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Due to a rare leak of information, I have it on absolute 100% certainity that there will be goal(s) involved in this year's game. Since these goals must be built, I can safely assume they will be made from matter, elements found in this universes periodic table of elements.
Wow, the suspense is all over now.;)
Joe Matt
16-12-2002, 20:48
NEWS BRIEFING!!!
The field will have a FLOOR!!
:rolleyes:
Ken Leung
16-12-2002, 20:51
Originally posted by Dr.Bot
Due to a rare leak of information, I have it on absolute 100% certainity that there will be goal(s) involved in this year's game. Since these goals must be built, I can safely assume they will be made from matter, elements found in this universes periodic table of elements.
Wow, the suspense is all over now.;)
If there's goals, do that mean there will be balls AGAIN~!? Ahhhhhhhhhh!
They better be goal(s) you can put inflatable baseball bats in.
sanddrag
16-12-2002, 21:02
THIS JUST IN - ROBOTS WILL INDEED BE COMPETING IN THE ANNUAL FIRST ROBOTICS COMPETITION.
Stay tuned for more crucial information to come.
Rob Colatutto
16-12-2002, 21:20
i think thier might be some air surrounding the playing surface
sanddrag
16-12-2002, 21:44
Originally posted by Nataku
i think thier might be some air surrounding the playing surface
How sure are you about that? The field may be in a vacuum.
Aaron Lussier
16-12-2002, 21:44
A little birdy told me we would be running on Grey Carpet.
Joe Matt
16-12-2002, 21:53
Just got off the phone with someone called Deep Throat, and it seems like this year, shhh!, there will be lighting on the field!!!
What there are going to be ROBOTS in the competition this year!?!?!?!!? :confused:
sanddrag
16-12-2002, 22:28
Originally posted by MattK
What there are going to be ROBOTS in the competition this year!?!?!?!!? :confused:
Please keep in mind it's only rumor at this point. But a source of mine tells me he did overhear Dean speaking about this aspect of the 2003 competition over lunch at Denny's. Dean and someone else (another FIRST Staff member?) were sitting across the dining hall, but through the use of the Sonic Ear (As Seen on TV) my source was able to hear their converstation.
D.J. Fluck
16-12-2002, 22:28
I heard the field was one big electromagnet :p
Woodie: "1 2 3 Go!"
*Flips on Voltage Source*
The goal of the game is to build a robot that wont get magnetized to the field, using a magnetic insulator :-p
anyway
Originally posted by Ken L
If there's goals, do that mean there will be balls AGAIN~!? Ahhhhhhhhhh!
They better be goal(s) you can put inflatable baseball bats in.
Just beacause there are goals doesnt mean they are balls
I havent heard anything, nor do I know any inside info on this subject, but its a possibility. Heck you could be picking up giant square blocks or pyramid shaped squeezable items.
Originally posted by Dr.Bot
Due to a rare leak of information, I have it on absolute 100% certainity that there will be goal(s) involved in this year's game. Since these goals must be built, I can safely assume they will be made from matter, elements found in this universes periodic table of elements.
You must have seen a different rare leak of information than I did. I heard that there would be goals, but no construction would be required. Instead, each kit would include seven "Carter's Little Goal Pills" and one Alludium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator. Turning the Alludium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator on the pills would cause them to phase shift through a minute wormhole from the X dimension (where all the Alludium Phosdex is kept) to automatically deploy the entire play field, goals, scoring objects, and the necessary artificial snow-making equipment.
But, of course, I could be wrong.
-dave
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Y = AX^2 + BX + C
rees2001
17-12-2002, 07:45
Dave what was that little hint at the bottom of your message?????
Y = AX^2 + BX + C, you been talking with woodie?
Kris Verdeyen
17-12-2002, 11:01
I think Dave might be channeling Marvin the Martian. If he tries to blow up the Earth to get a better view of Venus, then we'll know for sure.
Oh - and...uh.... I've heard that traction will be an issue in this year's game.
Tim_Wochomurka
17-12-2002, 11:58
Traction... could this mean Ice or something?
D.J. Fluck
17-12-2002, 12:17
Originally posted by Tim_Wochomurka
Traction... could this mean Ice or something?
I highly doubt ice. Ever been to a hockey game?? They would have to keep the competition site that cold throughout the whole competition weekend. Many venues are not equipted to carry air equipment required to freeze the ice, so then they would be forced to buy or rent them and that would cost extra $$$.
Im sure ice is out of the question.
Well, without any traction, our robots wouldn't move :)
(Shy of building flying/floating machines, anyway)
Originally posted by M. Krass
Well, without any traction, our robots wouldn't move :)
(Shy of building flying/floating machines, anyway)
That's it, we figured it out...flying machines.....
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Yes, the square WILL go through the circle hole if you push hard enough!
Chubtoad
17-12-2002, 14:31
I heard that there may be incidents when operating the "robots" where FRICTION might exist!! Then another person ::wink wink:: told me that the entire thing might be frictionless, so nothing could go anywhere!!! THE POSSIBILITIES!
