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Brandon Holley
10-11-2016, 20:03
No surprise there. I don't know how you guys do it. Just building a robot that can survive that much play is amazing

We can't help ourselves. With additional District events being reasonably cheap, and most of our events occurring Fri-Sun, we can compete more frequently without heavy financial or school absence burden.

-Brando

Mark McLeod
11-11-2016, 12:54
Texas added five teams from the waitlist or late registrations.
We're waitlist locked right now, so it takes RD/FIRST action now to add new teams.

Probably ~200+ more teams will add in, including the whole country of Israel.

Mark McLeod
16-11-2016, 10:07
The Pittsburgh Regional opened up a bunch of free slots that had been on their waitlist. Apparently they want to encourage more teams to apply.

We're at 3174 teams. Things seized up a bit when so many events became waitlist locked.

bdaroz
16-11-2016, 10:14
Also keep in mind the Israeli district hasn't opened up yet either, which will give a nice boost to team count.

Travis Hoffman
16-11-2016, 14:20
The Pittsburgh Regional opened up a bunch of free slots that had been on their waitlist. Apparently they want to encourage more teams to apply.

We're at 3174 teams. Things seized up a bit when so many events became waitlist locked.

If any of you registered Buckeye folks want to transfer over to Pittsburgh to make room for us at Buckeye, that would be SWELL. ;) :cool:

mwmac
16-11-2016, 15:37
If any of you registered Buckeye folks want to transfer over to Pittsburgh to make room for us at Buckeye, that would be SWELL. ;) :cool:

Come on Travis I thought you were coming out to Idaho!

niklas674
16-11-2016, 16:40
Come on Travis I thought you were coming out to Idaho!

everyone should come to Idaho. It's sure to be a great event again. We are looking forward to coming back.

Mark McLeod
16-11-2016, 17:19
Hawaii just freed up 5 open slots to invite more teams, too.

P.J.
16-11-2016, 18:46
Regarding Michigan, at the Bloomfield Hills All Girl Event this past Saturday Gail Alpert (the President of FiM) announced that we would be adding two more events in the state. One in the Saginaw area and another "north of Flint," bringing the Michigan district total to 23 events.

Still no word on the location of the state championship.

tjwolter
17-11-2016, 09:58
From earlier in this thread. When submitting for a Kickoff event I kept getting something that said Information Saved instead of, Yep, good to go. I called FIRST and they said that's how it functions. I will double check to make sure the Kickoff event has us down and that our KoP will be delivered there.

Some odd "intermittent glitches" with the site. It took weeks for our payment for Regionals to show up there. And with some back and forth on scheduling we have Waitlisted and Cancelled several options for a second Regional. I probably clicked the Drop button ten times on Northern Lights (sorry guys, maybe next year) and it refused to work. Until of course I had a nice lady from FIRST on the line. Then, click...done.

Its like taking your car to the shop because it was making a funny sound...until it stops doing so.

T.Wolter

Christopher149
17-11-2016, 16:53
The event list currently lists 147 events - I remember it being 145 for a few weeks. Which events are new? (all I know is that they are not in Michigan)

Edit: They must have been badly formatted, since they are now definitely showing as Michigan.

Mark McLeod
17-11-2016, 17:42
District Event FIM District - Gaylord Event, Gaylord High School, Gaylord, MI USA, 16-Mar - 18-Mar-2017

District Event FIM District - Shepherd Event, Shepherd High School, Shepherd, MI USA, 06-Apr - 08-Apr-2017


3200 Teams now

PS
- 21 resurrected vets
- 11 new vets
- 353 rookie teams
- 314 missing vets (10%)

Richard Wallace
17-11-2016, 18:48
The event list currently lists 147 events - I remember it being 145 for a few weeks. Which events are new? (all I know is that they are not in Michigan)

Or maybe they are. :eek:

District Event FIM District - Gaylord Event Gaylord High School Gaylord, MI USA 16-Mar - 18-Mar-2017

District Event FIM District - Shepherd Event Shepherd High School Shepherd, MI USA 06-Apr - 08-Apr-2017

Michigan just keeps chugging along. 61 rookie teams so far for 2017. ~96% YoY retention and 11% YoY growth. ~15% of FRC teams are from Michigan.

Michigan will hold 3 district events in Week 1, and four events per week in Weeks 2-6. Lots of busy people, especially key volunteers.

3200 Teams now

Wow.

waialua359
17-11-2016, 19:16
Hawaii just freed up 5 open slots to invite more teams, too.
In part to allow more China teams to come.

Michael Kaurich
18-11-2016, 10:14
Michigan just keeps chugging along. 61 rookie teams so far for 2017. ~96% YoY retention and 11% YoY growth. ~15% of FRC teams are from Michigan.

