Can your robot go under the bar? [Archive]

Ken Leung

11-01-2003, 10:35

Take a look at the discussion here:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16025

The only reason to not build a robot that go under the bar is that 14" is really small to fit under, and some of your ability might be limited if you choose to build a robot that small.

The top of ramp is so slipery and huge that most robot should be able to pass through it during matches.

I have a feeling some would rather stack up 15 bins than go under the bar, or have the ability to protect a stack with the whole robot.

Madison

11-01-2003, 10:45

I don't think the choices of this poll are indicative of all possibilities.

Ian W.

11-01-2003, 14:26

Originally posted by M. Krass
I don't think the choices of this poll are indicative of all possibilities.

hmm, yes, i don't either. also, what about if someone made a modular bot, in which in one mode it could, but couldn't in other modes? need more choices! :p

Scorpion515

11-01-2003, 15:02

please people! im just asking a really simple question. if it isn't yes or no, then say maybe! if the robot @ any point in the competition can go under the bar your answer is: YES!

if it can not go under the bar at any point of the competition, say: NO!

and if you feel like being secretive or have not decided yet, say:Maybe/ Not Saying.

please submit ur answer. im just trying to find this out for my teams sake.

:ahh:

jill

Katie Reynolds

11-01-2003, 18:59

In theory, yes :)

- Katie

rbayer

11-01-2003, 19:02

Originally posted by Katie Reynolds
In theory, yes :)

- Katie

Good point. Our current design will let us go under, but if we can't fit everything we need in 14", that may change sometime around week 5 or early week 6...

Digo

11-01-2003, 19:12

what robot???

;) :( :confused:

Todd Derbyshire

11-01-2003, 20:04

Yes, No, Maybe So

DaBruteForceGuy

11-01-2003, 20:14

im sry, i wasn't listening.. could u say that again?

Ianworld

11-01-2003, 20:36

Perhaps, its a possibility, :P

My team probably will. Most of the designs we've come up with have an arm to stack and thus can fold down. Also we have a design of a giant box, like the ball gatherers from last year that could fit under the bar and of course internally stack boxes.(A really cool method ;) ) I think every team could but I don't think it is that necessary. My team is just afraid of the moving wall that we can't get past. (we don't want to build one though ;) too boring) Remeber pieces of the robot can always start vertically and then fold down. I've heard the horror stories of Chiefdelphis robot two years ago ^_^.(i wasn't there) They're all terrified of them now.

good luck!

Mike Schroeder

11-01-2003, 20:40

anyone who remebers 25 from 2001 will understand this :

who says you gotta go under the bar, there is another direction you could take :P

HolyMasamune

11-01-2003, 20:43

We're designing it so that the robot will go under the bar...but there's always a possibility of failing =(

Scorpion515

11-01-2003, 23:13

thanks for the feedback.

jill

Gadget470

11-01-2003, 23:26

Originally posted by "Big Mike"
anyone who remebers 25 from 2001 will understand this :
who says you gotta go under the bar, there is another direction you could take :P

If you don't know team 25:
http://www.firstrobotics.net/01gallery/025-3.jpg

AJ Quick

12-01-2003, 00:17

Originally posted by rbayer
Good point. Our current design will let us go under, but if we can't fit everything we need in 14", that may change sometime around week 5 or early week 6...

Don't say that!

Originally posted by Gadget470
If you don't know team 25:
(Image)

Ok.. now that is awesome. ;)

Rob Colatutto

12-01-2003, 00:35

i saw that at your teams competition, team 25...and i knew from then on that your just plain crazy. but none the less, it is really nice, i'm expecting there to be probably 2 or 3 bots this year able to do that, based off your example from 2001

John_Maniacs

14-01-2003, 18:37

well, it's not limited to going under or over the bar. Let's go through it, heh. :-)

Rickertsen2

14-01-2003, 19:05

hey thats a cool idea

srjjs

14-01-2003, 19:23

As long as you don't damage the field.

EvilInside

14-01-2003, 22:44

I'm thinking a jumping robot would be extremely cool. I mean, come on, jumping over the bar, and being able to jump on top of robots on the ramp to get 25 points, and jumping over defending robots to knock over stacks, etc. Of course, I'm already putting my energy into building a helicopter robot, although the number of pictures on Gadget's computer has blown my mind and now I am unable to think . . . . .

BBFIRSTCHICK

14-01-2003, 23:01

As of now our bot cannot go under the bar, but if we make it modular...then hopefully! :)

Funny

15-01-2003, 00:33

Uh... about going over the bar. Doesn't GM28 make that a little hard? Maybe I'm just interpretting the rule wrong.

Jeremy L

15-01-2003, 12:00

who sez that going under the bar and making stacks are mutually exclusive? flashback to two years ago: "nobody can make a robot to go under the bar AND lift the ball to the top of the goal." solution: see left. yes, it did both. anything is possible. our bot could go 13 feet high and is around 14" tall. 13 feet is around 8 bins or so, right?
in resopnse to another point: if your robot has the option of being able to go under the bar and not being able to go under the bar, doesn't that weigh a lot?

Anarkissed

15-01-2003, 12:21

Originally posted by EvilInside
I'm thinking a jumping robot would be extremely cool. I mean, come on, jumping over the bar, and being able to jump on top of robots on the ramp to get 25 points, and jumping over defending robots to knock over stacks, etc. Of course, I'm already putting my energy into building a helicopter robot, although the number of pictures on Gadget's computer has blown my mind and now I am unable to think . . . . .

are you really building a helicopter robot? if you are do you think you could send me some info on it, that would be very sweet... :)

ChewyMasterFlex

15-01-2003, 22:04

Originally posted by Ken L
Take a look at the discussion here:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16025

The only reason to not build a robot that go under the bar is that 14" is really small to fit under, and some of your ability might be limited if you choose to build a robot that small.

The top of ramp is so slipery and huge that most robot should be able to pass through it during matches.

I have a feeling some would rather stack up 15 bins than go under the bar, or have the ability to protect a stack with the whole robot.

I have an design that can go under the bar AND stack up to like 8...hehehe....

Mike Schroeder

15-01-2003, 22:36

Originally posted by Funny
Uh... about going over the bar. Doesn't GM28 make that a little hard? Maybe I'm just interpretting the rule wrong. GM28 Robots may not intentionally:
· Detach Parts (no connection at all to a robot);
· Remove the lids from the containers;
· Damage another robot;
· Tip over another robot;
· Attach themselves to the ramp mesh or framing material;
· Attach themselves to the railings/walls of any field structure. In 2k1, we didnt attach to the structre, we put the "forks over the structue, i think GM-28 mean permanatly attaching somthing, but there has always been a rule like that in the past

OneAngryDaisy

15-01-2003, 22:39

Team 25- Didn't you also put your forks on the wooden 2x4 piece under the metal railing? could you guys have gone over the bar if that piece wasn't there?