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Skyehawk
30-04-2016, 16:45
Blair said it, not me...
runneals
30-04-2016, 16:48
It was confirmed at the Iowa Regional this year...
https://c8.staticflickr.com/2/1452/26077718735_1001bc81ee.jpg
Thephatsass
30-04-2016, 16:51
I rushed to make an account for this...
Curse you
No.
It was confirmed on stream, so it MUST be true!
/s
Kevin Sevcik
30-04-2016, 17:00
What are you people going to rumor mill about if we ever actually get a water game?
Ginger Power
30-04-2016, 17:01
What are you people going to rumor mill about if we ever actually get a water game?
Fire Game?
IronicDeadBird
30-04-2016, 17:02
Haven't seen capture the flag played in a pool but it would be interesting...
What are you people going to rumor mill about if we ever actually get a water game?
Submarine game.
What are you people going to rumor mill about if we ever actually get a water game?
2018 Water Game
Anyone know the words that were used, or the video? I missed it :(
:p
What are you people going to rumor mill about if we ever actually get a water game?
Waterproof roborios
dirtbikerxz
01-05-2016, 00:12
Waterproof roborios
The roborio's ARE waterproof... look up the specs :)
dirtbikerxz
01-05-2016, 00:13
Last time I checked, I don't think water and electronics don't work too well together... :]
Ya, well explain my remote controlled submarine :D :D :D
Philip Arola
01-05-2016, 01:28
What are you people going to rumor mill about if we ever actually get a water game?
Flying game.
Kevin Sevcik
01-05-2016, 09:59
Robots in spaaaace...
No wait, we did that in 2009. On second thought, lets not go to space, it's a silly place.
Thayer McCollum
01-05-2016, 10:54
I think FIRST will give us a water themed game, you know like how Stronghold was Middle Ages/Castle themed. They'll give us a game about water but without any actual water in it.
euhlmann
01-05-2016, 13:28
Guys...it already was a water game. Didn't you see?
http://i.imgur.com/QWgDsaL.png
Water game already exists
http://www.seaperch.org/index
Hologram_J
01-05-2016, 15:23
4967 plays it all the time
rich2202
01-05-2016, 18:14
We were chatting about the Bumpers being flotation devices for next year's game, when Big Al (the lead LRI) said he would be closely reviewing the bumper rules for next year. I take that as close as a confirm that he could give.
chamingflicken
01-05-2016, 19:39
FIRST is dividing the championship because they couldn't find a pool large enough for 600 teams.... water game confirmed.
HolyDollar
01-05-2016, 22:04
Fire Game?
No, better. Space Game (https://youtu.be/oKwZZ5xWVE4?t=1m41s). :)
Bkeeneykid
01-05-2016, 22:15
No, better. Space Game (https://youtu.be/oKwZZ5xWVE4?t=1m41s). :)
No no no...
2018 is Burrito Bash (http://www.firstinspires.org/robotics/frc/blog/Kickoff-and-Arnold-Schwarzenegger)! (At the end of the page)
Guys...it already was a water game. Didn't you see?
http://i.imgur.com/QWgDsaL.png
Yes, but...where is the actual water?
Yes, but...where is the actual water?
Under the actual boulders.
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euhlmann
02-05-2016, 07:28
Yes, but...where is the actual water?
Right there inside the moat, obviously.
I'm waiting for FIRST's 2018 game FIRST Zombie Run. Made specifically to hold events at 2 venues.
Teams have to venture en mass from one arena to another while dodging volunteers assigned as zombies to attack teams going to the other arena and attempt top steal their robots. Once they arrive at the other arena they are required to play 2016's game with surviving robots using damaged defenses while zombies attempt to disrupt them. Teams must protect drive teams from the zombies using nerf guns, Points are deducted depending how many team members were "killed" by zombies and how many robots were stolen by zombies.
Bryce Clegg
03-05-2016, 09:27
Flying game.
We actually considered trying that this year. Probably wouldn't have gone over well with the inspectors though
Tharioth Pillow
04-05-2016, 13:22
Dean wants us to promote a bill.
Platypi have bills.
Platypi frequently swim in water.
Dean wants us to promote platypi.
Dean wants teams to build platypus robots.
Water Game Confirmed.
kyle_hamblett
04-05-2016, 13:37
This thread seems a bit late... IIRC, there was a water game thread floating around after kickoff last year...
