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Raven_Writer
01-02-2003, 22:40
Hello all ChiefDelphi members and/or visitors! I have a special request to all of you. I am wanting to be website designer when I get older, and Dave... has let me edit our robotics site. Please tell me what you hate/like/whatever by viewing the site here (http://www.robocards.org).
Overall, it's very clean and well-organized, with fairly reliable navigation menus. A few things I did notice:
1. The whole team link under "members" doesn't work.
2. The pictures take a long time to load and appear to be approx. 500k each. Is there any way you could make them smaller? At 500k a piece, they're going to rip through your bandwidth pretty darn quick.
3. On the main page you have "gratuitous thank you". My guess would be that you mean "gracious", or some other such word. Probably a good thing to change before one of your sponsors checks out your site :D.
--Rob
Raven_Writer
01-02-2003, 22:59
Originally posted by rbayer
Overall, it's very clean and well-organized, with fairly reliable navigation menus. A few things I did notice:
1. The whole team link under "members" doesn't work.
2. The pictures take a long time to load and appear to be approx. 500k each. Is there any way you could make them smaller? At 500k a piece, they're going to rip through your bandwidth pretty darn quick.
3. On the main page you have "gratuitous thank you". My guess would be that you mean "gracious", or some other such word. Probably a good thing to change before one of your sponsors checks out your site :D.
Thanks...in response:
1. I'll fix that Yea, Dave wanted me to fix the organization of how it looked all in general, and so I renamed/deleted team.htm
2. I'm not sure, Dave... took them, I just added them. I'll check to see if I can though.
3. I didn't type that stuff, I just added a few small changes here and there on that page. But thanks for the eye ;)
Again...thank you for your response.
AJ Quick
01-02-2003, 23:22
It looks very nice. I'm not a fan of frames, or the menu type script though. You could easily acheive the same appearence of the site by using SSI, or PHP includes. The image sizes definately need to be compressed, they were slow loading on a T1 connection. I tested it in IE 6.0, but I know for sure that it probably doesn't appear the way you want it in other browsers.
You've got the basis for a good site.. good information, lots of information, and good appearance.
Raven_Writer
01-02-2003, 23:27
Originally posted by AJ Quick
It looks very nice. I'm not a fan of frames, or the menu type script though. You could easily acheive the same appearence of the site by using SSI, or PHP includes. The image sizes definately need to be compressed, they were slow loading on a T1 connection. I tested it in IE 6.0, but I know for sure that it probably doesn't appear the way you want it in other browsers.
You've got the basis for a good site.. good information, lots of information, and good appearance.
Our host only allows ASP scripting. Matt and I got really mad at that earlier today. Yea, I've been contemplating on how to do the image file reduction thing (not hard, just don't want to lose quality). JPEG (which is what all our images are) has the best compression rate ratio. The frames and top-menu was not my idea (I just joined this team this year, so I'm going off of what it was last year, and I can't change it, so...). Thanks.
The images were a bit slow loading.
The text up at the top was jumbled.
If you're going for the design award, you're going to want some more interactivity on your site--i.e., forums, chats, etc.
That said, it isn't a bad team website. But for the award, you'll need to take it up a notch.
--Petey
Gadget470
01-02-2003, 23:31
Do what I did for 247's site. Put a folder of thumbnails into Domain.com/Images/Thumbs/ for each thumbnail, have a standard prefix. Such as T_Image.jpg
Where you link your images, change the link to be:
<a href="src="Images/Image.jpg"><img src="Images/Thumbs/T_Image.jpg"></a>
as apoosed to
<a href="src="Images/Image.jpg"><img src="Images/Image.jpg"></a>
Raven_Writer
01-02-2003, 23:32
Originally posted by Petey
The images were a bit slow loading.
The text up at the top was jumbled.
If you're going for the design award, you're going to want some more interactivity on your site--i.e., forums, chats, etc.
That said, it isn't a bad team website. But for the award, you'll need to take it up a notch.
--Petey
I should (in which everyone should know if they read this thread all the way) that I'm working on the image loading problem, and hope to get it done A.S.A.P.
We have a forums, check out the Community part of the menu (last menu option).
Gadget> We don't even a link to blow up the pictures to a bigger size (except for a few that's noted). But thanks for the idea.
Gadget470
01-02-2003, 23:35
In that case, resize the images via photoshop to 20% smaller and then reduce image quality by 1. This should cut filesize by 30%
Originally posted by Raven_Writer
I should (in which everyone should know if they read this thread all the way) that I'm working on the image loading problem, and hope to get it done A.S.A.P.
We have a forums, check out the Community part of the menu (last menu option).
Gadget> We don't even a link to blow up the pictures to a bigger size (except for a few that's noted). But thanks for the idea.
I don't see a menu bar, or any sort of nav bar whatsoever.
--Petey
Raven_Writer
01-02-2003, 23:37
Originally posted by Gadget470
In that case, resize the images via photoshop to 20% smaller and then reduce image quality by 1. This should cut filesize by 30%
Ok, but do you know how to do that in PSP 7 instead? I'm not w/ the PS program at all.
Petey> It's up on top of the screen.
Originally posted by Raven_Writer
Ok, but do you know how to do that in PSP 7 instead? I'm not w/ the PS program at all.
Petey> It's up on top of the screen.
I don't see it. The letters are all jumbled together.
Hang on, lemme take a screenshot...
--Petey
Raven_Writer
01-02-2003, 23:47
Originally posted by Petey
I don't see it. The letters are all jumbled together.
