Reputation Level suggestions

[Brandon Martus]

Hey, so with Reputation, you get a title.

Here are the pre-set ones. We need to FIRST-i-FY these.

-999999 User is infamous around these parts
-50 User can only hope to improve
-10 User has a little shameless behaviour in the past
0 User is an unknown quantity at this poINT
10 User is on a distinguished road
50 User will become famous soon enough
150 User has a spectacular aura about
250 User is a jewel in the rough
350 User is just really nice
450 User is a glorious beacon of light
550 User is a name known to all
650 User is a splendid one to behold
1000 User has much to be proud of
1500 User has a brilliant future
2000 User has a reputation beyond repute

So, we need suggestions for all of those.

But, you probably are wondering 'How many points to you get when someone gives you one Thumbs-Up?'

Here are the point fomulas: (numbers subject to change)

Admins (maybe mods, not sure) give 3 points.
For every 100 number of days, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
For every 500 number of posts, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
For every 100 points of reputation, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
User must have 50 posts before his reputation hits count on others.
User can give 47 reputation clicks over each 24 hour period.
User must give reputation to 15 people before they can hit the same person again.

[Wetzel]

Hey, so with Reputation, you get a title.

Here are the pre-set ones. We need to FIRST-i-FY these.

-999999 User is infamous around these parts
-50 User can only hope to improve
-10 User has a little shameless behaviour in the past
0 User is an unknown quantity at this poINT
10 User is on a distinguished road
50 User will become famous soon enough
150 User has a spectacular aura about
250 User is a jewel in the rough
350 User is just really nice
450 User is a glorious beacon of light
550 User is a name known to all
650 User is a splendid one to behold
1000 User has much to be proud of
1500 User has a brilliant future
2000 User has a reputation beyond repute

So, we need suggestions for all of those.




10 - Has reconized that FIRST is good.
50 - Mentor
150 - Really involved Mentor
1000 - Wants to be like Ken L
1500 - The Next John Abele
2000 - Changing the world
5000 - Andy, Joe, Dave and company


Wetzel
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Orange is better.
Purple is better then no orange.

[Wetzel]

But, you probably are wondering 'How many points to you get when someone gives you one Thumbs-Up?'

Here are the point fomulas: (numbers subject to change)

Admins (maybe mods, not sure) give 3 points.
For every 100 number of days, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
For every 500 number of posts, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
For every 100 points of reputation, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
User must have 50 posts before his reputation hits count on others.
User can give 47 reputation clicks over each 24 hour period.
User must give reputation to 15 people before they can hit the same person again.

So is that every 100 days registered, you get 1 point to hand out? Or you are handing out 2 points after 200 days? If so is this retroactive? So for example, I joined in Sep 2001, 800ish days ago, and have 700 odd posts. Would that mean I have 9 points to hand out, or that each thumbs up I give is weighted to 9?

Perhaps I will attempt to browse the vB site again and figure it out. (thems confuuusing)

{Edit}
"Whenever someone rates a post either x reputations points is subtracted or added to the reputation total. That x is called reputation altering power. So when a 2 year old member rates someone it has more influecne then a new user rating the same post."

{/Edit}


Wetzel

[Jeff Waegelin]

47 reputation clicks per 24 hours? Hehe... I think that deserves a thumbs-up ;)

[DanL]

If I may, perhaps make the reputation thing a little big more obvious... took me a while to find that small green/red/gray box... I think if someone is respectable, he deserves more than 5x5 green pixels.

I suppose this is what this whole "title" issue is about, but does this also mean that our custom titles are going to be replaced with reputation titles? Or is a person going to have two titles - one his custom one and one his reputation title? If the former, I'd hope the custom title option wouldn't be eliminated, in which case, you should make the reputation graphic much more obvious than 5x5 pixels. Either way, can you haxor VB to put a small link next to the reputation title to a thread explaining the reputation idea (or atleast to a bookmark on the New Forum thread)? I'm thinking a simple (?) after the reputation title could clear up lots of confusion that many people will undoubtedly have with this system.

[edit]
Oh, and for the -10 User has a little shameless behaviour in the past, wouldn't "has had a little shameful behaviour in the past" make more sense?

[Brandon Martus]

If I may, perhaps make the reputation thing a little big more obvious... took me a while to find that small green/red/gray box... I think if someone is respectable, he deserves more than 5x5 green pixels. As your reputation goes up, there are more & more dots. I forget the total # but it will begin to take shape eventually.

