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Andrew
30-09-2003, 09:56
Registration opened yesterday. I'm surprised there wasn't a post about this on CD.

I did a quick count. Looks like there are about 450 teams registered. Is this fast or slow?

I saw some rookie teams as well. Does anyone know what the first rookie team number for this year is?

Detroit is already "sold out." Great Lakes is nearing capacity.

Are we going to reach 1000 teams this year? Or, will we see the first dip? (BTW, does anyone know how many teams actually participated in last year's competition?)

Nate Smith
30-09-2003, 10:02
Here's a link to a page that, despite what the header on the page says, lists every team who is registered for an event thus far...it was at 484 when i looked at it...

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=team%20events.fp5&-lay=web&-format=team_list.htm&event%20year=2004&status=signed%20up&-sortfield=team%20id&-max=all&-find

Jack
30-09-2003, 17:47
what's up with team # 100813. :)

I saw it somewhere else while browsing the regionals. Looks like a whoops in the first db. heh :)

Gamer930
30-09-2003, 17:52
There was 800 +- 100 teams last year i think.

Note: At 4:50 Central time we have 540 teams registered.

My guess is that we will pass 800 and be close to 1000

sanddrag
30-09-2003, 19:14
It looks like there were 787 teams last year. http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2003/allteams.htm But it's wierd, every time I look at that page the number is smaller. I've seen it at something like 814.

Andrew
08-10-2003, 08:43
Registration just hit 700 teams (10/08/03).

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=team%20events.fp5&-lay=web&-format=team_list.htm&event%20year=2004&status=signed%20up&-sortfield=team%20id&-max=all&-find

New rookies = 1354-1239+1 = 116

shyra1353
08-10-2003, 21:41
Originally posted by Jack
what's up with team # 100813. :)

I saw it somewhere else while browsing the regionals. Looks like a whoops in the first db. heh :)

i think its that teams temporary team number...every team gets one before they get an official one.


and right now...the team count list is 711

Steve W
08-10-2003, 23:07
As of now 682 teams have signed up for events. 4 events have max (as per shown spots) 3 more less than 10 spots. Events are filling up fast. It will be interesting when things are opened up.

gburlison
12-10-2003, 01:12
Looks like the number is up to 727.
btw there are 458 open spots and only room for 1185 teams to compete in regionals.

and whats up with Sacramento? are all the California teams going to make it their second choice?

dez250
13-10-2003, 14:33
as of today, 10/13/03, there are 742 teams registered for events shown at http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=team%20events.fp5&-lay=web&-format=team_list.htm&event%20year=2004&status=signed%20up&-sortfield=team%20id&-max=all&-find

Lets keep those teams coming!

~Mike

Dan 550
13-10-2003, 16:23
Uh, do you have to put a down-payment in to register? I heard it was $500. If that's true, then 550's okay, but that's all we have for now.

SarahB
13-10-2003, 17:00
The down-payment to receive the new controller is $500, but its not refundable. You should make sure you'll be able to pay the $5,000 registration before you make it.

Dan 550
13-10-2003, 18:34
Originally posted by SarahB
The down-payment to receive the new controller is $500, but its not refundable. You should make sure you'll be able to pay the $5,000 registration before you make it.

Okey dokey.

Jeremy Roberts
13-10-2003, 18:56
I'm pretty sure that as a veteran team you do not have to pay the deposit. Only rookies do.

Allison K
13-10-2003, 20:10
We (rookie teams) have to pay $500 before we get our Edubot. Other than that its just $5,000 by December 5th.

SarahB
13-10-2003, 20:36
Originally posted by skyman9000
I'm pretty sure that as a veteran team you do not have to pay the deposit. Only rookies do.

You're right. I had assumed that everyone would need it because they were receiving part of the kit but closer reading reveals that's not true. There is one exception, however. Teams that didn't participate last year are getting the full EduBot kit so I would assume they have to pay the deposit as well.

Dan 550
15-10-2003, 15:18
We just registered for the J&J Mid-Atlantic in NJ. There's 12 spots left there (of 50).

Joe Matt
15-10-2003, 15:21
I'm betting that we hit 850 teams this year.

