since then. I fully expect the Nutrons to do really well this year. I'd also be on the lookout for 2122 and 1011 as well. Both Tators and Crush are strong low goal bots, and both could have a deep run on the right alliance.

[akalari]

These are my predictions for the top 2 robots on the winning alliance on each division. I think Hopper will be able to take it all.

Archimedes Division:
1671 - Bird Brains
1986 - Team Titanium

Carson Division:
610 - Crescent Robotics
973 - Greybots

Carver Division:
359 - Hawaiian Kids
1114 - Simbotics

Curie Division:
1983 - Skunk
3230 - PrototypeX

Galileo Division:
987 - HIGHROLLERS
3683 - Team Dave

Hopper Division:
971 - Spartan Robotics
1678 - Citrus Circuits

Newton Division:
118 - Robonauts
254 - The Cheesy Poofs

Tesla Division:
33 - Killer Bees
2056 - OP Robotics

[microbuns]

I think the most likely candidate for winning this year has to be whoever comes out of Newton. I could see 254, 67, 1241, and 118 as the top 4, pairing up in really any way (not to mention the host of other top tier teams in the division that could eclipse them). Any one of those pairings will be very hard to stop.

[LFrisk]

THIS. I fully expect 5172 to make it to division finals at least

Just division finals? I would be mildly surprised if they didn't make Einstein Finals.

[Abhishek R]

118-5172-4678 Newton Champions and World Champions

[Tottanka]

1678+971 is our next world champion.

[mjc49]

If you haven't heard of 5172 you will after Champs :D

+1

World class shooter. Really small school that has made great robots in each of their first 3 seasons.

[microbuns]

118-5172-4678 Newton Champions and World Champions

Something will have went very wrong if these 3 are allowed to be on the same alliance together!

[Jay O'Donnell]

Something will have went very wrong if these 3 are allowed to be on the same alliance together!

With how deep Newton is it wouldn't be shocking to me at all.

[Basel A]

Something will have went very wrong if these 3 are allowed to be on the same alliance together!

I'd say the same thing about 254, 111, and 973. Or 25, 180, and 16. Or 118, 1678, and 1671. Things go very wrong!

[Doug G]

1678+971 is our next world champion.

+1

I would love to see 971 get back to Einstein and win with 1678. IIRC, 1678 took them out in 2014 in division Finals.

[serenagh]

5817, for rookie teams to watch. They could be in the top 5 rookies for sure, and I wouldn't be surprised is they won RAS at champs (they've won it at 2 regionals this season)

[djperry1009]

These are my predictions for the top 2 alliances and the winning alliance on each division.
Archimedes:
Winners: 1986 and 4039
Finalists: 2338 and 180
Carson:
Winners: 3824 and 610
Finalists: 233 and 973
Carver:
Winners: 2481 and 1114
Finalists: 330 and 359
Curie:
Winners: 2848 and 25
Finalists: 1983 and 3230
Galileo:
Winners: 987 and 195
Finalists: 1023 and 3683
Hopper:
Winners: 148 and 971
Finalists: 1678 and 1538
Newton:
Winners: 5172 and 1241
Finalists: 118 and 254
Tesla:
Winners: 2056 and 1806
Finalists: 33 and 4488

[LDiDomenico]

Here are my predictions (without fourth pick) for Einstein:

Archimedes: QF : 1986 1501 980
Carson: QF :973 2771 2202
Carver: SF : 1114 359 20
Curie: QF : 3310 876 4061
Galileo: F : 987 195 5012
Hopper: QF : 1678 148 1323
Newton: W : 254 5172 1296
Tesla: SF : 2056 33 2194

[Anteprefix]

Here are my predictions (without fourth pick) for Einstein:

Archimedes: QF : 1986 1501 980
Carson: QF :973 2771 2202
Carver: QF : 1114 359 20
Curie: QF : 3310 876 4061
Galileo: SF : 987 195 5012
Hopper: F : 1678 148 1323
Newton: W : 254 5172 1296
Tesla: SF : 2056 33 2194

Newton and Hopper are facing off in quarterfinals, so they cannot be winners and finalists respectively. Curie and Carver can't both be quarterfinalists for the same reason. Tesla and Galileo can't both be semifinalists, again because they face off against each other during semifinals. You all should keep this in mind when making predictions. Unlike last year, there is a bracket and it matters.

