Renaming the FIRST Robotics Competition

[patrickrd]

After 5 years involved with FIRST thus far, I think FIRST ought to consider finding a nice catchy name other than "The FIRST Robotics Competition" or "The FIRST Competition". I know that the game is named each year, but I think it would be beneficial to have a name that would last year after year... other than FIRST. There is no reason the robotics competition has to have the name of the non-profit organization (FIRST) that sponsors it. In addition to being -- in my opinion -- a pretty lame acronym (what is first supposed to mean???), what it stands for is equally cryptic:
The For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology Robotics Competition.

Why not something like "The High School Robotics Challenge" that will actually make some reading the name understand what it is.

For example, 2003 game could be titled:
The High School Robotics Challege: Stack Attack

Somebody can probably come up with a much better title than I can. In summary, FIRST is really cryptic, and it takes me approximately a minute or more to explain to someone that it is an acronym, what it stands for, and then by that point they've stopped listening anyway because it's gone over their head. And then if I have to explain the rules... well that's another headache. A better title would solve the first (no pun intended) problem.

So let's hear your opinion! (and any names if you can think of them)

- Patrick

[D.J. Fluck]

My theory:

If it isn't broken, do not fix it. FIRST has always been FIRST and it should always remain FIRST

[Joe Matt]

FIRST= For Inspiration & Recognition in Science & Technology

I can explain that in 8 words. Also, the competition itself should not be renamed so it dosn't loose the focus. It's not a competition that is the main focus, but FIRST. To get kids inspired, not gain points in a competition.

When it comes down to it, FIRST dosn't need a catchy name, it's not a product you buy at a store, add water, then you get a product to help your life; it's an effort to change the world.

[Brandon Martus]

Originally posted by D.J. Fluck
FIRST has always been FIRST and it should always remain FIRST Well, except for when it was USFIRST. j/k

I don't think FIRST is too cryptic. I voted to leave it.

[Andy Baker]

I voted to leave it the same.

On the subject of the name...

Why do we see soooooooo many teams still refer to FIRST as "U.S. FIRST"? I go to many FIRST teams' websites, and they often call it "US FIRST". Sure, that what the name used to be... 6 YEARS AGO!

OK, and the website is "www.usfirst.org"... maybe that is throwing people off. I dunno. The name FIRST is OK with me, but people need to clue in (especially FIRST teams) and call it the right thing.

Andy B.

[Josh Hambright]

I agree with dj.

It isn't broke so dont fix it.

[marlon_jbt]

I don't mean to be Mr. Perfect, but FIRST means:

United States Foundation For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology...

[purplehaze357]

Change it !?!?! Kidding me?

there is no need to change the name....FIRST is an acronym that stands for everything that FIRST is all about...

[Brandon Martus]

Originally posted by marlon_jbt
I don't mean to be Mr. Perfect, but FIRST means:
United States Foundation For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology...

Not according to their website.. FIRST— For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology

[Ricky Q.]

On the release forms:

As used below, “FIRST” shall mean United States Foundation For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and
Technology

So I dunno :p

[Josh Hambright]

Most likely the longer version is the Official name of the FIRST organization. They most likely would have that name as their official name but then they have first as a more common form of the name.

Josh is not my legal name but its the name i go by...similar to how USFIRST goes by FIRST

[Amanda Morrison]

Originally posted by marlon_jbt
United States Foundation For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology...

Technically, it isn't United States only anymore... so I guess they just took that out. There's even a Canadian Regional, so that wouldn't make sense to make it only USFIRST.

Leave it. There's nothing else that could do this program justice.

[sevisehda]

I think the name should stay. The only problem I ever saw with it was the FIRST robotics competition 2001 10th Aviversery shirt. The combo of FIRST and 10th aniversery confused people but it was easily explained.

The name FIRST is self-explanitory. It focuses on Inspiring and not the competition.

[Mark Garver]

One of the only reasons I can see a name change to be needed is if corporations start to question the amount of PR they get for each dollar spent on FIRST. When you say FIRST to some one that is unaware of what FIRST is, they have no idea that it has to do with a robotics competition along with many other things. Since FIRST seems to trade on the robotics competition, even though some times they would rather not, I think having the word robot or robotics would be a positive direction for FIRST to take. This would also allow corporations to use this term and have instant public recognition, creating better PR.

[Clark Gilbert]

I'm also going to have to agree. If it ain't broke dont try to fix it, and there's no reason to go break it. :D

[David Kelly]

it should stay as FIRST


along with what Andy Baker said, it also annoys me when people put F.I.R.S.T. it's FIRST cummon people:]

[Ken Leung]

Sorry Patrick. I know it's not a pretty name. I know, I've been trying to explain the competition to random people I met when I travel around, and it never quite come out right when I start saying the full name.

But, the fact is, FIRST have been around more than 10 years, and the name itself have its own reputation. Once you change the name, people might mis-understand it as somethign else, or think that something changed the organization.

Besides, all my FIRST shirts have the FIRST logo and FIRST on it, so changing it would make them worthless :P :P :P.

I just don't have the heart to change the name and throw away what it's been building up the past decade. I know it's just a name change, but everything wonderful about FIRST is attached to it already.

If I have any talent or english writing skills at all, I would write a poem or a song about the name FIRST just about... now.

[gsensel]

The name is, was, and always will be FIRST. Actually at Disney a few years ago on the info sign it said it was FIRST--Foundation for the Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology.

[mtaman02]

Originally posted by D.J. Fluck
My theory:

If it isn't broken, do not fix it. FIRST has always been FIRST and it should always remain FIRST

agreed FIRST should stay as FIRST, great idea and all to change it but FIRST is known for its oustanding outcome of its student robotics team member capabilities in both what they have learned and what they have put together as a team.


edit... so many people with the right idea not to change the name of FIRST so lil space to quote them all.

The T-shirts would not look right with a long sentence stating both the organization and what its intents are to the HS students.

FIRST is simple both in describing the organization and its intentions the main one to "Inspire". and it looks a whole lot better on the T-shirts

[Ryan Albright]

you have to leave it you dont change something that everyone knows like if you changed FIRST name it would kinda be wierd cause no one knows the new name i mean FIRST has a repitation to stay with and if you change the name you lose that

[Team238-aholic]

why would you change the name....FIRST is FIRST...thats that....

settled right there...don't ever change the name....

[tenfour]

I think we should change it because of the fact that if FIRST is to grow and prosper more, it will have to win the PR game. In order to do this, we have to appear cooler (i.e. better game, scoring ,etc.) I new name might go well with this.

[Mullen]

keep FIRST as FIRST..you dont see people trying to change NHL, NBA, or NFL, that is what they are called and they are gonna stay that way.

[Rurouni]

I also voted to keep it as FIRST. It's had a 10+ year run, there is no need to change the name. The name perfectly describes the program, acronym or not. Besides as someone mentioned earlier, FIRST is not a product to be packaged and sold. This is not a touchy-feelly program designed to make everyone feel good. Its an program to inspire and introduce high schoolers into what engineering actually is. The competition itself is only a side-diversion. The real goal of the program is to inspire high schoolers into fields of science and technology.

Let's not let the FIRST program turn into a post-modernistic ideal. It is not something to be bought and sold. It's something for the students, for their futures. Let's not trample on that ideal.