I suppose this is what this whole "title" issue is about, but does this also mean that our custom titles are going to be replaced with reputation titles? Or is a person going to have two titles - one his custom one and one his reputation title? If the former, I'd hope the custom title option wouldn't be eliminated, in which case, you should make the reputation graphic much more obvious than 5x5 pixels. Either way, can you haxor VB to put a small link next to the reputation title to a thread explaining the reputation idea (or atleast to a bookmark on the New Forum thread)? I'm thinking a simple (?) after the reputation title could clear up lots of confusion that many people will undoubtedly have with this system.

[edit]
Oh, and for the -10 User has a little shameless behaviour in the past, wouldn't "has had a little shameful behaviour in the past" make more sense?
The titles show up when you mouseover the little dots. The #'s don't show up in the reputation title.. I just threw them there so we knew what the scale was. Also, the word 'User' is replaced by the username, I believe.

And, as with everything else, this could all change and become alot more intuitive, clearer and better with the final vb3 style. I won't be changing much of anything until a final style is out to base stuff off of.

Thanks again for the comments..

[Ryan Albright]

yay we can see how many post we have made

[apk]

Is there any way to know how many points you have?

[David Kelly]

Is there any way to know how many points you have?

yep, in your user CP

http://forums.chiefdelphi.com/usercp.php??

[Joe Matt]

Personally, I think we shouldn't have a named raking since if we use names, people would feel insulted/left-out, and other times it might not actually resemble how the person really is. I think a simple number is good enough. I'd say have the level's be every 50 points, so a level 5 person would have 250-299 reputation points. It's easier since you can compare it to others and you won't have to learn a crazy naming system, specially for newbies.

[shyra1353]

i like the whole reputation idea .. forces you to think about your posts .. and plus it lets you know if someone has actually read and paid attention to your posts or not (ive always wondered that) ....

but i have a question, and i might just be missing something here .. but how do u give someone reputation points ??

[Brandon Martus]

this button: http://forums.chiefdelphi.com/images/buttons/reputation.gif by each post.

[DanL]

hmmm... here's a thought... for the extremely ego-sensitive people out there, how about one's reputation being displayed in the top bar with the Last Visited and the Number of Private Messages?

That and I kinda mentioned it in my last post, but it was lost in the other points... can the individual dots be linked to a thread explaining the reputation system? I'm sure someone (either now or in the future) isn't going to know what those dots are, and the person is only going to be really confused when "so-and-so is on a distinguished path" pops up on a mouseover. If they were linked, I'm sure it'll get rid of the occassional "What are those green dots people have" thread.

[Madison]

So -- under our User CP, we can see what reputation we've received recently.

Is there anything that shows what reputation we've given? Perhaps with other statistics as well?

Also, is there a way to see all of our reputation, not just the most recent?

[Brandon Martus]

There isnt anything built in to see all reputation (given or received). I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to make a page to display all of that. I'm going to work on our ChiefDelphi stuff (papers, gallery, ufh, etc), and hope that someone else makes a hack to do those things in the meantime, though. :)

[Madison]

User must have 50 posts before his reputation hits count on others.


Is this retroactive?

If someone has 49 posts and goes around stirring up a reputation storm, nothing they do will matter. If they post once more and reach 50, will all of the reputation they handed out previously come into effect, or is it just forgotten for all time?

[Brandon Martus]

It is not retroactive. Once your points count, they count from that point on .. nothing in the past.

[shyra1353]

is there a way to see how many reputation points some one else has ?? i know that you can see what category they fit under ? and, how many points does it take to get a second dot and a third and so on??

[Brandon Martus]

You can see the point levels here: in this thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=197971#post197971)

There isnt a way to see the # other people have (yet), but you can hover over the dots by their username, and see what level they are at.

[shyra1353]

You can see the point levels here: in this thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=197971#post197971)

i saw that, but some people who will become famous enough have two green dots while others have only one, so i was wondering if maybe this was a mistake, or if there are different ranking levels for the number of dots ??

[Duke 13370]

yep, in your user CP

http://forums.chiefdelphi.com/usercp.php??

Why don't i see it?

[Tytus Gerrish]

what system Goverens the ammount of Pips?