Matt Leese
15-10-2003, 19:22
Originally posted by JosephM
I'm betting that we hit 850 teams this year.
If FIRST's off-quoted growth continues (40% annually), we should hit 1120. I believe the goal for this year from FIRST was to hit 1000 teams. We may just be able to do it.

Matt

Wetzel
17-10-2003, 14:20
Up to 770 teams.
The first rookie team number this year appears to be 1238, or close to it. They hand out numbers in order, and 1232-1237 are not registered. Starting with 1238, the numbers are contiguous.


Wetzel
~~~~~~~~~~~
Next stop, 1100.

Joe Ross
17-10-2003, 14:51
according to this page: http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2003/allteams.htm the last team last year was 1238.

patrickrd
17-10-2003, 18:51
The following teams were inactive last year, but are back for 2004:

350
410
546
601
995
996
1076
1080
1085

Welcome back!

- Patrick

Andrew
22-10-2003, 15:55
Registration has reached 868 teams!

Rookies are up to 1392-1239+1 = 154.

Teams at Championships has reach 53.

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=team%20events.fp5&-lay=web&-format=team_list.htm&event=CMP&event%20year=2004&status=signed%20up&-sortfield=team%20id&-max=all&-find

SarahB
22-10-2003, 19:54
Originally posted by Andrew
Registration has reached 868 teams!

Rookies are up to 1392-1239+1 = 154.


Actually there are only 807 teams. The total on that pages includes all the teams registered for nationals twice.

Andrew
22-10-2003, 22:53
I thought the number of teams had jumped rather steeply. Thanks for catching the double count.

Looks like its going to get tough to track how many actual teams there are this year once second regional sign up opens in a few days.

Karthik
23-10-2003, 01:59
Originally posted by Andrew

Looks like its going to get tough to track how many actual teams there are this year once second regional sign up opens in a few days.

If you want to get a count minus the duplicates, copy the table into Excel and do the following.

1. Start in a new column, say E, and give E1 the value 1.
2. Give E2 the formula: IF(E2=E1,0,1)
This sets the value to 1 if it's different than what's above, and 0 if it's a duplicate.
3. Paste this formula for all valid cells in E
4. In another cell, take the entire sum of column E
5. This value should be the current number of teams signed up to at least one event.

I'm pretty sure this is not the most efficient way of doing this. If anyone is quite savvy with Excel, a more direct formula would be appreciated.

Mike8519
23-10-2003, 06:24
lol, they skipped over 1337. I wanted to see a team have that # :p

Jeff Waegelin
23-10-2003, 08:49
Originally posted by Mike8519
lol, they skipped over 1337. I wanted to see a team have that # :p

Yeah, I know... why did they do that?

Joel J
23-10-2003, 09:07
No need for Excel to eliminate the duplicates. FIRST does it for you.

Here is the live list for 2004:

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=teams&-format=team_state_query_results.htm&-sortfield=ID&-op=gte&to%20team%20events::event%20year=2004&-max=all&-find

:) (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=109751#post109751)

Joe Matt
23-10-2003, 09:21
Originally posted by Jeff Waegelin
Yeah, I know... why did they do that?

Same here. LETS COMPLAIN!!! ;) :p

Andy Brockway
23-10-2003, 13:57
Numbers being skipped happen every year. There has not been teams 717 through 720 (or even higher) the last two years. Our team was the highest number in 2001.

Maybe teams sign up on TMS and then never follow through.

Madison
23-10-2003, 14:06
Originally posted by Andy Brockway
Numbers being skipped happen every year. There has not been teams 717 through 720 (or even higher) the last two years. Our team was the highest number in 2001.

Maybe teams sign up on TMS and then never follow through.

The lack of teams 717-720 was a "mistake" on FIRST's end. In 2002, registration started at 800 rather than 717. It went up to 999, and since the OI couldn't display more than three digits, they had to go back and start filling in other team numbers.

Jeff Waegelin
23-10-2003, 14:22
Originally posted by Joel J.
No need for Excel to eliminate the duplicates. FIRST does it for you.

Here is the live list for 2004:

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=teams&-format=team_state_query_results.htm&-sortfield=ID&-op=gte&to%20team%20events::event%20year=2004&-max=all&-find