Originally posted by Chubtoad
told me that the entire thing might be frictionless, so nothing could go anywhere!!! THE POSSIBILITIES!
A truely frictionless surface is virtually impossible.
Besides, if it were frictionless, you could use airjets to move around. (fans, etc).
Rob Colatutto
17-12-2002, 16:36
Originally posted by Jnadke
Besides, if it were frictionless, you could use airjets to move around. (fans, etc).
now thats an idea....mount solenoids on the back of the bot to fire in short bursts to propel the robot
Chubtoad
17-12-2002, 17:30
Originally posted by Jnadke
Besides, if it were frictionless, you could use airjets to move around. (fans, etc).
I'm talking NO FRICTION, like NO AIR EITHER!! so therefore you would have NOTHING to propulse against! TOTALLY FRICTIONLESS!!!! NO GRAVITY EITHER!! CRAZY!!
Wayne C.
17-12-2002, 18:26
I heard that all robots would be powered by the potential energy of falling sand. Each machine will start the round with a reservoir of 100 lbs of beach sand and it is up to the teams to make the falling sand do the work to move the machine. Of course, since the sand weighs 100 lbs the rest of the robot can only weigh 30 lbs.
Robots can steal sand from their neighbors during one round to have an advantage for the next round. Sand falling on the floor is forfeit.
Of course the Placebo vacuum cleaner from 1998 will be reactivated for after round cleanup.
WC
Originally posted by Chubtoad
I'm talking NO FRICTION, like NO AIR EITHER!! so therefore you would have NOTHING to propulse against! TOTALLY FRICTIONLESS!!!! NO GRAVITY EITHER!! CRAZY!!
I think it'd be tough building rockets with stuff from Small Parts. I hope FIRST has found a good aerospace supplies firm...
Sand! Of course! Sand would be an excellent propellant...
Originally posted by Chubtoad
I'm talking NO FRICTION, like NO AIR EITHER!! so therefore you would have NOTHING to propulse against! TOTALLY FRICTIONLESS!!!! NO GRAVITY EITHER!! CRAZY!!
No gravity = no mass. Nothing. Period. No competition. No students. No robot. It's impossible to have no gravity and still have mass. Gravity is the attraction between two masses.
Since there is nothing around the playing field (or even no playing field), it's safe to say there's no FIRST competition, since it isn't a FIRST competition without kids.
I'm still one step ahead of you... :D
Originally posted by Jnadke
No gravity = no mass. Nothing. Period. No competition. No students. No robot. It's impossible to have no gravity and still have mass. Gravity is the attraction between two masses.
Since there is nothing around the playing field (or even no playing field), it's safe to say there's no FIRST competition, since it isn't a FIRST competition without kids.
I'm still one step ahead of you... :D
Who said we would use the conventional laws of physics? We’d use FirstPhysics! - Here you can have mass w/o having gravity. Duhh... :)
marlon_jbt
17-12-2002, 22:11
I heard that the robots will move! (Lame)
Seriously though, these comments are really mean.
AJ Quick
17-12-2002, 22:17
I heard the machine needs to purify water, and generate electricity.
Keeping in mind that FIRST will own the rights to everything you do.
Gadget470
17-12-2002, 22:29
Prototype Finished!!!
After compiling all the information leaks in this game, I have come up with the perfect solution!
http://nasaexplores.com/lessons/02-023/images/da-vinci-copter2.jpg
You're all going down, because I'm going up!
SlamminSammy
17-12-2002, 22:57
Originally posted by Jack
Who said we would use the conventional laws of physics? We’d use FirstPhysics! - Here you can have mass w/o having gravity. Duhh... :)
What's your definition of gravity? Gravity is the result of mass bending space-time. It is the bending of space time. Modifying space-time could prove to be difficult, but if Dave's right (and they're using multi-dimensional wormholes) I guess they're going to need to solve that problem anyway to prevent multiple particles (and strings) from phasing into a singular form. Of course, FIRST could just use diamagnetic levitation to nullify the gravity caused by Earth (see Floating Frogs (http://www-hfml.sci.kun.nl/froglev.html)). Oh great, now my brain hurts :(.
Originally posted by SlamminSammy
What's your definition of gravity? Gravity is the result of mass bending space-time. It is the bending of space time. Modifying space-time could prove to be difficult, but if Dave's right (and they're using multi-dimensional wormholes) I guess they're going to need to solve that problem anyway to prevent multiple particles (and strings) from phasing into a singular form. Of course, FIRST could just use diamagnetic levitation to nullify the gravity caused by Earth (see Floating Frogs (http://www-hfml.sci.kun.nl/froglev.html)). Oh great, now my brain hurts :(.
Is it too late to sign up for those rookie workshops?
:)
Mike Schroeder
18-12-2002, 01:09
Okay my team will hurt me for letting this out, but team 25 always brings 2 robots to every competition,
our competing one, and ME
most of you will say ?
wrap me in aluminum foil and vola!!!! instant robot, there is just the weight issue we have never quite worked out..............
