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ah27
04-18-2004, 04:53 PM
So who ended up winning? I believe that i ended up with 21 wins and 2 ties.

21 X 2 =42
+ 2 X 1= 2
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44 total points. (having team 71 probably helped me out quite a bit)

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 04:55 PM
can we clarify the point values? I can crunch it pretty quickly once I have that.

ah27
04-18-2004, 06:41 PM
can we clarify the point values? I can crunch it pretty quickly once I have that.

I am pretty sure we are doing 2 points for a win, 1 for a tie, 0 for a loss.

explanation on my scoring:
830 went 1-5-1
447 went 5-2-0
71 went 5-1-1 (+10 finals wins)

In this i am assuming team 71, the alliance captain, played every match. If i am wrong, please tell me. also, a question, Does a whole alliance (3 members) get 2 wins, or just the team that played both matches. it hink it should be the team who played both matches, because they were the only team on the field twice.

ahecht
04-18-2004, 07:27 PM
190: 7
+
1403: 10
+
481: 4
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21
I guess I lost.

Eric Bareiss
04-18-2004, 07:41 PM
Are we counting playoffs matches. I didn't think we were.

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 07:54 PM
I was under the assumption that we were counting winning scores somehow..

Koko Ed
04-18-2004, 08:08 PM
Winning percentage and average points per round is how we're scoring this.
Quality not quanity.

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 08:22 PM
Ed, I'm in the midst of crunching the numbers (I'm bored, so sue me :))

So what's the scoring system?

Koko Ed
04-18-2004, 08:25 PM
Ed, I'm in the midst of crunching the numbers (I'm bored, so sue me :))

So what's the scoring system?
Go with wins and losses first and then take the cumalitive score for EACH AND EVERY MATCH that team played and do the cumlative average score for all of its matches. And do that for all 294 teams!
Are you still sure you want to do this, Jess?

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 09:07 PM
Yep. Im mid-way through.

Now, cumulative score...are you saying whatever score that they got for the round?

Koko Ed
04-18-2004, 09:10 PM
Yep. Im mid-way through.

Now, cumulative score...are you saying whatever score that they got for the round?
Yup.
Then divide it by the amount of matches and take the total.

ah27
04-18-2004, 09:32 PM
what about the teams that play defense, instead of offense, and still when? You are kind of screwing over the people who picked those teams. Maybe we should rank teams like first does. do win points first, then an average qp for ties.

Koko Ed
04-18-2004, 09:36 PM
what about the teams that play defense, instead of offense, and still when? You are kind of screwing over the people who picked those teams. Maybe we should rank teams like first does. do win points first, then an average qp for ties.
But I'm not screwing anyone over because wins still count the most. Point average is just a tie breaker. To give points on amount of wins are hardly fair. There were good robots left on the sidelines at Newton (25, 303) and often when teams pick it is because they know teams better than others and sometimes it is simply because they like or dislike a team. THAT is not fair.

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 09:37 PM
So what are you saying, rank 'em, and then sum up the ranking numbers? Lowest ranking score wins?

Koko Ed
04-18-2004, 09:47 PM
So what are you saying, rank 'em, and then sum up the ranking numbers? Lowest ranking score wins?
Best winning percentage wins. If there is a tie the best winning percentage with the highest per match scoring average wins. If there is still a ite then we have to get into tie breakers like best record versus common oppennets and such.

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 09:56 PM
Yes, but I'm trying to come up with how to decide the best picked alliance.

So, Im ranking them by winning percentage, and then by highest average score per match. Teams with the exact winning percentage and average score are being given the same rank.

These ranks are then appointed to their respective persons, and added together. Lowest score determines the winning picker.

Sound good?

Koko Ed
04-18-2004, 10:04 PM
Yes, but I'm trying to come up with how to decide the best picked alliance.

So, Im ranking them by winning percentage, and then by highest average score per match. Teams with the exact winning percentage and average score are being given the same rank.

These ranks are then appointed to their respective persons, and added together. Lowest score determines the winning picker.

Sound good?
I'll go with that.

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 10:41 PM
Team 995 and 21, where are you?

I have no data on either...and yet they are in alliances.

Anyone know what happened?

Arefin Bari
04-18-2004, 10:42 PM
hey koko... it was very nice to meet you... you are awesome...

wondering if a list will be posted with everybodys percentage for the Fantasy FIRST...?

Arefin Bari
04-18-2004, 10:43 PM
Team 995 and 21, where are you?

I have no data on either...and yet they are in alliances.

Anyone know what happened?

i talked to mike walker... and he told me that they had their own pits and everything... but they were not suppose to compete... so their robot wasnt there... COMBAT didnt compete at nationals...

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 11:01 PM
So...what to do? They have to have a rank. I can flip a coin and one can get 293rd and the other 294th, or both can have rank 293.

abeD
04-18-2004, 11:03 PM
Maybe whoever did better at regionals?

Solace
04-18-2004, 11:05 PM
since i picked 21, and i realize how very little effect 293rd vs 294th place will make, i hereby volunteer to give 21 last place. hope that makes your life easier

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 11:11 PM
Solace, you rule so much :)

I'll put it in as that, and then if Ed wants it differently I can change it.

Jessica Boucher
04-18-2004, 11:23 PM
348 is also a no-show in my data.

It may just be easier to give you all 293'rd place at this point.

Koko Ed
04-18-2004, 11:27 PM
348 is also a no-show in my data.

It may just be easier to give you all 293'rd place at this point.
Tie the no-shows for last. It's only fair.

Jeff Rodriguez
04-19-2004, 05:19 PM
Wait, I thought the finals counted? Am I wrong?