:) (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=109751#post109751)

Is this an officially linked list? I hope it is... maybe someone at FIRST finally decided an official full list was a good idea.

Andy Brockway
23-10-2003, 14:29
"In 2002, registration started at 800 rather than 717. "

Sorry M. forgot to follow my own advice.

Jeff Waegelin
23-10-2003, 14:31
Originally posted by Andy Brockway
"In 2002, registration started at 800 rather than 717. "

Not so! Team 782 was next us in 2002 in New Haven. There are also many more teams between 717 and 800.

If you read the rest of M's post, you'd see that they started at 800, then went back and filled in the teams between 720 and 800, because of technical limitations in the OI.

Joel J
25-10-2003, 23:28
Originally posted by Jeff Waegelin
Is this an officially linked list? I hope it is... maybe someone at FIRST finally decided an official full list was a good idea. Officially linked list? This is the result of me asking the FIRST database the question we really wanted an answer to. Its official in the sense that its coming directly from the FIRST database. Really, all I did was lookup my post from last year and changed the year in the query to the server. Click on the smiley at the end of my last post if you don't understand what I mean.

Dan 550
26-10-2003, 13:08
Looks like an official list (http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=teams&-format=team_state_query_results.htm&-sortfield=ID&-op=gte&to%20team%20events::event%20year=2004&-op=gte&ID=1&-max=all&-find) here.

Wetzel
26-10-2003, 13:48
1401 - Universidad del Valle de México - Del Miguel, HG Mexico

By my count, that makes 5 countries participating...


Wetzel

Madison
26-10-2003, 14:21
Originally posted by Wetzel
1401 - Universidad del Valle de México - Del Miguel, HG Mexico

By my count, that makes 5 countries participating...


Wetzel

Which event are they registered for?

SarahB
26-10-2003, 14:25
Originally posted by M. Krass
Which event are they registered for?

The Arizona Regional

Now to find a way to get there... :D

Wetzel
26-10-2003, 14:25
Originally posted by M. Krass
Which event are they registered for?

The Mexicans will be at Arizona.

Wetzel

BandChick
26-10-2003, 16:19
Now that's a competition I'd like to see. Anyone know if there's a way to get ALL the non-US teams together for one regional? I think that would be interesting.

Aignam
26-10-2003, 16:25
Originally posted by BandChick
Now that's a competition I'd like to see. Anyone know if there's a way to get ALL the non-US teams together for one regional? I think that would be interesting.

Not a cheap way..

SarahB
26-10-2003, 18:51
Originally posted by Aignam
Not a cheap way..

Since most of them are flying anyway it wouldn't be that big of a difference. Just have everyone go to the Canadian Regional and its all good. The only problem is the new Mexican team is probably driving to Arizona so it'd be different for them.

Andy Baker
31-10-2003, 12:34
Holy smokes...

Registration for second regionals opened up today at 12:20. Within 10 minutes, the 21 open spots for the Midwest Regional were gobbled up.

I'm assuming that some of the other regionals had similar happenings. Good job for all teams who got where they wanted to go.

Also... an updated team count is 856.

Andy B.

Ricky Q.
31-10-2003, 12:36
Wooo, we got it...Thank heavens...There's a lot of red and yellow showing up on that 2004 Event Page

Bill Gold
31-10-2003, 13:44
ChiefDelphi signed up for the Silicon Valley Regional :)

Ricky Q.
31-10-2003, 21:20
2nd Event Registration Status Report:

Regionals Full=13
Regionals with 10 or less spots left=6

Its gonna be a fun year :D

codeoftherobot
31-10-2003, 23:20
We need more people to sign up for the Sacramento Regional! Last year it was tough as the regional was a last minute thing by FIRST so I don't think many people heard about it. If you have a wish for a second or third regional, ehehe, please come. :)

Ken Leung
31-10-2003, 23:39
Originally posted by Bill Gold
ChiefDelphi signed up for the Silicon Valley Regional :)

And the Full Metal Jackets from Indiana. w00t!

Andrew
01-11-2003, 08:38
Is it my imagination or did some of the capacities reduce all of a sudden?

I know that the open capacity of CMP reduced. But I seem to remember some of the other regionals having larger capacity (such as St. Louis).

Steve W
01-11-2003, 12:07
