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white_ChocOlat8
26-04-2004, 21:57
Hypothetically speaking lets just say first added two new divisions as a way for more teams to come to nationals, what do you think they should be named?
not watt, if you want to know the story, ask Ron Partridge.
Kamen and Flowers :)
Or how about Kepler and Faraday
Maybe Write and Edison
Or maybe for next year, putting Einstein into the mix too.
Dan Richardson
26-04-2004, 22:58
Liebnitz and Pathagoras ( sp ? on both )
I would assume those would be pretty good ones.
henryBsick
26-04-2004, 23:07
Liebnitz and Pathagoras ( sp ? on both )
I would assume those would be pretty good ones.
All about Pythagorus!!!
Ohm
Watt-wait, nm, Mike.
Faraday
Volta
Armstrong- (osscilator guy, added a radio coil)
Galvany (sp..?)
Franklin- Oh yeah, the big 100.
And the all important.....
Baker
or.......
Lavery
Lots of cool names out there. :D .
Sorry for the flood, I got carried away. :D :D
Staying on the Calculus Euler
And from Physics Tesla, hmm i also like Darwin
Melissa Nute
26-04-2004, 23:08
Faraday!
Faraday!
We need a Faraday Field, i repeate, we need a Faraday Field...
We need a Faraday Field, i repeate, we need a Faraday Field...
or Coloumb field...
Why don't we just get into elementary particles and go with Quark Field :D
Elgin Clock
26-04-2004, 23:32
Socrates.. He was cool in that Bill and Ted's excellent adventure movie..:p
But, as you may already know.. We already have the Elgin Clock Division (http://stats.chiefdelphi.com/cgi-bin/awstats.pl?month=03&year=2004&config=chiefdelphi.com&output=keyphrases) (honest, it's in there!!)
It's just that....somebody forgot to tell me.
MikeDubreuil
26-04-2004, 23:40
As a computer engineering student I'd like to see a Volta division.
nerdcool64
26-04-2004, 23:41
Pascal, Gutenburg, I would be really in favor of Wright or maybe even VanBraun.
Andy Baker
26-04-2004, 23:56
A few more...
Copernicus field
Da Vinci field
Strawberry field (they can serve lunch there, while listening to Beatles tunes)
Andy B.
A few more...
Da Vinci field
You read my mind on that one Andy. Da Vinci was the man. He had his hands in everything. He was an engineer, mathematician, philosopher, anatomist, geologist, painter, sculptor and architect (Plus a bunch of other things as well). The term "renaissance man" was coined because of him (and a few of his contemporaries).
I mean, he painted the Mona Lisa, and developed theories on hydraulics and gearing. He painted the Last Supper, and designed the first helicopter. His genius was only limited by the time he lived in. Most of his inventions and ideas would only be fully appreciated long after his death.
For more information on some of his inventions go check out: http://www.lib.stevens-tech.edu/collections/davinci/inventions/index.html
For information on his art, go take an art history course. It's the best way to gain a true appreciation of his impact on his time.
Whenever I think of Da Vinci I'm amazed by the range of his talents. There has never been a more intellectually well rounded person in history. I have a huge respect for anyone with artistic talents as is, but when you combine that greatness with technical savy. Wow.
Da Vinci was simply awesome. One of my old school idols.
/End Karthik's history rant...
Amanda Morrison
27-04-2004, 01:08
My vote is for (Charlotte) Bronte Field and (Franz) Kafka Field ;)
Mike Schroeder
27-04-2004, 01:13
A few more...
Strawberry field (they can serve lunch there, while listening to Beatles tunes)
Andy B.
Be carful baker, the youngins may not understand that one.....
seeing as i am a giant star wars geek, how about the Skywalker Field
or (and i am suprised no one said this yet)
The John V-Nuen field
or after he reads this and gets mad,
The Big Mike Memorial Field?
-Big Mike (hiding under my bed)
Ali Ahmed
27-04-2004, 01:21
The Ford Division
The Bell Division
Kris Verdeyen
27-04-2004, 01:42
My vote is for (Charlotte) Bronte Field and (Franz) Kafka Field ;)
I can see it now....
STU: Well, Harry, here we are at the first FIRWP Championship event, and I gotta tell you, I'm really excited about some of the competition we've seen here today.
HARRY: You hit the nail on the head there, Stu. We have seen some great moves, and a lot of great competitors have gone home early.
STU: I just know you're talking about The Unintelligible Cartoons, a powerhouse team sponsored by The New Yorker Magazine. A team that you told me was going to take it all at this competition, a team that was brought down by a split infinitive over on Vonnegut field earlier today in a hard fought battle with the rookie Random House team, also based out of New York.
HARRY: I really didn't see that coming.
STU: You said it, Harry. But we have a lot more competition to get to this afternoon, to find the grand champion of the four remaining alliances.
HARRY: The champion alliances from the four divisions - Bronte, Vonnegut, Kafka, and Grafton - will battle it out here on Gutenberg field to determine the overall champion of the FIRWP (For inspiration and recognition of writing and philosphy) championship event.