--Petey
Ok, I dunno what browser you are using, but I don't think it is JavaScript compliant..since our menu is in JavaScript (man, can't we get rid of that thing?!) Try using Internet Explorer (preferably 6.0).
[EDIT:] Dave e-mailed me not to long ago, and told me that the image-loading problems should be fixed next weekend (we need to do it in ImageEditor).
AJ Quick
01-02-2003, 23:53
Originally posted by Raven_Writer
Ok, but do you know how to do that in PSP 7 instead? I'm not w/ the PS program at all.
In PSP 7, go up to file>export>Save as Jpeg... from there you can go and safe the file as a more compressed jpeg. I think you can also so save as, and adjust the quality from the options there.. but the export method is best.
Originally posted by Raven_Writer
Ok, I dunno what browser you are using, but I don't think it is JavaScript compliant..since our menu is in JavaScript (man, can't we get rid of that thing?!) Try using Internet Explorer (preferably 6.0).
In the website competition, the sites are graded by team members. You will need to build your site to adhere to all common web browsers. It should be made compliant with as many browsers as you can, and well.. you shouldn't force someone to use software.
Raven_Writer
01-02-2003, 23:56
Originally posted by AJ Quick
In the website competition, the sites are graded by team members. You will need to build your site to adhere to all common web browsers. It should be made compliant with as many browsers as you can, and well.. you shouldn't force someone to use software.
I'm not aiming for the competition, not sure if Dave, Matt, Bryan, or anyone else on our team is, but I ain't. I'm just looking to get better at webpage making. If I had enough control over what to go on what not, it would be compliant w/ every browser as far as I know (check out my site http://silent-poet.vze.com, that is not what it would look like, but it would be easy to navigation such).
Jeremy_Mc
02-02-2003, 01:43
it looked liek he was using IE for mac where the letters were jumbly...it's a little screwy on mozilla too but still usable.
looks rather nice on IE tho :) good job
*jeremy
activemx
02-02-2003, 03:07
i like the simple colors used. though a lot can be done to improve the layout.
- there is no need for the text to be that big in the body.
- the menu is a little confusing because of the black layer properties.
- I think you should try to put the menu under your team logo and header content. IT would make it look much more proffesional.
- keep the fonts sizes a not too small and not too big
Akshay
Raven_Writer
02-02-2003, 08:39
Jeremy> Thanks. Mozilla is just like NetScape. Mac's IE isn't as good as Windows (no offense).
active> On my screen, the text is really small...so, try refreshing a couple of times or something. If it doesn't work still, PM or e-mail me (pprkut3k@wideopenwest.com). I am not really sure on how to do that, since it's JavaScript, but I'll try to do that. Font sizes are small for me, but I'm not sure about on other people's computers. Sorry, no changes on that though.
Thank you both for your input though ;)
Peace,
Eric "Raven" Hansen
Matt Attallah
02-02-2003, 09:29
Originally posted by activemx
i like the simple colors used. though a lot can be done to improve the layout.
- there is no need for the text to be that big in the body.
I've tried that, but from where we do it, some people complain that the lettering is too small, and they use something like 1280x1024, and they have to be able to see all the lettering perfect. Some don't understand resolution...:(
Raven_Writer
02-02-2003, 10:33
Originally posted by Matt Attallah
I've tried that, but from where we do it, some people complain that the lettering is too small, and they use something like 1280x1024, and they have to be able to see all the lettering perfect. Some don't understand resolution...:(
It works good on 800x600, pulled a few things of hair (ha, I have no hair now) trying to figure out what I did, but to come and realize it was just my browser.
Originally posted by Jeremy_Mc
it looked liek he was using IE for mac where the letters were jumbly...it's a little screwy on mozilla too but still usable.
looks rather nice on IE tho :) good job
*jeremy
I'm using Safari, a Mac OSX beta build of Mozilla optimized for OSX.
Javascript has been screwy before, though I have it enabled. Ah well, that's why they call it beta.
I'll check it out in IE 5 later.
--Petey
Raven_Writer
02-02-2003, 12:01
Originally posted by Petey
I'm using Safari, a Mac OSX beta build of Mozilla optimized for OSX.
Javascript has been screwy before, though I have it enabled. Ah well, that's why they call it beta.
I'll check it out in IE 5 later.
--Petey
Yea, our menu is totally Java, sorry. I've been asking to change it, but no luck.
activemx
04-02-2003, 20:55
umm i think if ur using IE ur text size under VIEW on the IE MENU bar is prolly set to Smallest. Chage that to medium because thats the default setting for all browsers.
See if that helps oter then that i think ur font size right now for the body is 18 px.
Raven_Writer
05-02-2003, 19:58
Originally posted by activemx
umm i think if ur using IE ur text size under VIEW on the IE MENU bar is prolly set to Smallest. Chage that to medium because thats the default setting for all browsers.
See if that helps oter then that i think ur font size right now for the body is 18 px.
Yea, you were right. But the site is now re-done, and the menu is visible (unless you use Compuserve, and maybe AOL. Sorry, but I can't fix it for those browsers).
jonathan lall
08-02-2003, 17:37
Originally posted by Petey
I'm using Safari, a Mac OSX beta build of Mozilla optimized for OSX.
Safari is not a Mozilla browser, and does not contain any of its codebase. It is based on Konqueror's KHTML engine.
Originally posted by jonathan lall
Safari is not a Mozilla browser, and does not contain any of its codebase. It is based on Konqueror's KHTML engine.
My bad. Sorry.
--Petey
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