Not sure if any reduced but the Canadian Regional increased. :yikes:

dez250
02-11-2003, 15:53
Hey this is looking good... The team count for the 2004 season keeps increasing, lets keep it going! Currently the count is 878 on 11-2-03.

~Mike

Aignam
02-11-2003, 18:28
Originally posted by dez250
Hey this is looking good... The team count for the 2004 season keeps increasing, lets keep it going! Currently the count is 878 on 11-2-03.

~Mike

What part of the FIRST website shows this statistic?

Ricky Q.
02-11-2003, 18:53
http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=teams&-format=team_state_query_results.htm&-sortfield=ID&-op=gte&to%20team%20events::event%20year=2004&-max=all&-find

RogerR
02-11-2003, 18:56
was it just me, or did the peachtree regional's total capacity go from 47 teams to 44?

Aignam
02-11-2003, 18:59
Originally posted by RogerR
was it just me, or did the peachtree regional's total capacity go from 47 teams to 44?

There is no total capacity column. Perhaps you were looking at the # of Teams Signed Up?

Aignam
02-11-2003, 19:02
879 teams. D'you think we'll break 900 this year?

Jeremy Roberts
02-11-2003, 19:36
Originally posted by RogerR
was it just me, or did the peachtree regional's total capacity go from 47 teams to 44?

No, its not just you. The capacity did drop. Many regionals keep a few spots in reserve for last minute rookies and/or teams getting the NASA grant (as the case may be). So if your really interested in a particular Regional get on the wait list. If your near the top then there is a good chance you'll get a spot.

shyra1353
03-11-2003, 00:03
yes!! 880 teams... hopefully we will break 900!!! still got time to do so ...

BandChick
03-11-2003, 01:01
Originally posted by Aignam
879 teams. D'you think we'll break 900 this year?

it's still early in the season, we might even break 1000 this year. how awesome would that be?!?!

Andrew
03-11-2003, 08:28
When the NASA sponsorship comes out, we should see an additional 50-100 teams. However, when the payment deadline comes in early December, the number of teams will probably drop by 5%-10%.

I suspect that 900 is the outer limit for this season.

Aignam
03-11-2003, 09:39
Originally posted by BandChick
it's still early in the season, we might even break 1000 this year. how awesome would that be?!?!

Quite awesome.

Aignam
03-11-2003, 11:21
Originally posted by Ricky Q.
http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=teams&-format=team_state_query_results.htm&-sortfield=ID&-op=gte&to%20team%20events::event%20year=2004&-max=all&-find

Clicking on that same link and scrolling down to the bottom shows two teams, Team 1001003 and Team 1001007. Are these teams 1003 and 1007? FIRST made an error, methinks.

Allison K
03-11-2003, 11:27
Originally posted by Aignam
Clicking on that same link and scrolling down to the bottom shows two teams, Team 1001003 and Team 1001007. Are these teams 1003 and 1007? FIRST made an error, methinks.

I think thats their temporary numbers. They dont get permanent numbers until they sign up for a regional.

BandChick
03-11-2003, 11:55
even if this IS the case, why would they give out such LARGE numbers?

OneAngryDaisy
03-11-2003, 11:57
Originally posted by Mike8519
lol, they skipped over 1337. I wanted to see a team have that # :p

Thats so uncool... I wonder who is in charge of assigning team names- we should haggle that person about the 1337ness of 1337....

BandChick
03-11-2003, 11:58
they wouldn't have even needed to come up with a team name!

I want to be on team 1337!

Allison K
04-11-2003, 11:53
Originally posted by BandChick
even if this IS the case, why would they give out such LARGE numbers?

I dont know but until I signed us up for GLR we had a number like that.

PS- 890 teams, 19 regionals full, and 2 with ten spots or less

dez250
06-11-2003, 13:07
yay! 901 teams on 11-6-03 at 1pm est, come on just 99 more teams we need to break 1000 in under a month now. We can do it.

~Mike

Aignam
06-11-2003, 13:33
Originally posted by BandChick
they wouldn't have even needed to come up with a team name!

I want to be on team 1337!

:yikes: Imagine all the button ideas.

IMDWalrus
06-11-2003, 13:53
Originally posted by OneAngryDaisy
Thats so uncool... I wonder who is in charge of assigning team names- we should haggle that person about the 1337ness of 1337....
I have a feeling the reason why they skipped 1337 is because of its other uses...