Michigan will hold 3 district events in Week 1, and four events per week in Weeks 2-6. Lots of busy people, especially key volunteers.


I am curious how that YoY retention is attained. Is it purely because of the funding from the State for registration costs? Or has the dream truly been realized where the program is in beaded in the school culture so well that when the lead mentor leaves there is a school push for a replacement?

Karibou
18-11-2016, 10:15
Michigan will hold 3 district events in Week 1, and four events per week in Weeks 2-6. Lots of busy people, especially key volunteers.

That is absolutely insane. Michigan key volunteers are champs.


- 314 missing vets (10%)
Apologies if I missed it elsewhere in the thread, but is that a typical amount of missing veterans compared to previous years? Can you do a breakdown of team age for the missing vets?

bobbysq
18-11-2016, 10:33
Iowa appears to be filled at 60 teams. I doubt they'll add any more waitlist slots unless an Iowa rookie shows up at the last minute.

Brandon Holley
18-11-2016, 10:45
Michigan will hold 3 district events in Week 1, and four events per week in Weeks 2-6. Lots of busy people, especially key volunteers.



Wow that is incredible.

Michigan officially needs its own Blue Alliance GameDay page each week....

Lil' Lavery
18-11-2016, 10:46
Apologies if I missed it elsewhere in the thread, but is that a typical amount of missing veterans compared to previous years? Can you do a breakdown of team age for the missing vets?

Until the Israeli teams register, I don't think too much should be read into that.

Mark McLeod
18-11-2016, 12:06
Apologies if I missed it elsewhere in the thread, but is that a typical amount of missing veterans compared to previous years? Can you do a breakdown of team age for the missing vets?
The average loss of veteran teams over the past 5 years has been 214/yr or an average retention rate of 92.4%
Last year the vet retention rate was 94.2%, the best it's ever been in any year.

I do have a breakdown, but I'm working an off-season for the next two days, so I won't be able to get to it right away.
We also have a week left to open registration and a bubble that typically peaks about two weeks later around mid-December then drops back over a couple of months as a few teams fail to make their payments or drop out due to other issues.
Israel is probably the largest block of missing vets, but locally Long Island also has four vets on waitlist that are trying to get resolved with the lack of playing space at the LI Regional. I'm sure other areas have common issues, too.

plnyyanks
18-11-2016, 12:13
Wow that is incredible.

Michigan officially needs its own Blue Alliance GameDay page each week....

That can be arranged :D

GeeTwo
18-11-2016, 12:18
Apologies if I missed it elsewhere in the thread, but is that a typical amount of missing veterans compared to previous years? Can you do a breakdown of team age for the missing vets?

Based on thes FRC Growth (https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148714) and FIRST FRC Participation (https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148632) threads, 8 or 9% is a typical attrition count. As Sean notes, Israel is not in yet, and there are likely a few other veterans who will get in just under the deadline.

I don't have my numbers from calculating this handy, but IIRC, attrition rates are a bit higher than average (12-15%) for the first two years, drop to about 9 or 10% for year three-to-four, and decay from there down to about 5-7% per year for teams with a decade of history.

Edit: Here's the link to the data (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hk161dKyluaitI57toJpqSEov0vOWOdbxhLjCt59HDQ/edit#gid=123264275) I used to calculate attrition rates, though not my results.

Richard Wallace
18-11-2016, 22:40
Michigan officially needs its own Blue Alliance GameDay page each week....

That can be arranged :D

For the past two seasons we've had this thing called RoboZone (http://www.robozonetv.com/). Excellent outreach tool, bringing FIRST to the small screen where proud grandmothers and communities can see it. Jim Zondag and Dan Kimura have done a great job providing analysis and color, while the professional broadcasters work their sports production magic. Robotics is a real high school sport in Michigan, as it is in many other regions.

Focussed TBA GameDay coverage would bring depth to the picture that insiders see, and that is also important.

Mark McLeod
20-11-2016, 18:06
We have our first rookie team from the Canadian Yukon Territory.
Whitehorse (I've even been there once).

Mark McLeod
20-11-2016, 20:06
Can you do a breakdown of team age for the missing vets?

This is how many years ago the team was originally founded, not how many years they have played though. Some of these teams didn't play in all intervening years.
Special note: There is at least one team, 2479, whose rookie year is listed as 2008, however the school first had a team as far back as 1993. So depending on how you want to think about it you might want to list them as a 9 year veteran rather than a 24 year veteran team. I just ran this off the All_FRC_Teams_Ever (http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/All_FRC_Teams_Ever.xls) database.
If you want unadjusted rookie years you can use GeeTwo's spreadsheet that he posted a link to below.

