High Scores

[cbudrecki]

What are the highest scores this year? Watching the VCU webcast, and the highest there is only 130. Theoretically, the highest possible winning score would be 380/375. (This would give you a win and the 375 ranking pts.) I'm sorta dissapionted that teams are struggling to break 100. I think human players need some more practice shootin' hoops.

[David Kelly]

What are the highest scores this year? Watching the VCU webcast, and the highest there is only 130. Theoretically, the highest possible winning score would be 380/375. (This would give you a win and the 375 ranking pts.) I'm sorta dissapionted that teams are struggling to break 100. I think human players need some more practice shootin' hoops.

They've had a couple of 170's in Portland

[Shu Song]

I think i saw a 5-15 match in a webcast yesterday. I think that was the lowest i've seen. But other than that, nothing really specail aobut the scores.

[ArJubx]

Do scores have to be high to be exciting? The final match at VCU was awesome....Final score came out as 45-40. Both teams had many previous rounds that they managed over 100. This was by far the best round I observed.

[Munkaboo]

I think i saw a 5-15 match in a webcast yesterday. I think that was the lowest i've seen. But other than that, nothing really specail aobut the scores.

We won one 5-0.

Thanks to penalities we managed to win, otherwise we would have lost.


But it killed our ranking points =/

[jeremy562]

At GSR I think it was about 150. We had a 140-something match, and a 130-50 match.

[tkwetzel]

At richmond, I believe the highest for a team was 140, but their opponent only had 70 points. However, I believe the highest combined score was 125-120 when all 4 bots hung on the bar. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[teno121]

140-145 at BAE with teams... 40, 138, 213, and 319 I think.

[Lil' Lavery]

The highest at richmond was int he finals when the alliance had 140. The highest overral match score in VCU was 125-120 when the 4 of us hung on the bar.(yay, we can hang!) Thats the only time all four robots hung in any of the regionals thusfar. Most of the winning scores in the qualifiers were in the 60s.

[Jones571]

in NJ the highest I saw was 140-something other then that a lot didn't really break a hundred. Friday was relatively a lower scoring day then Saturday.

[Jillian B.]

Highest at BAE was 150 pts.

[Mike8519]

I think the reason a lot of high scores aren't being had is because most teams cant effectively get the small balls to the HP's. I thought many more bots would concentrate on small balls, but most are bar hangers. Only 3 robots could pick up the small balls and carry them around in NJ. Herders/pushers just didnt seem effective enough. Small balls are the basis of the game to some. Its a Bar VS Ball game this year.

[Elgin Clock]

The high score on Friday in NJ was 140.
It was tied on Saturday during a finals match, and not to be outdone, one of the teams that made the 140 score on friday had a score of 150 on Saturday!
(BTW, it was us... but it was scored aligned with different partners each time though!)

[Jeffrafa]

Yeah there were two that were 170 in Portland, one was without anyone on the bar, just both goals filled and capped.

The other i think was with two hangers and some scored balls, im not entirely shure though since i didnt see it.

The reason for the low scores isnt usually because of bad shooters, many teams including us had 90+ percent shooters, it was a matter of getting the balls to the shooters that was limiting.

Basically hanging was the big points and the balls were the tie-breaker if each side had a hanging robot, although occasionally there were three on the bar

[Pat Roche]

140-145 at BAE with teams... 40, 138, 213, and 319 I think.


134 also had 2 rounds with scores around 145 and there were two 150 point rounds i believe and i think 1 160 point match...i could be wrong

-Pat

[Petey]

What are the highest scores this year? Watching the VCU webcast, and the highest there is only 130. Theoretically, the highest possible winning score would be 380/375. (This would give you a win and the 375 ranking pts.) I'm sorta dissapionted that teams are struggling to break 100. I think human players need some more practice shootin' hoops.

I believe the highest score I saw at Manchvegas was about 150. I did miss a few matches whilst preparing to be human player, but I'm fairly sure no one went much higher than that.

On Thursday, during the practice rounds, an alliance of us (Team 1073) and Team Hyper 69 scored well over 200 points during the 2 minute limit. Our robot herded an ungodly amount of balls (it can do four at a time very well) to me and Joe (the hyper human player), and we filled up the stationary goal. That was capped by Hyper. They then hung. Joe and I then proceeded to fill up the mobile goal. Though there was no official tally, I counted the number of balls roughly and the final score was over 200 points.

Man, we were a good alliance. Unfortunately, they were seeded second, and we were seeded ninth, and when 501 (1st seed) picked Hyper, we were bumped up, and therefore unable to be chosen. Hyper's robot played in all of the finals matches and the alliance of Hyper, The Power Knights, and Team 176 eventually won Manchvegas.