[LDiDomenico]

Newton and Hopper are facing off in quarterfinals, so they cannot be winners and finalists respectively. Curie and Carver can't both be quarterfinalists for the same reason. Tesla and Galileo can't both be semifinalists, again because they face off against each other during semifinals. You all should keep this in mind when making predictions. Unlike last year, there is a bracket and it matters.

Thanks, I forgot about that, due to how lasts years Einstein worked. I edited my predictions in my previous post.

[Captain_Kirch]

As far as Carver division is concerned any team worth their salt is going to pick 2481. Their robot is near perfection. You can't block their shot, you can only try to keep balls away from them. If those guys could put two of themselves on the field, they'd take the whole thing.


Newton division may be stacked like flapjacks, but untouchable outer works shooters and dukes of hazard d-bots will win out over low bar lobbers every time. There are robots that are just straight up immune to courtyard defense, and they have a clear advantage over those who are not. If anyone is going to take down the newton alliance, its going to be someone like 2481.

[Kevin Leonard]

Predictionsssssss
Archimedes
180-4039-1768
Carson
225-1619-1126
Carver
27-3357-573
Curieeeee
1983-3990-1511
Galileoooo
987-195-175
Hoppppperrr
4334-1678-1218
Newton
16-4678-3476
Tesla-
177-1690-181

[djperry1009]

As far as Carver division is concerned any team worth their salt is going to pick 2481.
I agree, we were fortunate enough to see them at Smoky Mountain, where there is barely any video footage, and they are definitely unstoppable by a defender. I think Carver teams will see their capabilities, and they will end up going to Einsten. Great team with great people. Much love for 2481.

[Theseusgoats]

I don't know enough about each division to pick a good second pick for each so only the top two robots listed here.

Archimedes: 1986-1501
Carson: 2052-2771 (potentially 1024)
Carver: 1114-359
Curie: 1983+3506
Galileo: 195-987
Hopper: 1678-971 (or 148, too hard to decide)
Newton: 254-1241 (or 118)
Tesla: 2056-33 (with the possibility of an upset from 4488-2363-2451, any 2 of 3, obviously not all 3 together)

Anyway, good luck to all the Indiana teams who went..
1501
868
1024
461
1747
4103
1529
45
135
6012

Also, I saw 3147 on hopper I think. Did they get through by the wait list thing.

[JABot67]

I'll take a stab at predictions for the 2016 championship! I made these picks with the idea of maximizing the chances of one or both of the teams being right. There is definitely a lot of variability in this year's game and it seems guaranteed that some unexpectedly awesome alliances will make Einstein this year. I just tried to choose 2 teams from each division that I thought had pretty good chances of winning their divisions. So without further ado:

Newton: 67/254
Tesla: 1690/2056
Galileo: 195/987
Hopper: 148/1678
Curie: 3339/3990
Carver: 1114/359
Carson: 1024/1619
Archi: 1501/1986

I think there will be a lot of Michigan teams on Einstein, especially in the 3rd/4th bot slots. I was impressed with the Israeli teams when watching their regional so I picked 3339 and 1690 to win their divisions - hopefully they got lots of practice! Newton was hard to decide but I thought a 67-254 alliance would be awesome. They've never paired up before! On Carson, 1024 has to win their division. Last time they won all their pre-CMP events (2008), they also won their division. Also I'm a big 1619 homer.

We'll see what happens!

[RonAyyyyyyyy]

My own predictions, made from perusing the data and based on the predicted rankings:

Archimedes:
Winner- 45, 4564, 4039, 5050
Finalist- 1986, 2338, 2064, 4003
(45 uses scorched earth)

Carson:
Winner-2590, 225, 2137, 41
Finalist-319, 610, 1619, 2474

Carver:
Winner-330, 1114, 5980, 3452
Finalist-133, 2481, 3419, 1836

Curie:
Winner-25, 3310, 3147, 166
Finalist-5406, 2168, 2848, 5279

Galileo:
Winner-987, 341, 3132, 245
Finalist-1153, 195, 6012, 5448

Hopper:
Winner-2013, 5254, 5546, 1684
Finalist-4334, 4587, 5847, 2046

Newton:
Winner-254, 118, 3360, 217
Finalist-1241, 5172, 5505, 125

Tesla:
Winner-2056, 33, 4488(i know), 3015
Finalist-4468, 1690, 2363, 2194

Einstein:

