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Leon Machado IV
22-12-2003, 15:19
Saw this picture and thought of all my FIRST friends, past, present, and those I've yet to meet. Merry Christmas to all.

Carolyn Duncan
22-12-2003, 15:44
Happy Holidays to those who may not celebrate Christmas too!! ;)

evulish
22-12-2003, 19:51
Ho ho ho..ly crap, I need to go shopping..

Happy holidays :)

Yan Wang
22-12-2003, 23:13
The Physics of Santa and His Reindeer

No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has ever seen.

There are two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn't appear to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total — 378 million according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes there's at least one good child in each.

Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second.

This is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75½ million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc.

This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

If every one of the 91.8 million homes with good children were to put out a single chocolate chip cookie and an 8 ounce glass of 2% milk, the total calories (needless to say other vitamins and minerals) would be approximately 225 calories (100 for the cookie, give or take, and 125 for the milk, give or take). Multiplying the number of calories per house by the number of homes (225 x 91.8 x 1000000), we get the total number of calories Santa consumes that night, which is 20,655,000,000 calories. To break it down further, 1 pound is equal to 3500 calories. Dividing our total number of calories by the number of calories in a pound (20655000000/3500) and we get the number of pounds Santa gains, 5901428.6, which is 2950.7 tons.

The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized lego set (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see above) could pull TEN TIMES the normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine. We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload (not even counting the weight of the sleigh) - to 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison - this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth. 353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each.

In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.

In conclusion: If there ever was a Santa, there isn't now.


^ An amusing flyer we got in AP Physics right before taking a test. Bah humbug.

mtaman02
23-12-2003, 03:19
Merry X-mas to all Happy New Year to all and Who ever celebrates disimilar holidays well Happy Holidays to all of you to. May the 2004 year bring you much luck and success whether its at home, at school, :D at work or building your new robot :D

Mike and Family

Ashley Weed
23-12-2003, 09:36
Oh my! Since Santa has been vaporized where will my presents come from now!?

Thought I would share some geeky cheer:
From: The Physics of Christmas, "On Christmas Cards"
1. A homemade card may say, "I am wealthy and have enough leisure time to make my own cards." Or it may declare, "Admire my artistic bent." Or it may coo, "I am spending all my time on your card to show you just how much I care for you."
2. A "green" card - says, featuring a large-eyed seal, winsome elephant, or leaping whale - printed in recylcled paper and carrying a greeting in a foreign language, can not only establish the senders environmental credentialsbut also suggests that the recipiend should feel a twinge of guilt for sending that commercial card on nonrecylced paper adorned with reindeer, Santa, or a mouse peeking out of a stocking.
3. A privately printed card reeks of money. But it also may suggest that the sender is too busy to fiddle around with signing a lot of cards. An interesting variant is the photograph card, which is calculated to show off that new house or addition to the family, whether a car or baby.
4. The institutional card may take various forms. Firms housed in particularly ugly buildings may have to resort to a generous amount of snow to hide the fact. Others choose to adorm their cards with some element to announce the business they are in, whether microchip, widget, or spiral of DNA. "This has much of the same function as people who wear allegiance tied, cuff links, blazer badges, or some other form of insignia, stating publicly their identification with the values and aims of an institution," Furnham and Leigh explain.
5. The political card is used as a badge of social belief, mostly exchanged between small groups of stalwarts.
6. The cartoon card is for those who have no desire to remember what Christmas is all about.
7. As for the microchip musical card, "their tinny warblings can only be stopped by violent means, and to make things worse, the picture will be of either a fluffy animal or a badly drawn snow scene. Sever all relationships with people who send these cards," the psychologists suggest. "There is no hope for them."



Fröhliche Weihnachten und ein Glückliches Neujahr!

EddieMcD
23-12-2003, 16:52
The Physics of Santa and His Reindeer

BlahBlahBlah...

In conclusion: If there ever was a Santa, there isn't now.
It's simple: he's going faster than light allowing him to be in multiple places at once. :p

And Happy Winter Solstice to all!

Matt Krass
23-12-2003, 17:14
*laughs at thought of reindeer with F.T.L. drives* Sorry, too much Battlestar Galactica

Beth Sweet
23-12-2003, 18:19
To monsieurcoffee the grinch,
Everyone knows that Santa travels through invisible Earth wormholes allowing him to slow time as he goes. The only reason that people refuse to understand things is because they refuse to look outside the box and be creative. I tend to enjoy using my own scientific theory. ahem... Figure out where you have to start and what end result you want, from there, all you have to fill in is the middle. So, if the end result is Santa getting to each house in one night and eating cookies, isn't it completely possible that he slows down time using that theory that says time slows around large masses and due to the excessive amount of cookies and milk, I would definately say that would make him a large mass, and so he can, in all reality, accomplish the task at hand. Anything is possible, miracles take more time.
~Bethy~
P.S. I was joking about the whole grinch thing... Please don't be angry.... :yikes:

Jeff Waegelin
23-12-2003, 18:34
Merry Christmas to all.

And to all a good night :p

evulish
23-12-2003, 18:56
Yeah. One good kid per house. Riiight. Santa probably only has 3 stops.

I had a good Christmas joke, but I think it's a tad bit too offensive (seeing as how there are a lot of people from NJ here :D)

patrickrd
24-12-2003, 00:07
Yan, you have too much time on your hands... But thanks for the laugh. Thanks Leon, and have a great holiday everyone!