E. The Kidd
18-12-2002, 01:29
Originally posted by "Big Mike"
Okay my team will hurt me for letting this out, but team 25 always brings 2 robots to every competition,
our competing one, and ME
most of you will say ?
wrap me in aluminum foil and vola!!!! instant robot, there is just the weight issue we have never quite worked out..............
drill holes, that should fix it
I heard from a good source who heard from a minor functionary of FIRST that there will be goals and drivetrains will be required. Imagine that, they want our robots to move this time around.
AJ Quick
18-12-2002, 17:41
Originally posted by SlamminSammy
What's your definition of gravity? Gravity is the result of mass bending space-time. It is the bending of space time. Modifying space-time could prove to be difficult, but if Dave's right (and they're using multi-dimensional wormholes) I guess they're going to need to solve that problem anyway to prevent multiple particles (and strings) from phasing into a singular form.
Heh. If we just used hyper-space (wormholes) right now to look ahead, and find out what the object will be this year, it would be so much easier!
Aaron Lussier
18-12-2002, 22:39
Yea actually I have a worm hole in my back yard let me just take a look in to the future hold on a sec...... OH MY GOD I HAVE SEEN IT I know what its going to be, but becasue I forgot to bring a pen and paper and time travel often erases 80% of your memory I cant remember. AHHHH MY SPLEEN, I though they fixed that bug in the worm hole AHHH its liquifing AHHHH!!!!
P.S I did not actually go forward in time just wanted to give everybody a good laugh just so you know
Jim Meyer
19-12-2002, 11:26
I actually heard we would be playing on Pergo synthetic flooring this year. The non-glue kind that just snaps together.
This was done to eliminate the "file card" problem where now everyone will need to use friction to propel their robot (as opposed to carpet fiber engagement).
Originally posted by Jim Meyer
I actually heard we would be playing on Pergo synthetic flooring this year. The non-glue kind that just snaps together.
This was done to eliminate the "file card" problem where now everyone will need to use friction to propel their robot (as opposed to carpet fiber engagement).
Except for the fact that the Pergo floor would get devastaded by the robots. I have one, and my mother knows how easy they dent due to repeated demonstrations.:rolleyes:
Wetzel
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaa
rees2001
19-12-2002, 11:59
Well I heard from a source who heard from his source deep within FIRST that instead of Pergo flooring (their first choice) they are going to use prego spaghetti sauce as a flooring material. A fairly frictionless substance... at least to my intestines.
Heard that there won't be a Human player and No coaches - (guess that will stop the complaining about cutting it down to 1 coach from 2 - last year)
Oh, I forgot to add that 16 of the 130lbs. limit is dedicated to a 16 lb Bowling Bowl that each robot must carryover to a ramp and roll down the ramp to determine the scoring multiplier (bowling for mulipliers!) Each team provides there own ball and it starts somewhere inside your bot!
E. The Kidd
20-12-2002, 02:52
I think it would be really funny if FIRST took these jokes seriously and used them for the 2004 game
rees2001
20-12-2002, 07:56
the information for shipping & drayage just came out &
its says
Team Operator Badges: These are for the 2 operators, 1 human player, and 1 mentor.
The mentor can be a student or adult, but he/she cannot score
points or operate the robot.
So it looks like things have not changed.
Would a nerf floor be cool or what!
Just imagine 130 lbs. of robot sinking into the floor! he he he
Katie Reynolds
20-12-2002, 13:57
Originally posted by T967
Would a nerf floor be cool or what!
Just imagine 130 lbs. of robot sinking into the floor! he he he
Oh my - talk about a quest to make your robot lighter. :D
- Katie
Ken Leung
22-12-2002, 04:46
Straight from the west coast regional director Jason Morrella himself:
There will be no more than 10 goals in the game
There is no scoring in this year's game
Human players will be wearing retro-reflecting tape
Truth or not? Yolu be the judge...
I had heard a slight variant of that. I heard that Jason would be wrapped in retroreflectve tape, and teams could not score until they had their robots drop him into the goal at least 10 times.
I wonder if you get double points if you drop him on his head? :)
-dave
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Y = AX^2 + BX + C
Ken Leung
22-12-2002, 06:51
Originally posted by dlavery
I had heard a slight variant of that. I heard that Jason would be wrapped in retroreflectve tape, and teams could not score until they had their robots drop him into the goal at least 10 times.
I wonder if you get double points if you drop him on his head? :)
-dave
I bet if we feed him enough krispy cream donuts we will get a multiplier or some sort. Even better, if we drop him upside down into a goal full of donuts, he get to try fishing out donuts during the 10 times we drop him in.
Hmm... 10 seems to be the magic number...
Sweet! This years game according to Jason (via Ken), indicates that the game is a DECATHLON (10 events or GOALS to achieve), and the winner is the team that accumulates the most points from participating in those ten events. Just think, you'll need speed for the 10 meter race, power for the weight lifting/tractor pull, the ability to throw a javelin and shot putt. Etc, etc, etc....
Thus no scoring, as we know it and it also supports the announcement by FIRST that there will be many format changes! NO ALLIANCES, 10 goals, and the parabola/projectile formula (hint) is tied into the event by the ability to throw a nerf javelin! Whew... that's alot to think about!
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