But yeah...that was the highest I've seen so far...

--Petey

[cbudrecki]

The reason for the low scores isnt usually because of bad shooters, many teams including us had 90+ percent shooters, it was a matter of getting the balls to the shooters that was limiting.

Yeah, i thought of that after I posted, of course. Didn't mean to insult any HP's out there. Most that I saw on the webcast were real good, and consistent, they just ran out of balls.

[Petey]

The reason for the low scores isnt usually because of bad shooters, many teams including us had 90+ percent shooters, it was a matter of getting the balls to the shooters that was limiting.



Which is why our robot did so well (9th seed, 5-2-1 record)--because our efficient and effective ball herding system consistently got our alliance 8 to 15 balls per match and allowed us to match up well with anyone who could cap and/or hang.

:D

Our losses came when we were matched with non-cappers/hangers or with cappers/hangers who couldn't work. We were looking forward to nationals, where we figured that all of the teams that made it that far would be able to cap/hang consistently, but we lost in the finals after we were bumped up to seventh seed. Oh well :(

--Petey

[WernerNYK]

I was in the pits most of the time at Manchester, but didn't even realize that we may have had THE highest score at the regional. We won a match with 176, 150-100 on Saturday.

[RyanMcE]

My team, 492 and team 1031 combined to tie the high score on Saturday at the Pacific Northwest Regional in Portland, Oregon. We did it with one robot hanging, 12 balls in the big goal, and the big goal capped. Needless to say, our human players rocked, and pretty much everything went perfectly that round.

Interestingly, we were against our second alliance partner that round. Our next match, we were against 1031, and they nearly tipped us over, after which we prevented them from hanging for only the second time during qualifications.

The other round in which 170 points were scored in portland involved a team getting a small goal under the ball release and removing the big ball, and getting both the big and little goals capped at the end. That was a fun match to watch as well.

Here is a picture (http://www.titanrobotics.net/index2.cfm?page=IG.cfm&thread=IGviewpic.cfm&ImgID=250&cat=12) of our score. You can look around the gallery to see pictures of Atlas, our robot, collecting balls and capping goals.

Winning here secured enough money for us to attend the Championship event... see you all there, hopefully.

~Ryan

[cbudrecki]

i can't wait to see 200+ scores

[PEKMAN]

The score in the second final in the NJ regional was 140-120.

It was an intense game. :cool:

[Terminator6]

At VCU Buzz 9 was able to get 18 balls in the big goal in one of the chapmionship rounds if my memory serves me correctly...they didn't, however, have a partner that could cap. I was a bit dissapointed because had they been able to cap, we would have seen 180 alone without any other points (ie hanging, small goal)...nationals should be quite the show in that sense...i would love to see an over 200 points game...that would be awesome :)

[Tom Bottiglieri]

there was a score 140-55 in the quarterfinals 1.1 ---- 195 and 11 vs 181 and 571

[Ilyushin269]

In NJ my team, team 11 MORT, got a 170 point round making it the 2nd highest of the weekend, but I dont know what the other higher score was.

[Mike M.]

In quarterfinal 1.1 at UCF they had a 180-40 match thats the highest i've seen yet.

[matt111]

we had a few 0-0 matches...a 0-5 and a 5-10... highest was a dismal 160...

[Ryan M.]

I wasn't there for qualifiying matches, but the highest score in the alliance pairing matches at the Pittsburg regional was 125. :ahh:

[Jonathan M.]

In quarterfinal 1.1 at UCF they had a 180-40 match thats the highest i've seen yet.

Yup 945's Robot sure was a good one, good enough to keep us from the platform twice (we fell and righted our selves), then well we fell again. Exciting match though. The Alliance we picked tried to hang too, but that didn't work out. Lol. Oh well we lost to the greatest in QF 1.1, and gave them a run for their money in the next match, which was a lot closer.

In our last match on Friday us, paired with THINK PINK (233[The Space Coast Team]) achieved a score of 140, with 8 balls in the goal (go shooters!) and both robots hanging. :)

[Mike Norton]

the UCF 180 point could of been higher but we got a -10 point flag


Team 61 and team 945

[Arefin Bari]

the first final match @ UCF regional had a tie... and i think that was the highest tie scored this year so far... 120 - 120... 4 robots hanging from the bar and 4 balls in each stationary goal... that was a mad awesome match to see...

[RoteAugen]

140-145 at BAE with teams... 40, 138, 213, and 319 I think.


yeeeaahh team 138!!