This thread seems a bit late... IIRC, there was a water game thread floating around after kickoff last year...
The excitement concerning a water game comes in waves.
I hope to be alive when it happens
Since 2004 I wished or a flying or a water game
rich2202
04-05-2016, 15:24
I just heard from the GDC that, due to safety concerns, with the water problems they are having in the Flint/Detroit area, there won't be a water game next year.
rich2202
04-05-2016, 15:25
I hope to be alive when it happens
Since 2004 I wished or a flying or a water game
There should be a mini-bot flying drone end-game next year.
TehSwegGey
04-05-2016, 15:54
http://s32.postimg.org/6n71dsswx/Submarine_Skirmish2017.jpg (https://goo.gl/ijJHpx)
#GDCLeak https://goo.gl/ijJHpx
ShadathChow
04-05-2016, 21:14
water problems they are having in the Flint/Detroit area
Sorry to have to point this out. Detroit doesn't have water problem. Flint, on the other hand, does have water problems. Flint is an hour away from Detroit. The problem arose when they decided not to drink Detroit water. Just for your future reference.
That being said. Houston and Detroit are port cities. River race game confirmed.
Right there inside the moat, obviously.
Then why wasn't our robot wet after passing through it? :confused: The "Bad Lip Reading" video had Woodie Flowers talking about mangoes. Mangoes are 83% water...
s_forbes
04-05-2016, 21:38
PSA: Water games already exist, and they are more fun than you think! Check out Robosub (http://www.auvsifoundation.org/competition/robosub) and MATE (http://www.marinetech.org/rov-competition-2/), for starters.
Team 842 will be competing in the Robosub competition for the 6th year in a row now. The team gets to go up against universities from around the world (Canada, Turkey, Russia, Japan, China, Singapore, India, Sweden...) in a week long pool-side competition on the beach of San Diego in the summer. Cheaper than FIRST, cash prizes, loads of career contacts, and you get to wear a swimsuit and play in the water.
Most top teams that compete in FRC can easily walk away with top finishes at these events. I'm not gonna take the hype for a water game seriously until you all start building some swimming robots!
The FIRST Stronghold theme song is called "Master of Mists (https://us.audionetwork.com/browse/m/track/master-of-mists_83686).
Coincidence? I think not.
scott.smith
05-05-2016, 12:08
Honestly, there is no way that they would have a water game. It is a fun thing to think about, but it will never happen. Next, did anybody hear when the people talking in between Einstein matches totally hinted that there would be minibots next year? I feel like I am the only person that heard. Do you think they were being serious?
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/937/937c17f61edfb4c28990684476a993c7_m.jpg
3853 wants a water game!
Prestochangeo1
05-05-2016, 22:29
At the closing cerimonies of Worlds, they said 2017 would be a water game.
More specifically, They were talking in general about what next years game is going to be, but it 'slipped out' that it was going to be water related.
FIRST hasn't in the past given out so many hints or what not, but this year the have. For example, they gave out an official hint video and the game name, intentionally. The never have (to the best of my knowlage) done that before.
Anything is possible.
Chi Meson
07-05-2016, 07:40
http://s32.postimg.org/6n71dsswx/Submarine_Skirmish2017.jpg (https://goo.gl/ijJHpx)
#GDCLeak https://goo.gl/ijJHpx
Oh, bring it on!
DO
BRING IT AWN!
says Groton, CT!
Twepeler
13-05-2016, 14:12
I feel like 2017 should be a baseball game of sort. Don't know how it would work out but would be cool to see
rich2202
13-05-2016, 14:58
I feel like 2017 should be a baseball game of sort. Don't know how it would work out but would be cool to see
Probably have 10 pages of rules on stealing bases.
In FRC, "anything" can happen.:confused:
jfish872
25-05-2016, 14:32
Think about how difficult it would be to actually have a water game, robot design, field design, hoping that the water doesn't leak out everywhere.
If they could overcome the challenges involved, an actual water game could be the best thing ever.
Think about how difficult it would be to actually have a water game, robot design, field design, hoping that the water doesn't leak out everywhere.
If they could overcome the challenges involved, an actual water game could be the best thing ever.
I still think an aerial game would be cooler. You have 3 dimensions to play in while still maintaining the safety of the robot.
Plus flying would be really neat. :p
Think about how difficult it would be to actually have a water game, robot design, field design, hoping that the water doesn't leak out everywhere.
