Design a Game for FIRST!!!!

[Jay5780]

Finally!

For all of us who ever wanted to design a FIRST game can do it.

On 2/21/03 FIRST created the Game Design Challenge where anyone can create a game scenerio for FIRST.

Maybe now we will get those footballs!!!

click here for more information (http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2003/Game_Design_Challenge.pdf)

[Jay5780]

So I guess no one cares?

How about this...

Many people complain when the rumors aren't true about what the game will be every single year. So what would you like to see FIRST do?

[Adam Y.]

I care but I just decided not to reply.:rolleyes: It is a pretty cool idea though.

[Specialagentjim]

I just noticed the thread..Hmm...I now have somethign to do in class...and i thought now that animation's done and bot's shipped we were done...ha!

[Jeff Waegelin]

So, now there's an official contest, not just a thread here, huh? Well, I suppose I'll submit an idea of some sort. I liked the last design competition that Dave Lavery held here.

[Vincent Chan]

Originally posted by Specialagentjim
I now have somethign to do in class...

My thoughts exactly! Wonder what my history teacher will say when she comes back from maternity leave and finds my desk covered in sharpie drawings of robots and fields...

[Pin Man]

I could make a nice game... It would be awesome... I'll work on one...

[Jnadke]

Remember, it's 1 PER TEAM, so I highly suggest you consult your teams before sending ideas in, before another person on your team does the same thing and they just throw them all out and your team is SOL.

[MBiddy]

One word: Meatballs. Think of the possibilities!

[Duke 13370]

One word: Meatballs. Think of the possibilities!

You forgot the monkeys and the bottomless pit!

[AntInvaderMills]

Three things:

-Chocolate Syrup
-Down Pillows
-Cattle Feces

What fun! :p

[Brandon Martus]

I'm glad you guys are putting a lot of thought into this one. :rolleyes:

[Nick Seidl]

Possible ideas:
-->Marine battle or even better, sub-marine battle (or maybe not)
-->aerial battle (robot + bungee cord = ?)
-->legalized/mandatory projectiles (needs contained play field)
-->unstable play field (make the whole field one big see-saw)
-->keep the human players on field (with zone restrictions)

other notes:
>bins are better than balls
>bring back the movable goals
>bring back the chin-up bar (ca. 2000)
>keep the 2v2 format (no 4v0, ca. 2001)
>give up on the reflective tape, it will never catch on

[Powers]

anyone think FIRST will take to fish tanks and make it an underwater or at least floating match..... well, maybe if that's the idea that wins.

[Mike Schroeder]

haha water competitions. I see them in the future not the near future, they only way you will see them, is if pigs fly, (with out the aid of a catupalt or any other device to propell it

[sanddrag]

Underwater would be cool but there is too much risk of people making robots not watertight. Also, it would be kind of hard for the spectators to see. I like the aerial idea but I'm not sure what the robots could do. I was thinking of having two large conveyor belts running in opposite directions across the field somewhere near the center. Also, maybe if there was a ramp like this year but with a converyor belt running up to the top on both sides.

Or motorized spinning turntables on the field.

Or a four sided ramp with no flat spot on the top. Like a pyramid. And there is no way around it so you must go over. And the pyramid's edges are at 45 degree angles to the field edges. Oooo!

Or howabout a field where none of it is level?

What our engineer wants to see is a 20 foot verticle wall in the center of the filed that the robots have to get over. Oh I could just imagine the damage.

I slso like the idea of a multilevel field. Maybe three or four levels where it is possible to have a robot underneath another one but on a different level. Maybe with elevator lifts or many ramps. That would be cool.

The possibilities are endless!

[Rickertsen2]

OOOO a multilevel field would be awesome!
Soo would stuff that moves( conveyer belts spinners etc)
I think that this years game was not well planned out.

[Mike Schroeder]

Originally posted by Rickertsen2

I think that this years game was not well planned out.

I beg to differ, It was very well planed it has been planed since Dave Lavery started asking everyone On CD what they would like to see,

I doubt that you will see mechanical devices like conveyers and such, these also would me impractical seening as these feilds are transported from site to site and are ussually set up 2 or 3 days in advanced

[LBK Rules]

Kill the carpets. Bring in the dimond plate. That would be awesome. No solar cells. Robots made with spent Uranium.

[J2Kraatz]

Well if we can get a chance to decide the future of First why not lead it into a dark room of ideas.

[J2Kraatz]

Well if we can get a chance to decide the future of First why not lead it into a dark room of ideas.

[T967]

How about some kind of Game that almost demands that robots interact with each other. For example this year the two teams that climbed on top of each other. Problem was they didn't have too they did it to kind of show off. I always wondered what would happen if robots got smaller and there was more than 4 on the field? Allow better sensors, for example, CMUcam Vision Sensor (http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~cmucam/), this gem made us so excited we were just about to ditch about every sensor and program we had, but a mentor then pointed out it was not allowed!!! The thing is awsome, cheap, reliable, and would be great but we couldn't use it! I mean if they want us to build bots that will react with the enviroment, why not better sensors? (check out the CMU cams video's) Really, the optical sensors aren't all that great. The ruggedness of this years game is a must. Maybe add random rugged terrain. Every field has different terrain. Now not only do you have to scout other teams you have to scout your field!! Welp thats all i could go on for hours.

[Rickertsen2]

moving things would be cool but impractical and are not going to happen.

I retract my statement about the game not being planned out i just think that it might not have been tested very well. There were too many bins for the little field.

[Eric Bareiss]

keep the 2v2 format (no 4v0, ca. 2001)

Why not bring back another game like 2001? Was it still fun? Was it still hard? Well then what's the problem?

Also imagine the design innovations that would come about if teams didn't have to worry about getting their robots destroyed. Very few innovations have come out of this year and I think that is something FIRST has to look at. If everyone makes a tank who's raising the bar?

[Simeon]

i'd like to see a game where the top scorers of the matches are mainly PUSHERS...

seemed like all these simple pushing robots took top spots