Saber pride baby :D


it really sucks that Trinity (team#40) is in the same boat as 61 (not enough money to go to nats)

if any of them are readin this: You have one helluva bot right there. keep on truckin

[Allison K]

The highest match I saw was 165 - 60 with 494 (martians) on the winning side and my team (226- TEC CReW) on the losing side. I can't remember the other two teams in that match. the other high one I saw was 120 - 120 in the elimination rounds. The lowest I saw was 10-0 with my team on the winning side. All this at GLR.

Allison

[Will Hanashiro]

The highest match I saw was 165 - 60 with 494 (martians) on the winning side and my team (226- TEC CReW) on the losing side. I can't remember the other two teams in that match. the other high one I saw was 120 - 120 in the elimination rounds. The lowest I saw was 10-0 with my team on the winning side. All this at GLR.

Allison

team 322 was paired with 494 in this match...

[Crash852]

The highest match I saw was 165 - 60 with 494 (martians) on the winning side and my team (226- TEC CReW) on the losing side. I can't remember the other two teams in that match. the other high one I saw was 120 - 120 in the elimination rounds. The lowest I saw was 10-0 with my team on the winning side. All this at GLR.

Allison
Team 492 scored 170 points in one match with Team 1031 , which was tied for highest scoring match at the Pacific NW Regional. See, our team is only two teams older than Team 494, and we both scored the highest points at our respective regionals!!

Ok, i am REALLY lame.

[RMiller]

The highest qualification score at STL was 145-70 with 1272 and 650 beating 939 and 1182. However throughout the finals at least half the scores involved one or two alliances above 100. All but the first match out of four in the finals saw both alliances above 100 points (80-80, 130-120, 135-140, 135-110).

[Anthony Towne]

there were 3 150-pt matches at BAE. Our team (176) was in 2 of those. One of the teams we were with (501) was practically undefeated the entire competition. They were our alliance partner in the finals (along with 69) and went all the way.

[OP65]

I think I heard Paul Copioli screaming about a high scoring match! I was coming out of the chairmans interview at the time. I think it was about 165 or something close to it. Breaking 100 in GLR was a rare thing. Closer to the close of the regional it started to happen more often. I expect at midwest to see a 200 match. Quote me on that... :cool:

[Dave Vivecian]

Hey ryan from 967!!!!
Grats on the win again guys!

967 rocks my world!!!!!!!!

[Whalley]

tean 121 won a match 180 to 120, if we had only hung....... darn

[Steve Horn]

There was a match on Friday at UTC 90 to 180. 180 is the highest score ive seen...im dissapointed that i havent seen a 200 game yet.

[Joe Ross]

There was a 200 in Sacramento: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=238490&postcount=38 and I'm sure there will be more to come.

[Joe Ross]

Wow, 165 to 150 in Elim 3.1 at UTC

[Joe Ross]

200 to 140 for 126, 173, and 1100 against #1 seed 181, 782, 157

[Steve Shade]

200 to 140 for 126, 173, and 1100 against #1 seed 181, 782, 157

At the Chesapeake Regional, the new high score was set to 210. I forget which teams were in the match, but it was in one of the Semi-Final matches.

Steve

[Thorin]

yea today in the sacramento regional there was a 210 point win in the elimination rounds where all 4 bots were hanging on the bar.

[jprkr2004]

Today at the UTC Regional Team 126 and their allience partners had a 200 to 150(Im not sure on the 150 but it was arround there) match during finals

[MisterX]

Well ours wasn't the the highest as the 200 match of Gael Force beats ours out but the 150-165 match was definalty intense and it could have gone either way with us getting a foul bringing us to the 160 but now it is being thought that it MIGHT have been POSSIBLE for our penalty to actually have been applied to the other alliance with the CHANCE that they COULD have pushed us in making it us 160-155. But that is all uncertain as we have yet to view any videotape but the final score is the one that stands as does what the refs deemed proper and I'll believe their decision. Never the less ... ONE AMAZING GAME especailly for so early in the finals with the very first match of the 2nd alliance (571, 716, 230 The eventaul UTC champs) versus the 7th alliance (545, 521, 1027) in the playoffs :ahh:

p.s.there was only one hanger for each alliance in this match it truly was the balls that made all the difference counting for over 100 point for each allaince

[warpspeed]

Although we didn't make finals we had one good qualifying round. We were with 571(team peragon) and we hung while they handled small balls and capped. We had about 185 but the other alliance had 0 so it didn't help much.