Steve W
06-11-2003, 14:23
Canadian Regional just increased to 80 teams. Only 2 spots left already. This will be a great event with 80 teams and 2 fields. Lots of people to meet and lots of games to play.

Madison
06-11-2003, 14:31
Originally posted by IMDWalrus
I have a feeling the reason why they skipped 1337 is because of its other uses...

Just as they skipped 666 and 911.

shyra1353
06-11-2003, 16:40
Originally posted by BandChick
even if this IS the case, why would they give out such LARGE numbers?

it might be just to make sure that no one gets that team number as an actual number because FIRST is obviously not gonna get that big this year

dez250
06-11-2003, 17:03
Originally posted by dez250
yay! 901 teams on 11-6-03 at 1pm est, come on just 99 more teams we need to break 1000 in under a month now. We can do it.
~Mike

i guess they saw my post cause only 4 hours later, there are now 907 teams, with another brazillian team, so by my counts that a ton more canadian teams, 2 more brazillian and 1 new mexican team this year so far.

Lets keep it going!
~Mike

The Official Team List (http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=teams&-format=team_state_query_results.htm&-sortfield=ID&-op=gte&to%20team%20events::event%20year=2004&-op=gte&ID=1&-max=all&-find)

ok 1 min after i posted this i checked and ok... its now 908 teams

BandChick
07-11-2003, 11:21
915 teams! and we still have PLENTY of time...

maybe we'll get to 950 this year? or close?

Ken Leung
07-11-2003, 11:54
It is unfortunate that some of the veteran California teams from last year aren't on the list anymore. I have a feeling it's not just in Bay Area that that's happening. I heard a lot of teams couldn't raise enough money to pay for the registration fee and have to fold.

That's probably one good demonstration that money can prevent FIRST's growth. When there simply isn't enough to go around, teams just can't afford to do FIRST anymore. But that belongs in another thread.

I am very happy to hear there are 915 teams registered. It only seems like yesterday when there were barely 200~300 teams back at 99' for Double Trouble. Back then the NASA Ames regional was the only west coast regional. Now we have 6, thanks for Jason Morrella getting extremely addicted after attending the 99' regional.

dez250
07-11-2003, 16:08
Hey I just talked with our favorite webmaster for CD, and if you look in your upper left corner of CD, you will now see an auto updating counter of teams registered with first that are displayed on the Official FIRST Team List (http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=teams&-format=team_state_query_results.htm&-sortfield=ID&-op=gte&to%20team%20events::event%20year=2004&-op=gte&ID=1&-max=all&-find) . So as i am typing this, i currently see 919 teams registered. Thats about 20 teams in a 24 hour time span. If we keep this rate up, we definitely will break the 1000 team mark by December 5th.

~Mike

P.S.- THANK YOU BRANDON

Joe Matt
07-11-2003, 16:49
It's 920 now! It's not auto live updating! :p ;)

That's a cool feature, thanks Brandon.

SarahB
07-11-2003, 17:50
Originally posted by dez250
If we keep this rate up, we definitely will break the 1000 team mark by December 5th.


Unless some teams drop out of their 2nd regional and no one signs up for a 3rd, there's no way to make the 1000 mark. There are only 78 spots left at regionals and even as of now 7 of the rookies aren't signed up for a regional yet(as shown by their really high number, eg 1000791).

dez250
07-11-2003, 19:25
Originally posted by SarahB
Unless some teams drop out of their 2nd regional and no one signs up for a 3rd, there's no way to make the 1000 mark. There are only 78 spots left at regionals and even as of now 7 of the rookies aren't signed up for a regional yet(as shown by their really high number, eg 1000791).

yeah i noticed that, i am hoping that some teams do drop out, cause i really want to break 950 and possibly 1000. check out my next post in a new topic about spots for rookies...
~Mike

Andrew
05-01-2004, 09:55
Looks like 935 is the final tally.

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=teams&-format=team_state_query_results.htm&-sortfield=ID&-op=gte&to%20team%20events::event%20year=2004&-max=all&-find

adunakin
06-01-2004, 13:22
Looks like one more joined...a new country in our midst! Bienvenidos los de Quito, Ecuador! Viva!