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Gary Dillard
09-01-2004, 13:04
Got you to look, didn't I? I can't believe it's been almost 24 hours since the manuals were posted encrypted, and noone has yet claimed to have accessed them and posted some allegedly real but bogus pages from the game rules. I always look forward to that in this forum during the waining hours before kickoff every year. Who's going to step up to the plate? How about a fake kick-off video or something?
Swan217
09-01-2004, 13:32
Sounds like somebody has a low opinion of the ethics of CD forumers. :(
Kyle Fenton
09-01-2004, 13:37
I believe the password will be the name of the game, whatever that is.
George1902
09-01-2004, 13:38
Sounds like somebody has a low opinion of the ethics of CD forumers. :(

It's not that at all... it's just that Gary has such a high opinion of the CD pranksters. =-]
MissInformation
09-01-2004, 13:48
Would you believe I'm psychic? And I read Dave Lavery's mind... wait a minute... that's too scary to contemplate... so I read the mind of an anonymous someone who helped design the game and I double checked it with my magic 8 ball. It's going to be a game where you can run the entire game on or off autonomous mode, but if you run it on autonomous mode the whole time, you get extra points, however, if you get into a jam you can switch. It's going to have stairs, and hula hoops and inflatable clowns and fifty gallon drums, and slurpees... and the field is going to look like an express way during rush hour where you can try to take the express way straight to your goal or take an off ramp to a side road and get there but the side ways will take longer to reach your goal... oh, and some of the side roads will have ice... and, hey, wait a minute! I don't think I'm reading someone's mind... I think I've just been reading these threads too much lately...

Heidi

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and this is with no caffeine
Joe Matt
09-01-2004, 13:58
I believe the password will be the name of the game, whatever that is.


I think it actually will be a combination of numbers and letters. Probably, if they did this last year, 71StackAttack2003, or something like that, to lower the possability of someone hacking it.
KenWittlief
09-01-2004, 14:07
AH HA! I CRACKED THE CODE!

here is page one:

kljjk sad oiuj ; e;waukl;u n cii lkaci ilds jn fslk d
ad;lk [ nfc909en cn nchu jhf4 na; pf 3qpd alfoi
a;k opo hw oat pc np aoso alknra a o-=afjsjj
2owoc vmpn a a hrhrs alrk al heia nan ejkar

anybody know what language that is? I think I downloaded the swedish version by mistake.
DaSpyder
09-01-2004, 14:30
I opened it in Wordpad, and boy was that a mistake on my part. So many characters with so little time to crack the code, something i never had the slightest chance at ever doing.
danielkitchener
09-01-2004, 14:33
AH HA! I CRACKED THE CODE!

here is page one:

kljjk sad oiuj ; e;waukl;u n cii lkaci ilds jn fslk d
ad;lk [ nfc909en cn nchu jhf4 na; pf 3qpd alfoi
a;k opo hw oat pc np aoso alknra a o-=afjsjj
2owoc vmpn a a hrhrs alrk al heia nan ejkar

anybody know what language that is? I think I downloaded the swedish version by mistake.
looks like a language so evil that I dare not speak its name. I detest anyone who uses it and wish to inflict a slow and painful death upon them. It is an inhumane language, and an evil one that incurs violence at its very mention...Fine, I'll say it: Klingon...yuck!!! :ahh:
KenWittlief
09-01-2004, 14:42
yes! the manual is written in Klingon!

NOW were getting somewhere!

(and my wife laughed at me last night when I bought that yellow 'Encryption for Dummies' book at Barnes and Nobles)
dez250
09-01-2004, 14:47
AH HA! I CRACKED THE CODE!

here is page one:

kljjk sad oiuj ; e;waukl;u n cii lkaci ilds jn fslk d
ad;lk [ nfc909en cn nchu jhf4 na; pf 3qpd alfoi
a;k opo hw oat pc np aoso alknra a o-=afjsjj
2owoc vmpn a a hrhrs alrk al heia nan ejkar

anybody know what language that is? I think I downloaded the swedish version by mistake.

I think that is the language of Lavery-ish... :D
KenWittlief
09-01-2004, 14:51
ok I found a Klingon to english translation website

some of it came out gibberish

but the last three lines are:

"one bot to rule them all, one bot to find them
one bot to bring them here, and in the darkness bind them
in the killzone, where the shadows lie"
danielkitchener
09-01-2004, 15:00
Does that mean this year's challenge will be to throw the other team's robot into Mount Doom before the RingWraiths (Dean Kamen, Dave Lavery, et. al.) catch you???? I knew it!!!
Rob547
09-01-2004, 15:42
... and no hackers? No one can break that code? Interesting. I'm not one to pass judgement, seeing as I'm no hacker and I've not even downloaded the files yet, but I can't believe that nobody has the CPU skills to hack that code. I hear of people cracking into government systems and changing the temperature in the White House, but nobody in this whole Robotics compitition could break that code. Hmm... Guess we'll just wait 'till tomorrow.
fallnangelzbld
09-01-2004, 16:16
... and no hackers? No one can break that code? Interesting. Smart kids, hackers... whatever. We do have lives and can't spend them in front of the computer all day trying to crack something thats only gonna give us a few x-tra hours of time on the competition. It just wouldn't be worth it... and I have homework to do, oh yea... and that slave labor I do in a sweat shop for pay ... lol
God created man one day,
bergeeks were there taking notes.
Joe Ross
09-01-2004, 17:59
I heard through a friend that his friend cracked the code in about two hours.
D.J. Fluck
09-01-2004, 18:01
I heard through a friend that his friend cracked the code in about two hours.

I think your friend is lying....

Just like how FIRST cancelled The Championship last year ;)
Elgin Clock
09-01-2004, 18:05
15 characters long
Starts with the number 2


^
Overheard from an "associate" of mine.
True or False... you decide!

Maybe in the 18 hours from now till kickoff one of you whizzes will figure it out!
Bcahn836
09-01-2004, 18:13
afad
Does this mean anything to anyone???

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Argoth
09-01-2004, 18:13
... and no hackers? No one can break that code? Interesting. I'm not one to pass judgement, seeing as I'm no hacker and I've not even downloaded the files yet, but I can't believe that nobody has the CPU skills to hack that code. I hear of people cracking into government systems and changing the temperature in the White House, but nobody in this whole Robotics compitition could break that code. Hmm... Guess we'll just wait 'till tomorrow.

Maybe, there has been no reports of the code being hacked because no one here is stupid enough to make a fuss. Besides, if FIRST did find out about it they would either disqualify the team(s), or change the game.

Bcahn836, that looks like a mix of zip code and html code
D.J. Fluck
09-01-2004, 18:17
Maybe, there has been no reports of the code being hacked because no one here is stupid enough to make a fuss. Besides, if FIRST did find out about it they would either disqualify the team(s), or change the game.


They wouldnt change the game or DQ them, but the person definately would lose a lot of respect for doing it and publishing it.
Francis-134
09-01-2004, 18:24
Maybe they have broken the code, but there have been some very busy and fast admins partolling the Chief Delphi forum. Not like there is a problem with that, it would be best if we all just waited till, tommorow.
computhief263
09-01-2004, 18:25
Smart kids, hackers... whatever. We do have lives and can't spend them in front of the computer all


Wait? some ppl actually have lives?. I just have FIRST and computers, And build season is only 6 weeks.

That leaves alot of time for computer ;-)

God created man one day,
bergeeks were there taking notes.

/me like that quote *wonders off to search for the UberGeek holy grail* :] *Computer Idles w/ the away message "gone to seek E-mans assistance"*
Mike Soukup
09-01-2004, 18:31
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Does this mean anything to anyone???
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Yes, it means you just posted a bunch of worthless characters to the board for no reason. Anyone could have opened up the file in a text editor and seen the same thing, but we all know it's pointless.
djcapelis
09-01-2004, 22:08
Alright, first, FIRST is using really nice encryption here. It's unlikely and a cryptographically "hard" problem. (Hard means usually 1-20 years with a NSA supercomputer)

The weakest part of this implementation is the passphrase, FIRST knows enough to create a secure passphrase, however... with a dictionary attack combined with a hybrid random digit throwing on the beginnings and endings of the passphrase, one might be able to crack it. This is where the attack would come if anything... although, it's still kind of unlikely... as FIRST probably created something secure.

And then, one always has to account for something unexpected, like some small overlooked flaw.
ebmonon36
09-01-2004, 22:26
Does this mean anything to anyone???

OOO I know exactly what all of that means. It means that there are words and pictures and all kinds of other stuff in between the bashing of the keyboard with some wierd font. :p

Eric
Damian Manda
09-01-2004, 22:41
Does this mean anything to anyone???
Hey we can see what fonts they used. That solves the entire game! I mean, it must have something to do with Time, Romans and New stuff!
Eko
09-01-2004, 22:43
Yes, it means that this (*pokes screen*) is where the hash of the passphrase is so that the program can know if it is correct or not, and this (*pokes screen again*) is where the permissions are set.

The rest is the gibberish that happens to come when you encode something.

This is actually more than likely a cryptographically "annoying" problem. It's not hard, but it's not easy, mainly because it is (more likely than not) going to be made up of english words, and an applicable number or two.

I'd say that there is going to be 2004 at the beginning of it, and that was helped along by the above post. It is probably 2004[nameofgame] just so that it is harder to guess via a dictionary crack. If anyone is staying up really late tonight trying to find it, I can point you to a very good dictionary file (85,000).

If you find it out, feel free to email us all, and let us know. However, more than likely, we will not be awake to hear our computers announce an incoming message, so you'll be all alone in your glory.
danielkitchener
10-01-2004, 13:39
A bird told me:
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Actually, it was Woodie, Dave, and Dean...on the broadcast :rolleyes:
IronSlayTallica
10-01-2004, 14:54
Yup^ That's it.