I took out the Israeli teams and the few vets languishing on waitlists that I know about.
That left 237 missing non-Israeli vets.

Years
since
Founding
1 ----- 46 are Missing (what would be second year teams if they come back this season)
2 ----- 43 Missing
3 ----- 29 Missing
4 ----- 25 Missing
5 ----- 21 Missing
6 ----- 18 Missing
7 ----- 12 Missing
8 ----- 13 Missing
9 ------ 6 Missing
10 ----- 2 Missing
11 ----- 3 Missing
12 ----- 1 Missing
13 ----- 6 Missing
14 ----- 2 Missing
15 ----- 2 Missing
16 ----- 2 Missing
17 ----- 1 Missing
19 ----- 2 Missing
20 ----- 1 Missing
24 ----- 2 Missing


P.S.
There's an attached pie chart comparing the relative percentages of each age group.
Remember though that younger age groups generally come from a larger pool of teams, so this chart does not reflect equal sampling.
I'll add a post later with relative percentages of the remaining rookie year populations (Thanksgiving grocery shopping takes precedence).

JohnFogarty
20-11-2016, 21:36
We have our first rookie team from the Canadian Yukon Territory.
Whitehorse (I've even been there once).

My mom was born there, she's ecstatic.

Jardanium
21-11-2016, 14:57
There is at least one team, 2479, whose rookie year is listed as 2008, however the school first had a team as far back as 1993.

2479 is an interesting one, I'm not quite sure they had a team in 1993 though. As far to my knowledge, the only team in North Minneapolis back in 1993 was one based out of North High School. We had a mentor on our team whose son was on the team back then. (the stories she told and yearbook she showed were so interesting!) This mentor had told us that the team lost the support of their primary sponsor, Honeywell, and died out. That team was never numbered either, so there really is no traceable history of them competing. We helped support the growth of a new robotics program at North High School, who now competes under 5637 (https://www.thebluealliance.com/team/5637).

I'm not sure if the original North High School team has connections to 2479 or not, but from what I've heard, it isn't likely. We also supported the "rebirth" of 2479 (https://www.thebluealliance.com/team/2479) these last two years based out of the Minneapolis College Prep Charter School, however the school shutdown last year, along with the rebirth of the Phoenix. It's a shame that a team has to die out when the school closes, however I have hope that maybe we'll see 2479 end up somewhere again, just like they did when the team started with us back in 2014. ;)

We have seen a bad retention rate when it came to teams sustaining in urban areas, with lack of funding, schools closing, or teachers leaving being common results. It's been a problem we've been working to solve in Minneapolis, but obviously some (like 2479) die off without being able to do anything about it. It's really hard to keep a team sustaining when a school closes and their entire student base separates to two high schools with FRC Teams.

From what I've seen lack of funding, school closings, and mentors leaving are the most common factors for teams dying out, but I wonder what else could cause it.

Brandon Holley
21-11-2016, 15:08
2479 is an interesting one, I'm not quite sure they had a team in 1993 though. As far to my knowledge, the only team in North Minneapolis back in 1993 was one based out of North High School. We had a mentor on our team whose son was on the team back then. (the stories she told and yearbook she showed were so interesting!) This mentor had told us that the team lost the support of their primary sponsor, Honeywell, and died out. That team was never numbered either, so there really is no traceable history of them competing. We helped support the growth of a new robotics program at North High School, who now competes under 5637 (https://www.thebluealliance.com/team/5637).

I'm not sure if the original North High School team has connections to 2479 or not, but from what I've heard, it isn't likely. We also supported the "rebirth" of 2479 (https://www.thebluealliance.com/team/2479) these last two years based out of the Minneapolis College Prep Charter School, however the school shutdown last year, along with the rebirth of the Phoenix. It's a shame that a team has to die out when the school closes, however I have hope that maybe we'll see 2479 end up somewhere again, just like they did when the team started with us back in 2014. ;)

We have seen a bad retention rate when it came to teams sustaining in urban areas, with lack of funding, schools closing, or teachers leaving being common results. It's been a problem we've been working to solve in Minneapolis, but obviously some (like 2479) die off without being able to do anything about it. It's really hard to keep a team sustaining when a school closes and their entire student base separates to two high schools with FRC Teams.

From what I've seen lack of funding, school closings, and mentors leaving are the most common factors for teams dying out, but I wonder what else could cause it.


If you spend some time digging through the Tecknokat's History Project: http://www.technokats.org/history-project/ you may be able to trace some of the early goings of the team.