[ReggieB]

WE (449) had the high score of the Chesapeake Regional (185) and highest combined (125-120) untill the elimination rounds, where our two alliance members beat or score with 210 points. That was team 16 and 1405. At the Chesapeake Regional there were a lot of games in the 100+ range, the final game of the finals our alliance won 120-100. Proof:
http://www.mbhs.edu/~aajohnso/robo04/regionals/
(there are a bunch of pix from the finals there)

[codeoftherobot]

Today at the Sacramento Regional, the highest score was 210-125, matching the highest score in the nation along with 4 robots hanging. Congrats to all at Sacramento!!!

[cbudrecki]

At the Chesapeake Regional, the new high score was set to 210. I forget which teams were in the match, but it was in one of the Semi-Final matches.

Steve

Yeah, the winning alliance was 16 & 1405, and they later went on to win the comp by only 2 balls. :(

[Matt D]

Today at the Sacramento Regional, the highest score was 210-125, matching the highest score in the nation along with 4 robots hanging. Congrats to all at Sacramento!!!

That was us (254) with 753 in the first finals match. There were four robots on the bar, goal capped (with 11 balls in it).

[Fireworks 234]

This is a little late but in the Arizona regional we got the highest score (our alliance), 150, and the highest combined score (our alliance and opposing alliance), 120-100.

That regional was very intense, can't wait for Chicago. :D

[Elgin Clock]

These top scores in the country (200-210 range) is still not within the high score on the FIRST Frenzy animation we have all seen.


The high score on that animation was 240 I believe. I think the score was 240-195.

Anybody up for a friendly bet as to whether or not we will see a score that high, and where? (Regionals - Nationals) (Qualifications - Finals)

[Steve Horn]

Today at the UTC Regional Team 126 and their allience partners had a 200 to 150(Im not sure on the 150 but it was arround there) match during finals

I remember it was 140 to 200. 782, 181, and 157 got eliminated with that score from you guys, but it was a good round with a great high score.

[Yan Wang]

These top scores in the country (200-210 range) is still not within the high score on the FIRST Frenzy animation we have all seen.


The high score on that animation was 240 I believe. I think the score was 240-195.

Anybody up for a friendly bet as to whether or not we will see a score that high, and where? (Regionals - Nationals) (Qualifications - Finals)

I bet you'll see it in Canada :)

10 days!!

[Salik Syed]

Thorin???? who r u? Robovikes.....thats our team...

[Phopon]

That was us (254) with 753 in the first finals match. There were four robots on the bar, goal capped (with 11 balls in it).

We had one more in our hands too, but you guys capped the goal too fast, we could have had 220 easily. We ended the game with it in our hands sad that there was nowhere for it to go.

[tkwetzel]

We had one more in our hands too, but you guys capped the goal too fast, we could have had 220 easily. We ended the game with it in our hands sad that there was nowhere for it to go.

Could you have not shot it at any of the other goals. Not all of the goals can be capped at once, and throwing it in your partners wouldn't have hurt you. There was no need to hold on to it at the end of the game. You could have at least attempted to increase the score.

[Steve W]

In Detroit this weekend the high points was 135 and the highest QP was 85. They were not in the same match.

[Dr.Bot]

You need two ball handlers that can hang, plus maybe a specialty robot that can get one or two of the 10 point bonus balls, or steal 5 pt balls from the opponents.

Step one
Both robots go fo mobile goals, bring them over and uncap - hopefully not triggering opponent bonus -1 robot positions mobile goal under oponent ball drop and defends. (A good programable autonomous mode to block out opponents)

Step two
Gather balls ( maybe bonus balls get to human player. Get ten balls into stationary goal, 4 or more into mobile goal (perhaps a yellow or two, cap
both goals at the 30 second left mark.(140) Good herding ability, shooters.

Step three: get two robots hanging.(100) Hard to hang if being pushed.

Total score 240+.

Will we see a 240 at the Nationals - I think so. Will there be a 300 - probably not. There are not enough big ball handlers that can hang. I've only seen 1 10pt ball scored.

[Peter Matteson]

130 was our high qualifying score, WITH NO HANGERS. We scored small balls and doubled. I wanted to know if anyone beat that with out a hanger yet.

[MrToast]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the highest possible score for any one team is 660 - 0.

(This is assuming you pop all the balls and then figure out a way to stuff 52 balls into two goals. This is also assuming you get every single ball)

48 5 point balls = 240 points (36 dumped, 12 to start with)
4 10 point balls = 40 points
TOTAL for balls = 280 points

double the points via a doubler = 560 points

both 'bots hanging = 100

TOTAL = 660 points

I'll buy every person on both teams a car of their choice if they can do this....