Newton beats Hopper
Carver beats Curie
Galileo beats Carson
Tesla beats Archimedes

Newton beats Carver
Tesla beats Galileo

Tesla beats Newton

[JohnFogarty]

As far as Carver division is concerned any team worth their salt is going to pick 2481. Their robot is near perfection. You can't block their shot, you can only try to keep balls away from them. If those guys could put two of themselves on the field, they'd take the whole thing.


Newton division may be stacked like flapjacks, but untouchable outer works shooters and dukes of hazard d-bots will win out over low bar lobbers every time. There are robots that are just straight up immune to courtyard defense, and they have a clear advantage over those who are not. If anyone is going to take down the newton alliance, its going to be someone like 2481.

Newton has 5172 that fires laser beams from the outer works completely immune to courtyard D.

[jajabinx124]

Newton has 5172 that fires laser beams from the outer works completely immune to courtyard D.

They can go up against the driver-station wall turn their turret towards the tower and fire laser beams too to avoid courtyard D too.

[Connor McBride]

I think a great question would be is that will 177 make another Einstein appearance this year.

-Connor

[Brad Hanel]

Archimedes:
4039-1671-1310-5876 (QF)
Carson:
1156-525-1126 ;) -4121 (SF)
Carver:
20-1114-5048-1665 (QF)
Curie:
3990-1983-5406-2220 (F)
Galileo:
3539-341-2283-2383 (QF)
Hopper:
148-1678-1425-1559 (QF)
Newton:
5172-179-1640-3504 (SF)
Tesla:
33-2056-4930-1405 (W)

[Lidor51]

Newton: Winner
Winner: 254, 5172
Finalist: 1241, 118

Hopper: QF
Winner: 971, 1678
Finalist: 148, 4587

Curie: QF
Winner: 1983, 3339
Finalist: 25, 3990

Carver:
Winner: 1114, 2481
Finalist: 330, 359

Galileo: SF
Winner: 195, 987
Finalist: 3683, 341

Carson: QF
Winner: 610, 1024
Finalist: 3824, 973

Archimedes: QF
Winner: 1986, 1501
Finalist: 4103, 180

Tesla: Finalist
Winner: 2056, 1690
Finalist: 2451, 33

[M217]

Archimedes
1986, 45
F= 1540, 2338

Carson
610, 225
F= 2771, 1024

Carver
330, 1114
F= 133, 2481

Curie
3990, 3310
F= 25, 3641

Galileo
987, 195
F= 341, 1023

Hopper
148, 971
F= 1678, 4334

Newton
254, 1241
F= 118, 5172

Tesla
2056, 33
F= 1806, 2451

Einstein QF
Tesla defeats Archimedes
Carver defeats Curie
Hopper defeats Newton
Galileo defeats Carson

Einstein SF
Hopper defeats Carver
Tesla defeats Galileo

Einstein F
Hopper Defeats Tesla

[Charles Boehm]

If you haven't heard of 5172 you will after Champs :D

100% agree. This team will do great.

[Arteezy_RL]

I'm surprised that I'm not seeing more of RUSH 27 in here. They are probably the strongest bot coming out of Michigan this year.

[djperry1009]

I'm surprised that I'm not seeing more of RUSH 27 in here. They are probably the strongest bot coming out of Michigan this year.
I agree, however, they are up some extremely good competition, with 330, 359, 1114, and 2481. I think these traditional powerhouse teams are the one's being predicted because of reliability and consistency over the years, as well as reputation. I think 27 stacks up well with the competition, should be exciting to watch!

[Lij2015]

A couple teams in Newton I think people are going to be underestimating are 1241 (I know this is kinda obvious) and 1519. Absolutely great robots that have proven their worth.