These documents helped a lot in piecing the story of 125 together. We learned a ton about our team and were able to reestablish some connections to help get the full history back. Our team goes all the way back to the beginning in 1992, but we missed a year in 1995. The team that existed back then split into a couple different teams in 1997 which is why our rookie year is 1998.

Best
Brando

Daria Wing
21-11-2016, 18:50
Whaaaaaatttt?????? WHOA! So many robo-nerds <3

GeeTwo
21-11-2016, 20:29
From what I've seen lack of funding, school closings, and mentors leaving are the most common factors for teams dying out, but I wonder what else could cause it.

Apparently, stop build day (https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1588455#post1588455) was the bane of many teams.:p

Mark McLeod
21-11-2016, 20:59
Here's an expansion on the missing vets by rookie year.

# Missing – yrs ago – Rookie – # Surviving – % lost
1 ------- ( 12 years ) 2005 ------ 86 ---------- 1.2%
2 ------- ( 10 years ) 2007 ----- 114 ---------- 1.8%
1 ------- ( 17 years ) 2000 ------ 48 ---------- 2.1%
2 ------- ( 16 years ) 2001 ------ 75 ---------- 2.7%
2 ------- ( 15 years ) 2002 ------ 73 ---------- 2.7%
3 ------- ( 11 years ) 2006 ----- 102 ---------- 2.9%
1 ------- ( 20 years ) 1997 ------ 30 ---------- 3.3%
6 ------- ( 9 years -) 2008 ----- 173 ---------- 3.5%
2 ------- ( 14 years ) 2003 ------ 54 ---------- 3.7%
21 ------ ( 5 years -) 2012 ----- 290 ---------- 7.2%
12 ------ ( 7 years -) 2010 ----- 165 ---------- 7.3%
6 ------- ( 13 years ) 2004 ------ 82 ---------- 7.3%
13 ------ ( 8 years -) 2009 ----- 175 ---------- 7.4%
18 ------ ( 6 years -) 2011 ----- 234 ---------- 7.7%
2 ------- ( 19 years ) 1998 ------ 23 ---------- 8.7%
29 ------ ( 3 years -) 2014 ----- 305 ---------- 9.5%
25 ------ ( 4 years -) 2013 ----- 254 ---------- 9.8%
46 ------ ( 1 year --) 2016 ----- 410 --------- 11.2%
43 ------ ( 2 years -) 2015 ----- 329 --------- 13.1%
2 ------- ( 24 years ) 1993 ------- 3 --------- 66.7%

GeeTwo
21-11-2016, 21:27
Sorting Mark's number by year yields:

Years Attrition
1 11.2
2 13.1
3 9.5
4 9.8
5 7.2
6 7.7
7 7.3
8 7.4
9 3.5
10 1.8
11 2.9
12 1.2
13 7.3
14 3.7
15 2.7
16 2.7
17 2.1
19 8.7
20 3.3
24 66.7

After smoothing through the values beyond 8 years, this looks a lot like the usual attrition rate - biggest after two years, second biggest after first year, then improving steadily from third year to a long-term team.

Mark McLeod
21-11-2016, 22:07
2479 is an interesting one, I'm not quite sure they had a team in 1993 though...
Here is the reason, the team 2479 has drifted from school to school over the years.
Honeywell was the main sponsor for the early years, then General Mills for the resurgence beginning in 2008.
So it began again in North high school in 2008 & 2009 before moving to Dunwoody, then Metro Tech, then College Prep.
These are the school names registered with FIRST for each of the years they competed.

Year ----- School
2016 ----- Minneapolis College Prep High School
2015 ----- Minneapolis College Prep High School
2014 ----- Minneapolis College Preparatory School
2013 ----- MetroTech Career Academy
2012 ----- MetroTech Academy High School
2011 ----- Dunwoody Academy High School
2010 ----- Dunwoody Academy High School
2009 ----- North High School
2008 ----- North High School
1997 ----- North Community High School
1996 ----- North Community High School
1995 ----- North Community HS
1994 ----- North Community High School
1993 ----- North Community High School

Jardanium
21-11-2016, 22:51
Here is the reason, the team has drifted from school to school over the years.
Honeywell was the main sponsor for the early years, then General Mills for the resurgence beginning in 2008.
So it began again in North high school in 2008 & 2009 before moving to Dunwoody, then Metro Tech, then College Prep.


Wow! You learn something new everyday. Can't wait to tell my mentor tomorrow that the team we mentored was originally the North High team. Thank you for this info!

Mark McLeod
25-11-2016, 17:34
A school in Guam has started two teams-6308 & 6309.

Nate Laverdure
26-11-2016, 09:13
A school in Guam has started two teams-6308 & 6309.
http://i.imgur.com/322XYB5m.png

We welcome these teams to the GuamFIRST family!