[Peter Matteson]

(This is assuming you pop all the balls and then figure out a way to stuff 52 balls into two goals. This is also assuming you get every single ball)


I like how you added the pop every ball stipulation. I haven't seen many 5pt balls poped in competion but I've seen about 10 doubler balls pop.

[jeremy562]

130 was our high qualifying score, WITH NO HANGERS. We scored small balls and doubled. I wanted to know if anyone beat that with out a hanger yet.

At BAE we (562, along with 126) scored 140 without hanging in a qualifying round. Sorry! :p

[Devin L.]

Today at the UTC Regional Team 126 and their allience partners had a 200 to 150(Im not sure on the 150 but it was arround there) match during finals

here is that match (http://www.team195.com/video/utc_2004/semi_1.3.zip) :)

[Meandmyself]

Highest score at Annapolis this past weekend was over 200. They made an announcement about how this was the highest scoring one in the nation so far. I don't remember exactly what the score was, but both the stationary and mobile goals were capped and both bots were hanging.

[thewizard16]

Hey all,

Our team had the honor of being part of the round to currently hold the high score for the nation (210 at Annapolis). It was an amazing round for both sides. Goals were capped, our alliance had both bots on the bar... It was quite the match. We didnt see anything near that in St. Louis, so I'm really looking forward to nationals to see what kind of scores come out of the rounds there.

[Xufer]

Team 521 had 150 points (against paragon team 571 - best match ever !)as theyre highest score with 105 as highest qp and an average of 82.7 points

[Yan Wang]

I just heard that Team 67 HOT had a 220 point match at Buckeye. Awesome!

[Jon K.]

I remember it was 140 to 200. 782, 181, and 157 got eliminated with that score from you guys, but it was a good round with a great high score.
The other team to get the 200 with 126, was RAGE(173). We and Buzz(175)held the high score for UTC New England until that match with a score of 190.
190 was the highest Qualifying match at UTC and then the 200 was the all time high at UTC.

[Clanat]

130 was our high qualifying score, WITH NO HANGERS. We scored small balls and doubled. I wanted to know if anyone beat that with out a hanger yet.

There was a 170 point match at Portland with no hangers (earlier in the thread).

[Cory]

I'll wager a 6 pack of Dew (or your favorite soda) that SVR will top the current high score, next week :)

Cory

[FormatteD_C]

Just finished the Buckeye Regional today, it was great... awesome robots. Yan you're right about the Hot Team #67 with the 220, I saw the match it was crazy, lots of 5 point balls in, both goals capped by Team 67 and they both hung, it was mind blowing!

[Beth Sweet]

I just heard that Team 67 HOT had a 220 point match at Buckeye. Awesome!

Wow, that's all I can say. Today was absolutely amazing. We (67) would like to thank our partner in that match (1126) and the alliance captain (340) for that quarterfinal match. The day was amazing, and I am still in shock! :ahh:

[henryBsick]

We didn't have high score matches, but we did have pretty high scores on our own. At Philly, our alliance partner broke once, then another match our alliance got tangled up with another bot so they were ineffective. Both of these matches were then played 2 on 1 , us being the 1. Also both of these matches ended in us having 150 points . By ourself. I thought it was pretty decent. This happened in the qualifiers. If there are any others let me know. I would love to hear.

[Peter Matteson]

Here's another no hanger high score 90 points small balls. NO DOUBLER. Lindsey, our human player was on fire in Philly. I know with doublers teams have scored higher but who expected 18 small balls to be scored by 1 team this year.

[Cory]

If I remember correctly, team 33, the killer bees did that in week one at VCU during the elimination rounds.

Cory

[D.J. Fluck]

45 and 269 scored 210 in Finals Match 1 today...when we went to cap, we knocked one of the balls out...doh...

oh well at least we tied the old high score at the time...

[tatsak42]

I like how you added the pop every ball stipulation. I haven't seen many 5pt balls poped in competion but I've seen about 10 doubler balls pop.

Oops. our team popped 6 in practice rounds, but we fixed that problem. Had a "Ball Smoted" tally (by the way, what's the right past participle for "smite"?)

Highest score at Colorado Regional was 200 by Team 60 and somebody else. One robot hanging, 2x multiplier.. not exactly sure if it was 15 in that goal, or a different combination.

[Heretic121]

What are the highest scores this year? Watching the VCU webcast, and the highest there is only 130. Theoretically, the highest possible winning score would be 380/375. (This would give you a win and the 375 ranking pts.) I'm sorta dissapionted that teams are struggling to break 100. I think human players need some more practice shootin' hoops.
wow... very harsh on HP's espically when we have the biggest part of depending on how well we do is all up to how well our team does... we get the pressure also of where a match can come down to 5pts which is either 1 miss or 1 make of a shot!!!! its not our fault in any way shape or forum that its hard to break 100 regularly... we did it in 7/9 of our matches at UTC... i at least get 2/3 of the first 3 balls in the staitionary, and even if me and the other HP both make our 3 balls thats only 30 points... so then from thier its up to the drivers and manipulators to gather small balls, to get 2x balls and cap, and to hang...