[Brandon Martus]

what system Goverens the ammount of Pips?
1 reputation bar/pip for every 100 points

[Joe Matt]

1 reputation bar/pip for every 100 points

If, say, I have 125 points, will I have two bars or will I have 1, and then get another when I get 200? Or is it...

1 bar=1-99 points
2=100-199
3=200-299
etc?

[Brandon Martus]

If, say, I have 125 points, will I have two bars or will I have 1, and then get another when I get 200? Or is it...

1 bar=1-99 points
2=100-199
3=200-299
etc?
$reputationbars = intval($reputation_value / 100); // award 1 reputation bar for every 100 points

And, the way it loops, it adds one to the bars, so:

50 => 1 bar
99 => 1 bar
125 => 2 bar
199 => 2 bar
359 => 4 bar

[Matt Adams]

I noticed that in my reputation tally box in my user CP menu.. there's a dot prefix that alternates between green and grey dots. After talking to some people, I wasn't given a negative comment yet. What does that dot prefix mean? Anything?

Matt

[Wetzel]

I noticed that in my reputation tally box in my user CP menu.. there's a dot prefix that alternates between green and grey dots. After talking to some people, I wasn't given a negative comment yet. What does that dot prefix mean? Anything?

Matt

That is the reputation of the person doing the rating.


Wetzel

[dlavery]

If, say, I have 125 points, will I have two bars or will I have 1, and then get another when I get 200? Or is it...

1 bar=1-99 points
2=100-199
3=200-299
etc?

The points are piled up into stacks, and these stacks are then measured with the official Stack Stick, which is divided into Stack Height Units (SHUs). Each SHU is 100 points tall. The number of bars (pips) is determined by the number of points available, rounded down to the nearest SHU marked on the Stack Stick. One bar (pip) is awarded for each SHU validly measured by the Stack Stick, plus one. Dimensions, drawings and precise details of the Stack Stick are being made available on the http://www.AreYouNuts?.com/ web site.

-dave


p.s. </satire off> ;)
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22 days to go!!!

[Matt Adams]

That is the reputation of the person doing the rating.


WetzelAndy Baker gave me a rep boost, and he only has one green dot by his name in my user cp link. Is that the rep of the person rating me at the time they do it, or is is the rep of them now?

I assume the later since Andy definitely has a couple green kuedo dots by his name now.

Matt

[Brandon Martus]

green = positive
gray = neutral (most likely the persons reputation doesnt count yet)
red = negative

[Brandon Martus]

Now that the range of reputation levels is growing, I'll ask again .. does anybody have any ideas for FIRST-related / humorous / witty phrases for the levels? I'd really like to get rid of the vB3 default values for these.

-999999 : User is infamous around these parts
-50 : User can only hope to improve
-10 : User has a little shameless behaviour in the past
0 : User is an unknown quantity at this poINT
10 : User is on a distinguished road
50 : User will become famous soon enough
150 : User has a spectacular aura about
250 : User is a jewel in the rough
350 : User is just really nice
450 : User is a glorious beacon of light
550 : User is a name known to all
650 : User is a splendid one to behold
1000 : User has much to be proud of
1500 : User has a brilliant future
2000 : User has a reputation beyond repute

We can go higher than 2000 (or have other intermediate levels) if the need arises. Also the word 'User' is replaced by their username. (example: 'Andy Baker is just really nice.')

[Andy Baker]

Here are some ideas:

-999999 : Nevermind what User says
-200: All we see is "blah, blah, blah"
-50 : Rebel without a cause
-10 : Renegade in training
0 : User has infinite potential, mathematically
10 : Well, it's a start
50 : User is creating momentum
150 : Hey, we need to start listening to User
250 : User has good things to say
350 : User is a leader in this area
450 : Listen up!
550 : Stop the presses!
650 :
1000 :
1500 : User sets the standard
2000 : Make it so

Just some ideas... some are good (make it so) and some are not (stop the presses!).

Andy B.

[Trashed20]

2000 : "Inhale Audibly"

eh, i got nothing.