If they could overcome the challenges involved, an actual water game could be the best thing ever.
There would only be one competition, and it would be here (http://huffpost.com/us/entry/worlds-largest-outdoor-pool_n_1532709.html).
I still think an aerial game would be cooler. You have 3 dimensions to play in while still maintaining the safety of the robot.
Plus flying would be really neat. :p
There could be 3 dimensions to a water game too if diving is allowed. An air game would also be cool; maybe that's why there's 3 venues for CMP in Houston next year. Robots will fly from one to the other.
jfish872
26-05-2016, 15:02
There would only be one competition, and it would be here (http://huffpost.com/us/entry/worlds-largest-outdoor-pool_n_1532709.html).
There could be 3 dimensions to a water game too if diving is allowed. An air game would also be cool; maybe that's why there's 3 venues for CMP in Houston next year. Robots will fly from one to the other.
But wouldn't that contaminate the water? What about all the people whom actually want to swim in that pool? How would people bring the bots on and off the "field"?
I know that the water game is a joke and all, but still so many questions...
s_forbes
26-05-2016, 15:15
But wouldn't that contaminate the water? What about all the people whom actually want to swim in that pool? How would people bring the bots on and off the "field"?
I know that the water game is a joke and all, but still so many questions...
ROVs don't make the water any more contaminated than a person does. You can swim with robots too, it's not dangerous. It's easy to put them in and out on the side of the pool.
Here's an example of an underwater robot performing an underwater task for an underwater game, in case you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xzNtnjIrqk
jfish872
26-05-2016, 15:24
ROVs don't make the water any more contaminated than a person does. You can swim with robots too, it's not dangerous. It's easy to put them in and out on the side of the pool.
Here's an example of an underwater robot performing an underwater task for an underwater game, in case you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xzNtnjIrqk
They would need very strict quality control though, much stricter than what they have now. Otherwise bots could leak and fail.
The real question is what the challenge would be. What if they found a way to combine air and water games, like if the robots would dive down to grab little blocks, and then fly up and place them on high platforms...
OccamzRazor
26-05-2016, 16:18
I am just going to leave this here but......we already had a water game....where were you? :rolleyes:
jfish872
26-05-2016, 16:34
I am just going to leave this here but......we already had a water game....where were you? :rolleyes:
I don't think that fully qualifies as a water game. They need more water than what was in those blue balls.
They need at least a pool that can house 6 robots easily in order to have a proper water game.
I am just going to leave this here but......we already had a water game....where were you? :rolleyes:
That seems like a really bad idea...
What happened if/when a ball popped?
jfish872
26-05-2016, 16:54
That seems like a really bad idea...
What happened if/when a ball popped?
They must have made them out of extremely thick rubber, so they wouldn't pop, or else there would have been quite a bit of cleanup to do after every match...
They probably had lots of extra balls incase a few popped.
Citrus Dad
26-05-2016, 19:30
We played a water game this year--didn't you notice the moat???
A Water Game AND a Space Game in one:
The game: Solar Slingshot. Teams build robots which roam the solar system, collecting and purifying water and delivering it to impoverished space stations.
Autonomous: There is a two hour autonomous period during which teams may launch their robot. There is a 20 point bonus for reaching LEO (low earth orbit) during autonomous, and a 40 point bonus for reaching earth escape velocity. Note: teams competing at regionals and districts more than 300m above sea level will have adjusted reaction mass allocations and autonomous scoring. For an additional shipping fee, teams may begin aboard a SpaceX-launched craft in LEO at the end of the autonomous period, thus waiving eligibility for autonomous points.
Teleop: Teams direct their robots to a comet. Robots then mine the comet for water and deliver said water to one of two beacons located at the L4 and L5 metastable orbits leading and trailing the moon. Since the temperature will be below freezing, scoring is by mass, not volume: 1 point per 100g delivered. Maximum payload: 20kg per round trip.
Endgame: Before closing ceremonies, return the robot to the LEO craft for a 20 point bonus or the terrestrial regional for 40 bonus points. The "license plate" must still be intact and (after cleaning) legible to receive endgame bonus points.
This game will get really interesting once teams realize that their still isn't working and it's time to play defense..
dirtbikerxz
27-05-2016, 17:11
A Water Game AND a Space Game in one:
And the winning alliance is *drum roll* 118, 254, and 233 the NASA House teams, What a Surprise! :P :D
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