*disregared what i said towards you tb... i didnt see your middle post there =P... but ya...

[rachakate]

Wow, that's all I can say. Today was absolutely amazing. We (67) would like to thank our partner in that match (1126) and the alliance captain (340) for that quarterfinal match. The day was amazing, and I am still in shock! :ahh:

I don't know of a more text book match than that one. I had heard rumors that the buckeye regional was going to have an archived webcast available. I sure hope so because that's a match I want to watch over and over. Thanks for being such a great alliance partner!!

[Alex Cormier]

is 220 still alive for now??

[~JeSsIcA~]

In the midwest regionals the high score was 210. i belive that tied the highest score so far.

[KingsvilleKukes]

at the Canadien regionals our robot and our alliance managed to score 140, which was the highest score for almost all of the first day. Point were widly differentiated between rounds, soume teames were easily doing 100+ point round while other teams were winning in 5 vs. 0 point rounds. :ahh:

[Xufer]

what caused those 0 vs 5 rounds ?

[Yan Wang]

at the Canadien regionals our robot and our alliance managed to score 140, which was the highest score for almost all of the first day. Point were widly differentiated between rounds, soume teames were easily doing 100+ point round while other teams were winning in 5 vs. 0 point rounds. :ahh:

773, though 639 and your team scored a 140 point match, it was broken very soon afterwards by 1241's 150 point match. 150 was the highest RP in Canada, while 639 and 33's 170 point match was the highest in the elimination rounds.

[Lil' Lavery]

the highest scores so far i think are 210, in Chesepeake and Midwest.

[AmyPrib]

the highest scores so far i think are 210, in Chesepeake and Midwest.

From what I'm seeing/hearing, 220 is still the highest from Buckeye. At Midwest, we had tied with the 210 high score, but ironically, Buckeye was going on at the same time when the 220 was scored.
I'm hoping to see some record breakers in Atlanta!

[Alex Cormier]

From what I'm seeing/hearing, 220 is still the highest from Buckeye. At Midwest, we had tied with the 210 high score, but ironically, Buckeye was going on at the same time when the 220 was scored.
I'm hoping to see some record breakers in Atlanta!
thank you, yes the highest score right now is 220, buckeye alliance 340,67 and 1126.

[Allison]

what is the record for number of small balls in the stationary goal? we got 21.

is 21 balls in the stationary goal with a cap a record just out of curiousity?

[Yan Wang]

what is the record for number of small balls in the stationary goal? we got 21.

is 21 balls in the stationary goal with a cap a record just out of curiousity?

I believe in Canada during 639 and 33's first elimination match, 33 got 115pts of small balls in - that'd be 23 balls.

*I remember our robot had a leak and didn't hang - otherwise, what I said would be wrong and Buzz would've gotten 65 outta the 115 pts. But I'm pretty sure they got it all. Anyone got video?*

[kmcclary]

what is the record for number of small balls in the stationary goal? we got 21.

is 21 balls in the stationary goal with a cap a record just out of curiousity?A very interesting question! The Buckeye's 220 (current high record?) was done with bots on the bar, and a ball split between the rolling and the static goals (both capped)... So I know it won't be in contention for THAT record.

What OTHER kinds of "records" can anyone come up with for this contest, to check?

How about...

- The most points SCORED during Autonomous Mode?

- The most balls COLLECTED during Autonomous Mode?

Anyone get the ENTIRE drop without spilling any?
It's also POSSIBLE (but VERY unlikely), to be GREATER than 18, and under WILD circumstances as high as 36... :D

- Keith

[Josh Fritsch]

I believe there was a 210 at the Midwest regional

[tkwetzel]

- The most points SCORED during Autonomous Mode?

It isn't possible to score points in autonomous! Even if you hang during autonomous, you have to be hanging at the end of the match, so you haven't actually scored until you remain hanging at the end. And your human player can't put any small balls into the goals.


OH!!!!....I just realized that you can score in autonomous! By moving a mobile goal under the ball drop and having the balls drop in.

[Dennis Jenks]

Ok, I know there are some awesome teams out there, so I'm curious, who else has hit 200 on multiple ocasions this season?