... and so forth :)
In Atlanta, I was having a similar conversation, discussing what would happen if FIRST went from 4 to 8 divisions. Assuming they turned Einstein into a divison, the three new fields we wanted to see were:
DaVinci
Edison
Copernicus
Honorable mentions were (4) Franklin, (5) Watt, (6) Kepler, and (7) Turing.
OneAngryDaisy
27-04-2004, 07:09
Hmm.. if we have a DaVinci field we must also have Michelangleo, Raphael, and Leonardo fields...
Personally I really don't think Edison or Newton really should be division field names. Edison was not that Graciously Professional and I have to do some more reseach but I think Newton may have been the same way. They were both fairly cut-throat and competed with a lot of people. Anway I noticed a theme with the fields.
Einstein-died in failure (failed in creating a unified theory)
Curie- died of radiation (not really failure but dying because of work)
Archemedies-killed by Roman soilder while doing math problem
Newton-really doesn't fit
Galilelo-died while in permament house arest because of his ideas
I want Tesla (created the whole basis for everyone's power grid yet not really known) and Da Vinci would be a good fit.
Allison K
27-04-2004, 09:45
Hmm.. if we have a DaVinci field we must also have Michelangleo, Raphael, and Leonardo fields...
Didn't you ever watch Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...It's Michelangelo, Raphael, Leonardo and Donatello not, DaVinci ;)
Allison
Heisenberg Field - Though somehow we can't define where that one is.
Avogadro Field - He's already got a number so why not a field
Planck Field - Nanorobots, maybe in a couple years
Matt Leese
27-04-2004, 10:51
I'm surprised no one brought up the idea of a Goddard Field. Given sponsorship by NASA, they'd probably be all for the inventor of the liquid rocket.
Matt
Sean Schuff
27-04-2004, 11:12
Wow! Lots of good ideas.
I'm partial to -
1 - Tesla - possibly the single greatest unsung hero (UFH?) in the history of man. Look him up if your not an EE. If you are and EE (or a geek like me!), you already know who he is!
2 - DaVinci - what a man WAY, WAY ahead of his time!
Actually, I don't care what they name the fields! I like the idea of adding two more divisions and allowing more teams to attend the national championships! Space doesn't seem to be an issue in Atlanta!
Have a day!
Da Vinci definantly, the man did everything.
As for a second choice why not someone more simple, not a giant science guy but someone that was just skilled and still changed our world?
Wright?
Tesla?
That guy who invented the printing press?
No to Copernicus, he was a lucky fraud. All he did was start a bunch of controversy.
I'd still have to insist on Faraday. Heck, we wouldn't have robots with electric motors if it weren't for him!
Pasted from this informative biography: (http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Faraday.html)
The year 1821 marked another important time in Faraday's researches. He had worked almost entirely on chemistry topics yet one of his interests from his days as a bookbinder had been electricity. In 1820 several scientists in Paris including Arago and Ampère made significant advances in establishing a relation between electricity and magnetism. Davy became interested and this gave Faraday the opportunity to work on the topic. He published On some new electro-magnetical motions, and on the theory of magnetism in the Quarterly Journal of Science in October 1821. Pearce Williams writes [1]:-
It records the first conversion of electrical into mechanical energy. It also contained the first notion of the line of force.
Tesla actually did all that, but he was a weird duck. By did I mean he came up with concepts and made things, he didn't just theorize. (Keep in mind alot of people made papers, it's the ones who put them to use that get alot of recognition. exception: Einstein-his theories create entire fields of study, and are about to again. Gravity Probe B)
Ben Lauer
27-04-2004, 12:27
Divinci,
Libnitz
Faraday
no, i cannot spele
Andy Baker
27-04-2004, 13:19
What about Sally?
I DOUBT anyone would be FIREd up about having SMOKEy (and the) BANDITs running around a field of STEEL MAGNOLIAS (aka, good-looking robots). We need to stick to NORMAl, RAEl scientists, even though Sally holds special PLACES IN THE HEART of many FIRSTers.
This would be as silly as a FLYING NUN.
I would NOT go to this field WITHOUT MY DAUGHTER and there would be no ABSENSE OF MALICE if you would SAY IT ISN'T SO.
Andy B.
George1902
27-04-2004, 13:29
Wow... I don't know what's scarier: Andy's reply or the fact the it took Andy's reply for me to get M's joke.
Exams have taken their toll I guess.
My vote is for Da Vinci, btw.
RiceRobotica
27-04-2004, 13:42
Faraday, Rutherford, Tesla.... Any of those would be good. :)
I'd say Edison and Socrates
My definite favs would be Franklin, and Edison.
Is this just hypothetical or are they really thinking to have these two new fields??? I mean because I don't think they could get 2 more fields in there... maybe one if they took away the legos... hmmm...
how bout in keeping with the technology theme the Gates Field or The Torvalds Field or even the Berners-Lee Field
Wozniak and Jobs sound pretty good
No to Copernicus, he was a lucky fraud. All he did was start a bunch of controversy.