- Patrick

geo
24-12-2003, 12:56
Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!!
Anyone who wish to track santa go to the site below
www.nordasanta.org

Justin Stiltner
24-12-2003, 14:40
Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!!
Anyone who wish to track santa go to the site below
www.nordasanta.org


Geo, ya transposed 2 letters there, try this link
www.noradsanta.org

happy white holidays everyone... or sunny for those in such locations hehe
:D

KUKRIER59
24-12-2003, 14:58
MERRY CHiristmas Everyone and a happy new year!!! ;)

KUKRIER59
24-12-2003, 15:07
Christmas*** Opps...hehehe

Matt Attallah
24-12-2003, 16:19
Good ole' merry christmas and a happy new year!

geo
24-12-2003, 18:10
Geo, ya transposed 2 letters there, try this link
www.noradsanta.org

happy white holidays everyone... or sunny for those in such locations hehe
:D
Oops, sorry Justin. Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!!

IMDWalrus
24-12-2003, 19:34
The Physics of Santa and His Reindeer

...blah blah blah...



If you liked that, here's another Santa physics article you might get a kick out of: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7561195.htm

Hope you all have a great holiday!

Sully
24-12-2003, 23:56
Merry Christmas to all and To all a good night

We are going to need it in another week or so!

Happy New Year

evulish
25-12-2003, 00:00
Merry freaking Christmas :)

Mike Martus
25-12-2003, 09:15
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from all of us at Team #47 - Chief Delphi.

Melissa Nute
25-12-2003, 11:21
And to all a good night...

Ricky Q.
25-12-2003, 12:44
woo Feliz Navidad!

EddieMcD
25-12-2003, 15:30
I found this on slashdot: History of Santa Claus

1689--Spanish-German explorer Santa Claus discovers the North Pole, and establishes a small base camp.

1691--Because of harsh and meager living conditions, Claus' crew abandons him.

1692--Claus is rescued by the Viking ship Hvorfor. He returns to Europe, bringing some items along with him from the North Pole. He finds he is able to sell them quite easily, making a small profit.

1703--Claus saves up enough money to buy a small ship and crew, and returns to the North Pole. Upon arriving, he finds his base camp, half-buried but still intact.

1704--Claus returns to Europe with a shipload of North Pole artifacts, and is successful in selling them. He makes enough profit to increase his crew, and buys building materials to expand his polar base.

1705--Claus returns again to the North Pole, and builds quarters for him and his crew, and sets up the Polar Exports Company.

1716--After six shiploads of exports, the European market is flooded with polar artifacts, as well as the phony ones making charlatans rich. Seeing this decline, Claus decides to invest his money by starting a toy company in his native Germany.

1720--Claus Toys becomes the largest toy company in Germany, but only because of Claus' underhanded business dealings. (It was also rumored that Claus was dealing with enemy countries as well). Competitors urged government officials to begin an investigation.

1721--Enough evidence is found, and charges are drawn up against the Claus Toys Company. Claus himself refuses to release his records.

1722--The German Supreme Court finds Claus guilty of tax evasion and of treason. When news of this breaks, Claus' employees all turn against him and his company.

1723--Claus is exiled to Sicily, and shortly before leaving, he absconds with all of the company's funds.

1724--A search party is sent to the Mediterranean to recover the funds, however, Claus hears of this ahead of time, and he and his Sicilian wife flee for their lives. (Some say he went into Northern Africa, but it is generally assumed that this was only a ruse to lure the searchers off course. He is believed to have returned to his North Pole base).

1725--Claus II is born en route to the North Pole.

1725-1734--The Claus' lay low at the North Pole. Claus teaches his son the arts of toy making and business dealings.

1735--Rumor has it that Claus has hired Scandinavian builders to construct a castle for him at the North Pole, making use of almost half of the company funds.

1739--The castle is finished, and is one of the largest in the world. Claus II reaches his fifteenth birthday, and in the same year, Claus' wife dies, accidentally falling from a balcony in one of the castle's great halls.

1740--Claus, mourning his wife, becomes increasingly ill.

1745--Santa Claus II becomes of age, and begins taking care of the castle and of his sick father.

1747--Using the remaining company funds, Claus II builds a small city around the castle to attract workers and craftsmen.

1748--Word of the North Pole settlement reaches Europe. The Elves of Eastern Europe, quickly becoming political outcasts and striving for a better life, begin immigrating in waves to the North Pole.

1753--All the elves have left Eastern Europe and have become firmly established at the North Pole. Claus II begins his father's toy company once again, with an estimated 30,000 elves employed. Claus I dies, at age 89.

1755--The North Pole officially becomes a nation, and Claus II and his wife take the throne. The toy business continues to flourish, and the elves enjoy prosperity. Claus III is born.

1757--The great stables are built, and scientists are secretly hired by Claus II to begin an ambitious project--that of breeding and training reindeer to fly.

OneAngryDaisy
25-12-2003, 16:51
The Physics of Santa and His Reindeer

No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has ever seen.

There are two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn't appear to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total — 378 million according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes there's at least one good child in each.

Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second.

This is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75½ million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc.

This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

If every one of the 91.8 million homes with good children were to put out a single chocolate chip cookie and an 8 ounce glass of 2% milk, the total calories (needless to say other vitamins and minerals) would be approximately 225 calories (100 for the cookie, give or take, and 125 for the milk, give or take). Multiplying the number of calories per house by the number of homes (225 x 91.8 x 1000000), we get the total number of calories Santa consumes that night, which is 20,655,000,000 calories. To break it down further, 1 pound is equal to 3500 calories. Dividing our total number of calories by the number of calories in a pound (20655000000/3500) and we get the number of pounds Santa gains, 5901428.6, which is 2950.7 tons.

The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized lego set (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see above) could pull TEN TIMES the normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine. We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload (not even counting the weight of the sleigh) - to 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison - this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth. 353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each.

In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.

In conclusion: If there ever was a Santa, there isn't now.


^ An amusing flyer we got in AP Physics right before taking a test. Bah humbug.

ahahaha- we got that after taking a test in AP Calculus- and our teacher was practically rolling around on the floor