[jajabinx124]

Archimedes:
Winners: 1986, 2338
Finalists: 1540, 1310

Carson:
Winners: 1024, 973
Finalists: 610, 225

Carver:
Winners: 330, 1114
Finalists: 27, 2481

Curie:
Winners: 1983, 3310
Finalists: 876, 25

Galileo:
Winners: 987, 341
Finalists: 195, 2468

Hopper:
Winners: 971, 1678
Finalists: 148, 1538

Newton:
Winners: 254, 5172
Finalists: 1241, 118

Tesla:
Winners: 2056, 2451
Finalists: 33, 4488

[Basel A]

Predictions collectively generated by myself, JABot67, and Zebra_Fact_Man

Archimedes:
1) 1501 1986 5050 4828 W
2) 4003 4564 5842 1257 F
3) 3166 180 3211 999 QF
4) 2064 4039 2338 5401 QF
5) 1747 1768 107 207 SF
6) 4103 1318 1310 1923 SF
7) 45 1540 1671 236 QF
8) 3534 3098 2637 4911 QF

Carson:
1) 973 610 2474 319 W
2) 2590 225 2067 11 SF
3) 5895 1024 233 3688 F
4) 2122 2052 3538 41 QF
5) 1718 1918 135 4362 SF
6) 2137 868 1625 1369 QF
7) 1619 525 4028 3352 QF
8) 4264 3824 2771 5572 QF

Carver:
1) 133 230 910 1775 W
2) 330 2481 120 1086 SF
3) 27 1114 20 5924 F
4) 842 2767 4451 1058 QF
5) 5460 3357 85 1746 SF
6) 1305 3419 2648 3452 QF
7) 57 360 3478 4536 QF
8) 503 359 4607 228 QF

Curie:
1) 3546 166 858 3618 SF
2) 1089 1983 4469 836 SF
3) 25 2848 4329 1885 QF
4) 5803 3310 2168 5940 QF
5) 5406 3641 1261 2883 F
6) 639 3990 1662 287 W
7) 3005 876 2557 4061 QF
8) 694 3339 379 1511 QF

Galileo:
1) 195 987 1197 1065 W
2) 3683 341 2383 4525 QF
3) 365 1124 870 68 QF
4) 3539 175 4009 623 SF
5) 5813 2468 1153 2907 QF
6) 558 494 2502 4740 F
7) 333 1023 5448 6175 SF
8) 2987 245 176 2642 QF

Hopper:
1) 148 1678 364 2990 W
2) 1425 1538 2046 2471 SF
3) 971 1323 193 5254 F
4) 4334 294 2013 1732 SF
5) 303 4587 1796 4085 QF
6) 1712 869 1730 1736 QF
7) 346 4967 1011 172 QF
8) 231 4920 3604 70 QF

Newton:
1) 1241 254 1731 708 F
2) 1519 118 3309 1676 SF
3) 67 5172 1477 3481 W
4) 179 3620 3937 3360 SF
5) 5150 125 1640 48 QF
6) 4001 16 2614 1296 QF
7) 217 3476 4678 188 QF
8) 1418 229 3314 3663 QF

Tesla:
1) 2056 1690 3015 1405 W
2) 2451 1806 2194 1306 F
3) 2834 33 1756 329 SF
4) 2823 3130 3042 2415 QF
5) 4488 548 2363 1250 SF
6) 4391 5114 2337 5854 QF
7) 1675 177 111 3044 QF
8) 74 2054 4468 3238 QF

[LDiDomenico]

Now that alliance selections are out here is my attempt to predict the brackets for all divisions and Einstein.

Archimedes:

Alliance 1 1501 1986 5050 4828 : W
Alliance 2 4003 4564 5842 1257 : QF
Alliance 3 3166 180 3211 999 : QF
Alliance 4 2064 4039 2338 5401 : F
Alliance 5 1747 1768 107 207 : QF
Alliance 6 4103 1318 1310 1923 : SF
Alliance 7 45 1540 1671 236 : SF
Alliance 8 3534 3098 2637 4911 : QF

Carson:

Alliance 1 973 610 2474 319 : W
Alliance 2 2590 225 2067 11 : SF
Alliance 3 5895 1024 233 3688 : F
Alliance 4 2122 2052 3538 41 : SF
Alliance 5 1718 1918 135 4362 : QF
Alliance 6 2137 868 1625 1369 : QF
Alliance 7 1619 525 4028 3352 : QF
Alliance 8 4264 3824 2771 5572 : QF