Mark McLeod
28-11-2016, 11:56
Registration closed with 3251 teams on event lists.
There are probably around 50 or 60 teams not showing up because they are still on a waitlist somewhere, and rookie teams getting things together last minute (we have one local rookie who was still awaiting YPP clearance).
And of course, everyone from the Israeli District which hasn't made an appearance yet.

So expect that number of teams to continue climbing before dropping back again over the next few weeks.

Mark McLeod
29-11-2016, 09:07
One Israeli team has finally shown up as registered!
It's the first outward evidence that Israel is actually running waitlists for all their events.
So the Israeli teams are there, just not being shown to us.

The one team shows up because they have registered for an Inter-District at
2017 FIM District - Lake Superior State University Event

Koko Ed
29-11-2016, 10:53
One Israeli team has finally shown up as registered!
It's the first outward evidence that Israel is actually running waitlists for all their events.
So the Israeli teams are there, just not being shown to us.

The one team shows up because they have registered for an Inter-District at
2017 FIM District - Lake Superior State University Event

That is one long commute!

Richard Wallace
29-11-2016, 11:04
That is one long commute!Yes it is! For almost anyone.

It would be a 5.5 hour drive for me, and I live in Michigan. :rolleyes:

Best flight time from Tel Aviv that I saw is 12.5 hours, connecting through Toronto.

Christopher149
29-11-2016, 11:14
That is one long commute!

And, it means at least one team found an open spot in Michigan (funny though that they aren't from Ontario or Indiana).

I wonder if they plan to attend the Israel district champs - that event goes through March 30, but LSSU starts on March 30.

Yes it is! For almost anyone.

It would be a 5.5 hour drive for me, and I live in Michigan. :rolleyes:

Best flight time from Tel Aviv that I saw is 12.5 hours, connecting through Toronto.

I too live in Michigan, and it's a 5 hour drive (from my northwestern corner).

Mark McLeod
30-11-2016, 22:33
Events are still shuffling teams in and out.
3270 at the moment.


25 resurrected vets
12 new "vets"
402 Rookie teams
299 missing vets-9.6% attrition (or calculated another way: missing - resurrected =~ 8.8% overall attrition)
4.5% growth (but we're still missing all but one team from Israel)

Richard Wallace
30-11-2016, 22:54
Events are still shuffling teams in and out.
3270 at the moment.



299 missing vets-9.6% retention (or calculated another way: missing - resurrected =~ 8.8% overall retention)



I think the right word above would be "attrition".

Retention = 100% - Attrition

SoftwareBug2.0
30-11-2016, 22:58
Has there been any word on why the Israel district isn't getting its teams registered? What possible advantage could this have? It seems like all the events are in place since there seems to be an appropriate number of them and they all have venues listed.

nirmatt_1690
01-12-2016, 00:43
Registration for the israel district will open next week.

Mark McLeod
01-12-2016, 08:02
I think the right word above would be "attrition".

Retention = 100% - Attrition
Fixed that, thanks.
I originally typed the retention number then reversed it as I posted without really thinking about it.

Thanks too for the Israeli update.

Mark McLeod
01-12-2016, 11:11
Here's a chart or two to go along with this.

The red dots labeled "Self Parity" are where the yearly plotted lines each rose above that year's actual final registration total, i.e., teams were still being added in from the waitlists, but others eventually dropped out before competition play.
This year is unusual (in more ways than this) in that the entire Israeli contingent won't begin adding in until next week, so expect a 65 team bump.

P.S. Added the legend

Cothron Theiss
01-12-2016, 14:45
Here's a chart or two to go along with this.

The red dots labeled "Self Parity" are where the yearly plotted lines each rose above that year's actual final registration total, i.e., teams were still being added in from the waitlists, but others eventually dropped out before competition play.
This year is unusual (in more ways than this) in that the entire Israeli contingent won't begin adding in until next week, so expect a 65 team bump.

The graph showing self parity is very interesting. Any explanation for the dip in 2011 after kickoff?

Also, can you shed some light on the bar graph, especially what that slight blue/grey bar portion between the blue and yellow?

bobbysq
01-12-2016, 15:07
Also, can you shed some light on the bar graph, especially what that slight blue/grey bar portion between the blue and yellow?

I believe that's revived vets.

Mark McLeod
01-12-2016, 15:14
Yep, resurrected veteran teams.
I updated the image with a legend.
The red will decrease as the Israeli teams finally show up.