I'm still not too big a fan of the reputation system but its growing on me I think. :)

[Ryan Foley]

-999999 : User is as trustworthy as anything dlavery says about the game prior to kickoff
-50 : User cant be trusted with power tools
-10 : User cant be trusted near robot control panels
0 : User asks "what's so important about kickoff?"
10 : User knows what the FIRST acronym stands for
50 : User still thinks there is more to life than FIRST
150 : User knows what they are talking about
250 : User spends too much time on CD
350 : User realizes you can never spend too much time on CD
450 : User accepts that FIRST is life
550 : User likes that FIRST is life
650 : User inhales audibly
1000 : User has the ability to understand everything about the 2001 game
1500 : User is next Ken L.
2000 : User next Andy Baker
5000 : User is next Brandon Martus
7500 : User is next Woodie Flowers
10000 : User is next Dean Kamen

just my idea, use all, some or none.

[Wetzel]

I like how you associated Dave with the worst reputation. It makes a strange sense....


Wetzel
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He can't hate because I just helped install his mill and lathe.
Cash one 'avoid Dave ____ Card'

[Katie Reynolds]

50 : User still thinks there is more to life than FIRST
1000 : User has the ability to understand everything about the 2001 game
I like those two!

650 : User inhales audibly Kinda confused ... at 650 points, the user "sucks"?? :confused:

[Ryan Foley]

I like those two!

Kinda confused ... at 650 points, the user "sucks"?? :confused:

um, no. I believe that Woodie Flowers once said something about set screws inhale audibly. And someone else said it should be a level, so I put it in there

[ChrisH]

um, no. I believe that Woodie Flowers once said something about set screws inhale audibly. And someone else said it should be a level, so I put it in there

OK, but it should be a level on the negative side of the scale. This is not a title to strive for!

[Trashed20]

When I used it in this same thread i used it as the highest. People inhale audibly when you hear or talk about a person. *GASP*! Very famous, whatever. I thought it was funny. :(

[George1902]

I had a few ideas about some positive and negative rep levels.

Negatives:
<User> suggests another 4 vs. 0 game to FIRST
<User> inhales like a set screw

Positives:
<User> knows well the concept of gracious professionalism
<User> exhibits gracious professionalism
<User> eats graciousness and craps professionalism
Got GP? <User> does!
<User> excels at FIRST aid
Pencil <User> in for next year's Woodie Flowers Award

I think the list is plenty long now. Brandon, is there some way you can set up a massive poll to pick the best ones out of those suggested?

[Kris Verdeyen]

So, since my first post of the year (a harmless joke reply to a harmless joke post (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=23504) ) was considered dingworthy on my reputation, I thought I'd come here to see if I could find out what exactly should be considered when rating the reputation of other posts?

Is it now inappropriate for a fun, lighthearted post in the Rumor mill? Furthermore, is whining about reputation (this post) dingworthy? Will I get marked down because in this post it's obvious that I haven't read the manual or done a CD search on reputation? What's the story? Or the link, or any happy thoughts?

[George1902]

What's the story? Or the link, or any happy thoughts?
For the first two, I'll direct you to this (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22964) thread.

For a happy thought, try pie (http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/pie.htm).

[DanL]

Is it now inappropriate for a fun, lighthearted post in the Rumor mill? Furthermore, is whining about reputation (this post) dingworthy? Will I get marked down because in this post it's obvious that I haven't read the manual or done a CD search on reputation? What's the story? Or the link, or any happy thoughts?

Thats the problem with the reputation system... people who take three seconds to gloss over an issue and get a wrong impression or who don't get the fact that people here on ChiefDelphi actually joke around (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23419&page=1&pp=20) still have the ability to lower your reputation. Thing is, over all, I think the system works itself out - the people who do the above usually do not have high reputation themselves, and so, their votes have little impact. If your post is truely worthy, I think the more reputable people will realize that and give you what is appropriate, thus overshadowing the former.

Yeah, you're going to dispute some of the reputation votes - for example, I have recieved a negative reputation vote for a post (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=200522#post200522) that was doing no more than stating my opinion in a thread that was asking for people's opinions. Yes, the post was contraversial, and I still think the person's justification for the negative vote had no foundation, but guess what? I got more positive votes for that post than the negative vote. Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to bring back a long-gone thread or start up a long-gone fued - I'm just trying to show that over the long run, especially with the votes of the people with the cooler heads and more rational thinking weighing more, the system does work. There always are going to be people that misinterpret your post or not understand your post is meant to be humorous or sarcastic, and you're going to disagree with the justifications they give for negative rep. However, I think that overall, the system was designed well and eventually you get what you earned.