Carver:

Alliance 1 133 230 910 1775 : QF
Alliance 2 330 2481 120 1086 : F
Alliance 3 27 1114 20 5924 : W
Alliance 4 842 2767 4451 1058 : SF
Alliance 5 5460 3357 85 1746 : QF
Alliance 6 1305 3419 2648 3452 : QF
Alliance 7 57 360 3478 4536 : QF
Alliance 8 503 359 4607 228 : SF

Curie:

Alliance 1 3546 166 858 3618 : W
Alliance 2 1089 1983 4469 836 : F
Alliance 3 25 2848 4329 1885 : SF
Alliance 4 5803 3310 2168 5940 : SF
Alliance 5 5406 3641 1261 2883 : QF
Alliance 6 4639 3990 1662 287 : QF
Alliance 7 3005 876 2557 4061 : QF
Alliance 8 694 3339 379 1511 : QF

Galileo:

Alliance 1 195 987 1197 1065 : W
Alliacne 2 3683 341 2383 4525 : F
Alliance 3 365 1124 870 68 : QF
Alliance 4 3539 175 4009 623 : SF
Alliance 5 5813 2468 1153 2907 : QF
Alliance 6 558 494 2502 4740 : SF
Alliance 7 333 1023 5448 6175 : QF
Alliance 8 2987 245 176 2642 : QF

Hopper:

Alliance 1 148 1678 364 2990 : W
Alliance 2 1425 1538 2046 2471 : SF
Alliance 3 971 1323 193 5254 : F
Alliance 4 4334 294 2013 1732 : QF
Alliance 5 303 4587 1796 4085 : SF
Alliance 6 1712 869 1730 1736 : QF
Alliance 7 346 4967 1011 172 : QF
Alliance 8 231 4920 3604 70 : QF

Newton:

Alliance 1 1241 254 1731 708 : F
Alliance 2 1519 118 3309 1676 : SF
Alliance 3 67 5172 1477 3481 : W
Alliance 4 179 3620 3937 3360 : SF
Alliance 5 5150 125 1640 48 : QF
Alliance 6 4001 16 2614 1296 : QF
Alliance 7 217 3476 4678 188 : QF
Alliance 8 1418 229 3314 3663 : QF

Tesla:

Alliance 1 2056 1690 3015 1405 : W
Alliance 2 2451 1806 2194 1306 : SF
Alliance 3 2834 33 1756 329 : F
Alliance 4 2823 3130 3042 2415 : QF
Alliance 5 4488 548 2362 1250 : SF
Alliance 6 4391 5114 2337 5854 : QF
Alliance 7 1675 177 111 3044 : QF
Alliance 8 74 2054 4468 3238 : QF

Einstein:

Archimedes: QF : 1501 1986 5050 4828
Carson: QF : 973 610 2474 319
Carver: SF: 27 1114 20 5924
Curie: QF: 3546 166 858 3618
Galileo: F : 195 987 1197 1065
Hopper: QF : 148 1678 364 2990
Newton: W : 67 5172 1477 3481
Tesla: SF : 2056 1690 3015 1405

[Basel A]

nikeairmancurry decided to actually wake up and join us in our Einstein predictions

Newton: 67 5172 1477 3481 W
Galileo: 195 987 1197 1065 F
Archimedes: 1501 1986 5050 4828 QF
Curie: 639 3990 1662 287 QF
Carver: 133 230 910 1775 SF
Tesla: 2056 1690 3015 1405 SF
Carson: 973 610 2474 319 QF
Hopper: 148 1678 364 2990 QF

[JABot67]

Newton: 67/254
Tesla: 1690/2056
Galileo: 195/987
Hopper: 148/1678
Curie: 3339/3990
Carver: 1114/359
Carson: 1024/1619
Archi: 1501/1986


Over 50%! Not too shabby...

Most prognosticators got 195/987 and 1501/1986 right, with a tad fewer correctly predicting 148/1678 (usually throwing 971 in the mix instead). Most people also got 2056 right. From there it was all downhill, with Newton at the bottom. I think one person guessed 4678 right....