[kmcclary]

It isn't possible to score points in autonomous! [...]
OH!!!!....I just realized that you can score in autonomous! By moving a mobile goal under the ball drop and having the balls drop in. Exactly! Although I do now realize that the max theoretical score during autonomous will probably about 10 or so (or whatever is the capacity of the rolling goal that didn't bounce out from the momentum of the dropping balls). You can't be in two places at once, though you COULD drag it over the the OTHER drop by sec 45.

Unless of course someone had some SUPER way to collect the dump AND "conveyor" it into the static goal... But I haven't seen ANY robots this year that attempted THAT insanity. You need weight allowance for your bar method so why waste it on a conveyor method that could dump it to the floor. It's much better to INSURE the score with manual control than take ANY chance of that happening.

Scoring during autonomous is TOUGH to do. You'd have to hitch, uncap, drag it under, THEN either run over to the tee, or your PARTNER has to trigger the tee. This must be sequenced properly, and all in under 15 seconds. That takes a partner that can control WHEN they trigger. Did ANYONE manage to do that? If so, you probably have THAT record.
(That also brings up the undefined problem of either communicating between two random robots, or setting timers properly between two EXCELLENT performing autonomous modes...) Now we DID manage to get under, spread, and collect balls during autonomous, but we didn't score them... I'd have to go back and see if anyone remembers how many we collected.

I'm also curious though if ANY team managed to get a ball hopper under the OPPONENT'S chute during autonomous and collect THEIR ball drop, so I'll also propose these high score records:

- The most balls collected from OPPONENT'S drop during autonomous mode.

- The most collected from one drop (at any time).

- The most TOTAL balls DROP collected in one rolling goal (includes autonomous drop, AND opponent's at sec 45, or vice versa).

Did anyone get ALL 18 balls into their robot bin from the drop? Our robot (Team 1015) caught 13 balls twice at 45 sec so we'll toss that out there as the "score to beat". I *think* we also got one or two during autonomous (we weren't QUITE in position when it was triggered) but I'll have to verify if we got any at all.

Any takers on ANY of the other "high score" records I'm proposing, even if it's only ONE ball?

- Keith

[scottconnery]

How about the record for knocking the 10 point ball off successfully the highest percent of the time?

[Peter Matteson]

Unless of course someone had some SUPER way to collect the dump AND "conveyor" it into the static goal.

This is clearly not within the rules. Only a human player or gravity can score a small ball. No robot may assist small balls into the goal without penalty.


Did anyone get ALL 18 balls into their robot bin from the drop? Our robot (Team 1015) caught 13 balls twice at 45 sec so we'll toss that out there as the "score to beat".

I believe we tied that in Philly I have to go to the tape to verify.


-Pete

[kmcclary]

[Conveyoring to the static goal during autonomous] is clearly not within the rules. Only a human player or gravity can score a small ball. No robot may assist small balls into the goal without penalty.
Augh, You're right! (Slaps own head) I totally forgot about that...

I guess THAT record may then boil down to the "luck and good goal positioning" between all of the alliances that DID manage to uncap and stick a rolling goal under the dump and THEN trigger it.

So, who out there is in contention for "highest score made during autonomous mode"?

I believe we tied [13 balls caught from the drop] in Philly. I have to go to the tape to verify. Cool! Anyone manage catch MORE than 13 balls from the drop?

FYI, we had everything NICELY "dialed in" during practice, and our two 13 catches came during our first two rounds on Friday. Perfect alignment every time. The ones not caught were due to "throat congestion bounce out", so we didn't think we could do much better than this with our current robot's geometry.

As an aside, a PAINFUL lesson: After our first two rounds, it stopped working! Turns out that without first discussing it with anyone else (or asking permission from the student lead programmer), an overzealous first year student "ASST Programmer" (NOT our lead student) decided to "tweak" that BEAUTIFULLY running "catcher" program without telling anyone, and WITHOUT FIRST BACKING UP the WORKING parameter set... <sigh>
We also found out later that the replacement code hadn't even been TESTED on the practice field. He didn't THINK about WHY we weren't catching more, he just thought "those numbers looked better to him"... <head in hands>

It took us a couple of rounds to REALIZE just WHY it stopped working, because who would DELIBERATELY tweak a working program??? Once he fessed up, THEN we discovered we didn't have a RECORD of the OLD parameters. We ended up spending the rest of that day trying to "rediscover the magic numbers" on the practice field... We think we have it NOW, but it messed up several of our middle rounds. Once working, we then never had another chance to try it on the field to duplicate that initial performance. NONE of our later partners could trigger the tee, and our OTHER autonomous programs were more valuable to the alliance.