The 2011 dip was Washington state balancing experienced/rookie teams between the Cascade and Olympic regional playing fields (all at the same location). What they did was over several days they removed all the teams and then put them back onto different fields.
http://www.firstwa.org/Team-Resources/FIRST-Robotics-Competition-Team-Resources/FRC-Archived/-Archive-Seattle-2011-Field-Assignments

nuclearnerd
01-12-2016, 16:35
It's interesting to me that there was a relatively large growth, and/or low attrition after 2015, whereas this year seems to have a larger attrition rate. Can we conclude that Recycle Rush was better than Stronghold for team retention?

Jon Stratis
01-12-2016, 16:41
It's interesting to me that there was a relatively large growth, and/or low attrition after 2015, whereas this year seems to have a larger attrition rate. Can we conclude that Recycle Rush was better than Stronghold for team retention?

I don't think you can conclude that just yet. We're still missing all the Israeli teams, which should have a significant impact on the 299 missing vets we currently have. Mark's bar graph is the best way to run that comparison, once all the data is in. The line graph doesn't break out retention versus rookies.

Andrew Schreiber
01-12-2016, 16:49
It's interesting to me that there was a relatively large growth, and/or low attrition after 2015, whereas this year seems to have a larger attrition rate. Can we conclude that Recycle Rush was better than Stronghold for team retention?

Add into it that there's WAY too much that goes into retention/growth to make that claim. We'd have to account for economic conditions, grants, and probably a dozen things I haven't even thought of.

Mark McLeod
01-12-2016, 20:59
Israeli teams have begun to register.
Since it is now 4:30am their local time, I imagine they are being cleared one by one from waitlists by an insomniac there or by a late nighter at FIRST HQ.

That just took us past the 3300 team mark.

59 teams from Israel got moved to event lists.
6 Israeli rookie teams showing now.
9 vets from there are still missing.

P.S.
Why aren't the blue banners for Israel in Hebrew?

Mark McLeod
02-12-2016, 08:16
After the Israeli contingent was entered:

3336 total teams (at the moment)
26 resurrected vets
12 new "vets"
412 Rookie teams
244 missing vets-7.8% attrition (or calculated another way: missing - resurrected =~ 7.0% overall attrition)
6.6% growth

Returns are very similar to 2015 numbers-not as good as the 2016 season.

Here's another look at team retention (adjusted to include the effect of resurrected vets who dropped out in prior years).
And the registration plot showing that knee in the curve we've been waiting for.

Cothron Theiss
02-12-2016, 16:00
Here's another look at team retention (adjusted to include the effect of resurrected vets who dropped out in prior years).
And the registration plot showing that knee in the curve we've been waiting for.

I find it really interesting just how stable a lot of these numbers are over the years. The growth has been very linear, the team retention has been very stable since 2000 (barring the raise in registration costs for 2005), and the timelines of team registration have been relatively consistent. FRC has changed a lot over the years and existed through some very tumultuous times, but the participation and interest in FRC has remained impressively unchanged.

GaryVoshol
02-12-2016, 16:08
P.S.
Why aren't the blue banners for Israel in Hebrew?

Maybe because some of the teams speak Arabic?

Mark McLeod
03-12-2016, 17:16
Where From with a current headcount of 3344 teams:

458 ----- MI (District)
277 ----- CA
204 ----- MN
154 ----- NY
148 ----- Canada-ON (District)
147 ----- TX
106 ----- WA (District)
81 ------ Canada-QC/AB/BC/SK/YT (also broken out individually below)
76 ------ FL
76 ------ VA (District)
74 ------ NJ (District)
72 ------ MA (District)
71 ------ MO
68 ------ GA (District)
68 ------ Mexico
67 ------ PA (half District)
61 ------ OH
59 ------ Israel (District)
58 ------ AZ
58 ------ IL
58 ------ NC (District)
57 ------ WI
54 ------ China
51 ------ OK
50 ------ CT (District)
50 ------ OR (District)
49 ------ Australia
48 ------ IN (District)
47 ------ SC
43 ------ Canada-QC
38 ------ MD (District)
35 ------ CO
35 ------ TN
35 ------ Turkey
33 ------ LA
33 ------ NH (District)
28 ------ HI
26 ------ ME (District)
23 ------ Canada-AB
23 ------ KS
22 ------ IA
22 ------ UT
21 ------ AR
14 ------ DC (District)
14 ------ ID
12 ------ KY
11 ------ AL
11 ------ Canada-BC
9 ------- MS
9 ------- NV
7 ------- Brazil
6 ------- NM
6 ------- RI (District)
4 ------- DE (District)
4 ------- Vietnam
4 ------- VT (District)
4 ------- WY
3 ------- Canada-SK
3 ------- ND
3 ------- Taiwan
3 ------- United Kingdom
3 ------- WV
2 ------- Chile
2 ------- Dominican Republic
2 ------- France
2 ------- Guam
2 ------- India
2 ------- MT
2 ------- NE
2 ------- Netherlands
1 ------- AK (District)
1 ------- Canada-YT
1 ------- Colombia
1 ------- Czech Republic
1 ------- Ecuador
1 ------- Germany
1 ------- Japan
1 ------- Malaysia
1 ------- Morocco
1 ------- Poland
1 ------- Puerto Rico
1 ------- SD
1 ------- Singapore
1 ------- South Africa
1 ------- Switzerland

SenorZ
03-12-2016, 17:50
It's interesting to me that there was a relatively large growth, and/or low attrition after 2015, whereas this year seems to have a larger attrition rate. Can we conclude that Recycle Rush was better than Stronghold for team retention?

More of a "Ain't goin' out like that!" attitude, I think.

Nips
03-12-2016, 22:17
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2 ------- India
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There are 3 teams from India I am so excited. Sadly all qualify to Houston, so i won't be able to meet them.

Cothron Theiss
03-12-2016, 22:25
There are 3 teams from India I am so excited. Sadly all qualify to Houston, so i won't be able to meet them.

I find it interesting that all three Indian teams are from pretty far north. Do you know how those teams were formed?

Mark McLeod
03-12-2016, 22:31
Four India teams now.
You can ask Team 3132 about the one they helped start.
6024 started last year and might have spread the word.

New Delhi, DL India --- G D Goenka ----- 6578
Mumbai, MH India ----- Neighborhood Group ----- 6024
Mumbai, MH India ----- DSB International School ----- 6511
Kolkata, WB India ----- FRC Team 3132 & South City International School ----- 6577

Still a 45 hour drive to visit each team.

Sadly all qualify to Houston, so i won't be able to meet them.
You could visit NY Tech Valley or Hudson Valley to meet one of them, not too far from Ontario.

Mark McLeod
05-12-2016, 20:00
The official language(s) of all the countries participating in FRC this season:

Arabic
Chamorro
Czech
Dutch/Papiamento/Frisian
English
French
German
Hebrew
Hindi
Japanese
Malay/Tamil
Malaysian
Mandarin
Polish
Portuguese
Romansh/Italian
Southern Sotho/Tsonga/Afrikaans/Tswana/Swati/Xhosa/Northern Sotho/Ndebele/Zulu/Venda/South African English
Spanish
Turkish
Vietnamese

Mark McLeod
10-12-2016, 10:08
So, since registration closed on November 28 and our initial payments were due, there remains a lot of activity bringing teams in off the waitlists to events. It's still going on, so this is just a snapshot.

Between Nov 28 and now:

Added
84 - veteran teams
46 - rookie teams

Lost
16 - veteran teams
7 -- rookie teams


We are right around the historical high point that registration always reaches before it begins to drop back.
28 resurrected vets
8 new vet teams
428 rookies
2898 returning veterans
232 teams missing from last season (7.4%)Coincidentally, we also have 7.4% growth at this point over last season's final total.
However, we are only showing 5.7% growth over this same date last year.

Zealii
14-12-2016, 17:13
Some of the District wait lists have been cleared for Inter District teams. So excited to be heading out to SW Virginia Week 1!

Mark McLeod
16-12-2016, 12:53
Add Danish as one of the official languages spoken by 2017 FRC teams.
A different Danish team than the community one from last year. This one is headed for Las Vegas.

SenorZ
16-12-2016, 15:20
Add Danish as one of the official languages spoken by 2017 FRC teams.
A different Danish team than the community one from last year. This one is headed for Las Vegas.

Wonder if they'll play saxophone for their national anthem like the team last year?

Mark McLeod
23-12-2016, 19:21
We seem to have passed the peak and are slowly subsiding.

First attached chart is a graph of area gains ranked by percentage of total 2016 teams.
Second chart is by total gain (loss) -teams with zero gain/loss were left off to declutter.

New Areas this year (# teams)
Guam --------- 2
Malaysia ------ 1
Morocco ------ 1
Switzerland --- 1
Vietnam ------ 1
Canada-YT --- 1


Established areas Gain/Loss as a % (so low team areas have the opportunity to make the greatest gain as a percentage, e.g., British Columbia had 1 team last year and gained 10 more for a 1000% gain.
Gain/Loss ---- State ---- 2017 Total

1000.0%------ Canada-BC - 11
100.0%------- France ----- 2
100.0%------- India ------- 2
100.0%------- MT --------- 2
100.0%------- NE --------- 2
83.3% ------- IA --------- 22
50.0% ------- Turkey ----- 30
50.0% ------- Canada-SK -- 3
37.1% ------- China ------ 48
28.2% ------- Australia --- 50
27.8% ------- Mexico ---- 69
23.5% ------- AR -------- 21
20.0% ------- NM --------- 6
18.8% ------- WI -------- 57
18.0% ------- AZ -------- 59
16.7% ------- Brazil ------- 7
16.3% ------- OR -------- 50
15.4% ------- GA -------- 75
14.3% ------- UT -------- 24
12.5% ------- NH -------- 36
10.2% ------- MI ------- 454
9.4%- ------- NC -------- 58
8.6%- ------- FL -------- 76
8.3%- ------- ME -------- 26
8.1%- ------- CA ------- 279
7.7%- ------- TX ------- 154
7.7%- ------- DC -------- 14
7.3%- ------- Canada-ON - 147
7.0%- ------- SC -------- 46
5.3%- ------- NY ------- 158
4.8%- ------- Canada-AB - 22
4.5%- ------- KS -------- 23
4.3%- ------- MA -------- 72
4.2%- ------- CT -------- 50
3.8%- ------- HI --------- 27
3.2%- ------- Israel ------ 64
2.9%- ------- TN -------- 35
1.7%- ------- OH -------- 60
0.5%- ------- MN ------- 208
0.0%- ------- OK -------- 51
0.0%- ------- LA -------- 34
0.0%- ------- ID -------- 15
0.0%- ------- AL -------- 11
0.0%- ------- MS -------- 9
0.0%- ------- NV --------- 9
0.0%- ------- RI ---------- 6
0.0%- ------- DE --------- 4
0.0%- ------- VT --------- 4
0.0%- ------- WY -------- 4
0.0%- ------- ND --------- 3
0.0%- ------- Taiwan ----- 3
0.0%- ------- United Kingdom - 3
0.0%- ------- Chile ------- 2
0.0%- ------- Dominican Republic -- 2
0.0%- ------- Netherlands - 2
0.0%- ------- SD --------- 2
0.0%- ------- AK --------- 1
0.0%- ------- Colombia --- 1
0.0%- ------- Czech Republic - 1
0.0%- ------- Denmark ---- 1
0.0%- ------- Ecuador ---- 1
0.0%- ------- Germany --- 1
0.0%- ------- Poland ----- 1
0.0%- ------- PR --------- 1
0.0%- ------- Singapore -- 1
-1.4% ------- MO -------- 72
-1.7% ------- IL --------- 57
-2.0% ------- IN -------- 48
-2.6% ------- VA -------- 76
-2.6% ------- NJ -------- 74
-2.8% ------- CO -------- 35
-2.9% ------- PA -------- 67
-4.4% ------- Canada-QC - 43
-4.9% ------- MD -------- 39
-7.0% ------- WA ------- 106
-7.7% ------- KY -------- 12
-25.0%------- WV -------- 3
-50.0%------- Japan ------ 1
-100.0%------ Bosnia-Herzegovina - 0



Total Gain/Loss by area (areas left off had a zero net gain).
Gain/Loss ----- State/Country
42 ---- MI
21 ---- CA
15 ---- Mexico
13 ---- China
11 ---- Australia
11 ---- TX
10 ---- Canada-BC
10 ---- IA
10 ---- Turkey
10 ---- GA
10 ---- Canada-ON
9 ----- WI
9 ----- AZ
8 ----- NY
7 ----- OR
6 ----- FL
5 ----- NC
4 ----- AR
4 ----- NH
3 ----- UT
3 ----- SC
3 ----- MA
2 ----- Guam
2 ----- ME
2 ----- CT
2 ----- Israel
1 ----- Malaysia
1 ----- Morocco
1 ----- Switzerland
1 ----- Vietnam
1 ----- Canada-YT
1 ----- France
1 ----- India
1 ----- MT
1 ----- NE
1 ----- Canada-SK
1 ----- NM
1 ----- Brazil
1 ----- DC
1 ----- Canada-AB
1 ----- KS
1 ----- HI
1 ----- TN
1 ----- OH
1 ----- MN
-1 ---- MO
-1 ---- IL
-1 ---- IN
-1 ---- CO
-1 ---- KY
-1 ---- WV
-1 ---- Japan
-1 ---- Bosnia-Herzegovina
-2 ---- VA
-2 ---- NJ
-2 ---- PA
-2 ---- Canada-QC
-2 ---- MD
-8 ---- WA


Zero gain areas:
AK, AL, Chile, Colombia, Czech Republic, DE, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Germany, ID, LA, MS, ND, Netherlands, NV, OK, Poland, PR, RI, SD, Singapore, Taiwan, United Kingdom, VT, WY