I'd say he's a good cantidate... As the inventor of controversy.
What about the Gravity field and the Electric field? Then at the finals, you could talk about the cases where the electric field dominates (or the other way around) ...
Sorry, recovering from a quantum physics test :yikes:
How 'bout Gauss? I mean, really, Gauss was everywhere. Number theory, imaginary numbers, linear algebra ... and that's not even to mention the half of it, and then there's his physics contributions (a little thing called Gauss's law for starters). Of course, as a programmer, I'd also have to appreciate Turing (previous suggestion).
Tristan Lall
27-04-2004, 22:28
How 'bout Gauss? I mean, really, Gauss was everywhere. Number theory, imaginary numbers, linear algebra ... and that's not even to mention the half of it, and then there's his physics contributions (a little thing called Gauss's law for starters).Wasn't there a Gauss field in 2001, when they had 4 indoor fields plus the big Einstein bandshell, at Epcot?
No... there were only four fields. Einstein was used as a field. The divisions were annotated by a color (Red, White, Blue, and Gold)
How 'bout Gauss? I mean, really, Gauss was everywhere. Number theory, imaginary numbers, linear algebra ... and that's not even to mention the half of it, and then there's his physics contributions (a little thing called Gauss's law for starters). Of course, as a programmer, I'd also have to appreciate Turing (previous suggestion).
Nah we already got two math geniuses. If it came down to it, (I already want davinci) I guess I like the wright's. Those guys got it done. (Plus who better would represent the first american named field. Come-on the guys did what we do in competion every year. They just changed the world.)
Devin L.
27-04-2004, 22:46
Is this just hypothetical or are they really thinking to have these two new fields??? I mean because I don't think they could get 2 more fields in there... maybe one if they took away the legos... hmmm...
ya, get rid of legos and have them enjoy the 15 min walk to the pits :D lol
Katie Reynolds
28-04-2004, 00:12
1 - Tesla ...
2 - DaVinci ...
I've gotta agree with Schuff - C'mon, Tesla is cool enough to have an <shamless plug> engineering charter school (http://www.aasd.k12.wi.us/tesla/) named after him </shamless plug> ;) and DaVinci was just awesome.
:yikes:
I'm all for the wrights idea.
suneel112
28-04-2004, 00:35
Since Newton represents the mechanics and gravitational side of physics, Archimedes represents fluid dynamics (maybe :confused: ), Galileo represents astronomy, and Curie represents Nuclear Physics (to some degree), there needs to be a person from Electronics and Magnetism recognized. The robot building is half mechanics and half E&M so E&M should also be recognized.
Maybe Gauss, Ampere, or Faraday
of course, its time that a field gets named after either an American or an Asian.
Joseph Henry
Edwin Hubble
J. Robert Oppenheimer
Benjamin Franklin
<insert other Prominent American Scientists here>
Industrial/Engineering:
Ford
Edison
Dean Kamen
Chandra
<instert other Asians here>
Alex Pelan
05-05-2004, 23:01
Copernicus and Da Vinci get my vote...
Joshua May
05-05-2004, 23:13
Volta, Da Vinci, Edison,
and of course... BAKER and GRADY, the great andys!!!
Nick Mac
06-05-2004, 17:58
I say DaVinci and Franklin
Jay TenBrink
06-05-2004, 19:44
I say DaVinci and Franklin
After hearing that we will soon be seeing advertising on the bases during professional baseball games, I will be happy as long as the fields are named after our pioneers in the sciences.
If we do have to sell out, how about "IBM Field" and "Pepsi Field" ?
Can I hear a Disney a Disney here??? How about Timken? Can I hear a Timken? What about Goodyear?? I'll give a cookie to whoever can guess what Disney invented. I expect all non-rookie people to know what Timken invented. If not then you either have not read the parts list or do not work on the robot.:)
Ken Leung
07-05-2004, 05:37
I cannot believe no one suggested this name:
The V-Neun division.
:D :p
Actually.
Remember how Dean said more scientist and engineers should be heroes or role models for the students? I think when you think of new names for the division, you should definitely keep that in mind. Imagine if you have to come up with a short list of 10 names to be top heroes from the science/engineering field, who would they be.
Personally, I have a lot of respect for Edison. I read about how he had major difficulties in school when he was young, and about how he was tiredlessly trying to invent new things even when he was small. I thought to myself, "He is a legendary inventor, but he is also a human being who never stop trying. Now that's someone to look up to."
Another scientist/engineer I look up to is R. Buckminster Fuller, who forever changed my view of the world ever since I saw a play about him and his experience. But I doubt he is as famous as Newton, Einstein, or Edison.
On the side note, I thought how cool it was when Blair went "Gal-il", and the crowd went "le-o" at the beginning of the finals in Atlanta. When you come up with names for new divisions, they better sound interesting when you say the name out loud.
I think I remember there used to be a Watt field back in the days, but it went away after the divisions were established since 2001. Boy, what a great decision that was.
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