Lessons learned:
1) INSIST your programming staff ALWAYS saves a FULL set of the programming in a new, separate directory BEFORE EVERY ROUND (disk is cheap). That way, you CAN "go back to Round N's behavior" later if it turns out to be better than your later tweaks...
2) ONLY the Lead Student Programmer is allowed to download, and is charged with insuring EVERYTHING is TESTED and approved, BEFORE it may go in.
3) NO ONE should EVER let untested code be loaded into the robot just before a round, for ANY reason. A known behavior (even NOTHING) is MUCH better and SAFER than an unpredictable one.

Uh... to put it mildly, that programmer sure got an earful from the rest of the team... <grin> ("And the floggings shall continue until morale improves"... ;) )

Anyway... Back to the high scores.

Our current record is "13 caught at 45 seconds". Though we WERE positioned under it during autonomous, neither of our partners could trigger it for us on either of those two rounds, so we simply waited without moving. But it COULD have been for an autonomous catch... (The one time they DID trigger it for us was during round THREE, the round where to our shock the robot *first* wandered out of position... <sigh>)

So, who here can beat 13 balls caught in their hopper from the dump?

- Keith

[AmyPrib]

Did anyone get ALL 18 balls into their robot bin from the drop? Our robot (Team 1015) caught 13 balls twice at 45 sec so we'll toss that out there as the "score to beat". I *think* we also got one or two during autonomous (we weren't QUITE in position when it was triggered) but I'll have to verify if we got any at all.

- Keith

I believe at Midwest that Team 93, with their giant green ball basket, was able to catch all 18 balls at least once. And if it wasn't all 18, it was minimum 17!

[Yan Wang]

I believe Team 1241, Theory6, can. They were rookie all stars at GLR and the Canadian Super Regional... I saw their 140 (or was it 130) and 150 point matches in Canada... if they are under the drop, they catch nearly all of them.

[kmcclary]

I believe Team 1241, Theory6, can. They were rookie all stars at GLR and the Canadian Super Regional... I saw their 140 (or was it 130) and 150 point matches in Canada... if they are under the drop, they catch nearly all of them.
I was at GLR, and saw them run. Their "throat net funnel" design looked cool, and was VERY effective. But they too had problems with bounce-out from the fast dump.

BTW, in operation 1241's machine reminded me a LOT of the egg from the movie "Alien", opening up. Creepy <shudder>, yet utterly fascinating to watch at the same time (our net box simply expanded at the lower edges, with netting wedges to fill the gaps). It's only problem was a vulnerability to the "apple in a pig's mouth / big ball stuff" move if they set up for the drop too soon. They were eating balls like mad all day Friday. But in the very first round on Saturday, another team dropped a big ball into their throat at second 42, and all the small balls bounced off. That caused the entire audience to jump to their feet in surprise, and really set a high excitement mood for the rest of the day. As one of only a few ball bin machines there, they were also SERIOUSLY harassed as a major threat by teams trying to push them, or seize them with their big ball arms and drag them away.

Cool machine, 1241! Can anyone from your team tell us how many max you DID manage to catch?

How about Team 93?

- Keith

[theory6]

If our robot positioned properly under the ball chute we average 14 - 18 everytime...given no pushing/shoving by other robots. At GLR we managed to catch 17 at one time and score all those 17 balls thanks to our human player :) At Canadian Regional not as much, probably 12 - 16 due to implications in our robot functions. Our highest score at Canadian Regional was 150 thanks to our alliance as well (srry can't rmbr who it was) and at Great Lakes I believe it was around 130.

[activemx]

New high Score at the newton field, Alliance 45, 716 and 1272 of 230 points as they move in the the division finals

[Jeff Rodriguez]

New high Score at the newton field, Alliance 45, 716 and 1272 of 230 points as they move in the the division finals

yeah that was alot of points, the doubbler almost didn't fit on the goal.

[Bob Steele]

yeah that was alot of points, the doubbler almost didn't fit on the goal.

that's the Archimedes field ... not Newton

Great matches!!!!

[Heretic121]

i know it wasnt an offical match =P but 121 w/ 71 in the practice matches scored 250 & 240 w/ no assist from the volenteers (giving us small balls that is)... to bad we couldnt have alligned w/ them in a qualificatoin match or for finals =/

[R2K2D2]

In the Semifinals we scored 210 Points with our alliance team in Curie.

[Drawman]

Here is a link, to all who have not seen it, to the highest scoring match. Enjoy!

http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2004/movies/arc/arc_sf2m3.wmv

:p

[Reidonnink]

My alliance top score was 180 at Perdue regionals

[Lil' Lavery]

I think the thread you were looking for is over here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=135265

:rolleyes: