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does anyone think that FIRST will check teams for suspicious 7-foot tall human players that cant tell the difference between a muffin fan and a zip tie?
IMDWalrus
10-01-2004, 21:31
does anyone think that FIRST will check teams for suspicious 7-foot tall human players that cant tell the difference between a muffin fan and a zip tie?
Well, there aren't any rules that say your human player has to be a certain height or IQ...wouldn't that be discriminatory?
Besides...it's just a coincidence that the six foot four guy on our team is a karate student and is the most coordinated out of any of us.
At first, my feelings toward the competition were lukewarm and then I remembered half of my team is on the varsity basketball team!
Good luck!
Practice your freethrows!
-Andy
Clark Gilbert
10-01-2004, 21:40
does anyone think that FIRST will check teams for suspicious 7-foot tall human players that cant tell the difference between a muffin fan and a zip tie?
HAHA...This is great. I can tell you live in Indiana, because my dad and i talked about this exact same thing on my ride back to Purdue. My brother mentioned, "Well, now all the teams are going to grab basketball players.". My dad brought up a good point that the FIRST season falls right on top of the basketball season so chances are there aren't many "true basketball players" (atleast here in Indiana) that would be willing to do it. I know of atleast one guy on our team that would be great for it though. The funny thing is at my old high school, a girls basketball team player would probably be better than one from the guys team. (Kokomo's girls team is pretty good, undefeated state champs last year).
Meredith Rice
10-01-2004, 21:47
Our human player who joined us last year happens to be a phenomenal b-ball player and she is also our official robot height guide because she is 5 feet tall! A very usefull person to have on the team and good with all the technical stuff too, certainly bright (going to Penn); gotta love Rhea. But enough bragging. Unfortunately we might have to recruit some other shooters for South Carolina and Nats if we go because she cant make those two comps.
hey clark got the idea....people it was a joke lol. but i was surprised with ur actual stories :D michigan born, indiana raised :)
kevin.li.rit
10-01-2004, 23:46
I doubt anyone would get any ringers from college basketball or pro. Maybe they might convince someone from their basketball team to join, but we won't need it I'm pretty good :P
Joe Matt
11-01-2004, 21:32
Hey, atleast this will be a good pick-up line for girls:
"Hey, I'm on the robotics team and I know your a good player. We need people like you. Plus, your hot. Are you available Saturday for meetings? How about Friday for the movies?"
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Gadget470
12-01-2004, 05:31
I doubt anyone would get any ringers from college basketball or pro. Maybe they might convince someone from their basketball team to join, but we won't need it I'm pretty good :P
Human players must be pre-college.
kevin.li.rit
12-01-2004, 07:02
Human players must be pre-college.
Yes I knew that, but they have no way of checking.
If you were watching the kickoff closely, the lady on the right scored a much higher percentage of shots then Jason did. Jason shot basketball style, the lady (whose name starts with a M, but I can't remember it:-/) threw them soccer throwin style. She got 99%, and missed one when it was full and fell out between the pipes. Jason was shooting closer to 80%.
Wetzel
Ragin_Kage
12-01-2004, 13:35
If you were watching the kickoff closely, the lady on the right scored a much higher percentage of shots then Jason did. Jason shot basketball style, the lady (whose name starts with a M, but I can't remember it:-/) threw them soccer throwin style. She got 99%, and missed one when it was full and fell out between the pipes. Jason was shooting closer to 80%.
Wetzel
I really dont think throwing these balls into the goals will be that difficult, why dont you just grab yourslef one of those mobile goals, drag it to yourself and dump the balls over the glass...worked excellent for us in 2002, and if you are going long range thumbs up on the soccer style :)
Im sure if you cant come up with a human based solution from the start, like throwing them in, use some strategy, good luck guys
Joe Matt
12-01-2004, 13:42
I really dont think throwing these balls into the goals will be that difficult, why dont you just grab yourslef one of those mobile goals, drag it to yourself and dump the balls over the glass...worked excellent for us in 2002, and if you are going long range thumbs up on the soccer style :)
Im sure if you cant come up with a human based solution from the start, like throwing them in, use some strategy, good luck guys
Yes, it will be hard. VERY HARD. It's not just like having a basket infront of you. You have a huge board infront of you to shoot over. We had many people try this in the 2001, 2002 season and it's hard to do. VERY hard, even with the moveable goal, it might even be harder since you would have to throw it directly up and over, much harder than in a line.
Good call on the soccer style throw-in's. The throw is basically a soccer throw in, you've got to get it over a 7 foot obstical (normally a player jumping, but in this case a wall.) Travel 25 feet, and hit a player in the chest or head (about the hight of the stationary goal). We've got the two kids with the best throw-in's on our soccer team on FIRST this year, so I don't think shooting will be a problem. Personally I'm wondering about how much force it takes to pop the multiplyers out of the goals. I can make a wicked throw-in... (legally ambiguous however)...
Ragin_Kage
12-01-2004, 14:45
Good call on the soccer style throw-in's. The throw is basically a soccer throw in, you've got to get it over a 7 foot obstical (normally a player jumping, but in this case a wall.) Travel 25 feet, and hit a player in the chest or head (about the hight of the stationary goal). We've got the two kids with the best throw-in's on our soccer team on FIRST this year, so I don't think shooting will be a problem. Personally I'm wondering about how much force it takes to pop the multiplyers out of the goals. I can make a wicked throw-in... (legally ambiguous however)...
Yeah thats how it was on my team really, the three of us (driver, controller, and human) were all on the soccer team, so it wasnt too too hard in 2002, considering they were Actual soccer balls, haha, but this year the balls are way more bouncy...but then again, you have more a backboard this year on the stationary goals, its all practice, you saw it wasnt too hard at kickoff
maxgebhardt
12-01-2004, 16:30
I wouldn't be as worried about the obviously new 7 foot team member as I would a new team member named "robbie" who is the size of a refigerator and wieghs one metric ton, and has 100% shooting accuracy.
RabidWombat
12-01-2004, 17:46
Hey, thanks for the throw-in idea, all of 639's going nuts over the human part of this thing, since none of us are on any sports teams. Read my post in the human element thread in the rules forum for more of my opinion, since I'm too darn lazy to post it again (though I wrote almost as much directing you to the other post, and here I go again...)
Kerry157
13-01-2004, 11:03
the soccer throw in is a much better idea... the throw is taught at an angle that stays longer in the air and gets more distance.. plus the ball gets more power... and is much more accurate for this type of game
maxgebhardt
13-01-2004, 20:05
hey I wonder... what if you made some sort of lexan device that was tailored to the shooter, that clamped on the arms and back to ensure that the shooter's form was perfect...
hey I wonder... what if you made some sort of lexan device that was tailored to the shooter, that clamped on the arms and back to ensure that the shooter's form was perfect...
Not allowed per <G10>
HUMAN PLAYERs cannot be aided by any object or ther person. Violating this rule will result in the disabling of the team’s ROBOT and the team will be disqualified.
Wetzel
Lil' Lavery
14-01-2004, 17:57
Jason shot basketball style, the lady (whose name starts with a M, but I can't remember it:-/) threw them soccer throwin style.
I think her name was Melissa. Plus the soccer team shouldnt have practices yet, so that might be a good oppurtunity to get someone.
Does it matter what height they are? Maybe they'll ask your student ID or something if you look suspicious... :ahh: but it shouldn't be that stringent. :)
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